SNES CLASSIC MINI announced

[lendelin]

I'm sorry if this was posted before, I couldn't find it though:

Nintendo announced the SNES Classic mini with 21 games. Release date: September 29th, Price: $80.

Something special is the inclusion of Star Fox 2 which was never released on the SNES or Super Famicom. All the usual suspects are there, additionally Kirby Super Star, Kirby's Dream Course and Earthbound(!).

Let's hope that this little machine will get more production numbers than the NES Classic Mini resulting in way more happy gamers and less happy ebay scalpers.

Link:

http://www.nintendo.com/super-nes-classic

[AdamAnt316]

To me, it doesn't mean crap one if it doesn't actually make it into the stores in sufficient numbers so that actual human persons have a chance of actually finding one on the shelves in order to buy for the retail price which Nintendo set. I'm still pissed off at Nintendo for the complete and total fustercluck they made out of the entire NES Classic Mini fiasco. I waited months for it to show up in stores fully willing to give Nintendo my $60, only for them to unceremoniously pull it from the market. The only people who benefitted from their stupidity were the scalpers. I'm not sure if I'll ever forgive them for the gigantic middle finger they gave their loyal buying public. :grrr: :bad-words: :angry:
-Adam
Oops, I seem to have melted the contents of the soapbox I was standing on...

[kainemaxwell]

Im sure when the chosen few buy it, itll get hacked into a big snes emulator system like the nes classic was.

[lendelin]

I think the compilation of the games is great, I was just really surprised to find Star Fox 2 on it.

Nintendo has to get the production numbers right this time, otherwise ebay scalpers will hoard the SNES mini and ruin it for a lot of gamers.

I still don't have a NES classic mini because I adamantly refuse to pay more than the retail price for it. (If I have the feeling someone takes advantage of me, I become stubborn like a mule. If someone would offer the NES mini right now for $70, I would not buy it. I'm terrible this way.) At times there were 2000 to 3000 NES classic minis on ebay, and when the prices finally went steadily down Nintendo announced the discontinuation of the little machine. Truly bad.

[celerystalker]

I feel like it's an insanely good lineup, but as everyone has said, Nintendo will probably fuck it up again.

[eskobar]

To me, it doesn't mean crap one if it doesn't actually make it into the stores in sufficient numbers so that actual human persons have a chance of actually finding one on the shelves in order to buy for the retail price which Nintendo set. I'm still pissed off at Nintendo for the complete and total fustercluck they made out of the entire NES Classic Mini fiasco. I waited months for it to show up in stores fully willing to give Nintendo my $60, only for them to unceremoniously pull it from the market. The only people who benefitted from their stupidity were the scalpers. I'm not sure if I'll ever forgive them for the gigantic middle finger they gave their loyal buying public. :grrr: :bad-words: :angry:
-Adam
Oops, I seem to have melted the contents of the soapbox I was standing on...

Nintendo has always been conservative on estimating the demand of its products and they have always retained or limited stock from its customers, I happened since the NES, it was a huge factor of its high demand for the Wii and I think that the Switch is not widely available in the USA.

Regarding units produced of the Nes Classic Mini, I have read that the have sold more than 2 million units ... and if the Mini is sold-out, producing more than 2 million units is quite a high number for a product that has a very limited market, hope they produce more, but even if you produce 10 million snes classics, they could easily be bought by resellers :)

[AdamAnt316]

Nintendo has always been conservative on estimating the demand of its products and they have always retained or limited stock from its customers, I happened since the NES, it was a huge factor of its high demand for the Wii and I think that the Switch is not widely available in the USA.

Regarding units produced of the Nes Classic Mini, I have read that the have sold more than 2 million units ... and if the Mini is sold-out, producing more than 2 million units is quite a high number for a product that has a very limited market, hope they produce more, but even if you produce 10 million snes classics, they could easily be bought by resellers :)

If the units had shown up at stores in sufficient numbers to satisfy consumer demand, there would have been no reason for scalpers to buy them up for resale. Nintendo set the retail price at $60, and $60 is what I intended to spend on one. I figured that there would be a holiday rush, but after a month or so had passed, demand would die down, and perhaps I could manage to pick one up at said retail price. Once February rolled around, I started checking local GameStops numerous times, and they never had any. An employee at one of them suspected that they had been discontinued about a month before they actually had because he hadn't seen any delivered there in some time.
-Adam

[megasdkirby]

Scalpers are already having orgasms and boners just thinking about the Super NES mini.

Why? Because Nintendo do are ducking idiots and never learn their lesson. They will, once again, manipulate item quantity making it hard to get again.

[eskobar]

If the units had shown up at stores in sufficient numbers to satisfy consumer demand, there would have been no reason for scalpers to buy them up for resale. Nintendo set the retail price at $60, and $60 is what I intended to spend on one. I figured that there would be a holiday rush, but after a month or so had passed, demand would die down, and perhaps I could manage to pick one up at said retail price. Once February rolled around, I started checking local GameStops numerous times, and they never had any. An employee at one of them suspected that they had been discontinued about a month before they actually had because he hadn't seen any delivered there in some time.
-Adam

Yes, but for that to happen, Nintendo had to produce 4 million or more units to have stock in stores and quite possibly have a few hundred thousand unit heavily discounted sitting at retail stores ... that would be great for us, the customers, but not as good for Ninty.

Nintendo doesn't gamble, they did great business with the Classic Mini. Resellers have deep pockets and if they decide that one product will be an easy sale, they could easily buy the entire production of the SNES Classic.

Nintendo could limit the sales to one console for person, but that would be stupid because they want to sell the stock ASAP, this is a product line that is hard to set up as a constant restock because the market is very limited and the novelty wears out. Serious classic games don't care that much for bad emulated classics on FPGAs as they usually have the original hardware and games... and if you have the original hardware you could purchase a rom cart and download any game you want and play it, illegally, on original hardware.

Don't get me wrong, the deal is really sweet, you have very cheap legal licenses of great games and I would love to see this at retail price, but this scenario is highly unlikely because you need to overproduce.

I prefer to invest the 80 usd on a video game or original vg soundtrack

[AdamAnt316]

Yes, but for that to happen, Nintendo had to produce 4 million or more units to have stock in stores and quite possibly have a few hundred thousand unit heavily discounted sitting at retail stores ... that would be great for us, the customers, but not as good for Ninty.

Nintendo doesn't gamble, they did great business with the Classic Mini. Resellers have deep pockets and if they decide that one product will be an easy sale, they could easily buy the entire production of the SNES Classic.

Nintendo could limit the sales to one console for person, but that would be stupid because they want to sell the stock ASAP, this is a product line that is hard to set up as a constant restock because the market is very limited and the novelty wears out. Serious classic games don't care that much for bad emulated classics on FPGAs as they usually have the original hardware and games... and if you have the original hardware you could purchase a rom cart and download any game you want and play it, illegally, on original hardware.

Don't get me wrong, the deal is really sweet, you have very cheap legal licenses of great games and I would love to see this at retail price, but this scenario is highly unlikely because you need to overproduce.

I prefer to invest the 80 usd on a video game or original vg soundtrack

It is obvious that there was more than enough demand out there for them to sell more than the 2 or so million consoles they produced. Exactly how much more I know not, but Nintendo obviously had the capabilities to produce and supply more units than they did. Unsold merchandise certainly is a risk, but I do not believe that it would have been a huge issue for a large company such as Nintendo. Each scalper which bought them paid retail price for them, and that is all which Nintendo received for each one. If Nintendo had made enough units to fulfill demand, they would have made more money than they did. Nintendo had every right to set the retail price higher than $60, but they did not.

Stores did attempt to limit sales, but the fact is that there was not enough supply to truly satisfy the actual demand at the retail level, and whatever did arrive in stores sold out in short order to people who lined up at opening time. Truly, the only winner in this entire scenario was the scalpers, and I was among the many losers, as was Nintendo themselves (self-inflicted). I can only hope that this entire debacle has been enough to sour those who were deprived of the opportunity to purchase a NES Classic Mini at the retail price, which means that the scalpers who attempt to replicate their earlier success with the SNES Classic Mini are unable to peddle their overpriced wares as they would see fit, leaving them to sell at a loss (or, at least, break even).

As for what to spend the money on, that is your decision. I was intrigued at the retro looks of the NES Classic Mini, as well as what Nintendo had on offer for the price they set. The last thing I need is another way to play Nintendo games, as I have several examples of the original hardware as well as numerous games, but I thought it would look nice next to the several Flashback consoles I own (same story). Nintendo's less-than-adequate supply and premature discontinuation deprived me of that opportunity, which I find extremely disappointing.
-Adam

[Nz17]

Games:
Star Fox 2, Super Mario World, Super Mario Kart, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, F-Zero, Super Metroid, Super Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting, Super Punch Out, Super Castlevania IV, Donkey Kong Country, Mega Man X, Kirby Super Star, Final Fantasy III, Kirby's Dream Course, Star Fox, Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Contra III: The Alien Wars, Secret of Mana, EarthBound, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts.

Additionally, it will include a supposedly larger production run, two controllers each, and longer (5 foot) controller cables.

[Greg2600]

We'll see about that larger production run! Someone mentioned this, but the real impetus is to appease their vendors, both brick and mortar and on-line. I think the first, best rumors out of E3 were from a Gamestop DM or Exec who said they were shown this behind closed doors. The key was it gets shoppers into the stores.

Frankly, if Nintendo were REALLY smart they would consider selling the NES Classic again.

[eskobar]

Yes, I agree with everyone regarding that Nintendo missed an opportunity to sell more units ... they actually did great with the licensing of the games included with the console, my point is that if Nintendo produced 5 million units, the resellers would buy them all, we are in a world where the global economy allows almost any person with money anywhere in the would can buy products online.

In Mexico we actually had these consoles and the official Nintendo distributors retail price was USD108 ... and they sold really fast ... to be resold, hahahaha. I think that all the hype and the awareness that the SNES Classic will be very hard to get is working for Nintendo and I assure you that the console will be sold out immediately no matter how big the production run is.

I hope that I am wrong and we can see the console for sale on Amazon or Gamestop at retail price, maybe in that case I will buy one just for the sake of supporting efforts on classic games, but the reality is that I don't see this market that big. Yes, you could sell 2 or 3 million, but I can't see going much bigger...

And I sure hope that the SNES Classic will be a much better product than the NES Mini, that had an ugly color palette (you could argue that it is the official, because its by Nintendo hehehe) and overall poor emulation, the sound really was very off sync ... and too much more details.

[Greg2600]

https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/27/japans-snes-classic-gets-famicom-look-and-tweaked-game-selection/


The “Nintendo Classic Mini: Super Famicom” (its full name) gains three games that are clearly better known in Japan: Panel de Pon (a competitive Tetris-style game), Super Soccer and Legend of the Mystical Ninja.
They come at a cost, though: Castlevania IV, Punch-Out! and Kirby’s Dream Course bite the dust.

https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/img_03.jpg

[Scissors]

https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/27/japans-snes-classic-gets-famicom-look-and-tweaked-game-selection/

The “Nintendo Classic Mini: Super Famicom” (its full name) gains three games that are clearly better known in Japan: Panel de Pon (a competitive Tetris-style game), Super Soccer and Legend of the Mystical Ninja.
They come at a cost, though: Castlevania IV, Punch-Out! and Kirby’s Dream Course bite the dust.



Japan is also getting one of the Fire Emblem games and not getting Earthbound. I'm not sure how the writer of that article missed this. The version of Street Fighter 2 that Japan is getting is different from the one we are getting too.

[lendelin]

Granted, there is Star Fox 2, but I noticed that a traditional shooter is missing! Let it be Axelay, Gradius III, Space Megaforce or R-Type III, one of them should have been included to represent this timeless genre. I would have thrown out one of the Kirby games for a great shmup.

[eskobar]

Granted, there is Star Fox 2, but I noticed that a traditional shooter is missing! Let it be Axelay, Gradius III, Space Megaforce or R-Type III, one of them should have been included to represent this timeless genre. I would have thrown out one of the Kirby games for a great shmup.

I remember Axelay as an awesome game, I liked it much more than Gradius III ... but years after, I consider Gradius III a much superior game; it would be nice that the collection but I guess the lag of hdmi/lcd tv is a factor to consider when Nintendo did the selection.

[Tron 2.0]

I'm interested but it will end up being a scalpers paradise.Not unless,nintendo can produce enough for the consumer to buy which i highly doubt.Still i find it odd it won't have DKC2&3 for that matter no mega man x 2&3 either.

[Bratwurst]

I'm interested but it will end up being a scalpers paradise.Not unless,nintendo can produce enough for the consumer to buy which i highly doubt.Still i find it odd it won't have DKC2&3 for that matter no mega man x 2&3 either.

Megaman X1 is a perfect SNES game with a very accessible learning curve to its difficulty. X2 and X3 took the series in a sort of screwy direction with its music, ramped up difficulty and a few other little details- I love all three games to death but the latter two were meant for hardcore Megaman nerds and not really palatable for the casual consumer that the SNES Classic is likely intended for. Except most units will wind up in the hands of scalpers anyway so lolololo

[Tron 2.0]

Megaman X1 is a perfect SNES game with a very accessible learning curve to its difficulty. X2 and X3 took the series in a sort of screwy direction with its music, ramped up difficulty and a few other little details- I love all three games to death but the latter two were meant for hardcore Megaman nerds and not really palatable for the casual consumer that the SNES Classic is likely intended for. Except most units will wind up in the hands of scalpers anyway so lolololo
Yeah i see it will have the first mmx i just find it odd no parts 2&3,to round out the trilogy.The same can be said for donky kong county just part one and no 2&3 either.I don't know if i'll try to buy one when it comes out.I'm sure scalpers will snatch it up soon as possible for north america.Still i'm set with a SFC currently and a super everdrive.

[Az]

I assume that Nintendo will release Starfox 2 later on down the road as a standard Virtual Console release. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't all the games on the NES classic edition already available on VC, as well as the other 20 on the SNES classic?

Strange that they both upped the price and dropped the number of included games, but I guess that shouldn't come as a surprise since Nintendo has always treated their back catalog as somewhat of a premium. Stark contrast to Sega who sells theirs for pennies on the dollar, bundling together everything but the kitchen sink.

[Emperor Megas]

Games:
Star Fox 2, Super Mario World, Super Mario Kart, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, F-Zero, Super Metroid, Super Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting, Super Punch Out, Super Castlevania IV, Donkey Kong Country, Mega Man X, Kirby Super Star, Final Fantasy III, Kirby's Dream Course, Star Fox, Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Contra III: The Alien Wars, Secret of Mana, EarthBound, and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts.

Additionally, it will include a supposedly larger production run, two controllers each, and longer (5 foot) controller cables.What an amazing lineup!


The “Nintendo Classic Mini: Super Famicom” (its full name) gains three games that are clearly better known in Japan: Panel de Pon (a competitive Tetris-style game), Super Soccer and Legend of the Mystical Ninja.
They come at a cost, though: Castlevania IV, Punch-Out! and Kirby’s Dream Course bite the dust.It SUUUUUUCKS that Super Castlevania IV got cut, but Legend of the Mystical Ninja!? That's one of my TOP favorite SNES games. Probably #1, honestly.

[callofthemountains]

I'm not sure about these re-releases :/ The games are still quite fun, sure, but spending all that money and having yet another console in the house? I don't think it's worth it. Let memories be memories.

[Greg2600]

I'm not sure about these re-releases :/ The games are still quite fun, sure, but spending all that money and having yet another console in the house? I don't think it's worth it. Let memories be memories.

If you get it at retail, it's only $80 and the box is smaller than most cereal boxes.

[Tanooki]

You must have some weird cereal boxes. If the NES one is any indication it's like the size of like 3 3DS games on top of each other. Given the prices on all those games to buy online which is out of control, plus a legit final release of Starfox 2 it's so worth it.

[WulfeLuer]

Hmm, I agree that there should be a shmup somewhere on the line-up, but I find it a bit more disappointing that we have Secret of Mana (Yay), FF 3 (with the glitches still intact, lol), and the wonder that is SMRPG, but not Chrono Trigger.

I'm also wondering how close to the original we're going to get. There's some stuff that emulation and releases on later hardware have damaged a bit. Aside from say, the Final Fantasy Anthology fiasco for 3/VI, there's some small but irritating things I've found. A relatively big one is in Mega Man X, where you can get the buster upgrade in the Flame Mammoth stage. On the original, it's very doable, but on both the emulator I tried out and the PS2 compilation, it's become maddeningly frustrating (probably FPS shenanigans at work). I know that it's a fairly minor thing to get agitated about, but it does bother me a bit.

The scalpers are going to make bank regardless, and will do so even if Nintendo wises up and makes a bigger production run (4.5 M would be a nice starting point). I didn't pay attention to the NES Mini too much since there wasn't a whole lot that interested me, but I can tell you that there was a surprisingly high number of people IRL around here that got upset over the discontinuation. These weren't retro fans or even hardcore gamers, just ordinary dudes that wanted to fire up the old toaster and smash some goombas or something once in a while. Nintendo missed out on some sales, and worse, we as a community missed out on a shot at growing a bit.

[Tanooki]

Chrono is grossly overrated. Don't get me wrong, it's good, but it's also just a footnote in history that didn't go anywhere. FF is still kicking as is the Mana franchise so they make sense and the Mario one is kind of a gimme considering the heritage on that one.

It was pretty galling and stupid they didn't put Gradius III on there given Gradius made it on the NES game. Beautiful game with big stages, great use of color and audio, but at the same time I figure it probably had to do with those couple instances of graphics glitching on the big plant boss and the overized bubble boss too as that wouldn't present well and have a bunch of call in whiners (though I imagine it could have been cleaned up.) Leaving that out still Axelay would have been totally cool as a swap out.

[Greg2600]

Could be they didn't want Gradius III do to it's original slowdown, but should have been an alternative.

[WulfeLuer]

(After five minutes of confused frothing fanboy noises)

Hearing the Chrono series called a footnote of history is actually deliciously ironic when you think about it. Anyway, I mean less "Chrono Trigger deserves a lineup spot because it's superawesome" than "We have the other big Square RPGs here, why not Chrono Trigger?" It's just an odd omission. I still agree that a shmup should have been included. Maybe not Gradius III (the issues presented sound like straight porting issues, which an emulator like the Mini would probably make worse), but something like UN Squadron, what have you.

[celerystalker]

Let me preface this by saying that the SNES is handily my favorite console.

The Super Nintendo doesn't have any worthwhile shooters to include over the superior platforming and RPG games. Gradius III is fun, but is honestly one of the least interesting and creative of the bunch. The cream of the crop are basically Space Megaforce, Pop'n Twinbee, R-Type III, Aero Fighters, and Gradius III. It's one area where the system was absolutely beaten to a pulp by the Genesis and Turbografx, and it wasn't close. If I was gonna pick one, it'd be R-Type III for the US, but they aren't screwing us by not including a shooter that doesn't make the top ten on either the Genesis or Turbo.

I agree that Chrono Trigger is obscenely overrated. It's a good RPG. Really good, even. I think they made the right call on what to include here. I mean, Turtles in Time and Pocky & Rocky are some of my favorites, but the selection on this is rock solid... not that it'll be available.

[Nz17]

They should have included Zero Wing. ;)

[lendelin]

The SNES has such a great and varied game library that there will always be something missing, even if Nintendo would have (and they should have) put 30 games on the system.

I mentioned before that on this SNES compilation is a shoot-em-up missing because shmups were such an important part of every system during the 16bit-era, maybe even more important than in the 8bit-rea. One of the great shmups should have been included just to represent such an important (and timeless) genre.

I would have been satisfied with either of the great shmups, but personally I would have preferred either Axelay or Space Megaforce which are still my favorites today.

Cerelerystalker, I think that a R-Type III or Space Megaforce can compete with the best of the Genesis or Turbografix shmups, but overall the Gnesis had the better library for this genre for sure.

I'm not terribly excited about the SNES classic mini. The reason are the foreseeable shortages and the terrible ebay scalpers who become more and more of a problem for gamers and collectors today. I don't have a NES Classic mini, and if I get a SNES classic mini this will be good, if not, this will be good, too.

[WulfeLuer]

They should have included Zero Wing. ;)

Somebody set up us the troll. All your game are belong to Genesis.

[AdamAnt316]

Somebody set up us the troll. All your game are belong to Genesis.

Well, Mega Drive, anyway. To the best of my knowledge, the infamous translation port (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Wing#Ports) was only released for the European market, since Williams had the arcade distribution rights for the US (and apparently didn't bother to port it to any consoles, for some reason). Why ZW wasn't ported to the Super Famicom, I have no idea. Goofy engrish aside, it's actually a rather fun game in its own right.
-Adam
"You have no chance for release, make your time.........."

[Nz17]

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We appreciate the incredible anticipation that exists for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System: Super NES Classic Edition system, and can confirm that it will be made available for pre-order by various retailers late this month.

A significant amount of additional systems will be shipped to stores for launch day, and throughout the balance of the calendar year.

Source: https://m.facebook.com/Nintendo/photos/a.120520318032430.30157.119240841493711/1438961166188332/?type=3&_rdr#1438963326188116


Time to bust out the Scalper-B-Gon.

After a false start, Nintendo of America has confirmed preorders for the SNES Classic will begin before the end of August.

NoA made the statement on their Facebook page today, promising a "significant" number of systems for launch day and the balance of the year.

Walmart's online store listed preorders for the system on the evening of July 21, but these orders ended up being cancelled due to what the mega-retailer called a "site glitch".

Source: https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/45077/nintendo-of-america-announces-snes-classic-mini-preorders-later-this-month

[Tanooki]

Let's hope they're honest about that.

They do tend to be when they have to repetitively over the years re-learn the same lesson.

First they short supply and people get PISSED (Wii), then the door swings the other way and they over do it (WiiU and 3DS) and then (for WiiU) have to stop production to move them out or lower price (3DS) to get them to roll out big time. SO then the door swings back again into stupid (Amiibo wave1 year long drought) and make people mad. So now we have the Switch and it is a lot more prolific, but not as much as it should be due to NAND shortage (which isn't their fault for once) and then back again with the NES CE and the fury.

We're due for another uptick in Nintendo production runs on a wanted item.


...and I agree Space Megaforce would have been perfect for the SNES CE other than it being an under the radar classic for most unlike anything else on that box.

[Koa Zo]

(blinking avatar)
Is there anything more obnoxious than a blinking avatar?

[Tanooki]

A blinking signature, would you like me to add one?

[RP2A03]

Is there anything more obnoxious than a blinking avatar?

What about this as an avatar:

http://i.giphy.com/xTiTngPxs6O7PjzzkA.gif

[SparTonberry]

The SNES has such a great and varied game library that there will always be something missing, even if Nintendo would have (and they should have) put 30 games on the system.

I mentioned before that on this SNES compilation is a shoot-em-up missing because shmups were such an important part of every system during the 16bit-era, maybe even more important than in the 8bit-rea. One of the great shmups should have been included just to represent such an important (and timeless) genre.

I would have been satisfied with either of the great shmups, but personally I would have preferred either Axelay or Space Megaforce which are still my favorites today.

Cerelerystalker, I think that a R-Type III or Space Megaforce can compete with the best of the Genesis or Turbografix shmups, but overall the Gnesis had the better library for this genre for sure.

I'm not terribly excited about the SNES classic mini. The reason are the foreseeable shortages and the terrible ebay scalpers who become more and more of a problem for gamers and collectors today. I don't have a NES Classic mini, and if I get a SNES classic mini this will be good, if not, this will be good, too.

StarFox isn't a shmup? :P

Among the other suggestions, maybe Pocky & Rocky 1 would've been a good choice?
I mean, Natsume released the GBA P&R on Wii U VC, despite that it's not the game people wanted (being a port of the original 1986 arcade game that few heard of and is comparatively dull). Though even on easy SNES P&R killed me. Fun but it seemed like it really wanted to be played a co-op game.
And I mean the original is one of those that skyrocketed in price, from like a $15 game to a $100+, never mind the sequel that people say is not nearly as good despite its even more astronomical price.

[Koa Zo]

StarFox isn't a shmup? :P

rail shooter ≠ shoot-em-up

[lendelin]

Important information for gamers and collectors:

Gamestop opened the pre-orders for the SNES Classic Mini just two hours ago. Don't know if that's online or just in-store.

I completed my pre-order at my local Gamestop. It seems (I might be wrong) that it will be as crazy as the NES Classic Mini, at least there is uncertainty which of course drives the rarity hype and all the dumbness (including ebay scalpers, see the NES Classic mini and Limited Run games) no matter how many consoles Nintendo produces.

So get it and don't hesitate before some lazy ebay scalpers scoop them up.

Let's hope this one won't be an ebay scalpers paradise.

[Nz17]

Bad news: Amazon (online), Best Buy (online), GameStop (online), and GameStop stores (offline) have sold all of their pre-orders of the SNES CE and in just about two hours. My local GS store sold all of its allotted 6 within only 1 hour.

Good news: Toys 'r' Us is not selling pre-orders, so there is hope for buying one at launch on Sep. 29th. Also, GS stores will have additional SNES CE for sale in-store on launch day.

But... how long before the first listing is spotted on eBay?

[AdamAnt316]

But... how long before the first listing is spotted on eBay?

I give it about an hour after launch. Less if the seller is greedy enough to post the auction from their car on the way home..........

[Bojay1997]

Bad news: Amazon (online), Best Buy (online), GameStop (online), and GameStop stores (offline) have sold all of their pre-orders of the SNES CE and in just about two hours. My local GS store sold all of its allotted 6 within only 1 hour.

Good news: Toys 'r' Us is not selling pre-orders, so there is hope for buying one at launch on Sep. 29th. Also, GS stores will have additional SNES CE for sale in-store on launch day.

But... how long before the first listing is spotted on eBay?

You can add Target and Walmart to the list of on-line retailers that sold out yesterday as well. Walmart literally lasted a minute and Target was in and out of stock for maybe 10 minutes, although you could do a trick that sometimes allowed you to preorder one later in the day. There are plenty of them on Ebay now at crazy markup, as well as a number that have sold in the $200-$300 range. I was pretty disgusted with Gamestop in particular that sold outrageously priced bundles through Gamestop.com (well the app anyway because the site crashed) and ThinkGeek. Gamestop also required a $25 deposit in stores which is pretty offensive.

[Greg2600]

Well I think actual fans/collectors did okay on the BB and Amazon listings because they happened in the middle of the night. I got one from BB, being alerted just before going to bed. The others went live midday, and a LOT of people knew about it. The fact that Nintendo is probably ONLY making a few hundred thousand available at launch worldwide is the problem.

[Bojay1997]

Well I think actual fans/collectors did okay on the BB and Amazon listings because they happened in the middle of the night. I got one from BB, being alerted just before going to bed. The others went live midday, and a LOT of people knew about it. The fact that Nintendo is probably ONLY making a few hundred thousand available at launch worldwide is the problem.

There was a lot of scalper abuse on the Amazon listing as people on various forums were posting receipts showing orders of 30-50 units each. It sounds like Amazon has been cancelling many of them if you went over 2-3 units, so I expect those will go back up on release day perhaps for Prime members only like they did with the Switch and certain Amiibos. Best Buy imposed a limit of two from the outset, which seems reasonable to me and you're right that if you were made aware of the sale within a reasonable time of it going live, you could get one from them.

[gameofyou]

The SNES mini has a great line-up of games. It would have been nice to add some more games to bring it up to 25. As others have mentioned, maybe a shooter like Axelay. Super Star Wars would have been a good addition as well.

Ah, who am I kidding, I'll never get one anyway. I refuse to pay scalper prices.

[Tanooki]

I'm going to keep attempting on it to pay retail, I have to. It's not about the released games to me, that's covered, but the legit release of starfox 2 denied so long and much teased in Nintendo Power I feel I have to get it to really play that thing thoroughly through and through. I was able to get two of the NES systems, one as it came out, one a day or two after they canned it locally for my kid which she still plays with. I'll get it, somehow.

[InsaneDavid]

I'm going to keep attempting on it to pay retail, I have to. It's not about the released games to me, that's covered, but the legit release of starfox 2 denied so long and much teased in Nintendo Power I feel I have to get it to really play that thing thoroughly through and through. I was able to get two of the NES systems, one as it came out, one a day or two after they canned it locally for my kid which she still plays with. I'll get it, somehow.

SNES Classic Mini released.
SNES Classic Mini impossible to find at retail due to Nintendo's BS.
StarFox 2 ROM extracted from SNES Classic Mini.
SNES Classic Mini discontinued in less than a year.
No guilt for playing StarFox 2 Classic Mini ROM on an emulator or flash cartridge.

[Bratwurst]

No guilt for playing StarFox 2 Classic Mini ROM on an emulator or flash cartridge.

Uncertain of any flash cartridges that support Super FX games, but for certain there's going to be a buttload of reproduction hackjobs on eBay once the rom's extracted.

[InsaneDavid]

Uncertain of any flash cartridges that support Super FX games, but for certain there's going to be a buttload of reproduction hackjobs on eBay once the rom's extracted.

Ah, softmodded Xbox or Wii or whatever will suffice then. The prototype translation / fix runs pretty decent on an old softmodded Xbox.

Either way, the extraction of that ROM is what I'm looking forward to. If I could easily grab the system at retail I would but we know that's not how it's going to be and it'll have a short production life.

[WulfeLuer]

Well, I chewed on it for a very good while last month, and made a decision. Hunting down a SNES CE was going to take an amount of effort and resources that would be better spent on either adding to my Backlog of Glory or (a random example) getting the sourcebooks and gear to make my 40k collection current again or something. If I was going to bother at all, I need to just do it right the first time.

So I snapped up a regular SNES so I could play what the hell I wanted, instead of being restricted by what was living on the CE's firmware or whatever. Yes, the lack of Chrono Trigger on the CE was a factor, but there were other ones. Robotrek, Lufia, the Super Star Wars trilogy, Secret of Evermore, Breath of Fire 1 and 2, Illusion of Gaia, maybe even Axelay or UN Squadron. Maybe even Addams Family Values (pretty much Zelda or IoG, but you play as a Sith Lord) or Joe and Mac. If I'm going to be a lunatic, I want to at least do it on my own terms, y'know?

[Greg2600]

As I'm sure most know by now, Nintendo announced that the NES Classic Mini will RETURN to production, for a Summer 2018 release! In addition, SNES Classic Mini's will continue to be produced and sold through 2018 as well!

https://kotaku.com/nintendo-bringing-back-the-nes-classic-in-2018-1803771394

[Nz17]

A press statement just released by Nintendo of America has confirmed that the Super Nintendo Classic Mini system will continue production into 2018, after originally planning to cut off at the end of this year. NoA is also promising to ship more units on launch day (September 29) than were shipped for the NES Classic Mini in all of 2016 and to keep the unit in high supply while shipments are available.

The NES Classic Mini will also have a new printing next summer. More specific timing on the re-release will be announced later.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/45387/super-nes-classic-mini-production-expanded-nes-classic-to-return-next-summer

[InsaneDavid]

As I'm sure most know by now, Nintendo announced that the NES Classic Mini will RETURN to production, for a Summer 2018 release! In addition, SNES Classic Mini's will continue to be produced and sold through 2018 as well!

https://kotaku.com/nintendo-bringing-back-the-nes-classic-in-2018-1803771394

Worthless without hard manufacturing numbers. All this does is give all the scalpers cause to high five one another, their golden goose is getting ready to lay another batch of eggs for them.

[gameofyou]

So, I subscribe to this magazine from the UK called RetroGamer. When I received this month's issue, included in the bag was an issue of SuperPlay!

http://www.gamingenterprisesinc.com/temp/SuperPlay_48.JPG

It basically covers all the games that will be included in the SNES mini system. It's about 50 pages. Pretty cool!

[AdamAnt316]

Worthless without hard manufacturing numbers. All this does is give all the scalpers cause to high five one another, their golden goose is getting ready to lay another batch of eggs for them.

I just hope Nintendo manages to come through, and the scalpers are the ones left laying eggs. Of course, given Nintendo's recent track record with getting decent quantities of their hardware releases into stores, one can never be sure.......... :rolleyes:

[Nz17]

When I received this month's issue, included in the bag was an issue of SuperPlay! It basically covers all the games that will be included in the SNES mini system. It's about 50 pages. Pretty cool!

Hey, thanks, that is cool!

[WulfeLuer]

I actually talked this over with some IRL friends, and we decided we'll be cautiously excited until further notice. I hope that they don't botch it with a another short production run; artificial, induced scarcity like that is infuriating.

[Nz17]

I managed to collect one of these Super Nintendo Classic Editions thanks to one of my family. Anyone else here manage to get one?

I heard that places that only got a few NES CE's last year got a lot more SNES CE's this time around. For example, the GameStop near me got 3 NES's in 2016, but it got 6 SNES's this year. The Toys 'r' Us where my SNES CE was purchased was allotted a total of 36 SNES CE's.

[Cornelius]

I went to the local (NE Minneapolis) Target at about 9 am yesterday. They had 60 units, with 53 people waiting in line at opening, so by 9 they were all long gone. They did limit to one per person. The staff were really friendly and said 60 was way more than what they got for NES Classic, so hopefully there will continue to be more, though I won't hold my breath. There was one guy asking about it at the same time as me, and as I was shopping for other stuff I saw at least a half dozen more (guys) that I suspected were there for one. Another two in the parking lot.

I feel like walking into a store at 9am on release day for something that's really a pretty simple bit of electronics, one should be able to get it. I don't even blame scalpers anymore, they're just a symptom of the problem.

[jperryss]

The overall feedback I'm seeing on a few other gaming boards and FB groups is that most people were able to get one, though many did wait in line.