sony kv-36hs510 Yay or Nay

[HyruleHero]

sony kv-36hs510 Yay or Nay for retro gaming. It's a Trinitron Wega, looking for feedback, thanks in advance

[Bratwurst]

Looks like it's one of those high definition CRT sets, 240p would be line-doubled into 480p and lack scanlines. There'll be input lag as with a flatscreen LCD and lightgun games are not compatible with those kind of sets. Also it weighs 230 lbs.

[jperryss]

PS2 and newer probably look pretty good on it. Not a good retro gaming TV. If you want a decent CRT for older systems look for a non-HD 4:3 Trinitron.

[Niku-Sama]

I think it would probably be ok but you lose me at 230lbs for a tv

[CRTGAMER]

sony kv-36hs510 Yay or Nay for retro gaming. It's a Trinitron Wega, looking for feedback, thanks in advance

HD CRT will not have input lag
It is a CRT, the scan gun so much faster then your eyes! I use a 32" HD Sony WEGA CRT and love it. ALL video resolutions from 480i-720p-1080i crstal clear; bright even when viewed at extreme angles. Forget the worries of scanlines of SD CRTs the HD tube works very well on older consoles. You do lose out on retro light guns, but a Wii console has games such as House Dead that fill the void.

Grab the rare beast while you can!
In addition, the newer consoles as well as DVD and Bluray are well screened. If a DVI port model, it can easily be hooked up to an HDMI adapter cable though the analog RCA audio inputs will need to be utilized. You will not see SD upscale issues that are prone in LCD and LED flatscreens. Yes, a High Def CRT is very heavy even more then a same sized SD tube, but it is not like you will have to move it again once setup.

The flat tubes have all the inputs including TWO RF, Composite, now uncommon SVideo, Component and DVI/HDMI. I added a thru bolt with hole drilled for safety wire tip prevention.

http://www.racketboy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=5043

Note the internal third surround sound speaker in the back. The large cabinet has a natural "bose reflex" enclosure that cannot be duplicated inside an LED flat screen. I complement the audio by keeping the TV speakers turned on when hooked to a stereo system.

http://www.racketboy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=5088

[Bratwurst]

230 lbs

[RP2A03]

sony kv-36hs510 Yay or Nay for retro gaming. It's a Trinitron Wega, looking for feedback, thanks in advance

I second what Bratwurst said. Except for his misgivings about the weight. Personally, if you have the space, I would get an SD CRT for the retro consoles and either an XBR960 or an XS955 for HD.



HD CRT will not have input lag
It is a CRT, the scan gun so much faster then your eyes!

HD CRTs can and do have lag. The speed of the gun has absolutely nothing to do with it. Deinterlacing necessitates a buffer of at least field plus time to process the picture. Scaling also takes time. These are not multiscan displays.


EDIT: Deinterlacing isn't relevant here unless your monitor is scanning 540p, which I suspect some Sony TVs can be made to do. But for 1080i, any progressive scan signals will have to be frame doubled to produce an interlaced image. In any case, you will still have scaling to deal with, but it shouldn't be as bad as with a fixed pixel display since 480p/960i can be drawn on a 540p/1080i raster and then enlarged to push the black border into the overscan area.




230 lbs

Pshaw. That ain't nothing.


https://i.imgur.com/xPaKMZH.jpg

[Greg2600]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FD_Trinitron/WEGA

If you check out that list, I think you have to steer clear of anything with HDMI or DVI.

[Bratwurst]

HD CRT will not have input lag

As Sir RP2A03 has stated, they do have lag. In fact the transition from analog to digital circuitry on all televisions in the 1990s added some degree of image processing and lag in standard definition sets, which can be mitigated somewhat by cutting down on sharpness, etc, but it's still there. With the HD CRTs I'd say there's noticeable lag* just like RP2A03 explained because of the scaling involved.


Pshaw. That ain't nothing.

While I'm impressed that 45 inch PVMs exist, the matter of any television tube's weight is an important consideration even when they are not the mass equivalent of a bed ridden man who washes himself with a rag on a stick. Like most ultra-heavy lumps, wherever you place them is going to dictate the rest of that room's layout for a long time.

They're boxy, awkward things to handle because they stick out so far in the back- my personal tolerance are 27 inch sets which for a Wega averages at 100 lbs, the most I can move reliably by myself. I own just one of those. I could heft more, but I'm not foolish... and sure you could get a friend to help, but that would make you a crummy acquaintance to ask that kind of favor, wouldn't it? 20 inch sets by my measure are the sweet spot of weight to display ratio.

*For competitive Smash Bros. autists.

[CRTGAMER]

Sorry, I do not buy the Input Lag theory that many attest is the norm not realizing CRTS are a different ball game. I own several CRTs both SD and HD for decades, my preference for viewing. Instead of going with copied opinions on the internet, I see first hand on the video-audio-controller response and never have any lag issues.

[RP2A03]

Sorry, I do not buy the Input Lag theory that many attest is the norm not realizing CRTS are a different ball game. I own several CRTs both SD and HD for decades, my preference for viewing. Instead of going with copied opinions on the internet, I see first hand on the video-audio-controller response and never have any lag issues.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--xY_NvwJ_g


Just because you don't notice it doesn't mean it's not there. Once again, these are not multiscan displays. Scaling has a time penalty.

[eskobar]

Sorry, I do not buy the Input Lag theory that many attest is the norm not realizing CRTS are a different ball game. I own several CRTs both SD and HD for decades, my preference for viewing. Instead of going with copied opinions on the internet, I see first hand on the video-audio-controller response and never have any lag issues.

Is not theoretical input lag, it is measured and it indeed has lag. PS3 looks very nice on HD CRT

[RP2A03]

In fact the transition from analog to digital circuitry on all televisions in the 1990s added some degree of image processing and lag in standard definition sets, which can be mitigated somewhat by cutting down on sharpness, etc, but it's still there.

I believe the only kind of digital processing on those sets comes from the 3D comb filter which has to buffer an entire frame and would do so even if it was analog.

[Bratwurst]

Oh yeah? Well what about closed caption generation and picture-in-picture, mister????? :P

[Greg2600]

Oh yeah? Well what about closed caption generation and picture-in-picture, mister????? :P

Well, unfortunately Sony CRT PIP never worked with component inputs!

[RP2A03]

Oh yeah? Well what about closed caption generation and picture-in-picture, mister????? :P

Closed captioning is done as an overlay and as such does not require the frame to be buffered. With regards to picture-in-picture, I have never felt the need to play Mario while playing Mario. If you want to do that you will need separate displays.