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parallaxscroll
03-12-2019, 02:11 PM
Join us March 19, 2019 10AM PDT live at https://g.co/gdcreveal19 as we unveil Google’s vision for the future of gaming.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJclcGp8K_4

Links:

https://www.cnet.com/news/google-reveals-site-for-its-gdc-2019-game-streaming-service-announcement/
https://gamerant.com/sega-new-console-google-2019/
https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/new-google-video-shows-company-set-to-unveil-vision-for-future-of-gaming-at-gdc-1203161443/
https://www.thegamer.com/rumor-sega-google-console/
https://www.kitguru.net/tech-news/featured-announcement/matthew-wilson/google-working-on-its-own-gaming-console-controller-design-appears-online/

Resetera and NeoGAF discussions:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/google-gdc-2019-teaser.104899/
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-google-is-making-a-console-to-compete-with-nintendo-sony-and-microsoft.104439/

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/google-release-teaser-video-for-gdc-2019.1473462/
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/rumor-sega-possibly-partnering-with-google-on-next-gen-console.1473408/
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/google-patent-shows-possible-controller-design-for-its-game-streaming-service.1473345/

Some people think this could be a cheap device and a controller that plays games by streaming-only.
Others think it be a real, physical console hardware. Or both.

Thoughts? I'd be interested for any exclusive Sega games, whatever Google's effort turns out to be.

gbpxl
03-13-2019, 06:53 AM
Knowing Google, all the games will be free but the device will record all your conversations and a camera installed will monitor what clothes youre wearing and what items are in your house so as to gauge what advertisements you are forced to watch every 5 minutes during gameplay.

Nz17
03-15-2019, 07:09 AM
{Skip ad in 5 seconds... 4... 3... 2... 1... Click.}

Well, I'll tell you what I think about the idea of a new Google-created gaming console.

{Install aPirate anti-malware on your phone today from Google Play. [X] Click.}

Whatever it ends up being, I bet that, other than the console and its controllers, that it'll be a digital-only offering. And hopefully Google won't kill it off as quickly as it has killed off some of its other Google software, hardware, and services (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products#Discontinued_products_and_ services) which it once used to offer.

gbpxl
03-15-2019, 10:10 AM
{Skip ad in 5 seconds... 4... 3... 2... 1... Click.}

Well, I'll tell you what I think about the idea of a new Google-created gaming console.

{Install aPirate anti-malware on your phone today from Google Play. [X] Click.}

Whatever it ends up being, I bet that, other than the console and its controllers, that it'll be a digital-only offering. And hopefully Google won't kill it off as quickly as it has killed off some of its other Google software, hardware, and services (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products#Discontinued_products_and_ services) which it once used to offer.
Digital only meaning obsolete/worthless in five years.

Gameguy
03-15-2019, 09:20 PM
Digital only meaning obsolete/worthless in five years.
It just needs to be hacked, like the recent NES/SNES/PS1 plug and plays. I wouldn't pay for any additional games on a digital only device, not today anyway.

I kind of think it would be cool to play something like the Sega Channel or Satellaview now specifically for the unique content that's essentially lost today, but I don't really have much interest in modern games besides the odd PC title so a modern type of download service doesn't interest me.

Bojay1997
03-18-2019, 12:02 PM
Digital only meaning obsolete/worthless in five years.

Not really. I would liken it to having a large 4K UHD or Blu Ray collection and also subscribing to Netflix. You can be a movie lover and do both, just like you can be a collector of physical games and also enjoy digital games.

Nz17
03-18-2019, 12:54 PM
It looks like the Google talk might be about their console named or code-named "Yeti," and that it is a cloud-based video-game streaming console. I hope you don't plan to truly own your games and that you have a high-speed (25 mbps or faster) Internet connection!

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/17/google-yeti-gaming-announcement-expectations.html

Bojay1997
03-18-2019, 01:24 PM
It looks like the Google talk might be about their console named or code-named "Yeti," and that it is a cloud-based video-game streaming console. I hope you don't plan to truly own your games and that you have a high-speed (25 mbps or faster) Internet connection!

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/17/google-yeti-gaming-announcement-expectations.html

Not everything has to be owned. I have a large collection, but I have some licensed digital games too. Sometimes it's ok to just enjoy something in the moment.

jb143
03-18-2019, 03:17 PM
I hope you don't plan to truly own your games

To truly own a game you either have to make it yourself or buy the rights to it. What you get when you buy a game is a limited license to play the game. When you buy a physical game you get to own the case, disc, etc... but the game itself is owned by the rights holder.

Aussie2B
03-18-2019, 10:08 PM
Oof, that does indeed look wretched.

As for yet another anti-modern, anti-digital conversation springing up, I honestly wonder why some members even bother clicking on the "Modern Gaming" section.

jb143
03-18-2019, 11:46 PM
Hey, look...something physical to collect!

Aussie2B
03-19-2019, 08:47 AM
Low activity or not, I don't see value in immersing myself in things I dislike or have no interest in and being a fountain of negativity. I dislike 99% of gaming videos on Youtube, so I don't even bother clicking on the Gaming Videos section. I could talk about how I can't stand various mega-popular Youtube channels, but I don't want to be the person raining on the parade of those who do like them. Likewise, I barely touch computer games, so I don't waste my time going into the Computer Gaming section.

I couldn't speak for before 2004, but in all my time here, the regulars have always embraced modern gaming. Like the section description says: "As we always say: it doesn't have to be OLD to be CLASSIC." Over the years, I've noticed many regulars would mostly play modern games, while they'd collect, not so much play, retro games. Me, my playing is probably more like 80% retro and 20% modern, though it fluctuates. But whatever floats anybody's boat is fine, and they can talk about whatever they please around here, as long as it's in the appropriate section and not trolling. The Modern Gaming section is hardly a comprehensive look at what's coming out these days, so the lessened activity has hit the entire board.

Aussie2B
03-19-2019, 10:42 AM
Sorry, but I'm not going to steal from content creators just because they don't make physical options of certain content available. Like I said, I have a large collection of physical media, but I don't agree that streaming media has zero value and stealing something digitally is no different than shoplifting physical media.

I agree wholeheartedly with that. I don't get the sense of entitlement that so many people have these days, that if something isn't released 100% exactly as they'd like it, whether that's on their preferred platform or in their preferred format or what have you, then suddenly it's fair game to steal other people's hard work. Either buy the thing or pass on it entirely.

YoshiM
03-19-2019, 03:10 PM
I agree with the Yeti...or whatever it will be called, will most likely be download or streaming. It just fits with Google's push for everyone to have a digital, online lifestyle...under Google.

As for the more conversations about modern games back in the early-to-mid 2000's: there was a lot of cool stuff going on. IMO the games were in between old style game play with fresh visuals along with some decent multiplayer online gaming. Heck, each month for a while I would post what was on each month's demo disc of Official Xbox Magazine. At that point in time, retro seemed kinda quiet.

These days, retro/classic is exploding. We have great, viable ways to get our classic on, we're getting more new titles on "dead" consoles and we're getting new modern consoles that are great replacements for our aging equipment. If this stuff happened then rather than now, the modern to classic chatter would have probably flip-flopped.

Tupin
03-19-2019, 04:57 PM
https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/19/18271702/google-stadia-cloud-gaming-service-announcement-gdc-2019

Supposedly they're making exclusives too.

Nz17
03-19-2019, 07:15 PM
It's called Google Stadia. I might try it if the price is right. Here's a truncated video of the most important parts of the presentation courtesy of Engadget.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeFnQrgtZ9k

bb_hood
03-20-2019, 03:01 AM
A new documentary came out.

Actually related to the topic, the controller got leaked and looks awful.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/t/5c86b6969140b77c3671fd84/1552332440129/?format=2500w

god that looks soo bad

Nz17
03-20-2019, 11:32 AM
Don't worry, bb_hood, that isn't the final design. The Engadget video shows the final three designs which are much better. I personally like the white controller the best, the black one is too generic for me, and the sea-green one looks bad in my eyes.

WulfeLuer
03-20-2019, 10:05 PM
Don't worry, bb_hood, that isn't the final design. The Engadget video shows the final three designs which are much better. I personally like the white controller the best, the black one is too generic for me, and the sea-green one looks bad in my eyes.

I hope you're right. That thing looks less like a controller and more like a generic, cutesy caricature some graphic designer cooked up so he could talk about gaming without getting C and D'd. Those protuberances at either end look uncomfortable to boot.

Anyway, I'm not even sure how this beast is going to create interest, much less become a competitive entry in the market. Come bundled with a game-maker that exploits GIS so would-be devs can steal assets faster than ever before?

I can see the partnership with Sega. This does sound an awful lot like the kind of quixotic denial of reality that Sega adores.

jb143
03-20-2019, 10:10 PM
This article answered some of the latency questions I had...

https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/20/what-latency-feels-like-on-googles-stadia-cloud-gaming-platform/

The article states <70ms...supposedly good enough for most people, IFF you live near one of their datacenters that is. For anyone else it's a no go.

Nz17
03-23-2019, 06:04 AM
To truly own a game you either have to make it yourself or buy the rights to it. What you get when you buy a game is a limited license to play the game. When you buy a physical game you get to own the case, disc, etc... but the game itself is owned by the rights holder.

Obviously. I was using hyperbole to illustrate the dichotomy between buying tangible assets and streaming.

Niku-Sama
03-23-2019, 02:45 PM
i kinda get the feeling this is going to be more of a sega system with a google service. Thats my feeling

Kind of like i get the feeling M$ might throw in the towel on traditional console gaming aswell...

DeputyMoniker
03-26-2019, 06:41 AM
god that looks soo bad

Yeah but I like that d-pad. I wish they would have kept it. I guess the + doesn't lend itself well to fighters or 3D?

Nz17
06-06-2019, 01:39 PM
Stadia is gonna cost $10 per month more or less.


Google Stadia is a cloud-based video game streaming service, and it's launching this November.
Stadia, originally announced in March, will come with a free Base option and a $10 Pro version.
In order to access Stadia, you'll need purchase the $130 'Founder's Edition' or until the service becomes more widely available in 2020.
In March, Google announced that it would be entering the world of gaming in a big way-a complete could-based gaming platform. The idea is to change gaming from physical media, like your DVD collection, to a streaming platform, like Netflix. Of course, Google isn't the first company to attempt this (there's NVIDIA's GeForce Now service, for one), but it could be the company best situated to create a platform that works as seamlessly as possible.

Today, Google announced some of the finer details of its service during an pre-E3 presentation. The service will launch in November, but there's a caveat. In order to access Stadia, you'll need to pay $130 for the 'Founder's Edition.' Then, in 2020, Google will open up invites to everyone.

The promise of Stadia is exactly where you can play these games, which is seemingly everywhere. Google mentions your Chrome browser, through a Chromecast Ultra connected to your TV, or even a Pixel smartphone (more phones will be supported, Google says). And prices range from free, for the Base subscription to $10 for the "Pro" subscription.

But what's the difference? The base edition caps your experience at 1080p but allows you to buy any game you want while the Pro subscription gives you top-notch performance (4k and 6ofps) along with discounts and monthly free games. Google says you'll need 35Mbps to enjoy 4K quality, but that the service will work seamlessly at 720p resolution with just 10Mbps.

Google's also designed a custom controller for the service, called simply the Stadia Controller, which has a two buttons dedicated for a capture button and a Google Assistant button. But Google also stresses that any controller/keyboard will be compatible with Stadia, so it's more of a BYOC situation.

But here's where the real rubber meets the road-the games. Here are some of the highlight titles that will be available at launch:

Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2
DOOM
Metro Exodus
Farming Simulator 19
Baldur's Gate 3
Football Manager
Final Fantasy XV
Borderlands 3
Mortal Kombat 11
Darksiders Genesis
Assassin's Creed Odyssey

Source: https://news.yahoo.com/everything-know-google-stadia-170500466.html

gbpxl
06-11-2019, 08:17 PM
I think its gonna be hard to attract people to Stadia without exclusives at launch. All those games can be bought on other systems right?