Another cash-in? Sega announces Genesis/Mega Drive Mini

[AdamAnt316]

https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/30/segas-genesis-mega-drive-mini-arrives-in-september/

I know that Sega has been producing their Flashback consoles through AtGames for the past several years, but this looks like it was meant as an answer to the NES/SNES Classic Mini (and again, a less-than-inventive name). Supposed to offer 40 built-in games (nothing mentioned about playing actual cartridges, as with the AtGames offerings), with the following having been announced thus far:


Ecco the Dolphin

Castlevania: Bloodlines

Space Harrier II

Shining Force

Dr. Robotnik�s Mean Bean Machine

ToeJam & Earl

Comix Zone

Sonic the Hedgehog

Altered Beast

Gunstar Heroes

Release is set for September 19th, and the US price has been set at $80. Another article about it can be found here (https://kotaku.com/sega-will-release-the-genesis-mini-on-september-19-1833681956), and Sega's own page about the Mega Drive Mini (in Japanese) can be found here (https://sega.jp/mdmini/).

[Koa Zo]

Decent selection of games.

[Aussie2B]

Agreed, pretty good selection, and 40 games is a decent amount.

I wonder if the presence of Castlevania: Bloodlines on this means Konami might skip including Bloodlines on the Castlevania collection they're putting out.

[Robocop2]

Awesome this will be a nice way to round out my mini console collection. Now if they would just release a TG-16 mini....

[Greg2600]

This was technically announced last year, but has been greatly delayed. Looks very nice, and will pick one up. Personally I prefer the 3-button pads being included. Hopefully the emulation is spot on.

[AdamAnt316]

This was technically announced last year, but has been greatly delayed. Looks very nice, and will pick one up. Personally I prefer the 3-button pads being included. Hopefully the emulation is spot on.

Yeah, one thing I find promising about this Mini is that Sega finally decided to not take the lazy way out and release still another crappy clone through AtGames as they've been doing for several years now. Apparently that's what caused the delay; Sega originally intended to work with AtGames yet again on the Mini as a follow-up to the Flashback HD (https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/13/16051258/sega-genesis-flashback-hd-review), but they must've finally wised up and realized that the AtCrap just doesn't hold a candle to Nintendo's well-done mini consoles. Hopefully, Sega will be able to produce something which makes for a proper answer to Nintendo's mini consoles, and is able to get them to stores in sufficient numbers.
-Adam

[Greg2600]

AtGames was more interested in pumping out in quantity, barely improving what were still highly inferior products. This will sell decently, but frankly, this is a one-time deal. I mean, once you have one, why would you need to buy more in the future? Unless they shockingly decide to do the same for Saturn or Dreamcast.

[AdamAnt316]

AtGames was more interested in pumping out in quantity, barely improving what were still highly inferior products. This will sell decently, but frankly, this is a one-time deal. I mean, once you have one, why would you need to buy more in the future? Unless they shockingly decide to do the same for Saturn or Dreamcast.

Yeah, that's pretty much been the case with the numerous Atari Flashbacks past the 2. I'm glad that Nintendo has provided some true competiton in the mini console market since all of the AtCrap had been sailing along on its mediocrity for far too long. I could see Sega releasing a follow-up version of the Genesis/MD Mini which looks like the II, likely with six button controllers, and possibly featuring SegaCD and/or 32X games as well. Beyond that, I'm not sure whether there's enough nostalgia to support a Saturn/DC Mini, but if Nintendo were to release a N64 Mini, it may well prove a possibility.
-Adam

[Tupin]

Why does Japan get the six-button controller but not the US?

[Greg2600]

Why does Japan get the six-button controller but not the US?

Probably for nostalgia, as the 3-button was the stock controller for most of the system's life.

[Tron 2.0]

Good thing,that M2 is doing the software emulation this time around since they have experience through the sega ages releases.I'm surprised that konami license out castlevania bloodlines for the genesis mini though.

[Nz17]

I'm glad that Yuzo Koshiro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuzo_Koshiro) is composing the music for the menus of the Genesis / Mega Drive Mini. He's worked on a lot of 8-bit and 16-bit SEGA games and will be sampling the included games' music for the menus. He composed the music for some of my favorite Game Gear games!


This vid shows the transition of how I made Genesis music from mucom88win. I love real Mega Drive's ladder noise. so amazing! (Music sample: Candy Sprint from 16bit Rhythm Land)

Music video: https://twitter.com/yuzokoshiro/status/1113852731716816896

[Gameguy]

AtGames was more interested in pumping out in quantity, barely improving what were still highly inferior products. This will sell decently, but frankly, this is a one-time deal. I mean, once you have one, why would you need to buy more in the future?
You'd be surprised. Plenty of people seem to keep rebuying the same games over and over again. Even for this version there's no mention if this is in 4K or not so there'll have to be a 4K version for people to buy at some point.

[AdamAnt316]

Sega Genesis Mini preorders now open (https://www.cnet.com/deals/sega-genesis-mini-console-preorders-for-80-free-shipping-17949462/)

And we now know the full list of built-in games (https://www.cnet.com/news/sega-genesis-mini-release-date-and-pricing-announced/)! Here they are:


Sonic the Hedgehog
Ecco the Dolphin
Castlevania: Bloodlines
Space Harrier 2
Shining Force
Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
ToeJam & Earl
Comix Zone
Altered Beast
Gunstar Heroes
Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse
World of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck
Thunder Force III
Super Fantasy Zone
Shinobi III
Streets of Rage 2
Earthworm Jim
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Contra: Hard Corps
Landstalker
Mega Man: The Wily Wars (This is a compilation of the first three Mega Man games)
Street Fighter 2': Special Champion Edition
Ghouls 'n Ghosts
Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle
Beyond Oasis
Golden Axe
Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium
Sonic the Hedgehog Spinball
Vectorman
Wonder Boy in Monster World
Tetris
Darius
Virtua Fighter 2
Alisia Dragoon
Monster World IV
Kid Chameleon
Road Rash II
Eternal Champions
Columns
Dynamite Headdy
Strider
Light Crusader

Yep, they added two extra games to bring the total to 42. Should be interesting! 8-)
-Adam

[Gameguy]

They're adding The Wily Wars, Tetris, and Monster World IV to this? It's looking interesting at the very least. How'd they manage Tetris as I thought they lost the rights to sell a home console version?

[Tron 2.0]

I guess sega was listening in putting monster world iv on the (genesis mini) such a classic for the console.Still i'm baffled why,VF2 is in there i'd rather play the arcade original or the saturn port instead.If sega needed another fighter i think fatal fury 2 would have been a better choice the combos,that you can pull off are way better compared to the neo-geo original.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BELG1_8HcA

[Aussie2B]

That's a really solid lineup. It's great to see the official English release of Monster World IV on there, considering its availability has decreased since its release in 2012 (as you obviously can't get it on Wii anymore, and I don't know if it's playable on any current gen system. I think the PSN release is PS3-only.)

[Greg2600]

They're adding The Wily Wars, Tetris, and Monster World IV to this? It's looking interesting at the very least. How'd they manage Tetris as I thought they lost the rights to sell a home console version?

The rights were managed for decades by ELORG (USSR) then The Tetris Company. While yes Nintendo had them at the time, I don't believe that contract lasted much longer as they were selling Tetris ports and sequels on competing systems within a few years.

[Nz17]

Meanwhile in Japan, the newest additions are:


Alisia Dragoon
Assault Suits Leynos
Columns
Darius
Dynamite Headdy
Langrisser II
Lord Monarch
Monster World IV
Road Rash II
Slap Fight MD
Snow Bros.: Nick & Tom
Tetris

But that's not all! As a Japanese exclusive, there is also the Tower Mini. That's right, there will be a special set of add-ons for the Mega Drive Mini called the Mega Drive Tower Mini. It will include non-functional, plastic replicas of the various extra add-ons for the original console. The tower includes a mini Super 32X, a mini Mega CD, a mini lock-on cartridge of Sonic & Knuckles, and a mini Mega Drive cartridge of Sonic The Hedgehog. The tower will launch the same day as the Mega Drive Mini on September 19, 2019. The Tower Mini will cost 3,980 yen ($37 USD).

Sources:
https://www.siliconera.com/2019/06/04/mega-drive-mini-and-genesis-minis-final-12-games-includes-cancelled-darius-and-tetris-games/
https://www.siliconera.com/2019/06/04/the-mega-drive-mini-is-getting-a-special-version-complete-with-all-the-extra-add-ons/

[Robocop2]

The game differences don’t bug me too much as a lot of the different ones I never cared for. It’s a shame they have so many games that are on nearly every genesis collection though.
I’m more sad about the 6 button controller and that tower mini addon set being JP only than anything else

[Nz17]

Well, the controllers are universal, a North American company will be manufacturing and selling official 6 button wired controllers for the SEGA Genesis Mini, and the Tower can be imported and used with a North American console, so all is not lost.

[gbpxl]

No sports games is a huge disservice to the platform. At least put the mutant games on it

[Tron 2.0]

No sports games is a huge disservice to the platform. At least put the mutant games on it
While the genesis was known for it's sports games.I don't see it as a lost for not any being on the mini.Also if they wanted some thing like madden or nhl,that's a license right there plus paying royalties for it.I think it's more of a shame that musha isn't on the u.s model while jpn get's it.

[mailman187666]

No sports games is a huge disservice to the platform. At least put the mutant games on it

It is very likely that Sega did their market research and saw that many gamers/collectors don't value old sports games, as well as licensing.

[gbpxl]

It is very likely that Sega did their market research and saw that many gamers/collectors don't value old sports games, as well as licensing.
I guess they researched differently than I did because the youtube comments and podcasters have said otherwise

[jperryss]

I guess they researched differently than I did because the youtube comments and podcasters have said otherwise

I'm not the target market for this thing, but I'm in a few gaming groups on FB and the consensus is that Sega knocked it out of the park with this game list.

[gbpxl]

I'm not the target market for this thing, but I'm in a few gaming groups on FB and the consensus is that Sega knocked it out of the park with this game list.
Oh well im not getting it either way so what do i care. I have a Genesis and those games are cheap. No need to rebuy them

[Tron 2.0]

My Life in Gaming,has a preview and it looks good plus M2 did tweak some games.Still it's a shame japan get's musha,snow brothers and slap fight while the u.s doesn't.Still it's great that the u.s get's monster world iv such a gem in the wonderboy series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbr5eP6KO_o

My only other complaint jpn get's a six button controller pack in while the u.s doesn't.Though,retrobit six button genesis usb controller is compatible with the genesis mini.

[mailman187666]

I guess they researched differently than I did because the youtube comments and podcasters have said otherwise

I don't know, I'm looking at completed listings for Genesis sports games, and it is mostly unsold merchandise. The few that sell are usually under $10 CIB. Not sure why Sega would include games that people don't want to spend money on, for a product that they want people to spend money on. Granted there are plenty of people that enjoy the older sports games, but I find that people have a hard time giving them away, much less making anything off of them. Every game store near me (other than gamestop) all refuse sports title as trade-ins.

[Niku-Sama]

apparently the 6 button has been out a little while, i just noticed they updated the product page for this to add the mini
https://www.amazon.com/Retro-Bit-Official-Controller-8-Button-Raspberry/dp/B07P2B7SKH/ref=wl_mb_wl_huc_mrai_3_dp?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07P2B7SKH&pd_rd_r=190BAY1853GPTGJ97MDK&pd_rd_w=hODRu&pd_rd_wg=qO2sG&pf_rd_p=eef9c7bd-10f9-4dd2-8aa3-f83976b6a214&pf_rd_r=190BAY1853GPTGJ97MDK

[gbpxl]

I don't know, I'm looking at completed listings for Genesis sports games, and it is mostly unsold merchandise. The few that sell are usually under $10 CIB. Not sure why Sega would include games that people don't want to spend money on, for a product that they want people to spend money on. Granted there are plenty of people that enjoy the older sports games, but I find that people have a hard time giving them away, much less making anything off of them. Every game store near me (other than gamestop) all refuse sports title as trade-ins.
The older licensed sports games have a very niche audience for sure. Someone would have to be a retro gamer, and have also wanted to follow the sports teams a lot back when these games came out. Its pretty rare for someone to be nostalgiac for a game that doesnt look that much different now compared to 20 years ago

[Tron 2.0]

Well i got sega genesis mini recently any one else here did ? All around id say this is a solid product M2 did a great job with the emulation but,lag can occur for sound effects so that's only part that falls short.I hardly notice the sound lag either but games are very playable so no lost.The most criticism i have is that i still think alex kidd and VF2 are a waste on the system.If i were in charge i would have replace those games with some thing different.By the way before some one ask yes it's pack in controllers are three buttons but retrobit does sell six button ones that are compatible,with the genesis mini.Also as a added bonus if you select japanese as you're language you can play the japanese version of said games.Such as "dr.robotink mean bean machine becomes puyo puyo" and contra hard corps has features not in the u.s version.

[Robocop2]

I bought one and other than opening it to admire and then putting it back into its box I haven’t hooked it up yet. Not really sure when or if I will Honestly the two Nintendo clsssics I bought and am kinda holding just as display items though.

Incidentally; I was looking at Amazon earlier and it appears there is a TG-16 mini coming next year. Supposed to be an Amazon exclusive and the games list seems pretty good even has Air Zonk and a few Turbo CD games if reports are correct. I still wish it would have Legendary Axe on there but it does have alot of others

[AdamAnt316]

I bought one of these shortly after release, but only now got around to playing it. The controllers are more sensitive than I remember the originals being, particularly with regards to the D-pads, but overall they feel pretty good. The game selection is pretty good, apart from lacking Sonic 3 and S&K (guessing they're being held back for a Genesis Mini 2), and I wouldn't have minded a sports-type game of some sort. Overall, though, they seem to have done a good job.
-Adam

[Tron 2.0]

I bought one of these shortly after release, but only now got around to playing it. The controllers are more sensitive than I remember the originals being, particularly with regards to the D-pads, but overall they feel pretty good. The game selection is pretty good, apart from lacking Sonic 3 and S&K (guessing they're being held back for a Genesis Mini 2), and I wouldn't have minded a sports-type game of some sort. Overall, though, they seem to have done a good job.
-Adam
Dunno if sonic 3 would happen on another genesis mini the game is a license issue for it's music.

[gbpxl]

These mini consoles just make me appreciate original hardware more. I could see really liking it if I didnt have an upscaler or any of the old games and didnt want to collect but just play some of the must have titles so I suppose Im not the target audience for this

[AdamAnt316]

Dunno if sonic 3 would happen on another genesis mini the game is a license issue for it's music.
Hopefully, they can figure out something with the licensing before the release of a Mini 2. It'd also be nice to see Sonic & Knuckles, as well as a 'lock-on' option. My guess is that a Mini 2 would be based around the looks of the Genesis 2, and include 6 button controllers. Hopefully, it'd also include Sega CD and/or 32X games in addition to more Genesis ones.


These mini consoles just make me appreciate original hardware more. I could see really liking it if I didnt have an upscaler or any of the old games and didnt want to collect but just play some of the must have titles so I suppose Im not the target audience for this
Like with anything having to do with these mini consoles, it's all about convenience. Rather than having to drag out a real Genesis/Mega Drive with all of its cartridges and associated accessories, having to deal with cleaning contacts and hooking the video output through an upscaler or whatnot to make it look good with a modern TV, all you have to do with one of these is connect the power and controllers, hook it directly to the HDMI port on a flatscreen, flip the power switch, and start playing. I appreciate real hardware as much as anyone, but I rarely have the time or space to deal with it these days. :roll:
-Adam

[gbpxl]

I agree with all that but I dont know why Sega/Nintendo cant make a console that accepts cartridges. A sample of 42 games when the Genesis has 707+ (just in North America alone) is a really small sample size.

The best thing we have now is the Analogue consoles but even those have issues

[AdamAnt316]

I agree with all that but I dont know why Sega/Nintendo cant make a console that accepts cartridges. A sample of 42 games when the Genesis has 707+ (just in North America alone) is a really small sample size.

The best thing we have now is the Analogue consoles but even those have issues
Both Sega and Nintendo likely don't want to have to deal with the hassle of supporting someone's attempts to use said 20+ year old cartridges, and deal with the dirty contacts and other defects potentionally involved. Also, convenience likely comes into play once again; why would someone futz around with making 20+ year old cartridges work when the built-in games don't need such hassle? AtGames did include cartridge slots with their consoles, but unlike the Genesis/MD Mini, those are not supported directly by Sega; besides, making them able to accept cartridges made them larger than these Minis. The only Atari Flashbacks to offer cartridge support were the 2 and 2+, which required both user modification and (surprise surprise) voiding the manufacturer's warranty in order to do so.
-Adam

[gbpxl]

Both Sega and Nintendo likely don't want to have to deal with the hassle of supporting someone's attempts to use said 20+ year old cartridges, and deal with the dirty contacts and other defects potentionally involved. Also, convenience likely comes into play once again; why would someone futz around with making 20+ year old cartridges work when the built-in games don't need such hassle? AtGames did include cartridge slots with their consoles, but unlike the Genesis/MD Mini, those are not supported directly by Sega; besides, making them able to accept cartridges made them larger than these Minis. The only Atari Flashbacks to offer cartridge support were the 2 and 2+, which required both user modification and (surprise surprise) voiding the manufacturer's warranty in order to do so.
-Adam

I agree with all of that. I noticed too that you said they should have included a sports game. M2/Sega just bought into the stupid trend of "sports games suck and are worthless." Licensing notwithstanding, there were plenty of sports games they couldve brought back from the dead. If it werent for sports games, there probably wouldnt even be a Genesis. I mean there were other games obviously but it seems like for every 1 sports cart sold, there was 1 non-sports cart.

[AdamAnt316]

And now they're planning a sequel:

The Sega Genesis Mini Gets a Major Update With Sega CD Games and (For Now) Japan Exclusivity (https://gizmodo.com/sega-genesis-mini-mega-drive-2-cd-japan-only-exclusive-1849014390)

Hopefully we'll be getting this in the US at some point...

[Greg2600]

It's cute, but beyond that ehhhh.

[Tron 2.0]

And now they're planning a sequel:

The Sega Genesis Mini Gets a Major Update With Sega CD Games and (For Now) Japan Exclusivity (https://gizmodo.com/sega-genesis-mini-mega-drive-2-cd-japan-only-exclusive-1849014390)

Hopefully we'll be getting this in the US at some point...
The theory was it was gonna be the dreamcast mini.Still for the longest time "popful mail and shining force cd" were in limbo for re-releases goes.I'm disappointed in this announcement but if it get's a western release id buy one.

[AdamAnt316]

The theory was it was gonna be the dreamcast mini.Still for the longest time "popful mail and shining force cd" were in limbo for re-releases goes.I'm disappointed in this announcement but if it get's a western release id buy one.

According to this article, there will indeed be a worldwide release (https://www.gamesradar.com/sega-genesis-mini-2-over-drive-mini-2-confirmed/). Still no word on the US price or the included titles beyond a handful, with no mention of Sonic 3 and/or Knuckles... :?

[Tron 2.0]

According to this article, there will indeed be a worldwide release (https://www.gamesradar.com/sega-genesis-mini-2-over-drive-mini-2-confirmed/). Still no word on the US price or the included titles beyond a handful, with no mention of Sonic 3 and/or Knuckles... :?
Yeah japan first then supposedly a western release still sonic 3 and sonic&knuckles will be in the sonic origins collection.

[YoshiM]

I like that there are Sega CD titles on there. I'm hoping Sega will splurge for the F-14 license so we can get "Afterburner II" if it comes to the States.

[Gameguy]

If it comes out in America I hope it will make the original games cheaper in price. I'm not really into these modern mini consoles in terms of owning them. Maybe if they're cheap at a yard sale eventually.

[Edmond Dantes]

I might buy this new mini just for Shining Force CD since a legit disc is stupid expensive now.

[Niku-Sama]

i like these mini console versions. seeing how most of them can be hacked it makes it a bit more fun for me i guess.

i'd get it if the price was right

[Gameguy]

I mostly don't like how these are pretty much HDMI only, I don't have HD displays so I would probably need a converter if I really wanted to use them. Composite output would be much more convenient. Otherwise I would just use emulation elsewhere, or for Sega CD games I could just burn them to disc as there's no copy protection. There's just other options I could use instead of these.

[Tron 2.0]

More games have been announced it's great that ninja warriors and splatterhouse 2 are being included.Secondhand they have become very expensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmxxQIRif18

[YoshiM]

More games have been announced it's great that ninja warriors and splatterhouse 2 are being included.Secondhand they have become very expensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmxxQIRif18

Annnnnd Afterburner 2! Please send it stateside, Sega!

[AdamAnt316]

Annnnnd Afterburner 2! Please send it stateside, Sega!

Not only that, but Sega will be resurrecting the gigantic flightstick controller (https://gizmodo.com/sega-gigantic-flight-stick-controller-for-mega-drive-mi-1849105479) which goes with it!

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/9029677219b86f5b09e65134ae99982a.jpg

[Niku-Sama]

will it be mini too?

[Nz17]

Specifically from https://www.comingsoon.net/games/news/1228296-sega-announces-11-more-games-mega-drive-mini-2 ,

OutRun
After Burner II
Night Striker
The Ninja Warriors
Starblade
Splatterhouse 2
Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water
Megapanel
Puzzle & Action: Ichidant-R
Columns III: Revenge of the Columns
Star Mobile (Mega Drive debut) {This is a brand-new port of an old arcade game. -Nz17}

And then there is this:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/06/adorable-japan-only-sega-mega-drive-mini-2-faithfully-recreates-the-sega-cd/


The console is all you need to play the games, Sega CD titles included, but for maximum authenticity, Sega is selling a purely cosmetic Sega CD accessory. It includes period-accurate mounting hardware and spacers for either version of the Mega Drive Mini, a tiny Virtua Racing cartridge, and a tiny Sonic the Hedgehog CD disc. The attachment will also be released in October for 4,500 yen (about $35).

Emulation is being handled by M2, the same team that did the original Mega Drive Mini. If the console is released outside of Japan, pricing, accessories, the design of the console, and the list of playable games may be different.

[AdamAnt316]

Looks like October 27th is the release date for the Sega Genesis Mini 2:

Amazon leaks Genesis Mini 2—Sega immediately confirms its October 27 launch (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/07/sega-genesis-mini-2-brings-the-sega-cd-era-to-a-tiny-console-on-october-27/)

And for good measure, Sega's official page concerning the Genesis Mini 2 can be found here (https://sega.jp/genesismini2/).

For good-er(?) measure, the Amazon listing which spurred the announcement can be found here (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B4D19JJ4?&linkCode=sl1&tag=arstech20-20&linkId=51c08390e2d604ecd3a555990b8edd4f&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl).

[Niku-Sama]

wow and the item title even says "For Sales in North America"

[Greg2600]

Meh Amazon exclusive

[Gametrek]

Meh Amazon exclusive


You know what is funny about so many purchases ? They are totaly like click-bait to get you to submit your information guessing your probably using a phone that is on 24/7.
This and the "Megaman X Dive" on android that requires a facebook or google login. What do you really get with this? The same thing that is staring me off the corner of my eye.

I really wish SEGA could just combine all of their systems into one big package, but alias the joke becomes even funnier. The Dreamcast uses these CD-alternatives rather then a full on DVD-rom
drive and has a built in region block. So we would probably end up with a Blu-ray alternative with the option to use all cartridges in the rear and possibly save files to SD-flash. But here comes some random programmer who decides to backwards hack it.

I look at these little systems and think of my younger self going nuts and then throwing the controller down and then watching the system fly up at the same time.

Also remember this is"Sega-Sammy holdings". I mean okay cute, I get it, I see some parent buying this for their kids and then be like "Oh wows a Genesis"

Like having this technology in front of peoples faces when they see it in the living-room. "What is that". It is like that movie "Space 2000" with the apes and the monolith.

[Tron 2.0]

Looks like October 27th is the release date for the Sega Genesis Mini 2:

Amazon leaks Genesis Mini 2—Sega immediately confirms its October 27 launch (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/07/sega-genesis-mini-2-brings-the-sega-cd-era-to-a-tiny-console-on-october-27/)

And for good measure, Sega's official page concerning the Genesis Mini 2 can be found here (https://sega.jp/genesismini2/).

For good-er(?) measure, the Amazon listing which spurred the announcement can be found here (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B4D19JJ4?&linkCode=sl1&tag=arstech20-20&linkId=51c08390e2d604ecd3a555990b8edd4f&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl).
It's the turbografx 16 mini all over again since the sega genesis mini II is shipping from amazon japan nani !??

[AdamAnt316]

Looks like the Genesis Mini 2 will be hard to come by:

Sega’s Genesis Mini 2 will have ‘one-tenth’ the supply, Sega says (https://www.polygon.com/23286985/sega-genesis-mini-2-games-release-date-how-to-order-amazon)
Sega’s Genesis Mini 2 will only get ‘a small number of units’ in North America (https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/1/23287240/sega-genesis-mini-2-north-american-release-reduced-quantities)

Hopefully this will be remedied before the end of the production run. Supply chain issues strike again... :shameful:

[Gameguy]

Looks like the Genesis Mini 2 will be hard to come by:

Sega’s Genesis Mini 2 will have ‘one-tenth’ the supply, Sega says (https://www.polygon.com/23286985/sega-genesis-mini-2-games-release-date-how-to-order-amazon)
Sega’s Genesis Mini 2 will only get ‘a small number of units’ in North America (https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/1/23287240/sega-genesis-mini-2-north-american-release-reduced-quantities)

Hopefully this will be remedied before the end of the production run. Supply chain issues strike again... :shameful:
So it costs over $120 to get an emulation box? And only available at all in North America because they figured out that they could sell it using a specific feature that Amazon allowed?

Sega really has fallen a long way.

“by using Amazon’s ‘Japan Store’ system, we found that at least a small number of units could be sold via Amazon.com, so a portion was allocated to make the North American version.”

Thankfully Amazon had a way that Sega could sell their products to North America, otherwise Sega would be powerless to accomplish this. Unbelievable.

[Niku-Sama]

Looks like the Genesis Mini 2 will be hard to come by:

Sega’s Genesis Mini 2 will have ‘one-tenth’ the supply, Sega says (https://www.polygon.com/23286985/sega-genesis-mini-2-games-release-date-how-to-order-amazon)
Sega’s Genesis Mini 2 will only get ‘a small number of units’ in North America (https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/1/23287240/sega-genesis-mini-2-north-american-release-reduced-quantities)

Hopefully this will be remedied before the end of the production run. Supply chain issues strike again... :shameful:

no this doesent sound like a supply chain issue, and before any one says it theres no chip shortage too. TSMC and other fabs are telling their clients to come get their completed orders and they are dragging their feet.

this sounds more like a money issue

[Baloo]

Input lag was honestly so bad on the Genesis Mini 1 that I traded it and went and bought an original Model 1 to play games on. Much better investment when you can get original genesis consoles fairly cheaply. The games on the other hand are a different ballgame...

[AdamAnt316]

The full list (https://gizmodo.com/sega-genesis-mini-2-console-full-game-list-cd-sonic-1849432275) of games on the Sega Genesis Mini 2 has been announced:

Sega Genesis games:

After Burner II
Alien Soldier
Atomic Runner
Bonanza Bros.
ClayFighter
Crusader of Centy
Desert Strike: Return to the Gulf
Earthworm Jim 2
Elemental Master
Fatal Fury 2
Gain Ground
Golden Axe II
Granada
Hellfire
Herzog Zwei
Lightening Force: Quest for the Darkstar
Midnight Resistance
OutRun
OutRunners
Phantasy Star II
Populous
Rainbow Islands
Ranger-X
Ristar
Rolling Thunder 2
Shadow Dancer: The Secret of Shinobi
Shining Force II
Shining in the Darkness
Sonic 3D Blast
Splatterhouse 2
Streets of Rage 3
Super Hang-On
Super Street Fighter II The New Challengers
The Ooze
The Revenge of Shinobi
ToeJam & Earl in Panic on Funkotron
Truxton
VectorMan 2
Viewpoint
Virtua Racing
Warsong


Sega CD games:

Ecco the Dolphin (The Enhanced CD Version)
Ecco: The Tides of Time (The Enhanced CD Version)
Final Fight CD
Mansion of Hidden Souls
Night Striker
Night Trap
Robo Aleste
Sewer Shark
Shining Force CD
Silpheed
Sonic The Hedgehog CD
The Ninja Warriors


Bonus games (unreleased/ports):

Devi & Pii
Fantasy Zone
Space Harrier II (+Space Harrier)
Spatter
Star Mobile
Super Locomotive
VS Puyo Puyo Sun


That adds up to a total of 60. Makes the sting of having to buy it from Japan a bit less, but I suppose that's subjective... :hmm:

Video announcement from Sega:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzE_oH-MDAM

[RARusk]

The true value won't be known until the hackers get their hands on it, break it open, and see what they can throw on it.

[Az]

Not that I expected any different, but there's a few real turds on there. They really dropped the ball with the CD games on the US version. Nothing from Core, no Eternal Champions, no Lunar, Keio, or Popful Mail, but we get Sewer Shark and Night Trap....ugh. And while both Night Strikers and The Ninja Warriors are cool additions, they weren't even released in the West so most buyers don't even care about them.

Why not just throw the 3 or 4 decent 32x games on there while they're at it? Does anyone really want to play inferior versions of Afterburner II and Virtua Racing?

The Space Harrier II reworking looks cool, but not $100 cool, and the other new titles are complete throwaways.

If you look at 8 & 16-bit retro rereleases for the different modern day platforms like the Switch online service, cartridge rereleases, or other mini consoles, there's about a half dozen different companies (or shambling corpses of IP holders) that all license out the same shit over and over. Jaleco, Irem, Data East, Interplay, Namco; if a game you liked isn't held by one of those companies you're probably shit out of luck.

[YoshiM]

I might be one of the few but I LOVE Sewer Shark. This has all the other games I wanted so it’s ordered.

[Tron 2.0]

Disappointed no lunars and popful mail for the u.s version of the mini II,unless later on hacks open it up.Beside i also see it pointless for it to have night trap when the game all ready got the remaster treatment for modern consoles.

[YoshiM]

Disappointed no lunars and popful mail for the u.s version of the mini II,unless later on hacks open it up.Beside i also see it pointless for it to have night trap when the game all ready got the remaster treatment for modern consoles.

Yeah that would have been nice to get the Lunars but who knows what the asking price was to get those games on the system. As for "Night Trap"-why not be able to play it in its quasi-original glory? I don't know if the remaster allows it nor do I know how well the remaster plays compared to the original. Personally I'd like the original on all the FMV based games as that's how I remembered playing it. To me it'd be like watching a colorized version of a favorite black and white film. Or the director's cut of "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"-I like the originals, please.

Still kinda floored the got the FMV titles they did. And got the Lockheed license to put "Afterburner II" on the console. I think it was gaming providence that when I opened my YouTube app that the Mini 2 video was right at the top of the feed. My jaw dropped at the sight of the titles I hoped for (though couldn't make a sound as everyone was sleeping). After I bopped over to Amazon to pre-order it. Yeah I can play these games on any emulator but this is nice, legit and I'm supporting Sega and the licensors. This gets games into both old and new gamers' hands to take a trip back in time without breaking the bank.

[Cloud121]

Pre-ordered the Japanese version, the CyberStick, and the Mega CD add-on back on July 3, and then this week took a chance an pre-ordered the US version. Herzog Zwei is going for around $90 complete, so that alone justifies buying the US version.

Kind of bummed we didn't get Vay in order to complete the "Big Four", and I was also hoping that after Sega and Konami got cozy together with the original Mini, that they would maybe, JUST MAYBE give us Snatcher on the new one (I guess that makes it the "Big Five").

On the Japanese site, it says we can play games in their respective language if it got released in that region. Though HIGHLY unlikely, will we be able play the US versions of Lunar, Lunar 2, and Popful Mail?

With the exception of Vay and Terminator, these two consoles will fill in all the gaps of my Mega CD collection (Lunar, Lunar 2, Night Trap, Robo Aleste, Shining Force CD, and Mansion of Hidden Souls), and I will now finally own Herzog Zwei, Alien Soldier, Target Earth, Crusader of Centy, Truxton, and Thunder Force IV (basically the only games I am missing from my MegaDrive cartridge collection (Oh... Missing Shaodwrun as well)).

So after 20 years of MegaDrive and Mega CD collecting, I suppose I can now finally say my collection for both will be complete (except Terminator and Shadowrun).

[Gameguy]

Honestly the games on this release are pretty good, there's lots of good and hard to find titles included. I still won't be getting this as it's only HDMI output and I don't use HD displays but it's a nice selection being included, of course it doesn't include everything great and there's some mediocre titles thrown in but that's so there can be another one released after this.

I thought about Snatcher as well but it would need a light gun for the full experience so that may be why it's not included.

I still would want to own the legit original versions of these games to play on my actual systems but if I ever went the emulation route I would probably emulate them on something else, the HD only output is really what's holding me back from fully accepting these releases. Otherwise I might look into flashcarts to play these games on original consoles. I might have felt different if these came out 15-20 years ago back when other plug and play systems were really popular.

[Tron 2.0]

Yeah that would have been nice to get the Lunars but who knows what the asking price was to get those games on the system. As for "Night Trap"-why not be able to play it in its quasi-original glory? I don't know if the remaster allows it nor do I know how well the remaster plays compared to the original. Personally I'd like the original on all the FMV based games as that's how I remembered playing it. To me it'd be like watching a colorized version of a favorite black and white film. Or the director's cut of "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"-I like the originals, please.

Still kinda floored the got the FMV titles they did. And got the Lockheed license to put "Afterburner II" on the console. I think it was gaming providence that when I opened my YouTube app that the Mini 2 video was right at the top of the feed. My jaw dropped at the sight of the titles I hoped for (though couldn't make a sound as everyone was sleeping). After I bopped over to Amazon to pre-order it. Yeah I can play these games on any emulator but this is nice, legit and I'm supporting Sega and the licensors. This gets games into both old and new gamers' hands to take a trip back in time without breaking the bank.
From what i heard sega is just paying a flat rate for the third party games and that wouldn't be enough for victor ireland.So who's to blame sega being to cheap or victor being greedy over royalties.Since working designs localize and publish both lunar games and popful mail.I have the night trap remaster for PS4 while it's still a laughing bad game for sure.Better picture quality and cut content also this video is old now but mlig has a behind the scene video on night trap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df2zptiviBo

By the way it's great the genesis mini II will have crusader of centy the u.s version of that has become very expensive.

[The S]

I will never understand people who refuse to do anything with something they have/own but also disallow others to do anything with it or try to price it too high for them to.

What's the point of just sitting on your rights to something forever while it goes disused?

[Niku-Sama]

From what i heard sega is just paying a flat rate for the third party games and that wouldn't be enough for victor ireland.So who's to blame sega being to cheap or victor being greedy over royalties.Since working designs localize and publish both lunar games and popful mail.I have the night trap remaster for PS4 while it's still a laughing bad game for sure.Better picture quality and cut content also this video is old now but mlig has a behind the scene video on night trap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df2zptiviBo

By the way it's great the genesis mini II will have crusader of centy the u.s version of that has become very expensive.

it seems strange that sega games ((minus the saturn) are expensive. i remember a time when they were so much cheaper than the rest of the systems. kinda like xbox now.

i guess even the worst wines ferment to something better but take longer to do so, but they still might be bad.