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Greg2600
06-11-2019, 09:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOXlnZqPUuE

https://i.imgur.com/odw2LSM.jpg

Tupin
06-11-2019, 09:38 PM
I'm excited, but seeing the reaction from a lot of people who don't even know what a TG-16 is was funny. Also, does the US only get one version while Japan gets two? Why not just make a Turbo Duo Mini for everyone? Weird.

Edmond Dantes
06-11-2019, 09:51 PM
Waiting until the games are announced.

Aussie2B
06-11-2019, 09:55 PM
Yeah, I was just on Twitter and laughing at all the kiddies who have no idea what it is and are mad that it's not Metal Gear/Castlevania/Suikoden/etc. Oh well, their loss. I agree that the two versions for Japan are weird. Maybe they'll have different libraries, and they're trying to get people to double dip, since the PC Engine was a lot more successful in Japan than the TG-16 was in the US?

This is definitely the most tempted I've ever been to pick up one of these mini systems. While I have a moderate number of PCE games, I can count the number of US releases I have on my fingers. And with the prices of Turbo stuff these days, hell no to buying the originals. Plus, I just have a soft spot for NEC systems in general, and considering Konami has done little but piss on Hudson's grave since acquiring them, I'm glad to see Konami showing some respect for Hudson's legacy for once.

InsaneDavid
06-11-2019, 11:10 PM
If the emulation is solid.... Day One for me - and depending on any hardware (bundled controller type) / game lineup differences, I may buy more than one.

I haven't been interested in any of the other mini systems, I have a couple PC Engines and a PC Everdrive / Turbo Everdrive, and sure this is just another emulation box - but it'll happily flow some money to Konami in support of their classic Hudson IPs. I also love the idea of an officially licensed PC Engine that is even smaller than an original PC Engine.

AdamAnt316
06-11-2019, 11:39 PM
Yeah, I'll probably be getting one of these as well. TG-16 stuff seems to be far, far rarer than anything Nintendo or Sega ever made. I've been attending the MIT Swapfest (http://w1mx.mit.edu/flea-at-mit/) nearly every month it's open for well over a decade now, and while I've seen loads of NES/SNES/Master System/Genesis stuff, the amount of TurboGrafx *anything* I've spotted can be counted on a single monkey's paw. Not sure if it's because not much TG-16 stuff was sold in this region, or if it's just plain rare in general everywhere. Will definitely be watching for reviews.
-Adam

Greg2600
06-12-2019, 12:12 AM
Konami owns most of the library now, or could license the rest of the big ones. I have a feeling there will be anger as the NA release probably won't have many of the Japanese favorites that were never released here.

Aussie2B
06-12-2019, 08:24 AM
I'd be perfectly happy even if they just stuck to US releases for the TG-16 model. I mean, there are so many US releases that are good but also crazy expensive like Dynastic Hero, Magical Chase, Neutopia II, etc. they could include, giving people an opportunity to acquire them in a legal way without breaking the bank (especially now that Wii VC is gone, since a lot of good stuff had been available via that).

gbpxl
06-12-2019, 08:00 PM
Good grief. Enough already

Aussie2B
06-12-2019, 09:28 PM
Good grief. Enough already

Why? People like these mini systems, and nobody is forcing you to buy them. The more of them, the merrier.

gbpxl
06-12-2019, 09:31 PM
Clutter

Greg2600
06-12-2019, 11:20 PM
Clutter = Collecting

DUH :evil:

Aussie2B
06-12-2019, 11:26 PM
Clutter

Are you describing mini systems or your own posts in this topic?

gbpxl
06-12-2019, 11:47 PM
Are you describing mini systems or your own posts in this topic?

Both.

Tron 2.0
06-13-2019, 12:45 AM
Both.
Well aren't you the grumpy one :p For myself i have no problem with konami releasing a TG16 mini the console itself was very underrated for it's time.I see this,mini TG16 allowing more people to play it officially.Beside the fact i was a early adopter of the console right after it's release.The damn thing was very niche and you were in the minority if you owned a TG16.If any thing at all konami better make sure the emulation is done right if i were them id let M2 handle it.

InsaneDavid
06-13-2019, 02:27 AM
Both.

Next Generation Sizz.

Steve W
06-13-2019, 02:40 AM
I hope they announce some other games soon. I have most of the ones they've mentioned. I don't have a large Turbo library but I at least have a lot of the well-regarded ones.

I'm shocked they aren't putting Bonk 1 through 3 on it right off the bat. You'd think that the console's unofficial mascot would be the first thing announced. That's like making a Sega Genesis mini console without a Sonic game on it.

mailman187666
06-13-2019, 08:14 AM
Yeah, I'll probably be getting one of these as well. TG-16 stuff seems to be far, far rarer than anything Nintendo or Sega ever made. I've been attending the MIT Swapfest (http://w1mx.mit.edu/flea-at-mit/) nearly every month it's open for well over a decade now, and while I've seen loads of NES/SNES/Master System/Genesis stuff, the amount of TurboGrafx *anything* I've spotted can be counted on a single monkey's paw. Not sure if it's because not much TG-16 stuff was sold in this region, or if it's just plain rare in general everywhere. Will definitely be watching for reviews.
-Adam

No way, I feel like I've met you somehwere...Hudson, NH between the market basket and walmart? Gave you a coin when I bought a TG-16 game from you?

YoshiM
06-13-2019, 09:29 AM
Wow...it's like my teenage years are returning in regards to gaming. NES and SNES mini, Genesis Mini now a TG-16 mini. I'm down with this. If I can get the same gaming feel with these minis as opposed to having the "real deal", I'll be a happy man. I can then revert my hacked NES Mini to just playing NES and Famicom games and take off the TG-16 stuff.

Bratwurst
06-13-2019, 09:58 AM
The gray Coregrafx seems to be intended for the European market, which perhaps is a nod to the import scene in France during the 90s where the PC Engine didn't go unnoticed. Yes, it really doesn't make much sense, I know there was a PAL TurboGrafx. It's arguable that it was still lesser known than its Japanese counterpart in PAL territories, and would have saved on tooling another plastic injection mold.

I want that mini TG16, which is kind of funny because the lilliputian NES, SNES, PS1 (lol) and Genesis iterations didn't grab me at all and I see them for what they are, cheap lil' rom boxes. Nonetheless the TurboGrafx oozes cool like no other game system in my mind. With the inclusion of CD-ROM games as an option and Konami as the IP holder it seems almost certain we're going to see Rondo of Blood on it. Worst case scenario the thing will be jailbroken or hacked or however you want to phrase it to enable customization.

Aussie2B
06-13-2019, 11:35 AM
Rondo was already announced for the Japanese version, so I don't know if that's indication that the US version won't have it. Although Bonk was also announced for the Japanese version, and I'd be damn surprised if they didn't include at least the first Bonk on the US model.

Greg2600
06-13-2019, 07:35 PM
The gray Coregrafx seems to be intended for the European market, which perhaps is a nod to the import scene in France during the 90s where the PC Engine didn't go unnoticed. Yes, it really doesn't make much sense, I know there was a PAL TurboGrafx. It's arguable that it was still lesser known than its Japanese counterpart in PAL territories, and would have saved on tooling another plastic injection mold.

I want that mini TG16, which is kind of funny because the lilliputian NES, SNES, PS1 (lol) and Genesis iterations didn't grab me at all and I see them for what they are, cheap lil' rom boxes. Nonetheless the TurboGrafx oozes cool like no other game system in my mind. With the inclusion of CD-ROM games as an option and Konami as the IP holder it seems almost certain we're going to see Rondo of Blood on it. Worst case scenario the thing will be jailbroken or hacked or however you want to phrase it to enable customization.

Well, I have several PCE/TG systems, the CORE is my favorite. It's just so small and has a great color scheme.

Bratwurst
06-13-2019, 08:20 PM
I have two TG16s, a Core and a ton of accessories which render the point of getting a miniature system moot, but I digress. We all have things we don't need and occasionally desire more still.

Per the remarks that the TurboGrafx isn't well known and lacking an audience to market to, I disagree to an extent. It was heavily advertised in television and print which I saw a good deal of as a kid, the barrier was distribution and ultimately, availability for most people. We're also hitting a point in bygone video game nostalgia where the mouth breathing plebs are hungry for the exotic and novel, which could explain why Atari Jaguars are commanding $200+ and such now.

AdamAnt316
06-14-2019, 01:35 PM
No way, I feel like I've met you somehwere...Hudson, NH between the market basket and walmart? Gave you a coin when I bought a TG-16 game from you?

it's possible you've seen me around there or the swapmeets in the area, since I attend many of them. I generally visit that Goodwill once or twice a week, along with the nearby Savers. However, I've never owned any TG-16 games to sell, so it was someone else.
-Adam

AdamAnt316
07-12-2019, 06:29 PM
The release date and games list have been announced (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/turbografx-16-mini-release-date-game-library-annou/1100-6468394/). It will be released on March 19, 2020, missing the Christmas season oddly enough. The US price will apparently be $100. Both the US and Japanese releases will be getting the same list of games, apparently, meaning that the US TG-16 Mini will include Japanese PC Engine games, and vice-versa. Here's the list:

TG-16 Games:


Air Zonk
Alien Crush
Blazing Lazers
Bomberman ‘93
Bonk’s Revenge
Cadash
Chew-Man-Fu
Dungeon Explorer
J.J. & Jeff
Lords Of Thunder
Military Madness (Nectaris)
Moto Roader
Neutopia
Neutopia II
New Adventure Island
Ninjaspirit
Parasol Stars
Power Golf
Psychosis
R-Type
Soldier Blade
Space Harrier
Victory Run
Ys Book I&II


PC-Engine Games


Akumajō Dracula X Chi No Rondo (Castlevania: Rondo Of Blood)
Aldynes
Appare! Gateball
Bomberman ‘94
Bomberman Panic Bomber
Chō Aniki
Daimakaimura (Ghouls ‘N’ Ghosts)
Dungeon Explorer
Fantasy Zone
Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire
Gradius (Nemesis)
Gradius II – Gofer No Yabō (Nemesis II)
Jaseiken Necromancer
Nectaris (Military Madness)
Neutopia
Neutopia II
Ninja Ryūkenden (Ninja Gaiden)
PC-Genjin (Bonk)
Salamander
Snatcher
Star Parodier (Fantasy Star Soldier)
Super Darius
Super Momotarō Dentetsu II
Super Star Soldier
The Kung Fu (China Warrior)
Ys I&II


So 24 TG-16 games and 26 PC Engine games, for a total of 50. More info here (https://kotaku.com/turbografx-16-mini-launches-in-march-with-50-ish-games-1836300247).

InsaneDavid
07-12-2019, 07:21 PM
This is the strangest way to release a multi-region retrogames package. It's like - "Well, this console did polar opposite business between the Japan and the USA, so we're going to have a different mix of games to support the history in each region - BUUUUUT... we're just going to include both mixes on every system, even if the titles overlap between regions, even if a handful of the games are text heavy Japanese RPGs."

Honestly, I kind of love the game reveal trailers, as they promote each game AS A GAME and not just another name / number on a list. Most of these games you'd be stoked to come across separately at a flea market or game store.

TurboGrafx-16 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWbNzvb_mv8

PC Engine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ng6Aki9wfI

I've also seen some of the UI on a demo unit on Twitter and it's pretty awesome with a virtual HuCARD that slides up into a rendering of the system at the top of the screen when a game is selected.

EDIT: Found that here - https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/kikaku/1195989.html

Still.... with the included lineup I'm surprised that Final Soldier, Dungeon Explorer II, and Devil's Crush aren't on there.

Kid Fenris
07-13-2019, 12:01 PM
The absence of Spriggan is bizarre and disappointing. Nice of them to include almost all of the Japanese version's titles, though.


I have two TG16s, a Core and a ton of accessories which render the point of getting a miniature system moot, but I digress. We all have things we don't need and occasionally desire more still.

Per the remarks that the TurboGrafx isn't well known and lacking an audience to market to, I disagree to an extent. It was heavily advertised in television and print which I saw a good deal of as a kid, the barrier was distribution and ultimately, availability for most people. We're also hitting a point in bygone video game nostalgia where the mouth breathing plebs are hungry for the exotic and novel, which could explain why Atari Jaguars are commanding $200+ and such now.

Tut Tut, Mr. Bratwurst. So quick to disparage the all-consuming masses but so eager to lap at the trough when your choice flavor of slurry oozes forth.

Aussie2B
07-13-2019, 12:05 PM
Yeah, it makes sense to offer Japanese releases when the Western library was a little lacking, but when some are text-heavy, they may as well not even be there. It seems like they took the language barrier into account for Japanese players, as every text-heavy English release seems to also be available in Japanese, but it doesn't work the other way around. What the heck is the average Westerner going to do with Japanese Snatcher? It's stranger yet because only the Japanese release is getting Tokimeki Memorial, which is replaced with Salamander for Westerners, so why wasn't Snatcher replaced with some other English-friendly Japanese release too?

The price is a bit on the high side too. If they actually localized all the Japanese releases, that would make it more than worth it, but as it stands, the price point adds insult to injury when Westerners have to fumble through text they can't read.

Bratwurst
07-13-2019, 10:41 PM
Tut Tut, Mr. Bratwurst. So quick to disparage the all-consuming masses but so eager to lap at the trough when your choice flavor of slurry oozes forth.

How much you spend on AES games this year? (it is more than what I have spent)

Kid Fenris
07-13-2019, 10:50 PM
How much you spend on AES games this year? (it is more than what I have spent)

Any given Neo Geo game is worth about a dozen TurboGrafx titles. Just add up the megs!

Nz17
07-16-2019, 07:33 AM
Cost: $100
Amazon link: https://amazon.com/TurboGrafx-16-mini-Electronic-Games/dp/B07QD9GQ9J/

I am interested in this mini console precisely because I am burnt out on all of the same-old same-old compilation releases from Atari, Nintendo, SEGA, AtGames, and friends. Yes, the games included with NES Classic / SNES Classic / PlayStation Mini / Atari Flashback / Genesis Mini are classics, but they have been re-released so many times for most of them that each new announcement of one is like, "Oh, another one? That's cool, but I already own those from the last P'N'P compilation or console compilation or Virtual Console downloads or PSN or the original carts / CD's."

So when a mini console shows up that's centered around either a computer or console that I didn't grow up with nor ever see in person but read about in the magazines back-in-the-day such that the computer or console seems like a myth or a legend to me, I am much more interested in getting one than something that I played at home or at a friend's house and probably still have the original games at my home. And as these games are "physical copies" by virtue of being enshrined in a physical console instead of being mere digital downloads, this not only has a higher resale value (though I rarely resell things that I buy), but it is also personally more valuable to me.

That's why I am more interested in the mini consoles designed around C64 games or Intellivision games or in this case, TurboGrafx-16 games, than I am in Atari or Nintendo or SEGA games. I guess that's part of what makes me unique: most people seem to want to replay what they played in their youth, but I kept those games and I want to play things that I haven't played before. Yes, there are games that I return to or replay, but most of my play time is spent on playing new-to-me old games and new games instead of replaying something for the nth time.

But if there were Atari Lynx, Jaguar, Nintendo Virtual Boy, Nintendo Arcade, SEGA Game Gear, Dreamcast, Saturn, or Vectrex minis or the like, those I would be very interested in buying.

gbpxl
07-16-2019, 09:29 AM
Sega is the biggest offender when it comes to rereleasing titles. It started on the Genesis with their Sonic multicart release, then on saturn with Sega Ages, Sonic Jam, then Sega Smashpack, Sonic Anniversary Collection, the crappy 3rd party consoles, the Amazon thing, Sega Genesis Collection, now the Genesis mini.

Aussie2B
07-16-2019, 10:23 AM
I actually like that some classics are re-released frequently because it keeps them accessible and curbs the climbing of secondhand market prices of physical copies. For example, imagine how much more expensive Genesis carts of the first two Shining Force games would be if they weren't available a number of different ways in recent years. But I do wish for more diversity in what's being re-released.

Greg2600
07-16-2019, 12:13 PM
$100 is too steep, for a console with zero licensing fees just about. Will wait for the inevitable sale.

Nz17
07-16-2019, 09:49 PM
Nintendo's been re-releasing its classics for a long time too. On SNES there were makeovers like Super Mario All-Stars and multi-carts like Super Mario All-Stars plus Super Mario World. Then again, Nintendo didn't release games on GameTap while SEGA did release its games on GameTap in addition to the other aforementioned platforms.

InsaneDavid
07-17-2019, 12:41 AM
In an era of constantly re-purchasing $1000+ smartphones that literally do the same crap that the model from six months previous did, a hundred bucks for a standalone licensed piece of gaming hardware with included games that have astronomical prices in their original physical form is nothing to whine about.

It's a hundred bucks..... in eight months. $12.50 a month. How much do you pay for your Internet service, streaming options, etc. every month?

Tron 2.0
07-17-2019, 01:55 AM
It's price is rather steep for a plug'n'play beside it lacking namco titles.Also,fans all ready have brought it up lacking legendary axe 1&2 but those games are by victor so i assume a license issue.Beside that fact it's not known who will be handling the emulation.Still if it ends up being open to hacks for adding more games then it's selection isn't a big deal to me.

Steve W
07-17-2019, 03:17 PM
So... why is Power Golf on this thing? I can't imagine why they're wasting space on it with a game that will be the least played on the machine. There are so many other games worthy to take its place.

Aussie2B
07-17-2019, 03:47 PM
Probably just for genre variety. I'm guessing they figured they had to represent the sports genre at least a little.

bb_hood
07-17-2019, 04:27 PM
So... why is Power Golf on this thing? I can't imagine why they're wasting space on it with a game that will be the least played on the machine. There are so many other games worthy to take its place.

Prolly just to boost the game count. You could easily fit all the turbo/pc engine hu card games on that thing easy

Greg2600
08-09-2019, 09:52 PM
https://www.polygon.com/2019/8/8/20791763/turbografx-16-mini-games-list-pc-engine-konami

Here’s the list of new additions coming to the TurboGrafx-16 mini (and PC Engine mini for Japan):

Seirei Senshi Spriggan (PC Engine)
Spriggan Mark 2 (PC Engine)
Dragon Spirit (PC Engine)
Galaga ’88 (PC Engine)
The Genji and the Heike Clans (PC Engine)
The Legend of Valkyrie (PC Engine)
Splatterhouse (TurboGrafx-16)

Here’s the full English-language lineup of TurboGrafx-16 games included on all versions of the system (TurboGrafx-16 mini in North America, PC Engine mini in Japan, and Core Grafx mini in Europe), with newly announced titles in bold:

Air Zonk
Alien Crush
Blazing Lazers
Bomberman ‘93
Bonk’s Revenge
Cadash
Chew-Man-Fu
Dungeon Explorer
J.J. & Jeff
Lords Of Thunder
Military Madness
Moto Roader
Neutopia
Neutopia II
New Adventure Island
Ninja Spirit
Parasol Stars
Power Golf
Psychosis
R-Type
Soldier Blade
Space Harrier
Splatterhouse
Victory Run
Ys Book I&II

And the remaining 32-game, Japanese-language lineup of PC Engine games coming to Konami’s retro console:

Akumajō Dracula X Chi No Rondo
Aldynes
Appare! Gateball
Bomberman ’94
Bomberman Panic Bomber
Chō Aniki
Daimakaimura
Dragon Spirit
Dungeon Explorer
Fantasy Zone
Galaga ’88
Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire
Gradius
Gradius II – Gofer No Yabō –
Jaseiken Necromancer
Nectaris
Neutopia
Neutopia II
Ninja Ryūkenden
PC Genjin
Salamander
Seirei Senshi Spriggan
Snatcher
Spriggan Mark 2
Star Parodier
Super Darius
Super Momotarō Dentetsu II
Super Star Soldier
The Genji and the Heike Clans
The Kung Fu
The Legend of Valkyrie
Ys I・II

YoshiM
08-09-2019, 10:04 PM
Y'know, I him and haw debating these upcoming mini consoles from Konami and Sega. "Will I play them?" as TV access is very limited. With these games and others now sealed...I will FIND the time.

Tron 2.0
08-10-2019, 03:25 AM
Rethinking a maybe to buy since it has been confirmed that M2 is doing the emulation.

Tron 2.0
03-07-2020, 12:18 AM
Well the coronavirus strikes again TG16 mini release has been delayed.
https://www.cnet.com/news/turbografx-16-mini-delayed-due-to-coronavirus/

Niku-Sama
03-07-2020, 04:41 AM
wimps

gbpxl
03-07-2020, 10:07 AM
Here's my question: Do these mini consoles decrease or increase prices of CIB titles? I feel like theyd increase because of more visibility and thus making them more sought after. I heard the Virtual Console was part of why retro game prices exploded

Aussie2B
03-07-2020, 11:47 AM
There have been some cases where digital re-releases have produced a clear decrease in the price of older physical releases, but at this point, I think there are too many factors to draw conclusions. These mini consoles often contain games that have already been released in many forms, such as compilations, remakes, digital releases on VC, PSN, Steam, etc. Then there are modern games that stoke the fires of nostalgia like Smash Bros. and YouTube "celebrities" who hype up various retro games. If a retro game does increase in value, it's very hard to pinpoint a specific reason as to why. Most price increases can still be attributed to the general trend of systems/games shifting from modern to being viewed as passe and obsolete to then being viewed as retro and cool when they hit a certain age as the childhood players of those games also hit an age of greater disposable income and an interest in recapturing childhood.

Ryudo
03-10-2020, 04:53 PM
Konami is a virus.

AdamAnt316
03-31-2020, 09:54 AM
Wikipedia claims that the PC Engine mini did get released in Japan on March 19th:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurboGrafx-16_Mini

However, the US is going to have to wait until December 31st, supposedly:
https://www.amazon.com/TurboGrafx-16-mini-Electronic-Games/dp/B07QD9GQ9J

Aussie2B
03-31-2020, 11:39 AM
Yeah, the PC Engine version is indeed out. I've seen plenty of Westerners who imported playing it. I guess that version was manufactured earlier than the others, so they were able to get it done before coronavirus started impacting everything.

YoshiM
03-31-2020, 02:18 PM
Konami is a virus.
Then after playing a Konami game, wash your hands in an upward motion twice followed by a downward motion twice. Then focus on rinsing the left hand thoroughly, followed by the right, then back to the left and then back to the right. Examine their backs then Amen! You can start your next activity....


(....it's a stretch....I went there)

Tron 2.0
04-18-2020, 01:49 AM
Rather annoyed,konami went ahead and put stock into getting it's release out in japan first.Yeah sure you can buy one from amazon jpn that way but it's to late for me anyway.I had preorder one through amazon u.s and used a gift card as a down payment.So i gotta wait at this point but i still have a tg16/pce collection of games that i can play still.If any thing i was just buying one for the novelty sake so i can wait on getting a mini.

Also MLIG had there review put up a few weeks ago and as it turns out it's not perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eo2_UY1L3w

ArcadePerfect
04-19-2020, 02:52 PM
Any other early reviews? I already repurchased the Bonk games on the Wii U's virtual console a few years ago so I'm curious how it compares to that. Does the system include an option to stretch the visuals to 16 by 9, widescreen?

Greg2600
04-19-2020, 05:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq3jeg4njDQ

gbpxl
04-19-2020, 05:46 PM
it seems like people want these mini consoles just to have them more than anything else

Tron 2.0
04-20-2020, 02:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq3jeg4njDQ
That review made me cringe it's a joke compare to mlig look at it.

Greg2600
04-20-2020, 01:51 PM
That review made me cringe it's a joke compare to mlig look at it.

No argument here, ha ha. I personally wind up modding these things anyway, so the only limitations I dislike are hardware.

Tron 2.0
05-15-2020, 03:27 AM
Update it's place holder date has changed for may 22th this year instead of next year.
https://www.amazon.com/TurboGrafx-16-mini-Electronic-Games/dp/B07QD9GQ9J

I all most did consider buying one from amazon jpn but i decided against it.Since that would have meant spending more money to import it and shipping to.Beside the fact japan post has stop shipping internationally temporary,since now it's just being handle by DHL.Anyways if this date holds then i'm fine with it's u.s release for may.

gbpxl
05-16-2020, 02:12 PM
the mini console makes me want to play my TG16 but the only games I have are Power Golf and Keith Courage. all the good games on the system are expensive lol

Aussie2B
05-16-2020, 02:18 PM
Best way to play the real deal is to get a PC Engine. The system wasn't successful enough in the US for much of anything to be plentiful enough to stay cheap. The Japanese releases are way cheaper, and in most cases, language isn't a barrier. Most of the text-heavy games never got a US release to begin with.

jb143
05-16-2020, 11:50 PM
the mini console makes me want to play my TG16 but the only games I have are Power Golf and Keith Courage. all the good games on the system are expensive lol

Same here. I actually did hook mine up today and played Bonk's Revenge, which is about the only game I have worth playing.

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but I hear there also several other "secret" games that can be unlocked by using certain button presses when starting the system, games, etc...

Tron 2.0
05-17-2020, 05:04 AM
the mini console makes me want to play my TG16 but the only games I have are Power Golf and Keith Courage. all the good games on the system are expensive lol
Either mod the system and have a region switch put in or import a pce instead.Mostly cause,japanese release's for some games can be much cheaper in price.The other option buy a turbo everdrive flash cart since that will let you play most of the hucard titles.I have a decent size collection of my hucards myself "but i still use a everdrive to play the more expensive titles" or for games that have a fan translation.

Tron 2.0
06-05-2020, 03:36 AM
Bump anyone else get a TG16 mini ? I got mine last month and i have been enjoying it and it's ui is simple enough to use.Also i agree with most reviewers say about the input lag and shimmer,some games have it while others do not.It doesn't make most unplayable but it's there and can be kind of annoying.I found the worst input lag for lords of thunder good luck there trying to 1cc it.All in all M2 came close enough in the emulation.My most gripe is snatcher being only in japanese it's to bad konami couldn't have hack it to included the sega-cd translation.I've also heard "the hacks are being worked on" so maybe that can improve the emulation even more.If you're looking for a official way to play TG16/PCE without breaking the bank then the TG16 mini is the way to go.So far i'm satisfy with my purchase plus it gives me another way to play it on a hdtv.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyZHjUkr21M

AdamAnt316
06-11-2020, 10:47 PM
I'd like to get an example of the TG-16 Mini, but they appear to be sold out on Amazon, which states that it is "Available From These Sellers", who apparently have "9 New from $197.50". :shameful: Hopefully, they won't be as hard to find from non-scalpers as the NES/SNES Mini was for a long time..........
-Adam

Greg2600
06-11-2020, 11:43 PM
I'd like to get an example of the TG-16 Mini, but they appear to be sold out on Amazon, which states that it is "Available From These Sellers", who apparently have "9 New from $197.50". :shameful: Hopefully, they won't be as hard to find from non-scalpers as the NES/SNES Mini was for a long time..........
-Adam

They'll be next to impossible if Konami doesn't replenish. I still never got confirmation that they were only being sold via Amazon.

AdamAnt316
06-12-2020, 12:18 AM
They'll be next to impossible if Konami doesn't replenish. I still never got confirmation that they were only being sold via Amazon.
Hopefully, the delay is because they're working on improving QC; some of the reviews speak of quality issues, including someone who had three minis (two TG16s, one PCE) end up 'bricked' due possibly to being over-volted by non-OEM USB power supplies. Doesn't help that you don't get a power supply with the unit unless you spring for the 'deluxe' bundle, which kicks the price to $119.99, and is entirely unavailable. :shameful: And as for availability, I vastly prefer buying stuff in person, and this whole virus thing has made doing that rather difficult, as the GameStop chain would surely attest. :roll:
-Adam

Tron 2.0
06-12-2020, 01:35 AM
I'd like to get an example of the TG-16 Mini, but they appear to be sold out on Amazon, which states that it is "Available From These Sellers", who apparently have "9 New from $197.50". :shameful: Hopefully, they won't be as hard to find from non-scalpers as the NES/SNES Mini was for a long time..........
-Adam
Most that i can suggest is amazon jpn if they have any still unless,konami is gonna do another run for the u.s.Though,when i got mine i just use the ac adapter from the genesis mini to power it and it ran fine.Later on the official ac adapter that i preorder with the tg16 mini came in just a few days ago.I'm using that now but really that should have been included with the system to begin with given it's price in total.

Tron 2.0
06-12-2020, 01:57 AM
They'll be next to impossible if Konami doesn't replenish. I still never got confirmation that they were only being sold via Amazon.
Don't know what to tell ya but when konami announced the tg16 mini they did stated only being sold through amazon.Heck most news outlets confirm it as well.

Aussie2B
06-12-2020, 10:53 AM
If the pandemic screwed up fulfilling the initial orders, then I wouldn't be surprised if the print run was smaller than what Konami had wanted, and I also wouldn't be surprised if it's delayed restocking too.

Greg2600
06-12-2020, 02:42 PM
Hopefully, the delay is because they're working on improving QC; some of the reviews speak of quality issues, including someone who had three minis (two TG16s, one PCE) end up 'bricked' due possibly to being over-volted by non-OEM USB power supplies. Doesn't help that you don't get a power supply with the unit unless you spring for the 'deluxe' bundle, which kicks the price to $119.99, and is entirely unavailable. :shameful: And as for availability, I vastly prefer buying stuff in person, and this whole virus thing has made doing that rather difficult, as the GameStop chain would surely attest. :roll:
-Adam

Yes I heard about the bricking! I don't think the European Core Grafx has been shipped yet either.

Tron 2.0
06-14-2020, 06:03 AM
Yes I heard about the bricking! I don't think the European Core Grafx has been shipped yet either.
European,Coregrafx mini has been released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbKxnfjOxI4

Emperor Megas
06-14-2020, 11:31 AM
I got a notification 2 days ago that my TurboGrafx Mini shipped from Amazon. I suppose it was part of the second batch.

AdamAnt316
06-15-2020, 03:34 AM
I got a notification 2 days ago that my TurboGrafx Mini shipped from Amazon. I suppose it was part of the second batch.
It's possible. I checked Amazon a few minutes ago, and they'd gotten more in stock; miraculously, one was still available! :D I added it in my cart, placed the order, and it seemed to go through. Now the (hopefully short) waiting game begins..........
-Adam

Tron 2.0
06-17-2020, 03:47 AM
It's possible. I checked Amazon a few minutes ago, and they'd gotten more in stock; miraculously, one was still available! :D I added it in my cart, placed the order, and it seemed to go through. Now the (hopefully short) waiting game begins..........
-Adam
When you get it make you sure have the appropriate usb power supply.

AdamAnt316
06-17-2020, 04:48 PM
When you get it make you sure have the appropriate usb power supply.

Any idea what counts as "appropriate" for these things? We have several USB power supplies around here, including the ones which came with my NES, SNES and Sega Genesis Minis. I also bought a 'MobileSense' (or something like that) 2.4A USB supply, which the seller claims to have regulated output; does the extra 0.3 (0.4?) amps really matter that much? Or is it too little current capability which might be 'bricking' these things? I once accidentally powered a Retro-Duo with a 750mA power supply instead of the intended 2A (IIRC) brick, and it won't power up anymore. Rather odd that something like this mini would have such stringent power requirements, especially since they don't bother to include a wall-wart unless you pay extra.......... :shameful:
-Adam