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Edmond Dantes
12-18-2019, 01:09 AM
Since I've had this thing for four months now I figured I'd talk about it, especially as this is my first foray into owning a modern gaming console since the PS2 days.

So....

1. Advice: While I do think everyone should get a MicroSD card for additional storage... wait until you've used up the internal storage first. Because once you put it in the Switch defaults to using it, and you can't force it to use the internal storage first. This even includes if you download DLC for games that are already on your internal storage, and you don't want the data for one game to be split between two storage mediums.

On that note.... get a brand-new card, not a used or refurbished one. I kept having issues with mine "crashing" and deleting all the data, causing me to have to re-download stuff, and I got sick of it.

EDIT: fluid_matrix's post below also brought to my attention that fake MicroSD's were a thing, so I recommend following his advice as well. The one I got might've been a fake and thus that would explain the issues I had.

2. Lots of people say that the Switch convinced them to embrace having a digital-only library. I.... don't entirely concur but I do like having a mix of download games alongside games on cartridge, since if I'm bored of the cart game I can switch over to something else.

3. That reminds me.... okay, sometimes my Switch has issues connecting wirelessly, but I've noticed the times it acts up the most tend to be when I've got the joycons off, so I think the bluetooth signal is interfering with the wireless internet somehow. When they're on the system it tends to start working.

4. Twister Road is more addictive than it has any right to be, especially considering what a simple premise it is (basically, its an endless runner, last-as-long-as-possible game).

5. I wound up finding this cheap game called Kitten Squad, which plays like.... I guess like Smash TV but with talkie parts? One thing I didn't notice before buying tho... its co-produced by PETA, so of course all the missions and "real-world facts" are intent on selling you the horros of how animals are treated in the real world. It still seems to be a decent game if you don't mind it having a clear agenda.

6. So I actually bought Minecraft.... and wound up.... its weird, whenever I start a new game, Minecraft is generally captivating, however as soon as I hit iron the game starts to lose steam for me. I wrote a longer document -> here (https://docs.google.com/document/d/17z6T9nPHu0WB_apVai-lYcwcFZ_iPkFuvZAYPoh6N38/edit?usp=sharing) <-, but the short version is it commits a common sin of sandbox.... it succeeds at allowing you to do whatever by just being really, really shallow to the point where your decisions don't really carry any weight or meaning.

Needless to say, Dragon Quest Builders 2 is the better game despite the plot railroad.

7. Speaking of Dragon Quest, I was at Gamestop earlier today and saw an announcement that the player character from Dragon Quest VIII (mind if I insist on calling him Bippydoo?) is now a DLC fighter in Smash Bros Ultimate... along with Terry frickin' Bogard.

I hope I get a lot of Christmas money...

That's all for now. What have ya'lls experiences with the Switch been, if you had any?

fluid_matrix
12-18-2019, 03:28 AM
To add to your #1... when you do decide to buy a MicroSD card, buy one from a reputable source. There are many fakes floating around that promise you tons of space for a fraction of the price. As the saying goes, if it's too good to be true, it probably is. Also, I recommend running your new flash memory thru FakeFlashTest (https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/fakeflashtest.html) to ensure the card is authentic.


What have ya'lls experiences with the Switch been, if you had any?
Don't own one. And at this point in time, have no intentions of getting one. My most current Nintendo console is the OG Wii.

Edmond Dantes
12-18-2019, 05:15 AM
Thanks for bringing the issue of fakes to my attention, I didn't even know fake MicroSDs were a thing... that might explain why the one I got was so iffy...

I just ordered a second one from Amazon (not a marketplace seller, Amazon themselves) so hopefully my second will be much more reliable.

.....

BTW, another experience: Switch was my first go-around with wireless controllers. Not just the Joy-Cons but also a thing by 8BitDo called the SN30 Pro Plus.... this thing (https://www.amazon.com/8Bitdo-Sn30-Bluetooth-Gamepad-Classic-mac/dp/B07TDTXHJP/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=1572964162&sr=1-3) .... and.... its honestly one of the best controllers I've ever used. I'm thinking of getting the adapters that let it work on NES and SNES to get more out of it (its too bad there doesn't seem to be an equivalent adapter for the PS2....)

Tupin
12-18-2019, 03:07 PM
Buy the Shin'en Multimedia game The Touryst. The company that made it is great at squeezing all of the power they can out of the Switch, plus the game itself is fun and charming. Only about 7 or 8 hours long but easily one of my picks for Game of the Year:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BpyBABW9Ms

They also have Fast RMX on Switch which is the closest we will ever get to an F-Zero on the platform.

Edmond Dantes
12-22-2019, 02:31 AM
Glad you mentioned Fast RMX because I was actually wondering if there were any good racing games on the Switch that weren't Team Sonic Racing or Mario Kart 8.

There's so many games (on the eShop especially) that its hard to investigate them all. But mainly right now I feel like my library needs:

-A racing game (the afformentioned titles might end up filling this void)
-a fighting game (dozens of choices including Neo-Geo classics, but I'll likely end up with both Smash Bros Ultimate and DB FighterZ)
-some sort of Tetris-esque or Puyo Puyo-esque puzzle game (likely not Tetris 99 since that requires internet)
-something turn-based and strategic
-a golf game, preferably one similar to either Golf It or Tower Unite Golf (look those up on Youtube). It's seeming like 3D Minigolf or Infinite Minigolf are my best bets here.

Tupin
12-22-2019, 02:11 PM
Racing: Fast RMX
Fighting: Smash Bros Ultimate
Puzzle: Puyo Puyo Tetris
Turn-based/strategy: Mario and Rabbids: Kingdom Battle, Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Pokemon Sword and Shield
Golf: Golf Story

Golf Story is legitimately one of the best games on the Switch, and it is getting a sequel next year. It's made by an indie developer with a lot of talent. I've got to add that though its golfing mechanics are sound, it has a lot of traits of an RPG in it too and doesn't necessarily take itself seriously.

Did you pick up The Touryst?

Tron 2.0
12-23-2019, 12:21 AM
If you haven't bought it all ready id highly suggest,blaster master zero for switch.That was my first digital buy for the system back in 2017 and inti creates did right by that remake also there is a sequel as well.

gbpxl
12-23-2019, 07:13 PM
If I had a Switch these are the games I would want

Cuphead
The Mummy Demastered

Edmond Dantes
12-28-2019, 03:15 AM
Did you pick up The Touryst?

Not yet. I did pick up the following (mostly due to insane sales):

Mega Man Legacy Collection 2 and X Collection 2 (my focus was on the ones with games I didn't already own)
Mega Man 11
Dragon Ball FighterZ (insane sale, it was priced down to $14.99 from its normal $40 or so). I don't have any of the DLC just yet.

Also god damn this is the console for classic arcade games... Super Burger Time, Super Real Darwin (weirdest title for a shmup I've seen yet), and Outrun are all there, those are just the ones I bought. I found a golf game called Crazy Zen MiniGolf which is kinda similar to the games I've seen Markiplier and Mangaminx play on their channels but lacking some of their polish.

I also went ahead and bought the Switch port of Dragon Quest 1.... and while I see the aesthetic problems, honestly it seems pretty good. Somehow that it feels like I'm playing a flash game works given that DQ is supposed to be primitive. I also dig the new translation which fleshes everything out. And man I swear the EXP and gold payouts are bigger than even the Gameboy Color one.

Mostly right now I'm budgeting/saving for more expensive purchases like Smash Bros Ultimate.

Az
12-29-2019, 01:06 AM
I can't stress enough the importance of buying a Flip Grip if you're into Switch classic gaming and you play in handheld mode.

Being able to play all these classic vertical arcade games in their proper aspect ratio is awesome, and playing pinball games where you can actually see the table makes a world of difference.

Edmond Dantes
12-31-2019, 10:57 AM
I shall look into the Flip Grip. One thing I would like too is a device which would allow me to play with a controller (or even that controller-like holster for the joycons) but still clamped like onto the bottom of the console.

Also, found one slight issue with Dragon Quest's switch port.... okay, one reason I like that game is how much it depends on you being able to do detective work. For example one item you need is in a place you might visit but you have to search a specific unremarkable square, and there's someone in the game who tells you which square it is.

In the Switch port.... the spot in question is sparkling. Which makes the guy who tells you where to search completely pointless and removes part of the "detective" element. Like, just what the hell, Squeenix?

Az
12-31-2019, 10:06 PM
One thing I would like too is a device which would allow me to play with a controller

I don't know if this would be your thing, but the Hori Split Pad Pro is about as close as you can get to a "normal" controller (with a decent d-pad) when in handheld mode.

Definitely worth the steep price for me, as the majority of my Switch gaming is 2D stuff that requires a decent d-pad. It also makes it a hell of a lot more comfortable to hold.

Ryudo
12-31-2019, 11:07 PM
Flip Grip is great and so is the split pad pro.

Edmond Dantes
01-06-2020, 04:01 AM
Another first, created a Japanese eshop account for an import download.

Was shockingly easy.

As for what I bought, well I found out the Japanese version of the Mega Man X Collections have content that the US download does not, due to licensing issues (namely, any game with an FMV intro or ending originally used a Jpop song. These are on the Japanese release but the US release will always use the US replacement music... even if you specifically tell it to play the Japanese version). To be honest if I had known this I would've bought the Japanese releases from the get-go instead of buying essentially the same game twice, but oh well.

Tron 2.0
01-06-2020, 12:47 PM
Another first, created a Japanese eshop account for an import download.

Was shockingly easy.

As for what I bought, well I found out the Japanese version of the Mega Man X Collections have content that the US download does not, due to licensing issues (namely, any game with an FMV intro or ending originally used a Jpop song. These are on the Japanese release but the US release will always use the US replacement music... even if you specifically tell it to play the Japanese version). To be honest if I had known this I would've bought the Japanese releases from the get-go instead of buying essentially the same game twice, but oh well.
Does the japanese MMX collection play in english or is it japanese still ? The only other difference i know of is the u.s version was split up between physical and digital where's japan got it on two cartridges.

IMJ
01-08-2020, 12:17 PM
As for what I bought, well I found out the Japanese version of the Mega Man X Collections have content that the US download does not, due to licensing issues (namely, any game with an FMV intro or ending originally used a Jpop song. These are on the Japanese release but the US release will always use the US replacement music... even if you specifically tell it to play the Japanese version). To be honest if I had known this I would've bought the Japanese releases from the get-go instead of buying essentially the same game twice, but oh well.

But can you tap your toe to the J music? ;) That's pretty cool though - I'm always in for Mega Man games of some kind.
It's been a long time since I followed a Nintendo product. Does the switch have the same digital library that the Wii had? I remember some pretty great retro titles for the Wii - you could even download the SNES Indiana Jones game for example. Can you do that on the Switch?

Aussie2B
01-08-2020, 12:35 PM
Nintendo eShops are unique to each platform. They have some games in common, but not everything. Unfortunately, there's a lot of WiiWare and Wii Virtual Console releases that haven't been released on anything since.

IMJ
01-08-2020, 12:43 PM
Nintendo eShops are unique to each platform. They have some games in common, but not everything. Unfortunately, there's a lot of WiiWare and Wii Virtual Console releases that haven't been released on anything since.

Ooookay, I see. I hate to say it, but I'd be most interested in a Wii then at this point primarily for the retro game access I remember it having. But even that's a deep dive investment because there are lots of ways to pick up those retro titles - from emulation to used game discs with 30 titles on them.

Aussie2B
01-08-2020, 03:20 PM
The Wii eShop was shut down, so there's no way to access its Virtual Console games unless you have a system with the games already purchased and installed or if you hack a Wii to put whatever you want on it.

Edmond Dantes
01-08-2020, 03:44 PM
Does the japanese MMX collection play in english or is it japanese still ? The only other difference i know of is the u.s version was split up between physical and digital where's japan got it on two cartridges.

It actually gives you the option of whether to play the US versions or the Japanese versions (its kinda subtle... pressing Y on the game selection screen changes edition). Also if your switch is set to English as the default language then the collection's menus will follow suit, tho you can also manually change them if you feel like.

I do have one disappointment: Apparently Rockman 8 is still missing its Jpop intro song even if you're playing the Japanese legacy collection. I was surprised to see the US intro (complete with it reading "Megaman 8")... so I can only guess there were licensing issues in Japan as well. Oh well, I guess I have another reason to pick up the J Saturn release.

For the X games though every one I've tested (X4 and X6 were the first I booted up) they do indeed have Jpop music and Japanese intros. I've heard that X5 might still have some English voice samples for things like when X is at critical health, but that may only be if you bought the US version. I'll test this later.

(Oh BTW, English X5 via the collection did some minor retranslating, namely it no longer uses the Guns n' Roses names for the Mavericks).


Ooookay, I see. I hate to say it, but I'd be most interested in a Wii then at this point primarily for the retro game access I remember it having. But even that's a deep dive investment because there are lots of ways to pick up those retro titles - from emulation to used game discs with 30 titles on them.

Actually, one reason I'm really loving the Switch is its a haven for retro gaming, including games I never saw get a (legal) port anywhere else... I know Splatterhouse was included with the remake but now I can just get it on a collection of old games. I also now have pretty much arcade-perfect Shinobi (not sure if accurate port ever existed before), Space Harrier (existed on Saturn), Outrun (existed on Saturn but this version has a ton more music options), and Samurai Shodown V SPECIAL (for a long time was a Neo-Geo cartridge exclusive).

Then there's games like Super Burger Time, which I didn't even know was a thing. And of course my beloved X-Multiply (I know there was a port on the Playstation, but... it sucked).

Seriously, look up "Nintendo Switch Sega Ages" (altho Shinobi and Space Harrier seem to be Japanese eShop exclusive) "Johnny Turbo's Arcade" (how the heck did the mascot of the TurboGrafx get associated with arcade games?) and "Arcade Archives." It's quite a list. Combined with that the Switch can be played as a portable unit, it seems to me the only way to do better is to run emulators on a laptop.

Tupin
01-08-2020, 09:40 PM
I don't know if it's up your alley but Animal Crossing: New Horizons comes out March 20 and will probably be the Switch's biggest game of the year barring BoTW 2 or Odyssey 2 coming out.

IMJ
01-08-2020, 09:50 PM
Oh geeze... Shinobi. I wish you hadn't said that. Now I'd love to find way to play the original Shinobi arcade game, and then that thought led to how much I would LOVE to play the original Ninja Gaiden arcade. -facepalms-

Edmond Dantes
01-14-2020, 12:40 AM
..... I'm so evil for mentioning this, but Ninja Gaiden arcade is also on the Switch....

EDIT: So I kinda want more recommends.

First off... is there any 3D game with high mountains in it? It's just, high places thrill me but every time there's a "mountain climbing" game, its always something like Celeste (where you never get a sense of height, since the game is a 2D side scroller and really more like a fast-paced platformer), or like Minecraft where the mountains are actually pathetically small. The only game I can think of that might help me out is Breath of the Wild. Basically something that really simulates being up in a high place. Especially if it also allows me to fall the entire distance.

Secondly are there any good JRPGs that AREN'T just ports of older games?

Tupin
01-14-2020, 04:12 PM
Octopath Traveller.

Tron 2.0
01-14-2020, 11:18 PM
By the way ED huge sale going on the e-shop right now and it ends on thursday.All ready bought myself the grandia hd collection :D

Edmond Dantes
01-21-2020, 05:52 AM
Bought myself a JRPG called Bonds of the Skies. Was looking, saw it, its description sounded interesting and it was cheap. I posted thoughts on it in the JRPG topic but to repeat: its fairly typical, but has a few charms--one is that the mechanics are easy to understand and straightforward, the other is the visuals look and feel like they could've been a SNES game (though there is something weird with the water on the overworld any time the screen scrolls), and the script is full of brevity--almost to the point of lines sounding awkward or clunky. But considering it seems to be going in fairly typical directions, I'm happy it isn't wasting my time.

It managed to scratch the JRPG itch and I can see this being one of those games I forget about and plug in every once in awhile, which admittedly are a favorite type of mine--its hard to play something like Chrono Trigger sometimes because I know it so well there aren't many surprises left (or at least I think there aren't... my last playthru revealed I had forgotten more than I realized), but when I go back to a SNES game like, say, Arcana, its gonna always be fresh because it just always falls into that valley. Am I making sense?

Kemco does seem to make interesting stuff.

Also I found out there's a version of Dark Souls on the Switch, which I'm thinking of getting. My only deterrent is I have the feeling I'll wind up becoming a fan of the series, which of course will mean needing to get a PS3 to play Demon's Souls and a PS4 to play Bloodborne... that kinda sucks. I wish they would just put the entire series on the Switch so I wouldn't have to buy another console.

Random thought:.... the Switch honestly reminds me a lot of PC gaming in the MS-DOS days (hell one game I have, Meta Gal, feels like somethin that could have been an MS-DOS game. I know its a Megaman clone but... its visuals somehow remind me of VGA/SVGA-era MS-DOS games somehow. Play it and tell me if you guys see what I'm talking about). Mostly in that the market seems to have a lot of cheap games by small studios which, some are interesting and most are basically unknown. I played this one called Crimson Keep.. and this one really feels like it could've been a PC game (its a first-person dungeon-crawler RPG... trying to think what a good comparison would be. It's like if Diablo was in first person. Yes the levels are kinda-sorta randomized). For some reason it seems like people don't like Crimson Keep, but for one dollar I thought it was all right.

Aussie2B
01-21-2020, 11:49 AM
It is funny how some games seem to go in one ear and out the other.

I haven't played that one, but I like Kemco's retro-style RPGs too. I always compare them to comfort food. It still feels like a familiar experience even if it's a game you've never played before, and there's nothing challenging about them (not in terms of the literal difficulty or anything else). You can just sort of shut off your brain and relax with them.

Ryudo
01-24-2020, 03:39 AM
First time I ever have seen someone claiming to buy those Kemco shovelware games. I swear they pump them out by the week.

Aussie2B
01-24-2020, 11:18 AM
I believe they had a big backlog that was originally mobile-only, so that made it easy to dump a whole ton of them on traditional handhelds and consoles in a short span. They also have multiple developers making them.

I bought the two that were released on PSP and all of the ones that got physical releases on Vita. I haven't finished all the ones I've bought thus far, but if I ever get through them all, I'd be up for buying more, probably the digital-only ones on Vita. But when I buy them digitally, I try to get them on sale. I think I got the PSP ones (End of Serenity and Mystic Chronicles) for around $5 each, and I definitely got at least 5 bucks of worth of entertainment out of End of Serenity (simple, breezy RPG that took me around 15 hours to beat, if I remember correctly). I was actually thinking this past week that I'd like to start up Mystic Chronicles.

Edmond Dantes
01-27-2020, 04:23 PM
So have you guys ever had one of those experiences where you actually really enjoy a game (Despite it possibly not being that good) BUT THEN you can't recommend it because it has one really glaring, damning flaw?

I had that experience with a Switch game called Crimson Keep. From what I can discover everyone else who ever played it thought it was garbage, but I kinda like it... it basically reminds me of a jankier, more amateurishly programmed King's Field or Ultima Underworld but with semirandom dungeon levels. I was actually addicted to it for a bit.

AND THEN I discovered that it can crash while loading (the loading screens are usually brief, but sometimes they never go away, so I can only assume the game crashed). These loads are every time you transition between levels, and this isn't a game where you can save at will, so if the game just suddenly decides to misbehave that's hours of progress lost right there.... that kinda sucks. Like the game would actually be pretty decent if not for this one glaring issue that just can not be forgiven.

Aussie2B
01-27-2020, 06:17 PM
Meh, I'll give people fair warning, but if I think a game is great, despite flaws, I'll still recommend it. Occasional crashing has never stopped me from loving and recommending Star Ocean 2.

Edmond Dantes
01-27-2020, 07:20 PM
Yeah but in this case, Crimson Keep autosaves either whenever you close the game or else whenever you exit a level--there is no manual saving (this is also one of those games where your save gets erased if you die). So if you exit the level and it crashes, your save is useless and you have to start the whole game over (quitting and reloading your save doesn't help... the next level still won't load, unless you just have to be really patient or persistent).

Despite enjoying the game this basically dispirited me as it basically said even if I get good and survive, the game could just randomly screw me over anyway.

Edmond Dantes
02-02-2020, 11:44 PM
So I wanted to update with some positives.

A long time ago I bought (on sale) a game called Wreckin' Ball Adventure. I don't know why I ignored it for so long, but I played it today and... its actually a lot of fun. It classes itself as a "puzzle platformer" but the main "puzzle" is you're a ball and the game has a physics engine. You start out just able to move around and jump but soon also get a grappling hook/zipline that is really fun to use. I wound up getting addicted to it for a bit.

Another game I bought but for some reason didn't play much until today was Skypeace... or SKYPEACE as its listed on my Switch. I don't know what this would be classed as... it looks like a shmup but you don't shoot, you only dodge enemies and try to maneuver into the path of coins and other pickups, and you get scored on keeping the string of pickups going.... it seems almost like something that would be a mobile phone game.... which, considering the Switch is a lot like a mobile device in some ways, makes sense it would be here. Still, I had fun with it.

My first ever pre-purchase was a thing called Crazy Zen Minigolf, because I had watched various youtubers play PC golf games like Tower Unite Golf and Golf It which all looked fun (this coming from a guy who had no pre-existing interest in the sport) and wanted something like those, but for a system I actually owned. Crazy Zen basically seems like its trying to fulfill that niche. It recently got a patch which improved the performance and fixed some camera issues, although I do think there is room for improvement in the latter area.

So yeah, three mostly-positive experiences...

On that note, Doom 3 on the Switch is actually pretty awesome. I have the original PC release but... well, my XP PC is sometimes kinda choppy with Doom 3, while it plays smooth on the Switch, so it may be my primary way to play. On that note Doom 1 and 2 recently got patched and now you can download custom maps from the Bethesda servers (though you need to make an account first--its free tho). One thing about that is I swear the enemies move faster on Switch than they do in the original DOS version, which is the one I'm most used to. This isn't a complaint.... its Doom on the go, and now finally has Final Doom, so I ain't complaining!