E-Shop for 3DS and Wii-U to be closed by 2023

[Tron 2.0]

For anyone that hasn't bought for what games they want still digitally do so asap.
https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-3ds-wii-eshop-discontinued

[Gamevet]

A friend of mine talked me into buying the GBA Super Mario Bros. 3 for the Wii U, before the shop closes. It has all of the extra levels from the e-reader cards.

[Tron 2.0]

A friend of mine talked me into buying the GBA Super Mario Bros. 3 for the Wii U, before the shop closes. It has all of the extra levels from the e-reader cards.
Yeah i want to buy that game asap since the e-card reader levels are included.

[Nz17]

It always upsets me when a digital games shop or service is discontinued. It is one thing if it is a small dev. that can't afford to keep a server running. It is another thing when a multi-billion international corporation is like, "Oh, we're making money from them all right, just not /enough/ money from them, so we're going to kill them to promote /the current/ or /next thing/!" Sure, these consoles have been online for a decade, however, I am not done yet with paying and playing! Thanks to these "inevitable" announcements, I have got to hurry to get the themes, DLC, and games that I wish to purchase bought before it is not possible.

Unfortunately, it is starting *this August* that you cannot add funds for anything from the Nintendo Wii U and 3DS eShops. That's right, not 13 months (that's for most downloads), we have only 6 months before no funds / shop credits can be bought at all. If you are planning to use a credit or debit card, you have even fewer months than that. The March 2023 part is only for download card codes for specific games like Animal Crossing which you might find at Amazon or GameStop.

The way Nintendo explains it could be clearer. Something like a calendar with bullet points would have been simpler to understand. As it is, here is their page and FAQ about the discontinuations:
https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/57847/kw/eshop/p/605

[Gameguy]

Not to worry, I'm sure Nintendo will make a new shop available for a new upcoming console. You'll safely be able to rebuy everything you own again, and again, and again. There will probably be new ports or remastered versions of certain games as well so they'll work on those new systems with different controls, they're just waiting for everyone to quickly buy the old versions before the store closes, and then they'll make the announcements for the new versions.

[RARusk]

Reminds me: I need to start softmodding my 3DS system.

[Aussie2B]

The end is nigh. Anybody else making some last-minute purchases before both eShops close tomorrow? I don't have a Wii U myself, but I do have some funds on my 3DS that I need to spend. I added the funds with a Nintendo gift card prior to them disabling that option and spent most of what I had a while back, but I've been waffling on what to do with the last 16-some bucks on there. I'll probably grab a couple of games from Level-5's Guild series, but there is a nice Capcom sale going on. Nice discount on Gurumin 3D too, but I played through that on PSP just recently. I wish more publishers were doing a last-minute sale, but I guess they figure FOMO will make people buy even at full price.

It is still possible to add funds if you want, but I don't know the exact details of it. I've never made a Nintendo Network ID, but if you have one and link your system to it, you can add funds online or via Switch or whatever and then those funds will be available on your linked 3DS/Wii U as well. Sometime like that. If I'm getting any of the specifics wrong, feel free to correct me.

This is also the end of the Virtual Console service. Pretty sizable run from 2006 to 2023. I'm sad to see it go, since I much prefer the idea of a one-time purchase than having to pay a subscription. Plus, there's so much that appeared on the Wii, 3DS, and Wii U via Virtual Console that isn't available on Switch. So many of these games are going back to only being available legally via old secondhand physical copies.

[Niku-Sama]

i tried but it wont let me log into my account on the wii u i am using. says something about it not being the primary system or something like that

edit:
right after i posted this i found my 3ds in a box i was adding more stuff to so i charged it and got a few games but nothing major.
Otosan something or rather for $1 and Gurumin 3d for $1.99

i only had $3 and change in there and the rest of the games i wanted are also available physical so i'd rather just get those.
i would have really liked to get on my wii u to download things but after the shitshow nintendo made of that system i have no issue getting the games i want for it by other means

[Tron 2.0]

The end is nigh. Anybody else making some last-minute purchases before both eShops close tomorrow? I don't have a Wii U myself, but I do have some funds on my 3DS that I need to spend. I added the funds with a Nintendo gift card prior to them disabling that option and spent most of what I had a while back, but I've been waffling on what to do with the last 16-some bucks on there. I'll probably grab a couple of games from Level-5's Guild series, but there is a nice Capcom sale going on. Nice discount on Gurumin 3D too, but I played through that on PSP just recently. I wish more publishers were doing a last-minute sale, but I guess they figure FOMO will make people buy even at full price.

It is still possible to add funds if you want, but I don't know the exact details of it. I've never made a Nintendo Network ID, but if you have one and link your system to it, you can add funds online or via Switch or whatever and then those funds will be available on your linked 3DS/Wii U as well. Sometime like that. If I'm getting any of the specifics wrong, feel free to correct me.

This is also the end of the Virtual Console service. Pretty sizable run from 2006 to 2023. I'm sad to see it go, since I much prefer the idea of a one-time purchase than having to pay a subscription. Plus, there's so much that appeared on the Wii, 3DS, and Wii U via Virtual Console that isn't available on Switch. So many of these games are going back to only being available legally via old secondhand physical copies.
I was able to for the wii-u and buy a few games before the shop closes today.I was gonna buy another gift card to buy more but i figure i have enough on the wii-u all ready.If i ever want to put any more games on the console there are soft mods for the console etc.By the way i also prefer the virtual console model more compared to the subscription of nso for switch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyB9E2zEFBA

[kupomogli]

I own the PSP version, but I bought Gurumin 3D because I love the 3D effect on the 3DS when it's done well and Gurumin is one of those games that I really wished had a physical release on 3DS. It was only $2 digital so I was like, whatever, why not. I also purchased the RPG Maker app so I can at the very least play RPGs others have made and it was free to do so, so why not. I probably won't ever use it, but hey, if I ever decide to do so now I can.

[SparTonberry]

It is still possible to add funds if you want, but I don't know the exact details of it. I've never made a Nintendo Network ID, but if you have one and link your system to it, you can add funds online or via Switch or whatever and then those funds will be available on your linked 3DS/Wii U as well. Sometime like that. If I'm getting any of the specifics wrong, feel free to correct me.
You have to (assume Nintendo doesn't just wipe balances) link the account to a Nintendo Network ID. Then create a profile on Switch, linked to the same Nintendo Network ID. Then on the Funds menu inside the Switch eShop, there will be an option to share the balance with Wii U/3DS. Again, hopefully Nintendo won't wipe balances and will keep them there to be reclaimed in this manner.
Problem if you are a user linked out-of-region accounts is that although Nintendo allowed me to use my US credit card to buy funds on the JP account on my JP 3DS previously, they don't allow that on Switch. It will detect and refuse CC or Paypal accounts outside the account's region. It'll let you still link the account, even if the Switch doesn't match, and you can even access the store. But to add funds, it'll only accept Prepaid Cards (which means you'll have to buy codes from a seller you trust).

[Aussie2B]

Yeah, now's the time to load up on any free apps or demos or whatever you may want too.

I got skunked by tax, since I didn't bother to do the math beforehand. I was less than 50 cents short from getting two of the $7.99 Guild games. So I just grabbed Attack of the Friday Monsters!, which seemed to be the highest praised one, and instead of getting Crimson Shroud, like I had planned, I randomly bought Pocket Card Jockey. I was looking for something priced at $6.99 so I wouldn't be left with much leftover funds. I figured I like games with weird premises, and I'm up for trying more non-Pokemon Game Freak games.

Several months back, I spent the rest of the funds I added getting all three BoxBoy games on 3DS, Pushmo (to go with Crashmo, which my husband already bought on this 2DS years ago), and Earthbound on Virtual Console.

If I cared more about the 3DS, I probably would've added more funds and got all the Guild games and more of the digital-only 3DS-exclusive games, but honestly, I've mostly ignored the 3DS thus far. I was way more focused on the Vita. But it's nice to grab a few things while I can.

[kupomogli]

When you guys buy games on eshop in the future, purchase the games online with Paypal, this way you don't have to add extra funds.

[YoshiM]

When I found out "Dungeons and Dragons:Chronicles of Mystara" was on the cheap so I added some funds and jumped into the shop. As I strolled through the virtual aisles I picked up one of the Monster Hunter games on the U followed by "3D Classics: Kid Icarus" on the 3DS. Last weekend I rounded out my shopping with the Smash Contoller option for the 3DS along with Retro City Rampage DX.

I've already played some Kid Icarus but dang...I didn't think they'd mess with the sound.

[SparTonberry]

Kid Icarus is based on the Famicom Disk System version.
I instantly recognized that from the instant I booted it up. The distinctive FDS farty FM sound.
That and the save function were the indicators.

[YoshiM]

Kid Icarus is based on the Famicom Disk System version.
I instantly recognized that from the instant I booted it up. The distinctive FDS farty FM sound.
That and the save function were the indicators.

The 3D Classics version is? Huh. I've got an N8 Everdrive that can also play Famicom disk games along with having my NES modded to have proper sound. I may have to take the Pepsi challenge myself as I never did a comparison.

[Tron 2.0]

When I found out "Dungeons and Dragons:Chronicles of Mystara" was on the cheap so I added some funds and jumped into the shop.
I also bought dungeons and dragons chronicles of mystara for wii-u.Sure i have it digitally for PS3 and a japanese physical copy all ready but i thought for wii-u why not since it's dirt cheap.

[Gameguy]

So many of these games are going back to only being available legally via old secondhand physical copies.
So game collecting will go back to how we collected games when we first got into collecting? I'm not exactly finding a huge problem with that as it's how I've been collecting for the last 20 years.

As for download only games, I'm sure people will find ways to still play these games in the future. Just as people used to emulate old console games before official virtual console options existed. There just may not be a paying option to accomplish it.


I was able to for the wii-u and buy a few games before the shop closes today.I was gonna buy another gift card to buy more but i figure i have enough on the wii-u all ready.
Are you worried that your Wii U will stop working? Apparently some consoles are dying now because they were made using faulty flash memory, the firmware becomes corrupt and the consoles stop working.

[Aussie2B]

The gaming industry doesn't exist just to serve your tastes and your tastes alone. Less accessibility is always bad. There are only a finite number of physical copies of any game, not all physical copies are in great condition, and the number of physical copies that are viable for playing is only going to decrease as games break down all on their own or in fires, floods, etc. But the biggest problem is that, even if you can find a physical copy for sale for easily enough, many retro games are prohibitively expensive, and I don't want legal retro gaming to be the realm solely of the rich (or those who are old enough to have acquired this stuff cheaply 20+ years ago). Would I prefer to have a SNES cart of Earthbound? Of course. Am I about to pay the current going rate? Hell no. Hence why I picked up the Virtual Console release on 3DS. You can claim things will go back to as they were when we first started collecting, but those days are never coming back when countless games that could be had for less than $20, even less than $5, now cost hundreds of dollars, and finding anything good at a decent price in the wild is a lucky find, let alone scoring something for way less than the market rate.

Yes, emulation exists and has existed for a long time, but it's myopic to think there are no people who prefer to acquire digital retro games in a legal capacity.

[Gameguy]

The gaming industry doesn't exist just to serve your tastes and your tastes alone.
And I don't exist to be a walking pile of meat for businesses to simply extract money from however they'd like. I choose to avoid supporting game purchasing methods that I personally dislike, and I have every right to do so. I want physical copies to continue to get made, so if I bought games through digital means, how would that be encouraging companies to continue manufacturing physical copies?

My main comment was that I don't really see how going back to previous collecting methods would be so bad if it came to that. It wasn't too annoying to discourage people from collecting that way for decades previously, if a hobby is too annoying then people wouldn't bother sticking with it for any length of time.


Less accessibility is always bad.
And yet you're encouraging the game industry to move towards a digital download only future where games can be delisted and made unavailable at any time, and sold in a way that prevents them from being resold, given away, or shared with others in any capacity. If you didn't buy it new, you can't ever get it from anyone else either. If someone is born today, they'll never have the chance to ever buy an E-Shop game legally, yet I can still purchase and play Atari 2600 games from well before I was born.

It's like how the Satellaview is mostly considered lost media at this point, and the only surviving games and content exist due to piracy.


There are only a finite number of physical copies of any game...
If more people went back to buying physical copies over digital downloads then there would be more copies manufactured, meaning there would be more surviving copies available in the future. Games weren't that rare for the most part, with only a few exceptions.


...going to decrease as games break down all on their own or in fires, floods, etc.
It's more likely that the consoles will break down than the actual games, and when these systems do break down years from now any digital only games stored on them will be all lost. Eventually accounts will be shut down too so no games can be redownloaded, unless you expect console support to continue even decades from now. With physical games, so far there's new consoles that have backwards compatibility and can play earlier games as well as clone consoles that can play older cartridges. Physical games do tend to outlast the original consoles.

Though with the DS/3DS and Switch specifically, there is debate to how long these physical games will last as they're stored on flash memory so maybe they'll fail before the consoles do.


But the biggest problem is that, even if you can find a physical copy for sale for easily enough, many retro games are prohibitively expensive...
This is true, it's one major part of collecting which I really dislike today. I will mention benefits though, like if you did buy some games used cheaply or even new originally, they could have appreciated in value significantly becoming an investment, meaning if you got tired of certain titles you could sell them for a good amount today. It surprises me how many used DS games have become extremely expensive, many I bought new or used while the console was current.

Your example is also focusing on classic console games, while I'm mostly tending to think of brand new games being released on new/current consoles. New physical copies should be somewhat fairly priced as they aren't discontinued collectibles yet, and there's a chance they could still appreciate in value as a collectible, or be sold or traded in towards other games if you got bored with them. Any new game purchased digitally has zero monetary value, whatever you spent is gone forever. For older games like the virtual console offered, really they should have been offered in affordable compilations like other companies have done in the past.

I will point out that there are some officially licensed rereleases of old games newly made for those original consoles, like Avenging Spirit on Gameboy as one example. If there was enough demand for physical copies over digital releases then plenty more games would be getting releases this way which are still cheaper than the original copies. These rereleases could become valuable in the future as well, unlike digital download copies.


Yes, emulation exists and has existed for a long time, but it's myopic to think there are no people who prefer to acquire digital retro games in a legal capacity.
Eventually that won't be possible, services like the E-Shop get shut down making legal methods no longer an option. The future is moving towards subscription services that you'll keep paying for indefinitely and you'll own nothing, this is what current consumers pushed the industry towards with their purchases. You have every right to do that, but I won't support it myself with my purchase choices.

[Tron 2.0]

So game collecting will go back to how we collected games when we first got into collecting? I'm not exactly finding a huge problem with that as it's how I've been collecting for the last 20 years.

As for download only games, I'm sure people will find ways to still play these games in the future. Just as people used to emulate old console games before official virtual console options existed. There just may not be a paying option to accomplish it.


Are you worried that your Wii U will stop working? Apparently some consoles are dying now because they were made using faulty flash memory, the firmware becomes corrupt and the consoles stop working.
Some one will find a fix for it.

[Aussie2B]

Dude, I don't have time for a wall of fragmented, piecemeal responses that try to remove the context of each line. That's not how normal people communicate.

I'm not telling you to buy something you don't want. You're the one who quoted me to argue against what I had said (that it's unfortunate that many Virtual Console releases are now only available legally via their original cartridge release). How is it so hard to grasp that other people want things that you personally may not be interested in, and why is it bad to you to support them having access to those things? In what way am I supporting a digital-only future? Simply by very rarely buying digital releases? I prefer to buy physical whenever I reasonably can. Nintendo is not going to know or care if I drop $300 for an Earthbound cart on eBay. And when I bought the Virtual Console version on 3DS, that didn't make the physical copies vanish into thin air, nor is it going to make bootleggers stop making repros for those who want a physical copy without paying the cost of an authentic cart. So how exactly does a digital release of a retro game harm anything? Because Nintendo sure as hell isn't about to manufacture new official SNES carts no matter how the Virtual Console sales go (and the repros from Limited Run Games and the like are only half-legit at best because they're not authorized by Nintendo, so it's actually more legit buying VC releases). Boycotting VC releases accomplishes absolutely nothing. And I'm talking about old games because that's literally what I was talking about in what you quoted. If you're trying to shift goalposts and make this about something else, that's your own problem, but don't shove words into my mouth. If you actually read the posts that you quote, you should well know that I always support and encourage new games getting physical releases. I don't know what imaginary person you think you're arguing with.

And this topic is literally solely about the the 3DS and Wii U eShops closing. In other words, solely about digital releases (some digital-only, many not). If you hate digital releases so much, what is the purpose and value of you posting in this topic? You don't even like modern gaming in general, yet you repeatedly come into this section just to bitch and complain in every topic. What's the point? Just to piss on everybody's parade? Do you not have better things to do with your life?

[Gameguy]

Some one will find a fix for it.
I hope so, I don't want consoles to just die out. I may not be interested in many Wii U games but the hardware itself seems interesting. Basically it's how I view the original Wii as well, mostly useful or fun to mess around with if modded or hacked.


Dude, I don't have time for a wall of fragmented, piecemeal responses that try to remove the context of each line. That's not how normal people communicate.
I tend to separate text in an attempt to keep posts from becoming too bloated, I am not trying to remove the context.


I'm not telling you to buy something you don't want. You're the one who quoted me to argue against what I had said (that it's unfortunate that many Virtual Console releases are now only available legally via their original cartridge release). How is it so hard to grasp that other people want things that you personally may not be interested in, and why is it bad to you to support them having access to those things? In what way am I supporting a digital-only future? Simply by very rarely buying digital releases? I prefer to buy physical whenever I reasonably can. Nintendo is not going to know or care if I drop $300 for an Earthbound cart on eBay. And when I bought the Virtual Console version on 3DS, that didn't make the physical copies vanish into thin air, nor is it going to make bootleggers stop making repros for those who want a physical copy without paying the cost of an authentic cart. So how exactly does a digital release of a retro game harm anything? Because Nintendo sure as hell isn't about to manufacture new official SNES carts no matter how the Virtual Console sales go (and the repros from Limited Run Games and the like are only half-legit at best because they're not authorized by Nintendo, so it's actually more legit buying VC releases). Boycotting VC releases accomplishes absolutely nothing. And I'm talking about old games because that's literally what I was talking about in what you quoted. If you're trying to shift goalposts and make this about something else, that's your own problem, but don't shove words into my mouth. If you actually read the posts that you quote, you should well know that I always support and encourage new games getting physical releases. I don't know what imaginary person you think you're arguing with.
So this is how I should reply? Throw together around a dozen different points together in a single wall of text with no formatting whatsoever? You consider this easier to read?

First, I never said that it's good that the Virtual Console shop has closed. I do disagree with business practices behind how the shop was structured, but I'm not happy it's closed down(I'm not sad either). I might as well quote the whole paragraph you wrote as you're claiming I took it out of context.


This is also the end of the Virtual Console service. Pretty sizable run from 2006 to 2023. I'm sad to see it go, since I much prefer the idea of a one-time purchase than having to pay a subscription. Plus, there's so much that appeared on the Wii, 3DS, and Wii U via Virtual Console that isn't available on Switch. So many of these games are going back to only being available legally via old secondhand physical copies.
You make it sound like you're about to cry over the closure, like mourning a dead child.


So game collecting will go back to how we collected games when we first got into collecting? I'm not exactly finding a huge problem with that as it's how I've been collecting for the last 20 years.

As for download only games, I'm sure people will find ways to still play these games in the future. Just as people used to emulate old console games before official virtual console options existed. There just may not be a paying option to accomplish it.
My reply was to say that it's closure is almost irrelevant and doesn't matter either way. Games are still available as they were physically, and otherwise will still be available to play digitally through other means. Why be so upset when the games will still be easy enough to obtain? Of course you replied to this by jumping down my throat.

I suppose I can briefly address some other points from your wall of text. With Earthbound, Nintendo rereleased the game in Japan on the GBA, there's no need to ever rerelease it physically here if people happily paid $10 for a download only copy. I do believe if people were unwilling to pay for digital releases then we would be getting actual physical releases. I don't expect Nintendo to start manufacturing new SNES carts but games would get rereleased on whatever the current console available is.

Of course people want other things that I don't. The main thing I've learned is that most people are gladly willing to give up their privacy and consumer rights for extra convenience. You're right, me boycotting VC releases accomplishes absolutely nothing, at this point I'm just sticking to my principals. And yes, you are still supporting a digital-only future by very rarely buying digital releases, because it's not just you but also millions of other people like you who are doing the same. It wasn't too long ago that consumers backlashed against Xbox One when games were originally supposed to be tied to DRM(and also regarding privacy, the Microsoft staff listened in on consumer conversations through the Xbox One (https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/9774843/xbox-spying-private-conversations-microsoft/)), yet now the PS5 is available without a disc drive and people are fine with DRM filled games. In another generation or two there won't be any consoles available with a disc drive or cart slot, there will only be a digital download version. Once games are fully streamable instead of dowloadable to an individual console, there won't be any preservation either.


And this topic is literally solely about the the 3DS and Wii U eShops closing. In other words, solely about digital releases (some digital-only, many not). If you hate digital releases so much, what is the purpose and value of you posting in this topic? You don't even like modern gaming in general, yet you repeatedly come into this section just to bitch and complain in every topic. What's the point? Just to piss on everybody's parade? Do you not have better things to do with your life?
I posted in this topic to have a discussion, which is the purpose of a discussion forum. I would happily post in other topics if there were any additional posts in other sections to reply to, but of course this forum is mostly dead with little discussion at all. I actually like some aspects of modern gaming like various Switch releases, I just don't own a Switch because I can't afford to at this point. The console basically feels like the DS, a large selection of good games of various genres and various developers both large and small.

Of course, there is something you said which is why I replied to you.


The end is nigh. Anybody else making some last-minute purchases before both eShops close tomorrow? I don't have a Wii U myself, but I do have some funds on my 3DS that I need to spend. I added the funds with a Nintendo gift card prior to them disabling that option and spent most of what I had a while back, but I've been waffling on what to do with the last 16-some bucks on there. I'll probably grab a couple of games from Level-5's Guild series, but there is a nice Capcom sale going on. Nice discount on Gurumin 3D too, but I played through that on PSP just recently. I wish more publishers were doing a last-minute sale, but I guess they figure FOMO will make people buy even at full price.

It is still possible to add funds if you want, but I don't know the exact details of it. I've never made a Nintendo Network ID, but if you have one and link your system to it, you can add funds online or via Switch or whatever and then those funds will be available on your linked 3DS/Wii U as well. Sometime like that. If I'm getting any of the specifics wrong, feel free to correct me.

This is also the end of the Virtual Console service. Pretty sizable run from 2006 to 2023. I'm sad to see it go, since I much prefer the idea of a one-time purchase than having to pay a subscription. Plus, there's so much that appeared on the Wii, 3DS, and Wii U via Virtual Console that isn't available on Switch. So many of these games are going back to only being available legally via old secondhand physical copies.
Honestly that's the general modern consumer attitude I really dislike, not just with video games. You outright say you feel the publishers are gouging consumers using FOMO to extract as much money as possible from them, then immediately mention how people can give their money to these publishers. Why would any consumer choose to reward this behavior? You're mostly bothered with this digital storefront closure because you're not able to give businesses your money, not because you can't access these old games anymore through some other means(legal or not). It's not just you but with most consumers today. People are happy to get less and pay more, even if some complain they mostly don't change their spending habits so businesses don't change their policies either. I just don't get this mentality. Businesses used to cater to consumers to attract their business, now consumers go out of their way giving money to a business just to "support the industry" or "support the economy" no matter how they're treated. I just don't get it. And as businesses cater to the majority to maximize profit, I end up affected by other peoples' preferences and spending habits, which is why I care.

[Aussie2B]

My posts are formatted. It's called a paragraph. You know, a cohesive series of thoughts, with one sentence leading into and connected to the next, taking into consideration the full context of the posts in this thread. The way the vast majority of the posts on this forum have been written on this forum in its 20+ years of existence. Because most people aren't like robots who communicate in disjointed bullet points. When people quote things line by line, they're usually in the middle of a heated argument and are trying to get a gotcha by removing context, which is exactly what you do when you respond to a single line, disregarding every line before and after it. Saying it's to avoid bloat is laughable because a massive wall of quotes and responses is many times longer than a single paragraph or two.

It's also laughable to suggest I seemed like I was about to cry over the end of the Virtual Console service. But to compare my reaction to mourning a dead child? That's flat out disgusting and despicable.

So you want to gatekeep legal retro gaming, guilt and shame people who buy digital games, and expect others to have the same total indifference to the closure that you feel. I get it. To someone who appears to approach this hobby from a totally self-centered place, maybe my posts are a mystery to you, but it's called trying to be helpful and considerate of other gamers. I bumped this topic to give people here a heads-up about the closure, I brought attention to good discounts, even though I didn't get them myself, and I mentioned adding funds was still possible because others might still have wanted to get something and earlier posts made it seem as if it was already impossible at that point. I'm not going to tell anybody how they should or shouldn't spend their money. Even if I think a company is banking on FOMO, who cares? That's my opinion and only affects my purchasing decisions. It's not going to make me hide information that I feel could be helpful to others because, shock and awe, I actually like sharing my hobby with others and helping them find and obtain games they want, just as others have done for me for decades. Hobby-based communities should be about camaraderie, not being petty and shitting on people for buying/wanting games you think they shouldn't. But there's no reasoning with people who have a zero-sum mentality. It's like the guys who turn blue in the face over otome games existing because they believe resources going to otome games means fewer male-targeted games for them to buy. It all boils down to people thinking nothing but things that serve them deserve to exist.

[Gameguy]

I'm surprised that you replied as it's been several weeks. As you've said this topic was for the e-shop, which is now closed, and you've bumped it up after several weeks just to insult me again. I'm mostly surprised as you've just PMd me an official infraction for "flaming", yet that seems to be why you just posted here again. It seems a bit hypocritical.



My posts are formatted. It's called a paragraph. You know, a cohesive series of thoughts, with one sentence leading into and connected to the next, taking into consideration the full context of the posts in this thread. The way the vast majority of the posts on this forum have been written on this forum in its 20+ years of existence. Because most people aren't like robots who communicate in disjointed bullet points. When people quote things line by line, they're usually in the middle of a heated argument and are trying to get a gotcha by removing context, which is exactly what you do when you respond to a single line, disregarding every line before and after it. Saying it's to avoid bloat is laughable because a massive wall of quotes and responses is many times longer than a single paragraph or two.
To say that quoting a single sentence or two takes less space than quoting an entire paragraph or two...I'll just disagree with that.

I've often broken down quotes for discussion on various topics since I've started posting here around 15 years ago, including mostly positive discussions. It's not to remove context as you're claiming. Feel free to check, I mostly remember doing this in a cartoon discussion thread in off topic. Plenty of other forum members here do the same, again often when posting positively.

Your paragraph I called a wall of text was 309 words long. It's actually considered bad form when a paragraph is over 200 words. If you don't believe me, here's some tips on better writing.

https://yoast.com/paragraph-length-check/#:~:text=If%20your%20paragraph%20is%20over,highly% 20skilled%20readers%20as%20well.

Also, it's considered proper to start a new paragraph when a new idea or point is mentioned. Again, I'll post a link as I'm sure you don't believe me.

https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_writing/academic_writing/paragraphs_and_paragraphing/index.html

When you mentioned that the gaming industry doesn't exist just to serve my tastes(just to be condescending), this paragraph has several different points and it's 226 words long. Specifically you mention accessibility to purchasing games, vulnerabilities to physical media, and costs of video games which are different points and could be discussed and replied to separately, which is what I chose to do.



So you want to gatekeep legal retro gaming, guilt and shame people who buy digital games, and expect others to have the same total indifference to the closure that you feel. I get it. To someone who appears to approach this hobby from a totally self-centered place, maybe my posts are a mystery to you, but it's called trying to be helpful and considerate of other gamers. I bumped this topic to give people here a heads-up about the closure, I brought attention to good discounts, even though I didn't get them myself, and I mentioned adding funds was still possible because others might still have wanted to get something and earlier posts made it seem as if it was already impossible at that point. I'm not going to tell anybody how they should or shouldn't spend their money. Even if I think a company is banking on FOMO, who cares? That's my opinion and only affects my purchasing decisions. It's not going to make me hide information that I feel could be helpful to others because, shock and awe, I actually like sharing my hobby with others and helping them find and obtain games they want, just as others have done for me for decades. Hobby-based communities should be about camaraderie, not being petty and shitting on people for buying/wanting games you think they shouldn't. But there's no reasoning with people who have a zero-sum mentality. It's like the guys who turn blue in the face over otome games existing because they believe resources going to otome games means fewer male-targeted games for them to buy. It all boils down to people thinking nothing but things that serve them deserve to exist.
This paragraph is 284 words, but fine I'll keep it quoted all together even though it's still bad form and difficult to read as it's too long.

You said you were trying to be helpful, which is the same reason I posted that even when the shop closes down there will be ways to access those games. They won't be lost media or completely unavailable. Not everyone would know that was possible, I didn't know until recently that 3DS modding was possible and e-shop games were otherwise available for access, when I last looked years earlier it wasn't possible and it looked like the various e-shop only games would disappear once the store eventually closed. You didn't make any mention of this option, and it's actually important for game preservation. It's basically how abandonware was treated for years in terms of preservation. When did I tell you to hide information? When did I specifically tell people to outright boycott the e-shop? I only mentioned another possible option after the shop would close down and become unavailable.

The way this thread was heading, it looked like various posters were upset about the closure and scrambling to make last minute purchases, worried that games would become completely unavailable. I'll admit, I did partially find this funny as the shop has been open for almost 12 years so there was plenty of time for anyone to get all the games they really wanted(the main reason to my indifference), but I could see some last minute purchases happening. In any case I didn't see why there would need to be such sadness over the closure by so many posters so I pointed out that the games would still be available otherwise(the second reason to my indifference), as I'm sure not everyone would know about this.

You responded with a condescending post. You caught me in a bad mood so I replied back fully voicing my opinions on digital downloads, instead of simply ignoring your post as I probably should have. Of course each time you replied back you directly attacked me, not just my opinions, while I almost exclusively replied to your opinions rather than directly insult you. I did criticise you directly a few times after you insulted me, and I don't see why not when you started pot shots at me. You say I only come into modern gaming to "bitch and complain in every topic" and implied I must not have a life. Maybe you don't read enough posts in modern gaming, the most recent posts in modern gaming I've made were positive like talking about PAPETURA. Even before I posted here in this thread after you initially bumped it, I posted positively about Beyond Shadowgate which looks very promising. I'll admit I was also happy to see an entire thread created just to complain about certain digital download issues as I'm clearly not alone in my opinions, yet you didn't post in that thread to criticise anyone, only me here.

As for your point on purchasing decisions, you're right that anyone can spend their money however they want. I just interject with further information so those decisions can be made fully informed. If someone is going to make a purchase and I know the same item is priced lower or on sale elsewhere, I'll at least mention it to the purchaser so they're aware of their options. Same if I know an item is poor quality or problematic as I've used it myself, I'll mention this to others as well. Or if something is out of print and expensive, but I know there's an announcement of an upcoming re-release, I'll mention that too.

[JSoup]

I like that a third of this thread is a discussion on syntax and not the e-shop.

My favorite part of the shutdown was that Completionist clown trying to win free e-points by dropping $1500+ to create and archive of all the Shop titles. Over half the comments at the time were people pointing out that everything from the 3DS shop all the way back to the Wii Shop had been archived two years before hand and was up (at the time) on the Internet Archive.

[SparTonberry]

If he wants to spend his money buying every game, I don't see why you need to make fun of him for it.

[JSoup]

If he wants to spend his money buying every game, I don't see why you need to make fun of him for it.

Well, firstly, it's more making fun of why he did it more than it being done at all. And the reason was an ill-conceived bid for more up doots. Secondly, he's a public entertainer slash talking head. When you make your money being a clown on camera, you don't get to call foul when people laugh. Particularly so when the laughing is caused by, as I said, an ill-conceived bid for doots.

And yes, he is of course free to spend his money as he wishes.

[JSoup]

The closure will be happening in April 2024. (https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63227/#s1q2)

[Tron 2.0]

The closure will be happening in April 2024. (https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63227/#s1q2)
I heard about recently hopefully later on maybe some one can setup a private server for online play.Hey it happen with the wii when it's network was shutdown.

[JSoup]

I heard about recently hopefully later on maybe some one can setup a private server for online play.Hey it happen with the wii when it's network was shutdown.

Servers already exist for select games. You'll need to Google the titles you're interested in for yourself. A server for that badge game went up just a few weeks after it officially went offline.

[Tron 2.0]

Servers already exist for select games. You'll need to Google the titles you're interested in for yourself. A server for that badge game went up just a few weeks after it officially went offline.
Nice !!

[fpbrush]

Hey, it’s something.

[JSoup]

Yeah, we got what we gots. Most games aren't going to be a major issue with modified online or jury-rigged single player. That badge game, for example, has most of it's gocha elements striped out because of how it works. If that's why you liked it, you're out of luck. Different games will act in different ways.

[Gameguy]

My favorite part of the shutdown was that Completionist clown trying to win free e-points by dropping $1500+ to create and archive of all the Shop titles. Over half the comments at the time were people pointing out that everything from the 3DS shop all the way back to the Wii Shop had been archived two years before hand and was up (at the time) on the Internet Archive.


If he wants to spend his money buying every game, I don't see why you need to make fun of him for it.
Don't feel too bad about making fun of the Completionist, it seems the charity he was running was a scam as in the over 10 years of collecting donations, not one penny was actually donated to any charity. He just kept all the money in an account.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb0dMF1zHyA

[Tron 2.0]

Don't feel too bad about making fun of the Completionist, it seems the charity he was running was a scam as in the over 10 years of collecting donations, not one penny was actually donated to any charity. He just kept all the money in an account.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb0dMF1zHyA
Now this he's going after karl jobst for slander.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFYCYwvRbEU&t=11s

[Gameguy]

Now this he's going after karl jobst for slander.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFYCYwvRbEU&t=11s
I saw that video. This will be interesting to keep track of, almost another Billy Mitchell.

[fpbrush]

Lol, I don’t know where this thread went. But a lot of eshop stuff still available in original format.

[JSoup]

So, the shop is completely closed forever as of now.

If you never got around to modding your Wii U/3DS, here's a new open source network to bring the shops and stuff back:
https://pretendo.network/

[Tron 2.0]

So, the shop is completely closed forever as of now.

If you never got around to modding your Wii U/3DS, here's a new open source network to bring the shops and stuff back:
https://pretendo.network/
Yeah i was about to mention that private server.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhXIp7n3kic

[Gametrek]

The problem with the closing of 3DS ( or even Wii U ) and Wii online shops is that it is a system that people brought into. Believing their purchase would be respected and they would be able to go it with there hardware. As with Googleplay/AppleStore/Microsoft Store which allows you to DLC anything you already purchase forever. Same with a fee-based subscription simular to a Golf-Course, Adobe-products, and so forth allows you to install on as many devices you want to.

The biggest problem with all is when hardware makers ( like Lenova lying about viruses and earlier hardware ) wants to make sales. When you the consumer find loop-holles ( like how you could take
a Labtop from 2016 and use an external GPU ) many of these software manifacturers will slowly put up barriers ( make it impossible or limit your usage, or just do not support the feature ( even if it is fully
supported ).

......

Like saying "hey my Wii works, why not just allow me to make digital purchases without forcing me to upgrade via a Homebrew app.

Nintendo is like ....nah that is not how we roll. Just purchase a Switch already. We do not even care if you modify the darn thing, just keep your DLC outside our networks otherwise we will brick-you and you will have a Brick-U..

The truth is that these manifactruers do not rspect us ( the consumers, players, fans, etc ) at all. Especially the fact we are not Japanese. To make things worst is when you have people in the videogame-market-place making promises and lying through there teeth to produce garbage,
like that woman and her Android gaming device that turned out to be Wannabe Chinar-ware junk.

The shops should stay open and companies like Nintendo and Microsoft should promote making
sales on these various hardware along with promoting connectivity.

Not just "buy the Switch II it will be great, look you could run Linux. Android, and Wine on it."

Especially when you have phones out there that are way more powerful. Or even if the fact that
Apple literally keeps making desktops that are literally after-market chips. There goes the next generation of gaming. Might as well get an apple M3 M4 and emulate whatever game system
that comes next. Dress it up like a NES and call it a day.

[JSoup]

If people came into the 3DS/Wii U expecting that fucking Nintendo was going to respect them on anything other than 'please spend more money', then a system shut down isn't their biggest problem.

[Gametrek]

I think Nintendo died when Reggie left.
At this point the Switch ( or II ) is just another
device to install Linux on, at this point. I truly wish
they would just slying install a SIM card reader and not
tell anybody about it.

I get there method of thinking. We make console games because we sell "what should be" amazing hardware despite literally not competing with Apple, when they know they could ( but do not have the leadership or direction to even attempt such a thing ).

At least they are not SEGA ( via Sammy ).