View Full Version : NEO GEO ROMS
Ghost Nz
09-21-2003, 01:38 AM
:D hey can anyone give me some sites that have whicked neo geo roms 4 neorage X for D/L like aero wings 2-3 and stuff like that .... oh and not ones that are corrupt :-D :P
AB Positive
09-21-2003, 01:46 AM
counting...
couting the seconds until bannage...
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-AG
Gunstarhero
09-21-2003, 01:47 AM
Why dont you buy the real fucking thing.
buttasuperb
09-21-2003, 01:47 AM
counting...
couting the seconds until bannage...
10....
9....
-AG
Why? Everyone loves romzzzzzzz... :roll:
Ghost Nz
09-21-2003, 02:32 AM
mayb cuz im to poor and to young to get a job that will pay enuf! :P
whats your point? go buy the ports.
sure, it's not quite the same as the original, but then again neither is playing it on your comp, and the ports are at least official product.
AB Positive
09-21-2003, 08:08 AM
butta: while emulation talk here is allowed, I'm almost certain that flat out asking for roms is not.
plus, this makes no sense and I'd bet it's a gimmick post.
-AG
Ed Oscuro
09-21-2003, 10:57 AM
I like AES carts. I can't tell anybody where I downloaded them from, though :maskofzorro:
buttasuperb
09-21-2003, 01:06 PM
butta: while emulation talk here is allowed, I'm almost certain that flat out asking for roms is not.
plus, this makes no sense and I'd bet it's a gimmick post.
-AG
Sarcasm is once again lost over the internet.
Querjek
09-21-2003, 01:18 PM
mayb cuz im to poor and to young to get a job that will pay enuf! :P
And a bit too young to have grasp this thing we here refer to as "grammar".
maxlords
09-21-2003, 01:35 PM
mayb cuz im to poor and to young to get a job that will pay enuf! :P
Learn to spell and use grammar properly. Someone might consider taking you seriously. And asking for ROMs is not allowed on this section of the forums.
AB Positive
09-21-2003, 02:30 PM
butta: while emulation talk here is allowed, I'm almost certain that flat out asking for roms is not.
plus, this makes no sense and I'd bet it's a gimmick post.
-AG
Sarcasm is once again lost over the internet.
d'oh! I guess I'll have to be punished by the net police.
...no chance there's a King looklike in there is there? 8-)
-AG
Sotenga
09-21-2003, 02:47 PM
Why dont you buy the real fucking thing.
Because buying the real ****ing thing will force me to take a mortgage out on my secret underwater chateau. I'll stick to roms, thanks. :P
Achika
09-21-2003, 05:39 PM
:roll:
Hmm, as a college student I'm still able to swing the prices for Neo. It's really no excuse.
Gunstarhero
09-21-2003, 06:21 PM
Why dont you buy the real fucking thing.
Because buying the real ****ing thing will force me to take a mortgage out on my secret underwater chateau. I'll stick to roms, thanks. :P
Yet another case of the 'I want something for nothing' disease thats taken over our once great nation.
Ed Oscuro
09-21-2003, 06:29 PM
d'oh! I guess I'll have to be punished by the net police.
...no chance there's a King looklike in there is there? 8-)
No chance. Well, maybe...last time I checked Neuromancer, though, everybody from the Turing Institute was French. Maybe a sort of modern-day French Jean d' Arc, maybe.
That said...not only did sarcasm get lost, but my witty remark went unnoticed! Oh, woe's me.
buttasuperb
09-21-2003, 07:49 PM
Because buying the real ****ing thing will force me to take a mortgage out on my secret underwater chateau. I'll stick to roms, thanks. :P
You can't afford it, too bad. I want a 1996 Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo with T-Tops, but I can't afford one. Do I go and steal one? No.
Stupid fuck.
Ed Oscuro
09-21-2003, 07:51 PM
What was that about sarcasm being lost? I'm afraid all this talk about knives entering the back of skulls is making it quite hard to find (I never realized that blood could travel UPWARDS, thus making earlier posts harder to read!)
Hah. I do think it's possible that he was being sarcastic, since he very likely has no secret underwater chateau :)
That said, I don't mind the fact that every single freaking Neo Geo - liking person out there is trying to get Neo Geo carts. What I mind is that SNK went out of business.
Still...it's a problem and the industry has to deal with it. Doesn't mean taking steps backwards or trying Boktai-type stunts, but it does mean making sure people pay for things.
Neo_Veteran
09-21-2003, 08:42 PM
Because buying the real ****ing thing will force me to take a mortgage out on my secret underwater chateau. I'll stick to roms, thanks. :P
You can't afford it, too bad. I want a 1996 Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo with T-Tops, but I can't afford one. Do I go and steal one? No.
Stupid fuck.
Took the words off the tip my tonge. 8-)
Griking
09-21-2003, 08:46 PM
Why is it such a crime that this guy asked for a link to roms? This very website hosts roms themself. On the other hand, the guys would probably have gotten a little better results not acting like such a warez kiddy
Ed Oscuro
09-21-2003, 08:56 PM
It brings out so many emotions...and bad memories of failed consoles.
Captain Wrong
09-22-2003, 12:39 AM
Why is it such a crime that this guy asked for a link to roms? This very website hosts roms themself. On the other hand, the guys would probably have gotten a little better results not acting like such a warez kiddy
I think you answered your own question.
Personally I don't care what people do, and I'm not going to say I don't have NeoGeo roms, but as another person who has managed to get the real thing without morgaging the house or spending an arm and a leg, the whole "I only play the roms because the real thing costs too much" line is bunk.
No, you're not going to find a Neo at Goodwill for $20 (though it's not entirely unheard of), but if you get a Neo plus a Phantom convertor, you can get into the Neo at prices close to current consoles. I think that's the problem. People have no problem paying $300 for a "new" console and $50 a game, but they have a problem when it's a early 90s console and games. That's my thing, I didn't buy an Xbox or Gamecube, I bought a Neo.
It's a matter of priorities. Coming from someone who used to use the "I can't afford it" excuse, I can tell you it can be done if you really want to.
jaydubnb
09-22-2003, 01:43 AM
Why is it such a crime that this guy asked for a link to roms? This very website hosts roms themself. On the other hand, the guys would probably have gotten a little better results not acting like such a warez kiddy
I think you answered your own question.
Personally I don't care what people do, and I'm not going to say I don't have NeoGeo roms, but as another person who has managed to get the real thing without morgaging the house or spending an arm and a leg, the whole "I only play the roms because the real thing costs too much" line is bunk.
No, you're not going to find a Neo at Goodwill for $20 (though it's not entirely unheard of), but if you get a Neo plus a Phantom convertor, you can get into the Neo at prices close to current consoles. I think that's the problem. People have no problem paying $300 for a "new" console and $50 a game, but they have a problem when it's a early 90s console and games. That's my thing, I didn't buy an Xbox or Gamecube, I bought a Neo.
It's a matter of priorities. Coming from someone who used to use the "I can't afford it" excuse, I can tell you it can be done if you really want to.
I agree with this post.
For the guy looking for "teh romz", I bought a NEO last last year after a good decade of lusting after the machine and it didnt break my pockets. Some of the older classics like Sam Shodown 2 and Fatal Fury Special can be had under $30 each.
nesuser2
09-22-2003, 02:08 AM
i think roms are ok, i have a bunch of roms......but i still pay countless amounts of money for the real stuff. if i'm going to sit down and play the stuff i emulate....i buy it. i just don't feel complete without it. roms just hold me over until i do buy it, which is usually a couple weeks if i actually play it. but i also agree that you don't have to bust down the door and ask for roms like this is a warez site. and the i'm too broke to afford it line......no...no you're not.......too lazy? too tight with your money? not simple enough?(finding it, not you as a person.)........these could all be reasons why you don't go get the real thing. deliver papers, cut grass, rake leaves, shovel snow......if you're too young to be hired......do oddjobs that are under the table kind of jobs.....they'll likely pay the same as fast food. and once you are able to afford something you'll appreciate it alot more.
furthermore on me having roms, i have thousands of nes roms with a number of emulators to run them on just about everything......but you don't see me rushing out and selling all my games and my top loader. own what you play......emulate to try things out if you want and even as backup or stuff that can consume less space, but own it and store it away if you like, just own it.
buttasuperb
09-22-2003, 03:30 AM
I won't lie either, I have teh Neo Geo romzzzzz.
I also have close to 40 MVS carts, and 1 homecart (with another on the way)
The last time I played teh romz, was to play a round of Neo Turf Masters, when I already had the MVS cart on the way.
I won't lie about this either. If I was passed the link to the SvC rom (which I'm pretty sure is out there already) I would download it and play it. Which isn't a problem to me considering I've spent money on the game in the arcade, and put down way more money than that, and have the homecart on preorder.
Romz are great for testing out games before you buy (even MVS collecting isn't all that cheap) but it's 2 types of people that piss me off with romzz. Those who sell them, and those who just play nothing but romzzzzz, and say "Why should I buy the real game, when I can just play the rom for free"
Gunstarhero
09-22-2003, 07:20 AM
I won't lie either, I don't play ROMS. Not that I'm trying to ride on a high horse, but there isn't a single excuse on playing ROMS that I find justifiable. They are all pretty lame reasons for playing games for free. All the same, I don't download movies or music from the net either.
-I can't afford it: Ok, let us all justify theft on luxury items based on the fact that I can't afford it. Just because I can't afford it, doesn't mean I should do without it. :roll:
-ROMS are a great way to try games before you buy them: We will say anything to convince ourselves that playing ROMS is ok won't we? NEO GEO is consistently brought up with this excuse because the games are so expensive. Yet this excuse isn't convincing to me either considering the way NEO games hold their value. Buy it, if you don't like it, sell it for the same money.
-This site has ROMS!: so, doesn't mean everyone on this site agrees or uses them. Or, "I'll justify my bad behavior by others bad behavior"
-I'm not going to buy games when I can play them for free: The worst person, yet the only one who is being honest about ROMS.
I don't hold anything against people using ROMS, but on a personal level I don't use them or agree with them. We all make our own decisions. It's not an issue that will make me hate anyone really. It should be something you keep to yourself. When it surfaces publically, "I WANT THE ROMZ" then I'll flame you.
Ed Oscuro
09-22-2003, 08:10 AM
I need to clarify that I'm one of the "no" votes, and my reasons are simple.
Whenever I can I buy (or try really hard...I tried to get the Japanese Shadow Dancer and Daimakaimura PCBs for months) and I never give up and say "oh, that'll never be possible, so it's just to ROMs for me." There's no excuse for me not to own ANY home cartridges, no matter how expensive. I admit that since I didn't have a single video game console as a child so most games (with the exception of N64 and later consoles besides the GBA) I've played were through emulation first. Does this make a difference? Well, it's illegal, but am I stealing profits from them?
By nature I'm a rather shifty sort and I like to wait until things go down in price, but I don't refuse to buy games from stores, either. I'll make exceptions for games that I think I'd really like and while I travel to the mall infrequently, I might slap down some money just to get a new game., A few times I've bought new games 'cause I liked the brand name (most people do this anyways, but consider I bought the new PS2 Shinobi without owning a PS2). I don't buy compilation disks but I certainly don't mind companies trying to make money off their older titles, and I DO mind the fact that some folks out there don't buy even their favorite titles. With me, I feel that if I've played it to any extent in emulation, I'm supposed to buy it.
That said, there's no difference legally between owning the actual cart and owning a ROM -- if you didn't dump that ROM. The "24 hours to delete the ROM" rule is crap and is contrary to what the law states; it was invented by abandonware/ROM site hosts to salve people's moral conscience but has no legal foundation.
ROMs, in my view, are mostly good fo checking out facts and comparisons. Since I've gotten a real SNES I've played very little on my emulator. So there's your final word.
buttasuperb
09-22-2003, 10:58 AM
-ROMS are a great way to try games before you buy them: We will say anything to convince ourselves that playing ROMS is ok won't we? NEO GEO is consistently brought up with this excuse because the games are so expensive. Yet this excuse isn't convincing to me either considering the way NEO games hold their value. Buy it, if you don't like it, sell it for the same money.
Sorry, but buying a $300 dollar game, not liking it, then trying to sell it again is a little too much hassle for me. I've had similar situations where I bought a game, then decided to sell it a few months later, and either got less than I paid, or would have to wait a month to find a buyer willing to pay my asking price. You can't rent Neo Geo games. And that isn't finding any excuse to convince myself romzzzz are fine and dandy, it's just being smart.
That doesn't justify romz, but when someone buys a Neo Geo because of the rom they played, that's great.
But like I said, I've spent a whole shit load of money on Neo Geo games, so what anyone thinks about my limited usage of romz doesn't matter to me. I will continue to play and get more games for MVS and homecart. In fact, I doubt I'll ever play teh romzzzz again (unless someone send me that SvC rom LOL )
Gunstarhero
09-22-2003, 01:31 PM
buttasuperb wrote:
Sorry, but buying a $300 dollar game, not liking it, then trying to sell it again is a little too much hassle for me. I've had similar situations where I bought a game, then decided to sell it a few months later, and either got less than I paid, or would have to wait a month to find a buyer willing to pay my asking price. You can't rent Neo Geo games. And that isn't finding any excuse to convince myself romzzzz are fine and dandy, it's just being smart.
Well, its a rather touchy subject, especially concerning SNK and the NeoGeo isn't it? Would SNK have gone bankrupt had people bought the games instead of downloaded the roms? I can't wait for my copy of SvC:Chaos, but I just water at the mouth with the thought of how awesome this game would be had the original SNK staff developed the game as opposed to Playmore. I don't know the full extent to why SNK went out of business, but I'm sure ROM dumping and cart bootlegging were the major problem, especially seeing as how SvC:Chaos is on a jamma PCB instead of an MVS cart, an obvious attempt to stall the dumping of the ROM, nothing more.
It doesn't matter what the excuse is that someone uses to justify their ROM usage, the end result is the same: The support of ROM dumping and bootlegging. The guy who wants to just play the game for free, and the guy who wants to test the game before he buys it, whats the difference, they both use ROMS in the end. The ROM dumpers don't know who's using them, they just know how many downloads they get.
Is this something that I hold against you butta, or anyone else? No. This isn't even a battle that I consider a worthy fight. I can't stop it whatsoever, its just an argument for arguments sake. I don't support ROM dumping or Emulation, thats as far as I take it. Just wanted to let you guys know my stance, just like Ed and others let us know theirs. :)
Captain Wrong
09-22-2003, 01:40 PM
Not to get into this as I respect your position as a personal preference sort of thing, but...
Would SNK have gone bankrupt had people bought the games instead of downloaded the roms?
yeah, I think they would have. I think SNK was in trouble before ROMS started poping up. I may have my timeline wrong, but I think the ROMS started gaining popularity after the NeoGeo console was no longer avaliable as a new item.
"Who killed SNK?" is another topic we could debate for days. Let's not. :P
1bigmig
09-22-2003, 01:58 PM
mayb cuz im to poor and to young to get a job that will pay enuf! :P
VVat5 a t0p 7od3r???????????????????????????
buttasuperb
09-22-2003, 02:10 PM
Is this something that I hold against you butta, or anyone else? No. This isn't even a battle that I consider a worthy fight. I can't stop it whatsoever, its just an argument for arguments sake. I don't support ROM dumping or Emulation, thats as far as I take it. Just wanted to let you guys know my stance, just like Ed and others let us know theirs. :)
You know, I was just thinking 'Why the hell do I constantly argue about romzzzzzzzz? I enjoy playing the real deal, what's the point in arguing over and over again about teh romzzzzz' So I'm done with this argument, although anytime someone posts "wer r teh romzzzzz at, i kant fin dem 2 doenlod?" I will probably crack some unwitty joke.
Well, it's good to know there are some other avid Neo Geo gamers/collectors around here, who enjoy playing a CART.
Anytime anyone wants to discuss the Neo and Neo gameplay, I'm around. :)
orrimarrko
09-22-2003, 04:10 PM
Man this post is funny.
I don't really have an opinion either way in regards to ROMS. I will ALWAYS choose the real thing over a ROM, but hey, that's just me.
Also, if Person X plays ROMS, and then someday gets enough money to buy the real thing, great. So, I don't fault people for using what's available out there.
I see ROMS as no different from downloading music or movies or free porn! :D Doesn't make it legal, but doesn't mean that people won't do it anyway.
HOWEVER - I can appreciate the FLAMES for posting the question - and in this forum, of all places. I'm pretty sure that it says somewhere on the Main Foum page something about ROMS...
Either way, the post and poser-boy grammar entitles everyone to 1 free flame, based on the merits of the post alone. :D :D
Flame on...
Ed Oscuro
09-22-2003, 04:31 PM
Flame on: the official catchphrase of the Video Game Discussion Battlezone! :D
Well, I'd have to agree with Butta. I take it a bit further--though I've got a nice RGB or Composite compatible Neo Geo system (one of the low serial # models that actually display right) and an RGB monitor, I don't feel that hauling out a game system that I paid approximately half again or double the value for is really worth the time or trouble.
I would have to agree with Butta -- I try to stretch my money as far as possible, and that precludes buying every Neo Geo game. There ARE bad Neo Geo games out there, and there are a couple KoF games in particular that have big problems. Now I hate Samurai Spirits/Shodown 3, but I own the Japanese copy simply so I can say I own the whole series...but beyond that example I don't buy games I don't like.
It's reasonable to expect that you should be able to demo a game -- if for a very short period of time -- so you don't get ripped off. I don't see how my keeping a ROM and using it for a couple minutes (must be old, though) is any different than going in a store and trying out a demo kiosk or M81 selectable game system. Legally, I see the difference, but rationally, the supposed injustice done is hardly evident. If anything, letting younger folks (such as myself) witness a bit of the glory that are old games is a positive thing and is a form of free PR. While I'm not sure if many classic game series have the fire and focus that they used to in their modern DVD incarnations, I don't feel bad at all if some kid claims he's a SNK fan when he hasn't bought a single game yet -- maybe someday he'll plunk a few pieces of eight in a lonely MVS or even buy a game or art book to put on his shelf.
Emulating new stuff...again, I like to try stuff before I buy it, though I've done this with scarce few modern titles; and of those, there's only one I haven't bought (and I've never emulated the GBA Super Ghouls'n Ghosts). I don't mind at all if some company doesn't get my money, or anybody's money for that matter, when they release some turgid GBA remake of a classic console game without putting the proper time into it. Companies aren't exempt from the curse of wanting to get stuff for no investment, and more companies should put up websites or push stores to have demos of their games playing so people can try 'em out.