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christianscott27
10-05-2003, 06:41 PM
i've used deathskull labs a lot over the years for power supply questions but it has fallen behind the times in terms of newer and more exotic consoles. hardly a week goes by on these boards where somebody isnt posting a power supply question. instead of giving them 3 or 4 often contradicting answers in the forums how about we make a list and have it "peer reviewed". by that i mean a list that you can trust, one that wont maybe fry your console if you follow.

i think i'll start researching this and throw up some initial data, i encourgae everyone else to do the same :)

NoahsMyBro
10-05-2003, 11:19 PM
Your post gave me an idea --

Deathskull Labs should be mirrored. In my experience it seems mirroring is usually done for bandwidth-related reasons, but I'd hate to see Deatghskull Labs go away. It's a terrific resource, and I'd hate to see the site go down for whatever reason (Jay loses interest, takes his ball and goes home after some unforeseen squabble, is run over by a bus, can no longer afford to run the site, system crashes and he has no backup, whatever...).

Well, I'm off to seek out a method of archiving an entire website. I think I'll also send Jay an email askiing him if he has a problem with me archiving his site.

-- Steve

christianscott27
10-05-2003, 11:37 PM
well seeing as how jay laid the groundwork for a power supply page it might be good just to see if we can build out from his work? i've never found anything on his list to incorrect, it just needs to include more systems to cover the wide world of game collecting.

just think of all the questions that arise, i've seen more sega power supply posts than i can remember, and what about stuff like the turbo duo and so on. can you use a saturn ps on a dreamcast and on it goes.

there needs to be a good list somewhere and this seems like the most logical spot. i guess TV out cables would be a logical addition, and then controllers... i thought this idea was so obvious i even checked this site to see if it already existed.

during the day tomorrow i'll start digging some facts up.

digitalpress
10-13-2003, 02:45 PM
Deathskull Labs should be mirrored. In my experience it seems mirroring is usually done for bandwidth-related reasons, but I'd hate to see Deatghskull Labs go away. It's a terrific resource, and I'd hate to see the site go down for whatever reason (Jay loses interest, takes his ball and goes home after some unforeseen squabble, is run over by a bus, can no longer afford to run the site, system crashes and he has no backup, whatever...).

I never thought to mirror his entire site, but the power supply page has been copied and is also archived here at Digital Press (see our FAQ page, http://www.digitpress.com/faq.htm ).

christianscott27
10-16-2003, 11:32 AM
time to get this project moving, i've added some power ratings, these are gleaned from my own collection and not online sources so i can attest to their accuracy in that respect. my additions to jay's list are in red. please review the listings, feel free to comment or re-edit them in your post, lets refine this list as we go. there are still a lot of holes on this list to be filled, if you have any additional hardware on hand to add please do.

magnavox 450 CDI
+5V DC 3.3A
-5V DC 0.25A
plug type unique phone jack like plug
polarity NA

Turbo Duo
10V DC 1000mA
plug type coaxial
polarity center positive

Nintendo 64
DC 3.3V 2.7A
DC 12V O.8A
plug type unique 6 pin power pak

ATARI LYNX model II
DC 9V 3.0w
plug type small coaxial center negative

Neo Geo Pocket
DC 3V
plug type micro coaxial center positive

Turbo express
DC 7V center positive coaxial

Sega Game Gear and Nomad
Rating 9VDC, 1A
Plug type coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity Center negative
Alternative Atari Jaguar
TurboGrafx-16

Game.com (model 1)
rating DC 6V 0.48W
adaptor= 9V DC 300mA coaxial


Atari 2600 Rating 9VDC, 500mA
Plug type 1/8" phone
Polarity Tip positive
Alternative All atari-made models of the 2600 have compatible power supplies.

Atari 5200 Rating 4-port: 9.3VDC, 1.95A
2-port: 11.5VDC, 1.95A
Plug type coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity Center positive
Alternative The power supply for both the 2-port and 4-port are identical and completely interchangeable, even though the plates indicate different ratings.

Atari 7800 Rating 9VDC, 1A
Plug type unique
Polarity
Alternative Nothing I can think of

Atari 2800 / Sears Video Arcade II Rating 10VAC, 750mA
Plug type coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity n/a
Alternative Atari 5200
Atari Jaguar
SMS / Genesis
TurboGrafx-16

Atari Video Pinball Rating 9VDC, 500mA
Plug type 1/8" phone
Polarity Tip positive
Alternative Atari 2600

Atari 600XL, 800XL, 65XE Rating Regulated 5VDC, 1.5A
Plug type 7-pin DIN

Pinout 4 1 6 = +5VDC
5 3 7 = GND
2 = no connection
Alternative none
Important notes This power supply has its own regulation. Do not try to power the console with an unregulated power supply.

Atari Jaguar Rating 9VDC, 1.2A
Plug type coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity Center negative
Alternative TurboGrafx-16

APF M1000, APF MP1000 Rating 7.5VAC, 800mA
Plug type ?
Polarity ?
Alternative ?

ColecoVision Rating Regulated 5VDC, .9A
Regulated -5VDC, .1A
Regulated 12VDC, .3A
Plug type Weird
4 1

3 2



Pinout 1: +5V (white)
2: -5V (blue)
3: +12V (red)
4: GND (black)
Alternative Nothing on this planet. Don't even think of plugging a TI99/4A power supply into it.

Emerson Arcadia 2001 Rating 12VDC, 600mA
Plug type coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity Center positive
Alternative Atari 5200 (loose fit, though)

Magnavox Odyssey˛ Rating 11.5VAC, 400mA
Plug type Early: 1/8" phone
Later: coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity n/a
Alternative Early: Atari 2600
Later: Atari 5200, NES

Intellivision II
or

Entertainment Computer System
Rating 16.7VAC, 1A
Plug type coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity n/a
Alternative Atari 5200
Atari Jaguar
TurboGrafx-16
Notes That 16.7V jazz is utter horseshit. I can't believe people go to such extreme measures to find a substitute power supply for these things. It's actual power requirements are about as generic as they get.

NEC TurboGrafx-16 Rating 10.5VDC, 730mA
Plug type coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity Center negative
Alternative SMS / Genesis

Nintendo NES Rating 9VAC, 1.3A
Plug type coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity n/a
Alternative Atari 5200
Atari Jaguar
TurboGrafx-16

Nintendo SNES Rating 10VDC, 850mA
Plug type coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity Center positive
Alternative none

Sega Master System Rating 9VDC, 1A
Plug type coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity Center negative
Alternative Atari Jaguar
TurboGrafx-16

Scoots
10-16-2003, 12:00 PM
The Genesis 2 power supply also works for the Game Gear (and I think the 32X and Sega CD but I don't have those in front of me right now to check).

christianscott27
10-16-2003, 12:18 PM
Virtual Boy
DC 9V 500mA
plug type- clamp on power pak

Sega 32x
DC 10V 0.85A
plug type coaxial center positive
(genesis apt model #2103)

Sega CD (frontloader)
9VDC, 12A
Plug type coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity Center negative

christianscott27
10-16-2003, 12:43 PM
gleaned from online sources, would prefer a first hand verification-

Action Max -- 9V DC 500Ma Positive Tip or 4 C Batteries

Leisure-Vision -- 12V DC 500Ma Positive Tip

JVC x-eye --9.5V DC 1.5A Positive Tip

TurboGrafx-16 + CD Unit -- 11V DC 1.53A Negative Tip

Gameboy -- 6V DC Negative Tip

Game Boy Color -- 3V DC 300Ma

Nintendo Gamecube -- 12 V DC 3.25A Nonstandard Connector

Sega CD II -- 9V DC 1.2A Negative Tip

Sega Channel -- 15V DC 400Ma Positive Tip

Sega Pico -- 10V DC 0.85A Positive Tip

Supervision -- 6V DC 350mA

saturn, dreamcast playstation 1- indications are that all 3 cords are interchangable as the power conversion is done inside the console, hence no brick. however i have noticed that all saturn cords are rounded in the same way.

all of this info was cut n' pasted from
http://www.geocities.com/cpepin1976/voltages.txt

if you have any of this hardware on hand, take a second to double check it.

Anonymous
10-16-2003, 02:20 PM
TurboGrafx-16 + CD Unit -- 11V DC 1.53A Negative Tip
This is correct. Does anybody know of any suitable alternative Power supplies? Also, just to clarify Negative tip means the center is negative.

I can also verify the following:

JVC x-eye --9.5V DC 1.5A Positive Tip

Game Boy Color -- 3V DC 300Ma

Nintendo Gamecube -- 12 V DC 3.25A Nonstandard Connector

The following have internal Power Supplies, and require a Power Cord which differentiates ground (like the PSX power cord, where one of the holes on the end is square and one is round).

Saturn
Dreamcast
Playstation (Not PSOne)
Phillips CDI 220
Xbox (doesn't require a ground differentiating power cord)

Ed Oscuro
10-16-2003, 02:46 PM
New stuff for the list, no idea if it's there already but here we go:

Panasonic FS-A1 MSX2 Adapter:

Unique male end connector: instead of prongs, there's three holes. Plug shape is odd, sort of like a triangle affixed to a square. Prongs are really tough stuff, so if they're bent (like mine) you won't be able to bend them back.

From the label:

AC ADAPTOR FS-AA51
(input, I believe; label for this entry is in Japanese) AC100V 50/60Hz 23VA
(output) DC9V 1.2A
AC18V 170mA

Sega Nomad power adapter

Odd end to the plug that fits in the Nomad with yellow tip; little spot in the center with a keyhole shaped space. From the label:

Model MK-2103
Input: 120V AC 60Hz 15W
Output: 10V DC 0.85A

(-)--(C--(+)

(How do I read this shorthand?)

Philips CD-i 370 ("handheld" unit)

Box-on-a-cord style; plug is rounded on one end and flat on the other. From the label:

AC/DC Adapter Model 22ER9159/17
Input: AC 120V, 50/60Hz, 45W
Output: 21V === [Similar to that but the top line is connected all across) 1.7A

That's all I've got in the way of even slightly unusual plugs.

Sorry for the lack of more technically comprehensible language but that's the best I can do.

Anonymous
10-16-2003, 02:50 PM
(-)--(C--(+)

(How do I read this shorthand?)
You read that as Center Positive, or Positive Tip.

christianscott27
10-17-2003, 01:15 AM
PS1 (the small playstation)
DC 7.5V center positive coaxial

Tomy Tron Handheld, tomy caveman (tandy caveman lists 6V??), tomy pac man, tomy scramble
7.5V DC 200mA
coaxial center negaitve 2.1mm

sega pods-
DC 10V 0.85A
plug type coaxial center positive
(genesis apt model #2103)

christianscott27
10-17-2003, 10:34 AM
Game Doctor SFIII by Bung SNES/SFC Backup Unit
Rating 9VDC, 1A
Plug type coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity Center negative
Alternative Atari Jaguar
TurboGrafx-16

Mega Drive 1:
Sega model # 1602-5
Input: 240V ~ 50Hz
Output 10V ---- 1.2A
Outside Positive, inside Negative.

Mega Drive 2:
Sega model # 1636-5
Input: 240V ~ 50Hz
Output 10V ---- 850mA
Outside Negative, inside Positive.

APF-M1000 & MP1000
7.5V AC/0.8 Amp or 12V DC/0.5 amp

APF Imagination Machine
13.8V AC/1.25 Amp

RCA Studio II
note DC power is taken thru the TV switchbox
9V dc at 300mA (or you can use 250mA)female socket.

Odyssey 4000
9VDC, tip positive
small mono plug type

christianscott27
10-20-2003, 09:29 AM
JVC X-eye
9.5V DC
coaxial center positive
subs- yellow tipped genesis 2 PS

NoahsMyBro
10-21-2003, 12:10 AM
Now see, this is just annoying. I could swear I read somewhere online a few years ago that the AC Adapter plug Atari used on the 7800 power supply WAS IDENTICAL to the connector on a relatively common cordless phone battery, thereby allowing a person to splice the connector from the battery onto a different AC Adapter. You could easily find the battery, easily find a Power Supply with the correct specs, and just splice the connector on.

Now, of course, I can't find the info anywhere! I want to say the cordless phone battery was for a Panasonic, but that's simply my recollection, and I could easily be mistaken.

NoahsMyBro
10-21-2003, 12:48 AM
In a 7800 FAQ (http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/a2600/file/atari_2600_5200_7800.txt) I found this:



7800

Input: 120VAC 60Hz 15W
Output: 9VDC 1Amp
Polarity:

_
-----| |-----
- | o o | +
-------------

[looking into the power supply]

If you cannot find a 7800 power supply but are comfortable with a
soldering iron, one possibility is to find similar connectors and
solder them onto a more easily-found power supply. Mitchell Orman
(Msorman@aol.com) suggests using an end connector from an old cordless
phone battery. For the one he procured, the part was made by Philmore
and is the Panasonic type #BC1000. Caution: the connector will plug in
to the 7800 either direction so one needs to mark polarity correctly.

christianscott27
10-21-2003, 12:59 AM
from the AA 7800 FAQ-

# What power supply does the 7800 use and where can I get one?
Unfortunately, the 7800 uses a proprietary power supply that you cannot buy off the shelf. You can find the correct power specs, but the physical tip is proprietary. Here are the specs:

Input: 120VAC 60Hz 15W
Output: 9VDC 1Amp
Polarity: Looking into the power supply, negative is on the left, positive on the right:

_
___| |___
- | 0 0 | +
|_________|


If you cannot find a 7800 power supply but are comfortable with a soldering iron, one possibility is to find similar connectors and solder them onto a more easily-found power supply. Try using an end connector from an old cordless phone battery. Caution: the connector will plug in to the 7800 either direction so one needs to mark polarity correctly.

Another possibility is to buy a more standard jack and just solder it in parallel with the original connector, then buy a power supply at Radio Shack for a few bucks.

One good place to solder alternate power connections is to the two joints on the underside of the board, located near the original power plug (the polarity is easy to follow because the traces from the power and to the barrel capacitor are polarity-marked). Either an external jack (1/8" mono) can be run through the old jack's hole (or a vent hole) -or- an internal jack can be installed where convenient such as the thick "strut" near the original hole or on the right side (when facing the unit for play). You can use a 2600 power supply; the only difference is half an amp, which the techies say doesn't matter much.

FABombjoy
10-21-2003, 08:26 AM
A much simpler substitute is to use a 2 pin female connector used in PCs to connect the power LEDs, reset switch, etc to the motherboard. Perfect fit, and a lot easier than hunting down some obscure phone battery.

Be sure to mark it with the correct orientation. Once you plug it in, you'll have time to turn on the console to ensure that you've plugged it in right. If the power LED doesn't turn on, change the plug orientation and try again. If you plug it in backwards and leave it there, even if you don't try and turn the console on, within a few minutes you will hear a *BANG* and smoke will rise from the console.

The replacement value of the exploding cap is 2200uF@16V.

FABombjoy
10-21-2003, 10:23 AM
I was thinking of a layout something like...

this (http://labwww.csv.cmich.edu/luke/videogames/PSlist.htm)

omnedon
10-21-2003, 02:27 PM
@FABombjoy

What a remarkably vivid description of the aftermath of a polarity error with a 7800. I think I'll take your word for it.....
LOL

Duncan
10-23-2003, 09:28 PM
The replacement value of the exploding cap is 2200uF@16V.

That, by itself, was hilarious as the punchline.

By the way, the new PSone (the smaller, lighter version of the old PSX) uses a new 9V-DC adapter in place of the former internal unit. I'll grab the specs off it later...

Duncan :D

siamese
01-06-2005, 09:05 AM
ATARI LYNX model II
DC 9V 3.0w
plug type small coaxial center negative


Sega Game Gear and Nomad
Rating 9VDC, 1A
Plug type coaxial ??mm/??mm
Polarity Center negative
Alternative Atari Jaguar
TurboGrafx-16




my atari lynx 1 comes labeled at the back showing center POSITIVE
is the PSU for the Lynx 2 different polarity?

The sega Game Gear part 2103-1 Psu
is rated 10 VDC 0.85A center Positive
you can use it with a 32x and a Sega Genesis 2 and 3 consoles

O_O @_@ let it burn! use the polarity issue carefully

Tokimemofan
10-17-2005, 07:13 PM
Sega cd 1&2, Sega Genesis 1, and Sega Master Syetem
MK-1602 center - ?V ?A or MK-1602-1 center - 10V 1.2A

Sega Game Gear, Sega 32X Sega Genesis 2
MK-2103 center + 10V 0.85A

PS-ONE
SCPH-113 center + 7.5V 2.0A

PS-ONE LCD combo
SCPH-121 center + 7.5V 3.0A

Slimline Playstation 2
SCPH-70100 center + 8.5V 5.65A

PSP
PSP-100 center + 5V 2A

SkiDragon
10-18-2005, 03:43 AM
[quote=christianscott27]TurboGrafx-16 + CD Unit -- 11V DC 1.53A Negative Tip
This is correct. Does anybody know of any suitable alternative Power supplies? Also, just to clarify Negative tip means the center is negative.


I am using a Sega Master System power supply for my TG-16 right now.

lincoln174
10-20-2005, 03:57 AM
Is there any way that I can get/make an Atari 5200 power supply for 240V zone? Thanks for your help.

Avatard
10-20-2005, 05:38 PM
Nintendo DS

Adaptor
DC 5.2v 320mA
Plug is an interesting makup. There appear to be 6 different contacts on the DS, only 2 are used by the AC adaptor.

Battery
5.2v 1.6W

SkiDragon
10-20-2005, 07:28 PM
Im pretty sure the DS and SP supply/chargers are interchamgeable. At least, I hope so, because I have been interchanging them for a while.

Tokimemofan
10-25-2005, 06:33 PM
Nintendo DS and Gameboy Advance SP adaptors interchangable, nintendo states that on their web site.

Tron2005
12-15-2005, 03:13 AM
The replacement value of the exploding cap is 2200uF@16V.

That, by itself, was hilarious as the punchline.

By the way, the new PSone (the smaller, lighter version of the old PSX) uses a new 9V-DC adapter in place of the former internal unit. I'll grab the specs off it later...

Duncan :D

I agree with Duncan that was an hilarious punch line...

also an alternative for an NES power supply is using one off of an older 33.6 or 28,8 Usrobotics external modem its got the right power ratings and the right plug

Syzygyst
10-03-2007, 12:14 AM
Output: 21V === [Similar to that but the top line is connected all across)Like this?:
_____
- - -That's the symbolic representation for DC, getting to be fairly common these days.

digitalpress
12-02-2007, 02:33 PM
This is correct. Does anybody know of any suitable alternative Power supplies? Also, just to clarify Negative tip means the center is negative.

Annual bump.

Does anyone know of an alternative power supply for a TurboGrafx-16 CD unit?

Mason P.
11-13-2009, 03:20 PM
[quote="Anotherfluke"]
This is correct. Does anybody know of any suitable alternative Power supplies? Also, just to clarify Negative tip means the center is negative.


I am using a Sega Master System power supply for my TG-16 right now.


I am having the same issue. I need to know what to use to replace a TG-16 w/ CD power cord.

kemmer
12-21-2009, 05:54 PM
[QUOTE=SkiDragon;824781]


I am having the same issue. I need to know what to use to replace a TG-16 w/ CD power cord.

sorry if this is a dumb question, but is the TG-16 w/ cd different from a normal tg-16? I have been using a genesis ps for my TG-16 for ages.

Mason P.
03-16-2010, 04:35 PM
[QUOTE=Mason P.;1640162]

sorry if this is a dumb question, but is the TG-16 w/ cd different from a normal tg-16? I have been using a genesis ps for my TG-16 for ages.

the Genesis power supply will power a TG-16. Just not a TG-16 with its cd drive.

thegamezmaster
10-20-2013, 04:23 PM
It sure would be nice to have a list that covered all video game consoles from the very beginning starting from Pong to the present. None left out. Power and amp rating would be great too. An example is the one's that also ran off batteries. Easy to figure volts but nothing on amps.

ninjistar
10-24-2013, 05:03 PM
It sure would be nice to have a list that covered all video game consoles from the very beginning starting from Pong to the present. None left out. Power and amp rating would be great too. An example is the one's that also ran off batteries. Easy to figure volts but nothing on amps.

I definitely agree with you, thegamezmaster.

Aside from the info in this thread, Is this the most up-to-date list? http://www.digitpress.com/library/techdocs/powersupply.htm