Gamcube sales jump

[kai123]

http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/gamecubebestsellerinus.shtml

What do you think? Nintendo might claim the number 2 spot. Please no Fanboys thanks.

[jaybird]

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20075&highlight=gamecube

[kai123]

whoops :embarrassed:

[nesuser2]

as more of a reaction to this particular article.............

#1
i hope microsoft doesn't cut it's prices.........plz don't LOL

#2
wouldn't you call this jumping the gun.......obviously sales are going to spike with a price drop like that

#3
it's releases for this winter WILL help them in my opinion. but as stated in another thread that their promotional tactics may have them singing the blues if they don't approach it right.

#4
while it may seem as if i'm not a great big nintendo fan at this point in my post, i am. i really love nintendo and actually.......i really hate sony. it's an equipment ordeal and the only reason i like xbox is the emulation end of the console. and i firmly believe that if nintendo dug it's way back into the picture(3rd place doesn't cut it when that is last, 2nd would be good) then they will produce better titles on a more timely basis because they will get more software support. PS2 and Xbox have a lot of good titles but it's hard to dig through the trash titles sometimes.

GO NINTENDO!! :D

[RCM]

I am glad that Nintendo is getting what it deserves. The Gamecube is a great system. The next generation is going to be where Nintendo has to really prove themselves. A distant second or third doesn't cut it. Nintendo and microsoft have to really challenge the PS3. This generation goes to Sony. Go Mario Go!!

RCM

[Mospeda]

No hatred. I own all three. In terms of class exclusive titles it's the GC all the way. I'm sorry Billy Gates but Voodoo Vince isn't gonna cut it.

[hezeuschrist]

I was reading Stuff Gamer at work last night (what a terrible magazine, by the way), and they had Hall of Fame for the current gen systems. I don't remember the GC one or the PS2 one, but the Xbox one really stuck out.

1.Halo (launch title)
2.Splinter Cell (multi platform)
3.KOTOR (Going to be on PC next month)
4.Jet-Set Radio Future (good game... but number 4 all time?)
5.I don't even remember, some crap.

MS has got to be hurting.

[can_dude]

as far as Im concerned nintendo's always been in the number two spot...It has lost money on the gamecube, sure, but only one tenth or something like that compared to microsoft...(if think nintendo was 35 mill in the whole to microsofts 500)...Now if we're going by total units sold...I doubt they will overcome, that is until the next gen systems come out...

[Captain Wrong]

Yeah, but the position of consoled isn't judged by how much money a company is losing, it's judged by how many units moved. Sure MS has lost more money on the Xbox but they've still beat Nintendo where it counts, in sales.

(sidenote, can anyone really say beyond the CW of "Nintendo doesn't lose money on consoles" if they have lost money or not on the GC? They aren't exactly going to trumpet something like that, and I honestly don't know if that information is made avaliable.)

[jaybird]

(sidenote, can anyone really say beyond the CW of "Nintendo doesn't lose money on consoles" if they have lost money or not on the GC? They aren't exactly going to trumpet something like that, and I honestly don't know if that information is made avaliable.)

I've read an interview one of the gaming magazines that quotes Nintendo as saying that they're still making money on the GameCube. They were saying Microsoft couldn't survive if they had to function under the same restraints as Nintendo (making money on consoles).

Which is true, but if MS wants to give us $350 worth of technology for $179, then more power to them.

[Anonymous]

Nintendo has posted it's first loss ever this quarter. A chunk of that came from consolidation and exchange rates, but a lot of it happened because of the gamecube. It's tough to say how much the gamecube is costing Nintendo, mainly because there are costs that are spread out over a long period of time. For example, do you include R&D costs of the gamecube? If so, then you have to include costs and salaries for all R&D costs for the 4 or 5 years prior to the GC actually being sold. New factories had to be built, so that initial cost has to be accounted for, then the cost per unit of course. Since Nintendo does make a profit on each system sold, that means that there will be a break-even point where the profit of systems sold equals the cost of pre-fab and R&D. Has Nintendo reached that breakeven? I don't know. But this is just the hardware side to consider. There is also operating costs, marketing, and development of software, not to mention R&D of the so called N5.

So. Obviously, sales of Nintendo's HW and SW were not enough to cover operating costs, and possibly long term costs (pre fab and R&D) this quarter, which means they lost money. In other words, the GC is making Nintendo money, it's just not making enough. The cost of maintaining Nintendo's structure and marketing is outweighing the amount of profit the GC is making. The fact that the GBA is making lots of profits just underscores the fact that the GC is not very profitable.

[Captain Wrong]

Thanks Nate. I was hoping you'd chime in as I figured you'd have something a little more than heresay and spectulation to add.

That's kind of what I thought I heard, but I didn't want to mention it until I knew for sure it was correct. That kind of suprizes me, as I thought the GBA would offset any loss they were taking on the GC. The situation sounds kind of like Sega during the Dreamcast days, except Sega didn't have a money making portable to help soften the blow a bit. The only other thing Sega had was the arcade side, and we all know what kind of shape the arcades are in these days.

[Sothy]

More people can experience the most excellent game ever made RESIDENT EVIL for Gamecube. It is Scrumtralescent.

[Ed Oscuro]

One thing, though...

XBOX has Tecmo, and I'm really looking forward to Ninja Gaiden.

PS2 has the two Shinobi games, and I'm looking forward to Nightblade.

I'm glad we started off with a "no fanboys, please" comment, but the fact remains that Nintendo's working with characters that've been in the mainstream for over 20 years (Up to 17 for the Famicom Disk System generation; i.e. Samus and Link). Nintendo doesn't have as many franchises working solely for them as they used to. That's natural, I think. I dearly miss Sega hardware but I feel there's little chance of Nintendo actually losing money with their new console.

Add in the factor that it appears Nintendo is the first to gain a Chinese userbase (even without any logo on that console) and things are looking good in their future. It's inevitable that they've lost ground over what they once were, but when you place a shark in a smaller pool, it grows smaller to compensate. The same is true of Nintendo: They know how much to invest and have a pretty good idea where to put it.

[kai123]

I think it is funny you mentioned two of the older franchise games out. I do realize that those games haven't had a new release in a while but I would rather play new franchises. Ratchet and Clank comes to mind.

[Ed Oscuro]

Well, more power to you, then.

I think that the classics have a lot to live up to and the attention around their releases can't hurt a bit. Perhaps Ratchet and Clank won't be bad at all, but with the classic franchises you're more or less guaranteed a good purchase. As a gamer, Ratchet and Clank means nothing to me. Are my tastes thus far-reaching? No, and I think it's safe to say that the average gamer is looking for some familiar faces in a crowd filled with over-the-top violence at one end, and egg-hatching youg boys or cats that have portavacs at the other.

Oh, and Shinobi has had a recent release, and I'm not counting that GBA port of Revenge of Shinobi (if...you can call it that, and not "murder"). Can you name it? It's the Playstation 2 Shinobi, unless you count that as "not recent."

[kai123]

Well of course it counts. What I am saying is that instead of the same old crap let's see something more creative out of these excellent developers(if you can call some of them that). It is alot like Hollywood nobody is willing to take a chance on a new thing.

[Ed Oscuro]

I wouldn't call Shinobi or Ninja Gaiden the same old crap. The basic premises behind video games don't change, do they? When you say "something more creative" what you mean is "let's see more new franchises." These old franchises are anything but stuck in the past--they're not even out yet, and they've got completely modern play mechanics.

[kai123]

Either way I see it one way and you see it another. We'll agree to disagree. All I want is games that are new and entertaining. I hear this everytime a new nintendo system comes out "where's mario?" I ask "where's something new?"

[kai123]

By the way don't get me wrong I love the old franchises as much as the next guy. I just don't want everybody to depend on the older stuff.

[Ed Oscuro]

Agreed, I think the debate concerning the lessening of Mario's use in the public (especially given how the brothers seem to have gotten a bad rep after Luigi's Mansion and Super Mario Sunshine) is warranted.