Wanting to buy a Neo Geo, but need some help

[wberdan]

hi,
i'm in the market for a neo geo, and would prefer to get an american system (for collecting sake). I was curious- what are good ball park figures i should expect to pay for the regular american system, the gold system and (god forbid ;) ) the japanese import version? i'd like to know how much they run compete if possible.

I couldn't really get a good idea from ebay- and neogeo.com seemed to be super high...

also, are there any other places besides ebay and neogeo.com to get these? im having a heck of a time..
any neo-buying tips would be appreciated.

thanks

willie

[jaydubnb]

To be honest, I have no idea of the going prices for the systems or what the different regions are worth. However, I can say that I got a Japanese AES for about $180 with Samurai Shodown II included.

Since you're avoiding eBay and neo-geo.com, check out http://www.videogamedepot.com . They have systems and games there are are reliable sellers.

[Ed Oscuro]

I paid over half a grand for mine, but I'm okay with that (seller needed the money, so knowing I helped 'im out means I = no regrets. And if any of you nasty sonsabitch types are reading this...that's not how I usually operate, so no getting ideas ;)

I wouldn't pay more than $200 for a system, and I would demand to know the serial number. I wouldn't get a system with a serial number over 150K because, as we've seen before, the newer systems have screwed up output that's supposed to help make the colors more vivid but also make the image streaky.

I would try gametz.com myself, as dealing with real people is nearly always superior to screwing around with one of these big, impersonal "plus a game of our choice" online ripoffs.

[jaydubnb]

I wouldn't pay more than $200 for a system, and I would demand to know the serial number. I wouldn't get a system with a serial number over 150K because, as we've seen before, the newer systems have screwed up output that's supposed to help make the colors more vivid but also make the image streaky.



Whoa is that true? Is this streakiness apparent on the standard a/v or with the RGB cable or with the S-vid mod?

[Gunstarhero]

Nah...even if that is true regarding Serial Numbers and video output, just remember that the Neo Geo has the absolute worst video output of any system on the market, regardless of serial number. The only way to get a good video signal from the AES is to have it modded for S-Video and Composite Video/Stereo.

@wberdan: If you are looking for an AES, then expect to pay somewhere around $150-$200 for a loose (unmodded) system, with a controller or two. If you get a complete system, then I'd say you'd be closing in on $300(maybe get a cheap game thrown in with that)...now if you want a system thats modified with S-Video and other stuff, you will most likely pay $350-$600...depending on how complete you get it(box, controllers etc...) it may seem salty, but theres really nothing about the Neo Geo thats cheap.

I would get one from the Neo Geo.com market forums, and not the NeoStore, as his prices for systems are really really high. However, he is also super reliable. Systems go for sale in the forums regularly for a good price. Hope you find something you like.

[Berserker]

what are good ball park figures i should expect to pay for the regular american system, the gold system and (god forbid ;) ) the japanese import version

actually aren't the japanese ones supposed to be uncensored in parts of certain games? or is that just bs

[jaydubnb]

what are good ball park figures i should expect to pay for the regular american system, the gold system and (god forbid ;) ) the japanese import version

actually aren't the japanese ones supposed to be uncensored in parts of certain games? or is that just bs

Yeah, the Jp models allow boobage bounce and blood. However a mod to the USA models will fix that.

[Ed Oscuro]

Nah...even if that is true regarding Serial Numbers and video output, just remember that the Neo Geo has the absolute worst video output of any system on the market, regardless of serial number. The only way to get a good video signal from the AES is to have it modded for S-Video and Composite Video/Stereo.

The second part is true, but I've seen a fairly good comparison which shows clearly that the later models have awful RGB--and that it affects composite as well.

I believe I found it somewhere at http://nfg.2y.net/games/ but I'm having trouble finding where that would be.

[Ed Oscuro]

Hmm, nevermind:

http://nfg.2y.net/games/neorgb/

The thrust of it:


These changes were subtle at first, but by about number 126,000 the changes drastically decreased the quality of the RGB output. The change was designed to increase the saturation of the composite video output, to allow for brighter, more vivid colours. This was achieved at the expense of the RGB's super-clear output (Which, it could be argued, very few people were using).

What this means to the consumer is simple: approximately 25% of the Neo Geo units produced have superior RGB output, the rest have marginally better composite video output and poor RGB. If you're serious about your Neo you want one of the first 90,000 units.

Or you want to make some serious mods to your system. Or you want an MVS with a Jamma Gear/Supergun. Or you don't use RGB. Or you really just want to play the games, not brag about them and admire the spines of the cart boxes on the shelf. In any case, I'm digressing.

[jaydubnb]

Hmm, nevermind:

http://nfg.2y.net/games/neorgb/

The thrust of it:


These changes were subtle at first, but by about number 126,000 the changes drastically decreased the quality of the RGB output. The change was designed to increase the saturation of the composite video output, to allow for brighter, more vivid colours. This was achieved at the expense of the RGB's super-clear output (Which, it could be argued, very few people were using).

What this means to the consumer is simple: approximately 25% of the Neo Geo units produced have superior RGB output, the rest have marginally better composite video output and poor RGB. If you're serious about your Neo you want one of the first 90,000 units.

Or you want to make some serious mods to your system. Or you want an MVS with a Jamma Gear/Supergun. Or you don't use RGB. Or you really just want to play the games, not brag about them and admire the spines of the cart boxes on the shelf. In any case, I'm digressing.


Something just came to me: I was playing Samurai Shodown II the other day and noticed that characters with mesh/fishnet types of clothing (ie Galford's arms) produce a rainbow effect. Is this the streaking that was spoken about? And yeah, I have a later model number (over 200,000).

[wberdan]

Hmm, nevermind:

http://nfg.2y.net/games/neorgb/

The thrust of it:


These changes were subtle at first, but by about number 126,000 the changes drastically decreased the quality of the RGB output. The change was designed to increase the saturation of the composite video output, to allow for brighter, more vivid colours. This was achieved at the expense of the RGB's super-clear output (Which, it could be argued, very few people were using).

What this means to the consumer is simple: approximately 25% of the Neo Geo units produced have superior RGB output, the rest have marginally better composite video output and poor RGB. If you're serious about your Neo you want one of the first 90,000 units.

Or you want to make some serious mods to your system. Or you want an MVS with a Jamma Gear/Supergun. Or you don't use RGB. Or you really just want to play the games, not brag about them and admire the spines of the cart boxes on the shelf. In any case, I'm digressing.


Something just came to me: I was playing Samurai Shodown II the other day and noticed that characters with mesh/fishnet types of clothing (ie Galford's arms) produce a rainbow effect. Is this the streaking that was spoken about? And yeah, I have a later model number (over 200,000).

i believe that is called "moire~" and is caused by using a composite or RF connection... moire is a distortion that is caused by running both the luminance and color signals down the same cord (i believe)

willie

[Ed Oscuro]

Hmm, nevermind:

http://nfg.2y.net/games/neorgb/

The thrust of it:


These changes were subtle at first, but by about number 126,000 the changes drastically decreased the quality of the RGB output. The change was designed to increase the saturation of the composite video output, to allow for brighter, more vivid colours. This was achieved at the expense of the RGB's super-clear output (Which, it could be argued, very few people were using).

What this means to the consumer is simple: approximately 25% of the Neo Geo units produced have superior RGB output, the rest have marginally better composite video output and poor RGB. If you're serious about your Neo you want one of the first 90,000 units.

Or you want to make some serious mods to your system. Or you want an MVS with a Jamma Gear/Supergun. Or you don't use RGB. Or you really just want to play the games, not brag about them and admire the spines of the cart boxes on the shelf. In any case, I'm digressing.


Something just came to me: I was playing Samurai Shodown II the other day and noticed that characters with mesh/fishnet types of clothing (ie Galford's arms) produce a rainbow effect. Is this the streaking that was spoken about? And yeah, I have a later model number (over 200,000).

(purposefully Ignoring wberdan)

Yes, I'd believe so. Looking at those shots you'll notice that the vertical line on the left side of the logo in the Japanese Amasuka's Revenge creates a wierd zipper type look to what should be just a straight line. While the effect may be what wberdan calls moire, I'm pretty sure the effect is pronounced due to the Neo's subpar output.

That said, note that the Neo Geo's composite is better in later models, not worse. It's just bad composite, period.

[buttasuperb]

I have a homecart system that I'll be selling once I get 100% confirmation SvC will be on a real MVS cart. I'm not sure if it's US or JPN, but it's modded with S-Video and stereo sound, altough the stereo sound doesn't work. It also has some sort of bios chip in it, I think you can choose the region you want to play on, and some other options. I haven't really messed around with it though. If I do sell, it would come with 2020 Baseball and a CD pad.

[Jive3D]

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[Anthony1]

I was thinking about getting a Neo Geo, the one with the CD player. Do the CD ones have any problem with RGB output?


Cause if I did get a Neo - Geo, it would be to play it on a RGB monitor in all it's glory.


Also, what do the CD ones go for, in terms of ballpark price?