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Anthony1
10-18-2003, 12:16 AM
Unfreaking believeable. I've been looking for a large RGB monitor for quite some time now. I have a Commodore 1084S-D1, which is a really great 13 inch RGB monitor, but it is afterall, just 13 inches. Well, I've been looking to get a 20 inch or larger RGB monitor for some time now.

After doing some research on it, I've discovered that Sony's PVM line of monitors is pretty damn ideal. They make a 20 inch, 25 inch and 32 inch RGB monitor that is considered "Studio Quality". In fact, PVM stands for Professional Video Monitor. I mean, these are the kinds of monitors that were used in TV Broadcast studios. We are talking absolute top of the line, back in the day, when these monitors first hit the scene.

Anyways, the models that I was focusing in on, were the Sony PVM 2030, the Sony PVM 2530, and the Sony PVM 3230. They are 20 inch, 25 inch and 32 inch respectively. Ultimately, I decided on the 25 inch model as being the best for my needs and space. So I sought after the elusive Sony PVM 2530. Well, Ebay is the best place to find these puppies, and they are on Ebay quite frequently. Usually, to get a PVM 2530, you would have to pay about 300 bucks or more, on your final bid, and then another 100 bucks or even more for shipping. These puppies weigh 116 pounds. So you're talking 400 bucks. But this is for a top of the line 25 inch, "Studio Quality", RGB monitor. So actually 400 bucks isn't that bad. Especially, when these monitors sold for Thousands of dollars brand new.

Well, here is the good part. I found one of these monitors for a "BUY IT NOW", with a price of $100.00.!!!!!! Yes, a buy it now for 100 bucks! The shipping was $109.15 to my address, but still, $209.15 for one of these monitors is absolutely amazing.

Well, to top it all off, I realized that these guys are a 1 hour and 50 minute drive from my house. I called them up, and asked if I could pick the item up and not have to pay the shipping fee. They said, yes, no problem. So I drove out there today, and picked it up, and drove it back home. I plugged it in, and tested it out. Hooked up the DVD player to the S-Video slot, just to test that first, and the picture quality was damn good! Then I hooked up my Saturn in RGB on it, with a special RGB cable that the_matthew@yahoo.ca made for me. And it looked Sweet!

So I'm letting everybody know, that if you are interested in a RGB monitor, for a super deal, check these guys out. When I bought the monitor, the guy didn't give me a guarantee that they were working fine. He didn't test them out. All he did was turn them on, and see if they would turn on. But mine worked fine. If you live in Northern California, these monitors are in San Jose. Their phone # is 1-408-723-9500 The business is called United Electronic Buyers Inc. The Ebay auction that I won was #3052649582. Just go to www.ebay.com and enter in that number and it will take you to auction that I won.

Anyways, the guy has like 18 more of these monitors left, but if he puts them up on Ebay with the 100 buck Buy it Now, they are going to be gone super fast.

So if you are interested, check it out. It turned out to be the best deal on Ebay that I have been involved with so far.

- Anthony

Anthony1
10-18-2003, 01:17 AM
Just to let people know, it looks like the guy that is selling these monitors, realized that he was selling them too low. They were going for 100 bucks on a buy it now, but now they are going for 200 bucks. Anyways, if you call this guy, you can ask him if he would give you the same deal that I got. The deal for 100 bucks. Who knows if he'll do it, but it's worth a shot.

qaotik
10-18-2003, 06:32 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3052789084&category=15086

This one costed $35 000 when it was new. Id prolly buy it if i lived in the US. :P

jonjandran
10-18-2003, 10:28 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3052789084&category=15086

This one costed $35 000 when it was new. Id prolly buy it if i lived in the US. :P

Yea that is one sweeeeeet T.V. I had a in-law that had one. Best big-screen picture I have ever seen.

Anthony1
10-18-2003, 10:56 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3052789084&category=15086

This one costed $35 000 when it was new. Id prolly buy it if i lived in the US. :P


Well that TV would be the ultimate dream, for a Retro Gamer. That is the largest RGB picture tube that money can buy. I can tell you right now that if you were to hook a Super Nintendo up to that puppy with a real RGB cable and you were to play Super Ghouls and Ghosts on that puppy, you would be totally blow away. That thing must weigh like 500 pounds!

I would definitely love to get that big monitor, but my wife wouldn't go for it. No place to put it really.

Zaxxon
10-18-2003, 01:07 PM
Is there any reason why a regular TV can't be converted to accept RGB input? The tubes are the same, they just don't come with the input circuitry on the outside, right?

Anthony1
10-18-2003, 03:02 PM
Is there any reason why a regular TV can't be converted to accept RGB input? The tubes are the same, they just don't come with the input circuitry on the outside, right?


I don't know. Maybe it could be possible, but why would you do that? First off, any RGB monitor will 9 times out of 10 have a much higher quality picture tube than a regular TV. My Commodore 1084S-D1 RGB monitor also accepts composite signals that aren't RGB. You know the yellow plug, from the yellow, red and white video and audio cables?

Well if I hook up say the NES to my Commodore 1084 via the composite input, it looks a helluva lot better than a 13 inch TV would, because it has a much higher quality picture tube. RGB monitors, aren't that far removed from computer monitors, and they typically have much better picture tubes in them.

For people that live in England, essentially all of their PAL TV's have RGB basically standard, if they have a RGB Scart input on their TV. So blokes in England have been enjoying RGB gaming for years and years now.

Zaxxon
10-19-2003, 11:47 PM
What about all the monitors that come in old arcade games? Aren't those all RGB? That seems like a cheap option. You can get an entire machine often for under $100 locally and you would get a large RGB monitor. Those old ones aren't as high-res as the newer ones but if your just hooking up classic VG systems or MAME classics...

Anthony1
10-19-2003, 11:56 PM
So, did anybody get one of these monitors? God, this thing is absolutely awesome. The first time I turned it on and saw Super Ghouls and Ghosts on it, in RGB, it was like, "Man, this is what I've been dreaming of for a long time, in terms of the best possible display device that I could get for Retro Games." I honestly don't think it's possible that anybody could get a better display device for Retro Games, then what I ended up getting for basically 120 bucks!!!!!! 100 bucks for the monitor and 20 bucks driving money. But even if I had to pay the $209.15, that it would of cost with shipping, it would have still been worth every little penny.

In fact, I might actually get one more of these. When I drove up there, I should have actually bought two of them. The only thing is, I was driving a Toyota Camry, and I could barely fit this puppy in my car. I had to squezze it into the passenger seat. It's a Sony PVM 2530, but it's more like a 27 inch TV in this super industrial type rack or case type thing. It weighs like 116 pounds. That puppy isn't easy to fit inside a family sedan. But damn, if I had a pickup truck, I would have bought 5 of those puppies for $500, then I would have put them on Ebay with a RGB cable for a TurboGrafx-16, and I would have gotten like 500 bucks for the damn thing, from some guy in love with the TurboGrafx-16, and in love with RGB displays.

Even though I picked this item up from their wherehouse, they sent me an email saying that the item has been shipped. If I end up getting another one delivered, then I'm might just have to keep that puppy too.

I'm telling you these things are freaking awesome. They look incredible with TV, DVD, you name it. Even the NES looks damn good on it. But once you hook it up with RGB, oh man. It ain't no Joke. Clockwork Knight, on that sceen ain't no joke. Contra III: The Alien Wars on that screen ain't no joke. Sega Rally on that screen ain't no joke.

I mean I hate to go on and on, and bore you with how freaking good this thing looks, but man, I'm in freaking heaven with this baby! You know what is really a damn shame though? God, if only I had known that there were monitors like this back in 1991, when the Genny was strong, the Turbo was still alive and the Super Nes, was just getting ready to drop. My monitor was actually made in 1989. Yep, it's a old son of a B. That baby is like 14 or 15 years old! But it's still working so damn sweet. You have to just see the color bars on it. You know those THX video test screens that you can run to try to get your TV dialed in? I did that on this monitor, and the color and contrast and all that, was basically perfect.

Anyways, I'm sorry for rambling on....I've been drinking....er, duh, er....

But hey, I'm going to take some pictures of this with my 4 megapixel, and see if it possibly can show, just how freaking beautiful it is. I don't know how to post pics on here, but maybe I can email them to somebody that does know how.

1bigmig
10-20-2003, 12:05 AM
But hey, I'm going to take some pictures of this with my 4 megapixel, and see if it possibly can show, just how freaking beautiful it is. I don't know how to post pics on here, but maybe I can email them to somebody that does know how.

Ive been reading about RGB monitors and Im getting pretty hyped. Could you take a picture on both a regular tv with composite hookup and on the RGB monitor? Id really like to see the two together.

Anthony1
10-20-2003, 12:12 AM
But hey, I'm going to take some pictures of this with my 4 megapixel, and see if it possibly can show, just how freaking beautiful it is. I don't know how to post pics on here, but maybe I can email them to somebody that does know how.

Ive been reading about RGB monitors and Im getting pretty hyped. Could you take a picture on both a regular tv with composite hookup and on the RGB monitor? Id really like to see the two together.


It's something you need to see in person. If you love video games like I do, especially, the classic retro games, from the period of the TurboGrafx-16, Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo, Atari Jaguar, Sega CD, Sega 32X, Sega Saturn, Sony Playstation and Nintendo 64, then you really owe it to yourself to play them the way that God and the developer intended. That is on a pure RGB display. Once you play your games on a RGB monitor, it's so damn hard to play them on anything else. It really is.

I'm going to take a bunch of pictures though, I'll see if any of them come out. The problem is, when it's on film, I think the screen get's jacked up and doesn't look right. So I don't think it will work. But I'll try

Zaxxon
10-20-2003, 12:15 AM
I thought about it but I think it would be better to put that $225 toward a HD TV with component video input.

1bigmig
10-20-2003, 12:18 AM
...play them the way that God and the developer intended

LOL

I know what you mean about the pictures not coming out right, I see it all the time on ebay. Thanks for trying though.

Anthony1
10-20-2003, 12:44 AM
I thought about it but I think it would be better to put that $225 toward a HD TV with component video input.


Well that $225 would be better spent on a TV that does 480p or better, if you play XBOX, GameCube and Dreamcast for the most part. Although I have all those systems, I spend much more time playing my SNES, Genny, Sega CD, Turbo, Jag, Saturn and PSone, then I do with the current systems. And the PS2 is pretty much worthless with 480p too, because only like 3 PS2 games are actually 480p. The PS2 actually looks awesome with a RGB monitor. It can use the PSone RGB cable. By the way, you can also get RGB cables for the XBOX, Cube and DC. The games look just as good as 480p. The only difference, is that it's interlaced instead of progressive scan.

I don't have this problem though. I have 2 HDTV's and now I have 2 RGB monitors, So I'm actually set at the moment. The only thing I need now, is a $30,000.00 top of the line DLP Projector and a 91 inch Screen. Yeah, right. Like that will ever happen.

Oh, and regarding the HDTV's, no, I'm not rich. In fact, I'm borderline poor. But I got one of the HDTV's from a company that went out of business, for a song, and the other HDTV was a family purchase after selling our home and getting a new home Any available cash that comes my way, that I can spend on whatever I what, usually goes into some kind of home theater type gear, or video games stuff.

leonk
10-20-2003, 01:20 PM
Is there any reason why a regular TV can't be converted to accept RGB input? The tubes are the same, they just don't come with the input circuitry on the outside, right?

Well, it might have been the case years ago, but not in new TV's today. In new TV's, the video signal remains in its NTSC/PAL format all the way to the neck of the CRT. Only there does it convert to RGB.. at a point too far down the line for you to tap in.

Old monitors used to have independant NTSC/PAL -> RGB converters on input (pre amplification and signal processing) but not anymore.

leonk
10-20-2003, 01:22 PM
What about all the monitors that come in old arcade games? Aren't those all RGB? That seems like a cheap option. You can get an entire machine often for under $100 locally and you would get a large RGB monitor. Those old ones aren't as high-res as the newer ones but if your just hooking up classic VG systems or MAME classics...

and that's what a lot of people (such as myself do). But the problem with this method is that all those monitors inside arcade machines are exposed.. they do not have the plastic shell to protect little fingers from killing themselves. :D Arcade machines in themselves are the shell for the monitors that are found inside.

leonk
10-20-2003, 01:25 PM
So, did anybody get one of these monitors? God, this thing is absolutely awesome. The first time I turned it on and saw Super Ghouls and Ghosts on it, in RGB, it was like, "Man, this is what I've been dreaming of for a long time, in terms of the best possible display device that I could get for Retro Games."

I have the same feeling every time I turn on my MAME machine and stand in front of it playing games.. that 25" arcade RGB monitor is amazing.. The ability to see the actual square pixels and the way the game was designed is mind blowing!

ENJOY!

ddockery
10-20-2003, 02:01 PM
Has anyone here used an RGB to component converter at all? How were the results?

Raedon
10-20-2003, 04:52 PM
If the ultimate goal is to MAME then just go to an arcade auction and buy a only crappy fighter/beat em up for $125-300 with a 25" RGB already to go.. just rip out the JAMMA and such and buy that RGB arcade video card.

chadtower
10-21-2003, 09:42 AM
I fully intend to do that sometime next year...