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AB Positive

10-19-2003, 07:53 AM

I have the tracking numbers for everything and I'm just waiting...

Mini Supergun from one guy,
MV-1FZ board from another,
An old style Neo stick from yet another,
I already have two games...

In a week and a half, I will FINALLY have my home MVS setup. I'm pleased as punch.

and I still have like $20 left over in my budget :D

-AG

Gunstarhero

10-19-2003, 12:41 PM

OK, I've been wondering about this Supergun business. When you get this stuff, will you have to have a special monitor, or turn your TV sideways to play these games? Since Arcade raster monitors normally are opposite TV sets regarding height and width, how do you fix this problem?

Captain Wrong

10-19-2003, 08:14 PM

Depends on what you're talking. To play a board on a TV you gotta get a RGB to NTSC convertor. As for flipping the screen, if the game runs on a vertical monitor, you have to flip your tv to play it correctly.

So the Neo, you play with your TV normal, but a vertical shmup, say Donpachi, you flip your TV on the side.

The problem you gotta watch for is a very few companies use a special monitor with a different sync rate than a TV, so the picture will be all fucked up on a regular TV. Sebiu of the Raiden series of shmups is the only company of note that comes to mind that does this. Pretty much every other JAMMA board will play ok on a TV, providing you are ok with flipping it if need be.

Oh, and for the width issues, I don't know. You might ask butta, as he has a CPSII gun and that's a board I know shows wider than a standard TV. These are reasons people like those old Commodore monitors so much. They sync to anything and you can adjust the height and width. (Downside, playing on a 13" screen. Baah!)

Gunstarhero

10-19-2003, 10:42 PM

Sounds complicated. Thanks for the info.

buttasuperb

10-20-2003, 02:11 AM

I notice no screen problems with my CPS2 gun. Everything looks great to me. However I did not build the system, so I don't know if special adjustments had to made or something.

and I still have like $20 left over in my budget :D

You wanna spend that $20 on a Samurai Shodown MVS cart? I got an extra here I need to sell. Congrats on finally getting the 1-slot, btw.

Captain Wrong

10-20-2003, 12:03 PM

Sounds complicated. Thanks for the info.

Really it's not. For 99% of JAMMA boards you're golden. The whole thing of JAMMA was to have a standard so operators could swap boards easily. The boards that would give you trouble on a regular TV, you're gonna have to go out of your way to get, because they're more obscure games anyway.

leonk

10-20-2003, 01:04 PM

A supergun is 95% presentation, 5% guts...

the presentation part covers how it looks. You don't want PCB's, power supplies, wires, etc laying around.. you want it to look nice. I saw butta's supergun on another website, and it looks nice.

The actual 5% guts is very *VERY* simple. If you know how to use a soldering gun, building a supergun is a piece of cake. A supergun is made up of the following components:

1 - Jamma harness
1 - Power supply (PC power supply will do fine)
1 - RGB to NTSC converter (also easy to find, and the most expensive part of the project!)

Some wire, buttons, and lots of time..

Apart from that, it's basically "follow the wire".. The jamma harness has all the required connections already marked! You just have to make sure you supply the data where required.. (e.g. volage, ground, button input, RGB output, etc).

I know it sounds complicated, but it's very easy.

good luck!

Captain Wrong

10-20-2003, 03:18 PM

leonk is dead on it.

Really, you don't even have to know how to solder. I built mine using crimps so if I screwed something up I could change it easily. It cost a bit more than soldering, but it's completely modular and if something should happen, like the ancient PC power supply I'm using going bust, I can change it out in about 5 minutes.

Check my supergun journal if you haven't seen it before for a blow by blow description of the whole thing: http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11347&highlight=supergun

Ed Oscuro

10-20-2003, 03:53 PM

Oh yeah...I should get/make one of these sometime. One of those new aluminum PC cases with clear side panels would be perfect.

Videogamerdaryll

10-20-2003, 04:02 PM

Congrats..

Jorpho

10-20-2003, 05:05 PM

Can you fry a TV (or an RGB to NTSC converter) by putting a signal with an overly high refresh rate through it, like you can with (old) computer monitors?

Ed Oscuro

10-20-2003, 05:50 PM

I'm wondering the same thing. Anybody?

AB Positive

10-20-2003, 06:04 PM

punkoffgirl

10-20-2003, 11:49 PM

...didn't I post this in Off-Topic? Did it get moved?

-AG

Yes, and yes! It was a little more "on" topic than off :) Figured you'd get more attention over here!

AB Positive

10-21-2003, 12:00 AM

Heh, how many times has something been moved TO the VGF FROM Off-Topic? :D

-AG

punkoffgirl

10-21-2003, 12:08 AM

More than you think :)

video_game_addict

10-21-2003, 06:35 PM

Very cool! So the Mini Supergun, it has neo ports on it for the controllers?

I started to keep my extra AES stick incase I got a 2 slot down the road. But I have the 1FZ board right now, there are no controller ports on it, you would need to wire thru the Supergun.

Sounds like the only thing left to buy, besides for more games, would be a multi bios upgrade. (http://bios.cps2shock.com/) :-P

bargora

10-21-2003, 11:33 PM

And here I thought you had finally scored a date with King.

Have fun. I'm jealous! (Not as jealous as I would be if you DID get a date with King, mind you...)