Are computers and MAME "up to par" yet?

[Sylentwulf]

Just wondering, before I give the whole emulation thing another go, can a P4 2.8ghz with 1gb RDRam and a 128mb Radeon Videocard with windows XP play Mortal Kombat in MAME yet? :)

Every other time I've tried, the slowdown/choppiness always turns me off, and theres just something that pisses me off about not being able to play EVERY game that makes me end up just deleting it all.

[Jorpho]

I would think that a much lesser computer would be able to run Mortal Kombat just fine, with the proper settings and perhaps with an optimized build. (XP probably wouldn't help, though.)

I thought this was going to be a thread about Crusin' USA and such (which simply can't run at full speed even on really good computers).

[Sylentwulf]

Well, last I tried was on a 1.8ghz running WinME with 1gb SDRam about 1-2 years ago, and mortal kombat ran ALMOST OK (not nearly good enough for me).

I didn't even think cruisin USA was available, same with killer instinct (which is QUICKLY climbing up on my need an arcade game list due to it's un-emulatory condition)

[zektor]

Heh. I'm still running on a p3 1ghz setup and the only time I had any slowdown in any of the MK's has been when Mame's code wasn't perfected. I run MK 1, 2, 3, and Ultimate at full speed w/sound on this setup nowadays.

[slurpeepoop]

I didn't even think cruisin USA was available, same with killer instinct (which is QUICKLY climbing up on my need an arcade game list due to it's un-emulatory condition)

Ummm.....I'm guessing you never heard of U64Emu, which plays both Killer Instinct and Killer Instinct 2 perfectly. In fact, the last computer I had was an old 1.2 GHz Athlon, and I still had to limit the framerate to 60 fps. Otherwise, you had KI at SF2 Turbo++ speeds.

[Sylentwulf]

Ummm.....I'm guessing you never heard of U64Emu, which plays both Killer Instinct and Killer Instinct 2 perfectly. In fact, the last computer I had was an old 1.2 GHz Athlon, and I still had to limit the framerate to 60 fps. Otherwise, you had KI at SF2 Turbo++ speeds.

Yes, unfortunately, not only have I never been able to find any of the necessary files, when I DID find them one time, the files were ALL corrupt, and it looked like a bitch to install.

The problem with most emulators is, I use my computer, a LOT, and it gets stripped, formatted, and re-installed every 6 months. WAY too much time to re-install all of the emulators and games, which means all emulation needs to be done on my old computer (If you consider a P4 1.8ghz old).

Zektor - Is that a dedicated emulation computer running that arcade OS so nothing else gets in the way?

[Gamereviewgod]

I still have issues with MK, at least with sound. Runs at like 5 frames with any sound. Yeah, my computers a little older, but I can understand Sylentwulfs pain.

[Jorpho]

Yes, unfortunately, not only have I never been able to find any of the necessary files, when I DID find them one time, the files were ALL corrupt, and it looked like a bitch to install.

As I recall, KI requires a hard drive image (known as a CHD) that is about 100 MB in size. Not many places want to try to host a file like that.


The problem with most emulators is, I use my computer, a LOT, and it gets stripped, formatted, and re-installed every 6 months. WAY too much time to re-install all of the emulators and games, which means all emulation needs to be done on my old computer (If you consider a P4 1.8ghz old).

Perhaps you should obtain Norton Ghost, so that you may re-install everything on your computer quickly and easily.


Zektor - Is that a dedicated emulation computer running that arcade OS so nothing else gets in the way?

As described in a previous thread in this forum, the AdvanceMAME team has come up with something called the AdvanceCD, which in theory lets you run MAME from a bootable CD with nothing else getting in the way.

[zektor]

Ummm.....I'm guessing you never heard of U64Emu, which plays both Killer Instinct and Killer Instinct 2 perfectly. In fact, the last computer I had was an old 1.2 GHz Athlon, and I still had to limit the framerate to 60 fps. Otherwise, you had KI at SF2 Turbo++ speeds.

Yes, unfortunately, not only have I never been able to find any of the necessary files, when I DID find them one time, the files were ALL corrupt, and it looked like a bitch to install.

The problem with most emulators is, I use my computer, a LOT, and it gets stripped, formatted, and re-installed every 6 months. WAY too much time to re-install all of the emulators and games, which means all emulation needs to be done on my old computer (If you consider a P4 1.8ghz old).

Zektor - Is that a dedicated emulation computer running that arcade OS so nothing else gets in the way?


Actually, no. I'm broke as hell :) I wish I could had a dedicated system just for the games, but this system runs everything. I have an 80GB (I need MORE space!) that is partitioned 10GB and 70GB. The 10 has Win2k running and the 70 is just for roms and emulation. I wipe my system probably more often than you do, so it makes it easy to just wipe the 10 and install Windows without touching my emulation setups on the second partition. I also have the drive hooked into one of those removable cradles (handle in the front of the system so I can just pull the drive out) and my brother has the same on his system. The one thing he has that I do not is a DVD burner (lucky bastard), so I bring the drive to his house occasionally and burn all of my goodies there. I'll tell you something for sure however, and that is Win2k SP4 runs MUCH faster on my machine than XP. I reinstalled about two months back with XP SP1 and noticed much more slowdown on just about everything than I did with 2k (especially PinMame), so I went back to 2k.

[slurpeepoop]

Yes, unfortunately, not only have I never been able to find any of the necessary files, when I DID find them one time, the files were ALL corrupt, and it looked like a bitch to install.

Feel free to send me a PM, and I'd be happy to send you the KI and KI2 files for U64Emu via irc, or just look me up on efnet (I'm slurpeepo).

[digitalpress]

It's not up to par. It never will be.

There will never be a substitute for the real thing!

[Zaxxon]

It's not up to par. It never will be.

There will never be a substitute for the real thing!

It's always the guys with the monster sized collections that feel the need to always declare this anytime someone brings up emu's accuracy/speed etc., just to reasure yourselves that your collection won't soon be plummeting in value. Do you really feel that threatened by emulators? There are lots of instances where emu's are a good substitute for the real thing. Try finding a working ADAM tape drive or disk drive and Adam software. A lot of C64 users rely solely on C64 emu's even though they own large C64 collections. You can use emu's and spare your boxed systems any wear and tear. Who knows how these old system's electronics, with dried up capacitors and parts that have drifted out of their original values will handle electricity now and in the future.

[Duncan]

It's not up to par. It never will be.

There will never be a substitute for the real thing!

Then why do we have an emulation forum...? :hmm:

[zektor]

It's not up to par. It never will be.

There will never be a substitute for the real thing!

Then why do we have an emulation forum...? :hmm:

Because even tho it can never be the "real thing", it is good and we love it!

And no, it is definitely NOT "New Coke". LOL

[partanimalpartmachine]

It's not up to par. It never will be.

There will never be a substitute for the real thing!

It's always the guys with the monster sized collections that feel the need to always declare this anytime someone brings up emu's accuracy/speed etc., just to reasure yourselves that your collection won't soon be plummeting in value. Do you really feel that threatened by emulators? There are lots of instances where emu's are a good substitute for the real thing. Try finding a working ADAM tape drive or disk drive and Adam software. A lot of C64 users rely solely on C64 emu's even though they own large C64 collections. You can use emu's and spare your boxed systems any wear and tear. Who knows how these old system's electronics, with dried up capacitors and parts that have drifted out of their original values will handle electricity now and in the future.

Maybe because he is right and you are just a lameass.

[wberdan]

It's not up to par. It never will be.

There will never be a substitute for the real thing!

It's always the guys with the monster sized collections that feel the need to always declare this anytime someone brings up emu's accuracy/speed etc., just to reasure yourselves that your collection won't soon be plummeting in value. Do you really feel that threatened by emulators? There are lots of instances where emu's are a good substitute for the real thing. Try finding a working ADAM tape drive or disk drive and Adam software. A lot of C64 users rely solely on C64 emu's even though they own large C64 collections. You can use emu's and spare your boxed systems any wear and tear. Who knows how these old system's electronics, with dried up capacitors and parts that have drifted out of their original values will handle electricity now and in the future.

i have a big collection, and emulators- and i can tell you right now, i RARELY use an emulator... it just doesnt react like the original game does in my opinion.... there is something about it that just does not do it for me.
its definetely not the fact that the graphics and/or sound are better on the computer- i like better quality stuff! - it is just that the games arnt as fun to me on the computer as they are playing them on original hardware.
sure emulators are great for archiving data that may be lost in the future, but why not enjoy it on the "real deal" while you still can?

willie

[nesuser2]

kind of the place for it, but kind of not. Just personal preference I suppose.....But, I wouldn't run WinME. I hate XP just as much but it's so handy for the things I do that it's more than really hard to turn my back or I would still be on windows 98 with the blue screen of death. win2k seems to be a good OS but I really can't stand it.

anyways, you shouldn't complain zektor. No hard drive that is currently made would ever be big enough for you. LOL Even if you could squeeze it all on one, Wow......I don't think I could sleep at night knowing that I had a 250GB HD 80%+ full O_O

[Sylentwulf]

anyways, you shouldn't complain zektor. No hard drive that is currently made would ever be big enough for you. LOL Even if you could squeeze it all on one, Wow......I don't think I could sleep at night knowing that I had a 250GB HD 80%+ full O_O

I have 240GB around 80% full on a daily basis, depending on what I have left to do, and what I'm working on. Nothing wrong with that, better than having only 20% full at any given point in time, that's just a waste.

[zektor]

Now if only I had a few terrabytes...then I can add my entire movie collection to the HD for easy access as well! LOL