Why no lists of these consoles.....?

[hydr0x]

Why are there no lists for these consoles:

Amstrad GX4000
Philips Videopac G7000
Blackpoint SHG whatever :p

??

i mean, their libraries are not too big, afaik at least one system even has numbered games (videopac...), so why no list? i posted a videopac auction yesterday, shows nearly every game if that is the problem, i think the seller would have no problem with listing the games...

[hydr0x]

oh and in case you don't know the GX4000:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3056893617&category=54982&rd=1

http://www.brimedia.de/ebay/gx4000.jpg

[Scoots]

Aren't Videopac games lumped in with the Odyssey 2 stuff in the guide?

[Ed Oscuro]

Why are there no lists for these consoles:

Amstrad GX4000
Philips Videopac G7000
Blackpoint SHG whatever :p



I think you answered your own question about the Blackpoint there ;)

As for the Amstrad...looks like a nice piece of kit so somebody will eventually do a writeup on it. I actually realize I know nothing about it other than that from the rather advanced styling it looks to have come after Amstrad was in the computer business for a considerable number of years--perhaps it runs computer games (though I see the cartridge, perhaps their machines used cartridge input? I do forget.)

I think Scoots is quite right with the O^2 = Videopac listing (I'd check it to be sure myself but as I'm on a dodgy public college computer that takes forever and a half to load up PDFs and requires me to sign off on the license every darn time I'll fiddle with that later).

[hydr0x]

the amstrad GX4000 has the same specifications as their CPC 464+, has no keyboard (obviously), no cassette-recorder

has 2 gamepads, one analog joystick, Monitor&TV connection possible

it was released 1990 :)

gx4000 pcb:

http://mitglied.lycos.de/janbaart/gx4000pcb-s.jpg

box:

http://mitglied.lycos.de/janbaart/boxgx4000-s.jpg

^^ this info is taken from 8bit-museum.de

[Ed Oscuro]

So it WAS a CPC clone! I guess I lucked out that time.

Well, I think there's no reason the console shouldn't be listed, but the question is...does Digital Press want to expand into the realm of computers? Computer systems of the 80's, particularly the British variety, had a whole ton of games because of the cheapness of format (magazine BASIC code listings or cassette tape) but they're still essentially computers. The problem is if you take on one people eventually expect you to take on them all.

[digitalpress]

>> moved to 'collecting' forum <<

VideoPac is documented in the O2 section.

BlackPoint... we might get to that. After Mega Duck, Timex Sinclair, Dragon32 and whatever other weird stuff our guys are on these days (the classic guide work is going at "normal pace" whereas the advance stuff is the focus of the team at the moment).

Amstrad stuff I'm trying to steer clear of, though it's probably going to get in there someday. I'm not looking forward to the day that we'll have to track down all the Apple II and DOS games either!

[anagrama]

The GX4000 used carts rather than tapes/disks, and had a pretty small library (20-30 carts, I think). They were numbered aswell.
While on a time-line, it would fit in the 16-bit era (released 1990), technology-wise it's thoroughly 8-bit. And thoroughly freakin' awful to boot.
I've got a rough gamelist at home, so I'll post it here tonight if I remember.

[devilman]

I agree that it's an awful console - mine gets really hot after a short play of the dire Wec le Mans clone 'Burnin' Rubber'. Still.. if you could post that list, I might just try and collect it and maybe we can get a complete list up. As it stands, I've just got the two games left, World of Sports & Fire & Forget II.

[hydr0x]

as anagrama said, it uses carts and didn't have to many games, so it IS A CONSOLE, not a pc, it's not a step towards pc-game-lists...

[anagrama]

Here ya go:

Name - Developer (Part#, year)
Barbarian II: The Dungeon of Drax - Ocean (OC089012, 1990)
Batman - Ocean (OC089006, 1990)
Burnin' Rubber - Ocean (?, 1990)
Chase HQ - Ocean (?, 1990)
Copter 271 - Loriciel (?, 1991)
Crazy Cars II - Titus (TI089001, 1990)
Dick Tracy - Empire (?)
Enforcer, The - Trojan (?)
Fire and Forget II - Titus (TI089003, 1990)
Klax - Domark (?)
Mystical - Infogrames (?)
Navy Seals - Ocean (OC089003, 1990)
No Exit - Tomahawk (?, 1990)
Operation Thunderbolt - Ocean (OC89005, 1990)
Pang (!!) - Ocean (OC89005, 1990)
Panza Kick Boxing - Titus (?)
Plotting - Ocean (?, 1990)
Pro Tennis Tour - Ubi Soft (UB089001, 1990)
Robocop 2 - Ocean (OC89008, 1990)
Skeet Shoot - Trojan (?)
Space Gun - Ocean (?)
Super Pinball Magic - Loriciel (?, 1990)
Switchblade - Gremlin (GR089002, 1990)
Tennis Cup II - Loriciel (?, 1990)
Tintin on the Moon - Infogrames (?)
Wild Streets - Titus (TI089002, ?)
World of Sports - Epyx (US089001 , 1990)

I've also heard of, but not seen these (I don't know if any were actually released):
Escape from the Planet of the Robot Monsters (Domark)
Gazza II (Empire)
Kick Off 2 (Anco)
S.C.I: Chase HQ 2 (Ocean)
Shadow Warriors (Ocean)
Spiderman (Empire)
Toki (Ocean)

Burnin' Rubber was the pack-in and is by far the most common. Robocop 2 and World of Sports aren't too hard to find either, but everything else is pretty scarce.
There's also a very similar looking cart with Burnin' Rubber and a BASIC program on it, which was the pack-in cart with some versions of the Amstrad CPC6124+ computer. I don't know if this is directly compatible or not.

And what is it with Pang appearing on God-awful consoles?
It's one of my all-time favourites, but I imagine it's hardly done justice on this piece of crap. Probably better than the Supervision version though :)

[Ed Oscuro]

as anagrama said, it uses carts and didn't have to many games, so it IS A CONSOLE, not a pc, it's not a step towards pc-game-lists...

OK, I BELIEVE you LOL

I've no problem with introducing this system but the main point here is that if you start making listings for systems by proper computer manufacturers that you'll eventually have to deal with their regular stuff too...the closer you get the harder it becomes to use the "we don't do computer games" reasoning.

Maybe that'll help us edge out GameFAQs someday ;o

Still, that's a big proposition for a website of our size to tackle right now.

[anagrama]

Whilst I understand that reasoning, C64; Dragon; MSX; Spectrum and TI-99/4A carts are already listed, so it's arguably more of an omission not having the GX4000 that it would be an exception to include it.

[hydr0x]

i agree there are some systems on the list which are much closer to pc's than the GX4000 is (some in fact ARE pc's)

[slapdash]

The Black Point opens a giant, seething abyss... It's one of those GI-chip systems, of which there must have been hundreds. A good list would include all of them, but that is a herculean task, believe me. Still, I have a fair amount of carts if I could just get a list together.

[can_dude]

the Blackpoint SHG is one of many many many PC-50x systems. There are like 50 different PC_50X series systems released under different names. THey are quite clever in design being that they are actually systems with all the wiring without the Pong CPU chip. the cartridges merely puts the cpu in making it non-programmable. Go here for a list of the 67 consoles I have determined using a definition stipulation for all consoles.

http://students.washington.edu/nob/list.html

the defintion for a console is on the bottom of the page. The defintion was derived by about 2 dozen gamers.

[TheRedEye]

>> moved to 'collecting' forum <<

VideoPac is documented in the O2 section.

BlackPoint... we might get to that. After Mega Duck, Timex Sinclair, Dragon32 and whatever other weird stuff our guys are on these days (the classic guide work is going at "normal pace" whereas the advance stuff is the focus of the team at the moment).

Do we have a Mega Duck guy? If not, I know someone who would be PERFECT for it.

[slapdash]

Do we have a Mega Duck guy? If not, I know someone who would be PERFECT for it.

Wim?

I think Joe brought it up because someone WAS putting a list together. Search below in this forum (I'm too lazy to :-p).