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neotokeo2001
11-05-2003, 04:32 PM
BusinessWire reported that the market share of Nintendo's GameCube has increased from 19% to 37% in US, after the price drop to $99.99. Right now GameCube is the number 2 console in the market, and Sony PlayStation 2 is still ahead of the two other systems.

hezeuschrist
11-05-2003, 04:34 PM
:cheers:

jaybird
11-05-2003, 04:38 PM
:hail:

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22330

Half Japanese
11-05-2003, 04:48 PM
I still don't understand this extreme hatred of the Xbox x_x . I can't wait to play the new Mario Kart, Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Luigi, Starfox, Pikmin, Wave Race and Mario Party on the next Nintendo system! (all of that sarcasm except Wave Race and Metroid, the two series they haven't worn out yet). I'm not saying either system is better, and I own only an Xbox and Gamecube out of the current crop, but it seems every time a little triumph takes place in the Nintendo camp it's a rally cry for celebration.

neotokeo2001
11-05-2003, 04:53 PM
:hail:

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22330


I try to check before I post something. Did'nt see it. :embarrassed:

WiseSalesman
11-05-2003, 04:58 PM
I still don't understand this extreme hatred of the Xbox x_x . I can't wait to play the new Mario Kart, Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Luigi, Starfox, Pikmin, Wave Race and Mario Party on the next Nintendo system! (all of that sarcasm except Wave Race and Metroid, the two series they haven't worn out yet). I'm not saying either system is better, and I own only an Xbox and Gamecube out of the current crop, but it seems every time a little triumph takes place in the Nintendo camp it's a rally cry for celebration.

Yes, but Microsoft is looking like it's putting Nintendo out of business, and anything that keeps that from happening is okay with me. Aside from that, things like this are good for the industry anyway, as they encourage competition. If Nintendo were to get constantly wailed on, Microsoft and Sony could raise their prices, which isn't good for the consumer in any way shape or form.

And, since we're talking about what's good for the consumer, I received my $4.99 Rygar today! Thanks again to whoever posted that deal!

jaybird
11-05-2003, 05:06 PM
And, since we're talking about what's good for the consumer, I received my $4.99 Rygar today! Thanks again to whoever posted that deal!

That would be me. \^_^/

Back on topic, I'm disappointed in how websites choose to report the numbers they're given. They need to be more specific rather than throwing arbitrary numbers in a report.

hezeuschrist
11-05-2003, 05:12 PM
I still don't understand this extreme hatred of the Xbox x_x . I can't wait to play the new Mario Kart, Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Luigi, Starfox, Pikmin, Wave Race and Mario Party on the next Nintendo system! (all of that sarcasm except Wave Race and Metroid, the two series they haven't worn out yet). I'm not saying either system is better, and I own only an Xbox and Gamecube out of the current crop, but it seems every time a little triumph takes place in the Nintendo camp it's a rally cry for celebration.

No one said anything bad about the Xbox. Little quick on the defensive there?

kai123
11-05-2003, 05:45 PM
The Cube is a very solid system and for $99 who could complain?

whoisKeel
11-05-2003, 06:30 PM
how well is xbox doing in japan? have their been any other consoles that originated in the US?

buttasuperb
11-05-2003, 06:46 PM
Why does it matter who's in last place?

Play the games you like on whatever system and that's it.

Dr. Morbis
11-05-2003, 08:14 PM
Anyone can make statistics say anything they want them to say. That being said, it IS important who is in last place. Nintendo is the last video game company that manufactures video game hardware. Both Sony and Microshit could take it or leave it. They are worldwide behemoths. If the industry were to fall on bad times, they would cut their hardware production and move on. They couldn't care less. I don't particularly care for the gamecube, but I shudder to think what the industry will inevitably transform into once the last video game company has been run out of town... Good bye quality and innovation :(

kainemaxwell
11-05-2003, 08:26 PM
Why does it matter who's in last place?

Play the games you like on whatever system and that's it.
Here, here!

Zubiac666
11-06-2003, 03:25 AM
how well is xbox doing in japan? have their been any other consoles that originated in the US?

In September the x-box was behind(!!!) "Bandai Wonderswan".
Then it "catched up" ( x_x )


Japanese charts for the week ending October 19th.
The Game Boy Advance continues to dominate the charts. Charts are thanks to Media Create.

1. Nintendo Game Boy Advance SP (31,600)
2. Sony PlayStation 2 (26,900)
3. Nintendo GameCube (11,100)
4. Nintendo Game Boy Advance (6,300)
5. Sony Playstation (650)
6. Microsoft Xbox (440)
7. Bandai WonderSwan (420)


I guess it won't look better now
uuhhh

Aswald
11-06-2003, 12:13 PM
BusinessWire reported that the market share of Nintendo's GameCube has increased from 19% to 37% in US, after the price drop to $99.99. Right now GameCube is the number 2 console in the market, and Sony PlayStation 2 is still ahead of the two other systems.

Bill Gates, in a fit of rage, picks up an X-Box and hurls it across the room...

It fell short. LOL

Gamemaster_ca_2003
11-06-2003, 02:54 PM
Bill Gates, in a fit of rage, picks up an X-Box and hurls it across the room...

Well how would you feel if your companies video game console was in last place.

jaybird
11-06-2003, 03:38 PM
have their been any other consoles that originated in the US?

Atari is by far the most successful. The most recent would be 3DO unless I'm forgetting someone minor.

calthaer
11-06-2003, 04:35 PM
Why does it matter who's in last place?

Play the games you like on whatever system and that's it.

Yeah but if you really, really like the games and the hardware that said company produces then it behooves one to tell regular people how good it is so that they will buy and support said company.

Of course here among the "viderati" peoples' opinions on these matters are usually pretty firmly set before they start discussing it, so...

Saturn Sensei
11-06-2003, 06:36 PM
Useless statistics. GC in second place when?? The day of the drop??
Overall??

NPD figures for September(after the drop):
PS2: 334,000 [+15% over August sales]
Xbox: 172,000 [+18%]
GCN: 165,000 [+64%]
GBA: 410,000 [+11%]

Total including September:
PS2: 19,139,000
Xbox: 6,002,000
GCN: 4,695,000
GBA: 15,909,000


If the GC couldn't pass the Xbox in September after dropping to $99 I seriously doubt it has passed the Xbox overall in the US.

Creative statistics.

SoulBlazer
11-06-2003, 07:48 PM
At this rate, though, the GC installed base COULD pass the XBox sometime in the next year, especily if the XBox gets no price drop, and the GC continues to have more 'big' games come out for it.

jaybird
11-06-2003, 10:31 PM
At this rate, though, the GC installed base COULD pass the XBox sometime in the next year, especily if the XBox gets no price drop, and the GC continues to have more 'big' games come out for it.

I can't see that happening. If Grand Theft Auto 3 & Vice City being ported over to the Xbox doesn't nail down #2, then Halo 2 will next year.

Nintendo has shot all of its big guns anyway (Mario, Metroid & Link) & they're still in third.

Lost Monkey
11-06-2003, 10:51 PM
If the GC couldn't pass the Xbox in September after dropping to $99 I seriously doubt it has passed the Xbox overall in the US.



The price wasn't dropped until the last week of September... The October figures should be more telling of what kind of an effect it had.

hezeuschrist
11-07-2003, 01:02 AM
It's only been just over a month since the price break and Nintendo is already booting up production again. Moved the surplus out rather quickly.

Actually thats me talking out my ass, because I have absolutely no clue how much surplus they had, and them restarting production means absolutely nothing.

Ed Oscuro
11-07-2003, 10:17 AM
Bill Gates, in a fit of rage, picks up an X-Box and hurls it across the room...

It fell short. LOL

That's assuming he'd actually have one in his office. LOL

calthaer
11-07-2003, 12:03 PM
Bill Gates, in a fit of rage, picks up an X-Box and hurls it across the room...

It fell short. LOL

That's assuming he'd actually have one in his office. LOL

Now what would really be funny is if he had one in his office running Linux...hahaha

Ed Oscuro
11-07-2003, 04:55 PM
Bill Gates, in a fit of rage, picks up an X-Box and hurls it across the room...

It fell short. LOL

That's assuming he'd actually have one in his office. LOL

Now what would really be funny is if he had one in his office running Linux...hahaha

I'd rather expect to see it running Lindows myself--gotta be able to run those Windows apps!

(Lindows isn't compatible with Windows apps, by the way, it was just PROMISED to emulate Windows back in earlier versions :D)

Zaxxon
11-08-2003, 12:12 AM
Yes, but Microsoft is looking like it's putting Nintendo out of business, and anything that keeps that from happening is okay with me.

It looks more like Nintendo is putting itself out of business. I don't think they have anyone to blame but themselves for their current position. Die hard Nintedo fans were going to buy the GC no matter what. Nintendo didn't give the undecided average gamer what they were looking for and they paid the price. It probably wouldn't matter if it were Sega or NEC or [?] in there instead of MS. Nintendo would still stubbornly do their own thing, telling consumers and retailers they'll get what they'll get and like it, as they always have. That $99 price drop might seem like a great thing to you but from what I've read, Nintendo just says "Fuk yoo retailur, you eat loss, HA HA HA. We haf tu empty rar-howse NOW!! Beat it round-eyes!!". I doubt retail buyers will be so enthusiatic about devoting as much valuable store shelf space to Nintendo's next system, if and when it's released.

Zaxxon
11-08-2003, 12:20 AM
Why does it matter who's in last place?

Play the games you like on whatever system and that's it.

I would think it matters because history has shown the VG market, at least in N.A., can't or won't support 3 consoles and the system in 3rd place dies a premature death. If you only own the 3rd place system you're watching your release schedule get whittled down daily to just the 1st party stuff (GC).

ianoid
11-08-2003, 11:21 AM
Total including September:
PS2: 19,139,000
Xbox: 6,002,000
GCN: 4,695,000
GBA: 15,909,000

No, but that means the death of Nintendo. Wait a second- aren't they still selling GBC games? Aren't there longer profit margins on GBA games? Let's face it, the development cycle for GBA games is far cheaper and shorter.

I think Nintendo needs to stay in the console race because it's their character being questioned, rather than their ability to make great stuff.

Those of you Nintendophiles who are puching for a Gamecube 'comeback' need to realize that your number one is now number 3 in the console world. But if you're a portable game you can chant 'We're Number 1! We're Number 1!' until Sony releases the PSP, which may just squash our sweet ruthless Nintendo.

Those darn non-video game companies! Ruining the market with their products. Down with Microsoft, down with Sony! Where's the Rockstar Video Game System?

Funny, any company with any sense has probably realized that the money is in software, not hardware (Sega...?)

ian