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can_dude
11-14-2003, 04:56 PM
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3608&item=3058998878

looks like it's in terrible condition, but here it is for anyone looking to spend their money.

MarioAllStar2600
11-14-2003, 05:05 PM
To pricey. The gold oen is worth that i tihnk.

suppafly
11-14-2003, 05:13 PM
I dont know about you guys, but i surely wouldnt spend 1400 US on a beat-up game....

can_dude
11-14-2003, 05:15 PM
the grey one is definitely not worht 1400...I'd say 600 for grey and 1750 for the gold...that is IMHO

suppafly
11-14-2003, 05:17 PM
Even if it were worth 1400, i woudlnt like to buy that one...the label looks very damaged/dirty

nesman85
11-14-2003, 05:24 PM
the grey one is definitely not worht 1400...I'd say 600 for grey and 1750 for the gold...that is IMHO
I must have missed something. last I heard the average price for a gray was around $1,500.00 and $4,000.00 for a gold.

suppafly
11-14-2003, 05:25 PM
Whats the origin of the gold ones? Are those the ones what were given away by NINTENDO POWER???

can_dude
11-14-2003, 05:37 PM
there are 126 carts given to the 126 finalists of the Nintendo World Championship competition. 100 grey carts and 26 gold cart to the top 26 finalists.

I understand that the carts are worht a ton, but I personally wouldn't pay more than what I put.

suppafly
11-14-2003, 05:41 PM
yeah,,,,but i remember that some were given away on NINTENDO POWER.....am i wrong????

Dr. Morbis
11-14-2003, 05:44 PM
Well, I think that a gray one with a mint label is worth $1500. When it comes to really expensive games like that, condition is much more important. You think to yourself, "If I'm going to spend X thousand dollars on one game, it damn well better be mint". If I were in the position to by an NWC, I would certainly pay an extra few hundred dollars for one in excellent condition. Of course, the yellowing/peeling of the gray NWC label is a common problem. Almost all of the ones I've seen for sale have had that condition to some degree.

suppafly
11-14-2003, 05:46 PM
If i had one, i surely would keep it inside a bank LOL LOL

nesman85
11-14-2003, 05:49 PM
yeah,,,,but i remember that some were given away on NINTENDO POWER.....am i wrong????
you are correct. the gold ones were given away in nintendo power.

suppafly
11-14-2003, 05:54 PM
ahh...the golden times of Nintendo Power.....(the first 30 issues or so only) :D

This is off topic, but do you know someone who`d sell me the first 6 issues?

dave2236
11-14-2003, 07:51 PM
yeah, beat up like that its not worth $1,400.

I'd say more like $800-1000, but someone will probably pick it up cause its christmas

wberdan
11-14-2003, 08:11 PM
wow you people are picky... that label looks totally reasonable-
I expected it to be gone and really messed up by the way you guys were talking. true, a mint one would bring more cash- but there is no way you'll see this cart dip below 1400 ever again-regardless of label condition, in my opinion.

willie

Balloon Fight
11-14-2003, 09:17 PM
wow you people are picky... that label looks totally reasonable-
I expected it to be gone and really messed up by the way you guys were talking. true, a mint one would bring more cash- but there is no way you'll see this cart dip below 1400 ever again-regardless of label condition, in my opinion.

willie

Agreed. The label isnt that bad at all. It is a little yellow, but you could glue the top part back together. If it was a little less, and i actually had money it would be mine.


This is cartridge #280.

There are only around 120 of these in existence. The last one I saw on e-bay went for $2000. Since the label on this one is not in the best of shape I am starting the bidding much less then that.

How is the cartridge #280 when ther are 120 around? Doesnt seem right...

Dr. Morbis
11-14-2003, 10:30 PM
Just because Nintendo only gave away 90 grey carts, it doesn't mean they were limited to manufacturing that many. I have seen numbers in the high 300's on ebay (380-ish I think). Nintendo may have made somewhere around 400 (most likely less than 500). They obviously weren't distributed to the winners/finalists in sequential order (numerically). For all we know there could be a cardboard box of 300 NWC's somewhere in the state of Washington. Who here works for NOA?

Dr. Morbis
11-14-2003, 10:30 PM
Just because Nintendo only gave away 90 grey carts, it doesn't mean they were limited to manufacturing that many. I have seen numbers in the high 300's on ebay (380-ish I think). Nintendo may have made somewhere around 400 (most likely less than 500). They obviously weren't distributed to the winners/finalists in sequential order (numerically). For all we know there could be a cardboard box of 300 NWC's somewhere in the state of Washington. Who here works for NOA?

Dragoon
11-14-2003, 11:56 PM
How is the cartridge #280 when ther are 120 around? Doesnt seem right...


There was actually a Nintendo World Championship on ebay previously, that looked like a 300 number, but again in actuality that one was a blury photo and it checked out to be a "2" in the hundredth's place.

That specific incident maybe was 236 which had a known sales history, but I do remember the specific topic, someone said, 'It says 300-something!" And I thwn checked it out. It happened that the 2 looked just like the 3 next to it in the ten's place in that bad photo though. But it was no 300 number.

Not to worry though, people out there keep track and save the photos whenever they see one. And so far this 280 may, well, be, (insert loud echo) THE HIGHEST NUMBERED NWC TO EXIST...

Like with the Myriad 6-in-1 NES game, it is interesting to see how high a number there has been. Conversely it is the same... all too interesting what the highest NWC number could be... However I don't know that that number has to do with how many there are, or "were".

It is notable that of the 90 won in the Festival, that those NWC's were not numbers 1 through 90, it turns out, as several winners have surfaced with prizes that didn't fit in that bracket.

So... More than ninety were constructed, yes?

-Yes that is, so...

After the ninety were given to winners, were the ones left over that did not end up going to the nintendo staff (Sure to have happened with a few) and management end up being gathered up and hidden under the first party Protos in Nintendo's vault?

-The signs point to yes...

Other questions too?

-Yes...

Why did they need more than ninety anyway?

-I'll take a 15 minutes and get back to me...

Wait why are you talking to yourself in the second person again?

-I'm posing a question so I can give answers that someone else would want to know. Besides I'm not complaining, why should you be...

Eh, Heh, if you say so x_x

Dragoon
11-14-2003, 11:56 PM
How is the cartridge #280 when ther are 120 around? Doesnt seem right...


There was actually a Nintendo World Championship on ebay previously, that looked like a 300 number, but again in actuality that one was a blury photo and it checked out to be a "2" in the hundredth's place.

That specific incident maybe was 236 which had a known sales history, but I do remember the specific topic, someone said, 'It says 300-something!" And I thwn checked it out. It happened that the 2 looked just like the 3 next to it in the ten's place in that bad photo though. But it was no 300 number.

Not to worry though, people out there keep track and save the photos whenever they see one. And so far this 280 may, well, be, (insert loud echo) THE HIGHEST NUMBERED NWC TO EXIST...

Like with the Myriad 6-in-1 NES game, it is interesting to see how high a number there has been. Conversely it is the same... all too interesting what the highest NWC number could be... However I don't know that that number has to do with how many there are, or "were".

It is notable that of the 90 won in the Festival, that those NWC's were not numbers 1 through 90, it turns out, as several winners have surfaced with prizes that didn't fit in that bracket.

So... More than ninety were constructed, yes?

-Yes that is, so...

After the ninety were given to winners, were the ones left over that did not end up going to the nintendo staff (Sure to have happened with a few) and management end up being gathered up and hidden under the first party Protos in Nintendo's vault?

-The signs point to yes...

Other questions too?

-Yes...

Why did they need more than ninety anyway?

-I'll take a 15 minutes and get back to me...

Wait why are you talking to yourself in the second person again?

-I'm posing a question so I can give answers that someone else would want to know. Besides I'm not complaining, why should you be...

Eh, Heh, if you say so x_x

Dr. Morbis
11-15-2003, 12:14 AM
They were used for the actual competitions. In the early rounds they had to have a lot of kiosks set up to let all the kiddies get their crack at making it to their regional finals. The grey ones were not made to be given away as 'prizes', that was just an after-thought. They were produced FOR the competition. As such, they manufactured as many gray ones as they thought would be necessary for the tournament. It is the gold ones that were produced specifically as prizes for the NP contest.

Dr. Morbis
11-15-2003, 12:14 AM
They were used for the actual competitions. In the early rounds they had to have a lot of kiosks set up to let all the kiddies get their crack at making it to their regional finals. The grey ones were not made to be given away as 'prizes', that was just an after-thought. They were produced FOR the competition. As such, they manufactured as many gray ones as they thought would be necessary for the tournament. It is the gold ones that were produced specifically as prizes for the NP contest.

Balloon Fight
11-15-2003, 12:21 AM
Jeez, Dragoon wrote up his own little FAQ. ;)

I knew that there were more than 140, but i didnt know that there were over 200. X_x

And to think, people are still paying $1000 to get them. @_@

Balloon Fight
11-15-2003, 12:21 AM
Jeez, Dragoon wrote up his own little FAQ. ;)

I knew that there were more than 140, but i didnt know that there were over 200. X_x

And to think, people are still paying $1000 to get them. @_@

Dragoon
11-15-2003, 12:34 AM
The grey ones were not made to be given away as 'prizes', that was just an after-thought. They were produced FOR the competition. As such, they manufactured as many gray ones as they thought would be necessary for the tournament.

This may seem like a bad joke (warning :-P ) but on the contrary,

"The NWC carts were in fact, created, as a forethought, and to be given away as a prize. Players playing it IN the competition competed for the ultimate prize: a shot at taking down thier opponents to come away with a specially made contest game. playing the game in the competitions themselves was merely a segway to bring the most deseving patrons to the prize itself. That way each winner could come away with Nintendo's ultimate embodyment of service to thier most honerable fan... And the prize being of such an honor itself, that any extras needed for the competitions were gathered and locked away post haste, as not to make way to the hands of any ordinary citizen... .... .... ;) "

I think that my example of a statement stated there, whoever happens to say it LOL, can be construed as being as accurate as say... telling me that the NWC given as a prize was an AFTERTHOUGHT. I don't know that it was and niether should you since you were asking who works at Nintendo. It is entirely possible the Man who made the NWC a reality entirely planned the game to be MADE and to be used in the competition IN ORDER to then be GIVEN AWAY as the prize! It was an integral a part of his planning as any of the other aspects I say. Yes the person who thought that up was a genius, yes... :o

Honestly, I just wrote that up not because I belive all that. Instead it is a vehichle that can be used to show you that a person can make something up that they don't really "know". Because I don't "know" any of that last statement for sure and I don't think Morbis knows all of that either. ;) Dually notable is that unless you were actually there in the meeting and were planning for how the NWC would be applied then you cannot prove that either of us, is in fact, wrong... But that certainly does not make either of us right about our assumptions now. Though enough fun for now... ;)

Dragoon
11-15-2003, 12:34 AM
The grey ones were not made to be given away as 'prizes', that was just an after-thought. They were produced FOR the competition. As such, they manufactured as many gray ones as they thought would be necessary for the tournament.

This may seem like a bad joke (warning :-P ) but on the contrary,

"The NWC carts were in fact, created, as a forethought, and to be given away as a prize. Players playing it IN the competition competed for the ultimate prize: a shot at taking down thier opponents to come away with a specially made contest game. playing the game in the competitions themselves was merely a segway to bring the most deseving patrons to the prize itself. That way each winner could come away with Nintendo's ultimate embodyment of service to thier most honerable fan... And the prize being of such an honor itself, that any extras needed for the competitions were gathered and locked away post haste, as not to make way to the hands of any ordinary citizen... .... .... ;) "

I think that my example of a statement stated there, whoever happens to say it LOL, can be construed as being as accurate as say... telling me that the NWC given as a prize was an AFTERTHOUGHT. I don't know that it was and niether should you since you were asking who works at Nintendo. It is entirely possible the Man who made the NWC a reality entirely planned the game to be MADE and to be used in the competition IN ORDER to then be GIVEN AWAY as the prize! It was an integral a part of his planning as any of the other aspects I say. Yes the person who thought that up was a genius, yes... :o

Honestly, I just wrote that up not because I belive all that. Instead it is a vehichle that can be used to show you that a person can make something up that they don't really "know". Because I don't "know" any of that last statement for sure and I don't think Morbis knows all of that either. ;) Dually notable is that unless you were actually there in the meeting and were planning for how the NWC would be applied then you cannot prove that either of us, is in fact, wrong... But that certainly does not make either of us right about our assumptions now. Though enough fun for now... ;)

Dr. Morbis
11-15-2003, 01:28 AM
In your previous post you asked the following question:

Why did they need more than ninety anyway?

I was offering you an answer, which is: they were not made just to be given away, they were made FOR the tournament. You must have initially overlooked this.

They did not spend millions of dollars in order to give away NWC cartridges to 90 snot-nosed kids. That was not the point of the tournament. That is laughable. The point was to whip up the entire nation into a nintendo fervor. Their goal was to have every kid in the US eating, breathing, and sleeping, Nintendo.

Giving them away as prizes was probably an afterthought, and a pretty clever one. They had the carts already made for the tournament, they had no real use once the tournament was over, and winners need prizes. Here's an idea: let's kill three birds with one stone and give the carts to the kids who win! Clever, very clever...

And obviously this is all based on assumption. Anyone offering information in this thread is basing it on their own observations and assumptions. That's a given. Nobody here worked for Nintendo in 1990.

Dr. Morbis
11-15-2003, 01:28 AM
In your previous post you asked the following question:

Why did they need more than ninety anyway?

I was offering you an answer, which is: they were not made just to be given away, they were made FOR the tournament. You must have initially overlooked this.

They did not spend millions of dollars in order to give away NWC cartridges to 90 snot-nosed kids. That was not the point of the tournament. That is laughable. The point was to whip up the entire nation into a nintendo fervor. Their goal was to have every kid in the US eating, breathing, and sleeping, Nintendo.

Giving them away as prizes was probably an afterthought, and a pretty clever one. They had the carts already made for the tournament, they had no real use once the tournament was over, and winners need prizes. Here's an idea: let's kill three birds with one stone and give the carts to the kids who win! Clever, very clever...

And obviously this is all based on assumption. Anyone offering information in this thread is basing it on their own observations and assumptions. That's a given. Nobody here worked for Nintendo in 1990.

Dragoon
11-15-2003, 01:48 AM
Jeez, Dragoon wrote up his own little FAQ.

Oh, so I did 8-) If I finidsh it I'll add it to an article and be sure to add it to a NES Web site. I purposely left it off on a cliffhanger just in case though.



I knew that there were more than 140, but i didnt know that there were over 200. X_x

And to think, people are still paying $1000 to get them. @_@


If you didn't know about that then there's one more you may see here:

http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/toymachine/heh.txt

The owner himself is was a member here. This was for a contest on the board once.



They did not spend millions of dollars in order to give away NWC cartridges to 90 snot-nosed kids

Well I guess when making any assumption that it becomes usefull to point it out later. Again, I'm not overseeing things, and I'm not touting out things that I don't know for a fact, when [I] am[/] unsure about something I'll clarify it. I will respond to your paraphrasing, although the bigger picture is that if people did thier devotion to set the winners of the competitions apart, who didn't have to be the super rich to compete, may well have been the thing that makes Nintendo a company that may or may not have more than nine lives, and based on that reason, what it is I still don't know, could play a role in what consoles will still be around when next time comes around. :-P :evil:

Dragoon
11-15-2003, 01:48 AM
Jeez, Dragoon wrote up his own little FAQ.

Oh, so I did 8-) If I finidsh it I'll add it to an article and be sure to add it to a NES Web site. I purposely left it off on a cliffhanger just in case though.



I knew that there were more than 140, but i didnt know that there were over 200. X_x

And to think, people are still paying $1000 to get them. @_@


If you didn't know about that then there's one more you may see here:

http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/toymachine/heh.txt

The owner himself is was a member here. This was for a contest on the board once.



They did not spend millions of dollars in order to give away NWC cartridges to 90 snot-nosed kids

Well I guess when making any assumption that it becomes usefull to point it out later. Again, I'm not overseeing things, and I'm not touting out things that I don't know for a fact, when [I] am[/] unsure about something I'll clarify it. I will respond to your paraphrasing, although the bigger picture is that if people did thier devotion to set the winners of the competitions apart, who didn't have to be the super rich to compete, may well have been the thing that makes Nintendo a company that may or may not have more than nine lives, and based on that reason, what it is I still don't know, could play a role in what consoles will still be around when next time comes around. :-P :evil:

Dr. Morbis
11-15-2003, 02:03 AM
Again, I'm not the one overseeing things, and I'm not touting out things that I don't know for a fact, when [I] am[/] unsure about something or need information I'll clarify it. I will respond to your paraphrasing, although the bigger picture is that thier devotion to set the winners of the competitions apart, who didn't have to be the super rich to compete, may well have been the thing that makes Nintendo a company that may or may not have more than nine lives, and based on that reason, what it is I still don't know, could play a role in what consoles will still be around when next time comes around.

You lost me after the first sentence. I have no idea what the second super long run-on sentence is supposed to mean. You start it with "I will respond to your paraphrasing" and end the sentence with "could play a role in what consoles will still be around when the next time comes around"! WOW! It's like you tried to sum up the history of videogames from 1990 to now, and at the same time, link the NWC tournament to Nintendo's current position in the industry, ALL IN ONE SENTENCE!!!. Or not, I don't know. Talk about convoluted...

Dr. Morbis
11-15-2003, 02:03 AM
Again, I'm not the one overseeing things, and I'm not touting out things that I don't know for a fact, when [I] am[/] unsure about something or need information I'll clarify it. I will respond to your paraphrasing, although the bigger picture is that thier devotion to set the winners of the competitions apart, who didn't have to be the super rich to compete, may well have been the thing that makes Nintendo a company that may or may not have more than nine lives, and based on that reason, what it is I still don't know, could play a role in what consoles will still be around when next time comes around.

You lost me after the first sentence. I have no idea what the second super long run-on sentence is supposed to mean. You start it with "I will respond to your paraphrasing" and end the sentence with "could play a role in what consoles will still be around when the next time comes around"! WOW! It's like you tried to sum up the history of videogames from 1990 to now, and at the same time, link the NWC tournament to Nintendo's current position in the industry, ALL IN ONE SENTENCE!!!. Or not, I don't know. Talk about convoluted...

Dragoon
11-15-2003, 02:12 AM
Eh, heh.. Don't lecture me, I, ... Wait a minute... "con-vo-lu-ted..." Don't make me laugh. But while you were editing your previous post before last, I was doing the same in order to make up ground on the new stuff you had added to the dialogue. I was editing it to reflect what your edit in your last post said, but you're not taking many breaks in between posts, and added your last post before I was done. :angry: So on that last post of yours where I don't make sense to you that would be the reason why I am obligated to point this out now. As for the remarkable things you were pointing out in your edit a post back before last; I lost track of and ended up going on a tangent. Man those tangents are... :-P

Dragoon
11-15-2003, 02:12 AM
Eh, heh.. Don't lecture me, I, ... Wait a minute... "con-vo-lu-ted..." Don't make me laugh. But while you were editing your previous post before last, I was doing the same in order to make up ground on the new stuff you had added to the dialogue. I was editing it to reflect what your edit in your last post said, but you're not taking many breaks in between posts, and added your last post before I was done. :angry: So on that last post of yours where I don't make sense to you that would be the reason why I am obligated to point this out now. As for the remarkable things you were pointing out in your edit a post back before last; I lost track of and ended up going on a tangent. Man those tangents are... :-P

Dr. Morbis
11-15-2003, 02:36 AM
Well, I don't want to get into a whole battlezone type of argument with you here. I'm saying that giving out NWC carts to the winners was NOT the purpose for holding the tournament. You, are saying that it is. I am basing this on your quote:
the bigger picture is that if people did thier devotion to set the winners of the competitions apart, who didn't have to be the super rich to compete,
The sentence that the above quote is in is difficult for me to understand, but it sounds like you are saying the following: Nintendo really REALLY wanted to somehow set the winners of their tournament apart from all the losers. To do this they decided to give them a cart that they KNEW would be worth thousands in years to come. Since Nintendo is SOOOO nice, they even allowed poor kids to participate in the tournament and try to win this cart that they KNEW would one day be super expensive . It is this type of charity that enables Nintendo to have "9 lives". Correct?

That explanation is friggin hilarious to me. Then again, we obviously have different perspectives :)

Dr. Morbis
11-15-2003, 02:36 AM
Well, I don't want to get into a whole battlezone type of argument with you here. I'm saying that giving out NWC carts to the winners was NOT the purpose for holding the tournament. You, are saying that it is. I am basing this on your quote:
the bigger picture is that if people did thier devotion to set the winners of the competitions apart, who didn't have to be the super rich to compete,
The sentence that the above quote is in is difficult for me to understand, but it sounds like you are saying the following: Nintendo really REALLY wanted to somehow set the winners of their tournament apart from all the losers. To do this they decided to give them a cart that they KNEW would be worth thousands in years to come. Since Nintendo is SOOOO nice, they even allowed poor kids to participate in the tournament and try to win this cart that they KNEW would one day be super expensive . It is this type of charity that enables Nintendo to have "9 lives". Correct?

That explanation is friggin hilarious to me. Then again, we obviously have different perspectives :)

Dragoon
11-15-2003, 02:54 AM
Forget the battlezone because we're setting the NWC on fire, this can stay right where it is. I think there is enough interest and confusion about the subject to make it purposeful in a positive wayl ;)


I'm saying that giving out NWC carts to the winners was NOT the purpose for holding the tournament. You, are saying that it is. I am basing this on your quote:

You didn't have to write anything after that. I said that the purpose of the tournement was made to give the winners the cart yes but in the next line if you had read it you might see that I just made up a phony opinion about how I thought the carts were made just so the winners could have them. That would be laughable if I truely was this single minded. But you are over looking that I just wanted to give an equally contrasting statement (rediculous or not, I stated that I didn't actually believe in it.) to your's to prove a point that you maybe overlooked yourself which is this:


Honestly, I just wrote that up not because I belive all that. Instead it is a vehichle that can be used to show you that a person can make something up that they don't really "know". Because I don't "know" any of that last statement for sure and I don't think Morbis knows all of that either. Dually notable is that unless you were actually there in the meeting and were planning for how the NWC would be applied then you cannot prove that either of us, is in fact, wrong... But that certainly does not make either of us right about our assumptions now.

And finally:



That explanation is friggin hilarious to me.

which one? Oh this one, yes it is ironic though that the page break came up just when it was getting so true.


Eh, heh.. Don't lecture me, I, ... Wait a minute... "con-vo-lu-ted..." Don't make me laugh. But while you were editing your previous post before last, I was doing the same in order to make up ground on the new stuff you had added to the dialogue. I was editing it to reflect what your edit in your last post said, but you're not taking many breaks in between posts, and added your last post before I was done. :evil: So on that last post of yours where I don't make sense to you that would be the reason why I am obligated to point this out now. As for the remarkable things you were pointing out in your edit a post back before last; I lost track of and ended up going on a tangent. Man those tangents are... :P

6 times is too many, yes x_x

Dragoon
11-15-2003, 02:54 AM
Forget the battlezone because we're setting the NWC on fire, this can stay right where it is. I think there is enough interest and confusion about the subject to make it purposeful in a positive wayl ;)


I'm saying that giving out NWC carts to the winners was NOT the purpose for holding the tournament. You, are saying that it is. I am basing this on your quote:

You didn't have to write anything after that. I said that the purpose of the tournement was made to give the winners the cart yes but in the next line if you had read it you might see that I just made up a phony opinion about how I thought the carts were made just so the winners could have them. That would be laughable if I truely was this single minded. But you are over looking that I just wanted to give an equally contrasting statement (rediculous or not, I stated that I didn't actually believe in it.) to your's to prove a point that you maybe overlooked yourself which is this:


Honestly, I just wrote that up not because I belive all that. Instead it is a vehichle that can be used to show you that a person can make something up that they don't really "know". Because I don't "know" any of that last statement for sure and I don't think Morbis knows all of that either. Dually notable is that unless you were actually there in the meeting and were planning for how the NWC would be applied then you cannot prove that either of us, is in fact, wrong... But that certainly does not make either of us right about our assumptions now.

And finally:



That explanation is friggin hilarious to me.

which one? Oh this one, yes it is ironic though that the page break came up just when it was getting so true.


Eh, heh.. Don't lecture me, I, ... Wait a minute... "con-vo-lu-ted..." Don't make me laugh. But while you were editing your previous post before last, I was doing the same in order to make up ground on the new stuff you had added to the dialogue. I was editing it to reflect what your edit in your last post said, but you're not taking many breaks in between posts, and added your last post before I was done. :evil: So on that last post of yours where I don't make sense to you that would be the reason why I am obligated to point this out now. As for the remarkable things you were pointing out in your edit a post back before last; I lost track of and ended up going on a tangent. Man those tangents are... :P

6 times is too many, yes x_x

Dragoon
11-15-2003, 02:59 AM
I'm mixed up and double posted. I need a drink now but I'm curious about what I'd be celebrating though. :hmm:

Dragoon
11-15-2003, 02:59 AM
I'm mixed up and double posted. I need a drink now but I'm curious about what I'd be celebrating though. :hmm:

Dr. Morbis
11-15-2003, 03:06 AM
Two things:

1-When you are quoting yourself, you should make it EXPLICITLY CLEAR that you are doing so. Otherwise, the implication is that you are quoting someone else (me) and making said person look like a hypocritical idiot to whoever didn't read the thread in full.

2-Quoting yourself is redundant and pointless.

I stand by my assumption that awarding the NWC carts was NOT the purpose of the tournament, but an afterthought. I think we will just have to agree to disagree.

*edit* looks like you already fixed problem #1. Speaking of edits, you have edited 3 of your posts a whopping total of 13 times. And you were ragging on me for editing one post once x_x

Dr. Morbis
11-15-2003, 03:06 AM
Two things:

1-When you are quoting yourself, you should make it EXPLICITLY CLEAR that you are doing so. Otherwise, the implication is that you are quoting someone else (me) and making said person look like a hypocritical idiot to whoever didn't read the thread in full.

2-Quoting yourself is redundant and pointless.

I stand by my assumption that awarding the NWC carts was NOT the purpose of the tournament, but an afterthought. I think we will just have to agree to disagree.

*edit* looks like you already fixed problem #1. Speaking of edits, you have edited 3 of your posts a whopping total of 13 times. And you were ragging on me for editing one post once x_x

Dragoon
11-15-2003, 03:11 AM
Fixed that quoting thing.
If I edited a lot is just shows I am practicing patience, seriously though I'm looking at 7 photos of gray NWC from the ghost of ebay's past and 55 is lowest, 280 is the highest and one has a label half torn off (no number) :-P

I quoted myself because you said my response was hilarious, I agreed and I felt like including it since it was before the pagebreak, which I felt was ironic. It was hard to prove me wrong but I could care less if you proved to me that the carts were only made as an afterthought for the prize. All I cared about was proving to myself that it would be just it would be just as hard for someone to prove me wrong as it would be for someone to prove YOU right. We all have our reasons, I treat mine just as importantly even if they are just harder to see.

I said in my very first post where I made those statements that it "may" seem like a joke
This may seem like a bad joke (warning :-P ) but on the contrary,

I said that since I didn't expect 100% of everyone to get it, since of course there will be exceptions. And then this:


The NWC carts were in fact, created, as a forethought, and to be given away as a prize. .....(on down the ways in the same post)..... Honestly, I just wrote that up not because I belive all that.

I can continue to quote myself since i've been misquoted a little. I'll admit my message was confusing but I am not really concerned with how it all looks. I fixed the problem on specifying the quotes so there shouldn't be a problem. I expect great things from you Dr. Morbis, and you may add more if you like, you are actually a fun gamer to talk to. Don't let me fool you, I think we both did a smash job of disecting the topic. O_O

Dragoon
11-15-2003, 03:11 AM
Fixed that quoting thing.
If I edited a lot is just shows I am practicing patience, seriously though I'm looking at 7 photos of gray NWC from the ghost of ebay's past and 55 is lowest, 280 is the highest and one has a label half torn off (no number) :-P

I quoted myself because you said my response was hilarious, I agreed and I felt like including it since it was before the pagebreak, which I felt was ironic. It was hard to prove me wrong but I could care less if you proved to me that the carts were only made as an afterthought for the prize. All I cared about was proving to myself that it would be just it would be just as hard for someone to prove me wrong as it would be for someone to prove YOU right. We all have our reasons, I treat mine just as importantly even if they are just harder to see.

I said in my very first post where I made those statements that it "may" seem like a joke
This may seem like a bad joke (warning :-P ) but on the contrary,

I said that since I didn't expect 100% of everyone to get it, since of course there will be exceptions. And then this:


The NWC carts were in fact, created, as a forethought, and to be given away as a prize. .....(on down the ways in the same post)..... Honestly, I just wrote that up not because I belive all that.

I can continue to quote myself since i've been misquoted a little. I'll admit my message was confusing but I am not really concerned with how it all looks. I fixed the problem on specifying the quotes so there shouldn't be a problem. I expect great things from you Dr. Morbis, and you may add more if you like, you are actually a fun gamer to talk to. Don't let me fool you, I think we both did a smash job of disecting the topic. O_O

Dr. Morbis
11-15-2003, 02:38 PM
I haven't been saving pics of all of the gray NWC's that have popped up on eBay. I do, however, remember that the one that was in the 300's was a fuzzy pic. It could have easily been a x2xx but I thought it was a '3' at the time. Did you save that pic too?

Dr. Morbis
11-15-2003, 02:38 PM
I haven't been saving pics of all of the gray NWC's that have popped up on eBay. I do, however, remember that the one that was in the 300's was a fuzzy pic. It could have easily been a x2xx but I thought it was a '3' at the time. Did you save that pic too?

portnoyd
11-15-2003, 03:54 PM
Ummm... wow.

How about this: It's irrelevant about why NOA gave away the carts, and their reasoning. 90 of them are out there, given away to winners. There were approximately 300 made, 280 at the least. Some of the extras, outside of the 90, DID leak out; I have proof. The rest are most likely squirreled away with the Campus Challenge carts in Vancouver.

The end. :shameful:

portnoyd
11-15-2003, 03:54 PM
Ummm... wow.

How about this: It's irrelevant about why NOA gave away the carts, and their reasoning. 90 of them are out there, given away to winners. There were approximately 300 made, 280 at the least. Some of the extras, outside of the 90, DID leak out; I have proof. The rest are most likely squirreled away with the Campus Challenge carts in Vancouver.

The end. :shameful:

Balloon Fight
11-15-2003, 04:06 PM
The end. :shameful:

Amen.

Balloon Fight
11-15-2003, 04:06 PM
The end. :shameful:

Amen.

Qixmaster
11-16-2003, 03:58 AM
Ummm... wow.

How about this: It's irrelevant about why NOA gave away the carts, and their reasoning. 90 of them are out there, given away to winners. There were approximately 300 made, 280 at the least. Some of the extras, outside of the 90, DID leak out; I have proof. The rest are most likely squirreled away with the Campus Challenge carts in Vancouver.

The end. :shameful:

oh vancouver washington? i'm 2 hours away from there, i could go break in.... then again probably not the best idea.

Qixmaster
11-16-2003, 03:58 AM
Ummm... wow.

How about this: It's irrelevant about why NOA gave away the carts, and their reasoning. 90 of them are out there, given away to winners. There were approximately 300 made, 280 at the least. Some of the extras, outside of the 90, DID leak out; I have proof. The rest are most likely squirreled away with the Campus Challenge carts in Vancouver.

The end. :shameful:

oh vancouver washington? i'm 2 hours away from there, i could go break in.... then again probably not the best idea.

suppafly
11-16-2003, 10:31 AM
Take it easy guys, lets just respect other people+s theories about the origin of the NWC carts :roll:

suppafly
11-16-2003, 10:31 AM
Take it easy guys, lets just respect other people+s theories about the origin of the NWC carts :roll: