HELP WANTED: PAL Dreamcast List (especially need UK infos)

[hydr0x]

ok here we go, as you might know, i'm the one making the (future) PAL Dreamcast List. I already have a complete list, what i'm missing are a lot of label variations/national releases and the part-numbers

first, i need some input on this question: Which code on the game is the real part-number i should use?? first i assumed it's the 820-XXXX-XX on the front cover, but that seems to be wrong. to make the problem clearer, an example:

German release of "Tee Off":

Front Cover: 820-0248-50 (the same for all european versions)
Back Cover: 820-0249-18 (german text only)
Disc: 830-0077-50 (same for all european versions)
Manual: 810-0124-18 (german text only)

pretty obvious that those are not the codes to use :(

than i noticed another code-format:

Disc: T-8108D-50
Back Cover/Spine : T-8108D-18
Manual: T-8108D-18
Front Cover: not there

this seems to be the correct one, though i also have got games that start with MK instead of T, no idea what this means, what i'm wanting to use is the code shown on the spine as this one represents the different releases, the one on the disc is the same for most releases as dc-games always feature all major languages or only english. Do you think i'm doing the right thing??

As my dc collection is not complete yet, i need your help, could you make a list of all pal dc games you have with the used code (the one on the spine pls). there are too many missing right now to make a list due to the fact that a lot of my games are -18 (german releases). i will make a list what's missing after the first submissions though :) oh and if you have enough time, pls also state which languages are on the back cover, i want to include this in the list

i think everyone who helps to complete the code-list will be mentioned as contributor on the list, haven't talked to joe about this yet though!!


oh and one last thing: Does anyone have a complete list of the sega country codes at the end, i know these:

xxxx-03 = ??
xxxx-05 = UK
xxxx-06 = Spain
xxxx-09 = France
xxxx-18 = Germany (probably also Switzerland and Austria ?????? )
xxxx-20 = Holland (?) (probably even Benelux??)
xxxx-50 = Europe-wide
^^ list taken from anagrama i think, could also be another european member of the board, sorry can't remember

xxxx-71 = ?? no idea, my vigilante 8 2nd offense has this one, it has german and english text on back cover and manual, any ideas?

[anagrama]

For the Megadrive list, I've used the codes from the spine, since it seems the most 'universal', but given your Tee Off example, it seems the manual/box were localized for Germany, while the same discs were used Europe wide.
I'd suggest using the code on the disc (xxxxx-50) as the main code, and listing regional variations in the description, but this is up to you.

Games with MK-xxxxx are 1st Party (Sega-published) games, while those starting T-xxxxx are 3rd Party games.

I'll check my 60 or so PAL games as soon as I get the chance, and let you know the details. I think I've got another couple of code variations aswell (xxxx-23, possibly others).

[hydr0x]

i'm not sure about the regional variations, we also had this discussion with the pal snes list

on the one hand is the game itself the same, but on the other hand do the boxes/covers differ (sometimes more obvious, sometimes less) and i don't want to have people search hours to find out which variations there are

[anagrama]

It seems daft to include 5 or 6 entries for a single game though. Personally, I'd list it something like this:

Tee Off Golf - Acclaim - R?/$?
T-xxxx-50. Released ?/?/??. Also released in German [T-xxxx-18] and French [T-xxxx-09] packaging.

[digitalpress]

I'll sticky this for a day or two to be sure it gets some attention from our Euro-pals.

As most of you know, we're on an inexorable, juggernaut course to produce a truly remarkable collector's guide next summer. The nature of the book (16-bit and up, all countries) will require lots of assistance. If you become a significant contributor you're pretty much guaranteed that you'll be listed on the contributors page, you may even get a copy of the book for free when it's published... but hopefully everyone can team together and add, delete... "tweak" contents so that it's just right - PERFECT - by press time.

Thanks!

[hydr0x]

thx Joe, what do you think about the region variations?

[hydr0x]

It seems daft to include 5 or 6 entries for a single game though. Personally, I'd list it something like this:

Tee Off Golf - Acclaim - R?/$?
T-xxxx-50. Released ?/?/??. Also released in German [T-xxxx-18] and French [T-xxxx-09] packaging.


mhhh the problem with this could be: there might be some games that don't have a -50 version at all, maybe all games with an -18 version don't have an -50 as -50 stands for releases in whole europe and this would include germany, but germany had his own release ;)

[digitalpress]

thx Joe, what do you think about the region variations?

We try to keep packaging variations contained within the description of the title itself. So if the German release of a game has different box art than the one the rest of Europe got but the game is otherwise the same, this variation should be listed in the descriptive field rather than listing the whole game out again as a new entry.

Does that answer the question?

[anagrama]

Well, naturally, I'd only include the xxxx-50 variation if it appeared on the spine/disc. The Tee-Off example you used shows that the disc is universal, while it's just the box/manual that was localized.
It's probably best to gather a whole load of data first, and to then try and make sense of the details.

[hydr0x]

thx Joe, what do you think about the region variations?

We try to keep packaging variations contained within the description of the title itself. So if the German release of a game has different box art than the one the rest of Europe got but the game is otherwise the same, this variation should be listed in the descriptive field rather than listing the whole game out again as a new entry.

Does that answer the question?

yes it does, though i'm not really happy with that, you know, that rule was made when thinking of label variations between several us releases and such stuff, but those variations were all in the same country, the european variations are all releases for different countries, sometimes even with different publishers, for me personally this is a whole lot more difference than between two label variations in the US

[anagrama]

What games have different publishers?

And the way I'd look at it is like this:
[Barring extreme cases] No-one is going to try and collect EVERY PAL game in EVERY regional variation.

Someone with a complete PAL set (215 games + bleemcast etc) should be able to tick off every box in the list, therefore, each game should only be listed once in the main list, while variations should be mentioned within the text.

[hydr0x]

mhhh that's exactly my problem, i AM thinking about getting all variations :o

but of course you've got a good point there with the checklist, but the guide should be more than a checklist, there are enough dc checklists on the net that fit on one page, everyone can use those, the guide should not only be a checklist, it should give as much info about games and releases as there is

mh don't know an example for different publisher out of my head for dc, but for snes (that list has the region problem too) there are the Laguna games in germany, most of them had other publishers in the rest of europe

[hydr0x]

mh found two new country codes:

-53 on my Virtua Fighter (English&French&German&Spanish on box and manual)

-61 on my Wild Metal (English&Spanish&Italian on box and manual)

[hydr0x]

ok, found even more -64 and -87, i think you're right, i'll list all those variations in the description, there seem to be just too many weird ones...

what about this solution:

Tee Off Example

as part-number i'll use: T-8108D-XX (yeah with XX)

and as description: "variations: -18 (German), -50 (Rest of Europe)"

[anagrama]

what about this solution:

Tee Off Example

as part-number i'll use: T-8108D-XX (yeah with XX)

and as description: "variations: -18 (German), -50 (Rest of Europe)"

Yeah, something like that seems reasonable (to me, at least). You might want to mention whether the game itself is translated into German/French/Spanish etc. or if it's multilingual (choose language on start-up).

[hydr0x]

what about this solution:

Tee Off Example

as part-number i'll use: T-8108D-XX (yeah with XX)

and as description: "variations: -18 (German), -50 (Rest of Europe)"

Yeah, something like that seems reasonable (to me, at least). You might want to mention whether the game itself is translated into German/French/Spanish etc. or if it's multilingual (choose language on start-up).

Yeah, i've already noticed that fault thx, i changed the format:

tee off again

part-number: T-8108-50

description: "packaging variations: -18 (German), -50 (English, French and Spanish)"

if the disc itself has another code i'll list the game as an different game, i found that e.g. GTA 2 has an -18 disc and there are two GTA 2 in the list now

[Mayhem]

what about this solution:

Tee Off Example

as part-number i'll use: T-8108D-XX (yeah with XX)

Sounds good. I use the same process for the Sierra C64 cartridge releases as they follow a template, but have different numbers at the end even within the same game release. Revision, or batch numbers I don't know however.

[digitalpress]

what about this solution:

Tee Off Example

as part-number i'll use: T-8108D-XX (yeah with XX)

Sounds good. I use the same process for the Sierra C64 cartridge releases as they follow a template, but have different numbers at the end even within the same game release. Revision, or batch numbers I don't know however.

Roger that. I think this solution makes everyone happy while not over-cluttering a section with the same title again and again.

[Arrrhalomynn]

I have these dreamcast games:
http://markdegeweldenaar.spellenmarkt.nl/gamerooms/console.php?cons_id=666&consolenaam=Sega%20Dreamcast

But after reading all this, I'm confused what I have to do. You want to know the code of the instructions manual, the disc and inlay of all of these?

[hydr0x]

ah our dutch friend :)

i hoped you'd join in here ;) this is what i exactly need:

i need the complete T-XXXXXD-XX number on the spine/back cover, then you'll have to look at the cd-label and find a number with the same format, i need to know with which nr it ends (the -XX), after that, it would be great if you could also check which languages are on the back cover and list them

that's all you've got to do, i just looked at your collection and i think it could help me a lot, especially because you are dutch and i expect you've got a lot of benelux and dutch releases which are of course missing in my list :)

[Arrrhalomynn]

You're not interested in the manual number?

[hydr0x]

no, just the one on the spine and the one on the cd

[Arrrhalomynn]

If you want to know where the games have been released it might be a good idea to include the manual as well. It happens quite often that a game has an english box and english cd, but a dutch manual. If you'd only have the box and cd number, you'd never know it had a release outside the UK.

[hydr0x]

If you want to know where the games have been released it might be a good idea to include the manual as well. It happens quite often that a game has an english box and english cd, but a dutch manual. If you'd only have the box and cd number, you'd never know it had a release outside the UK.

nah, as far as i can see (i have some few dutch releases and of course some german), the number on the spine is ALWAYS representing the languages the box/manual are in, i don't have a single game where the -XX code on the spine differs from the one on the manual, you just have to make sure you use the one on the spine, not one on the front cover (as the front cover is 95% the same for all european releases). I know that most discs have the -50 code on them as they are used in all the different european releases, that's why i need both, the spine code and the end of the cd-code

if u want to you can of course also check the manual codes and include them, but i'm pretty sure it won't differ from the spine code once!!

one last note: DON'T USE the 820-XXXXX-XX style code (or 830), always use the one beginning with T- or MK-

[Arrrhalomynn]

I did about 30 games now, and it's getting pretty confusing.

I believe 59 is benelux, since they all have french and dutch cases. 58 and 61 have the same languages, and 50 sometimes has 4 languages and sometimes 6.
Evil Twin has 71 as well, with English, German, French and spanish on the case. As if it's a 50 game.

[hydr0x]

yeah there are masses of codes, it's very confusing, but i already have found a way to put all the info into the list, just list the codes and i'll know what to do ;)

thx for ur help btw :D

[devilman]

I've got a few UK Dreamcast games on my site (http://www.consolemad.com). Obviously it would take a while for me to go through them all but if you're in no hurry or want particular ones to be going on with, just let me know.

I've just sold these two games so before I bag them up for posting out, here are the details -

Carrier (UK DC)
Spine - T-44901D-50
Disc - T-44901D-50 also

Silver (UK DC)
Spine - T15109D-91
Disc - T15109D-91 also

[hydr0x]

@devilman, what languages did the two games have on the back cover?

don't be to sure about them being UK, e.g. Carrier seems to be an overall european release

don't be worried about time too much, the only important thing is that i make the deadline for the advance guide ;)

[devilman]

Heh.. I was just about to seal them away then! :D

Silver - English & Dutch
Carrier - English, French, German & Spanish

[hydr0x]

thx, seems as if both are not uk-only releases ;)

carrier is a european release
silver seems to be a uk+benelux release (didn't have a -91 before), i'm pretty sure there is a true german version of the game though

[devilman]

I wasn't suggesting that they were UK-only releases - just that it's where I bought them... sorry for the confusion. ;)

I have the week off next week so I might have a rummage through the rest of the games and get you some more numbers. :)

[hydr0x]

I wasn't suggesting that they were UK-only releases - just that it's where I bought them... sorry for the confusion. ;)

I have the week off next week so I might have a rummage through the rest of the games and get you some more numbers. :)

great, any help is appreciated

[Parodius]

Headhunter
spine: MK-51041-50 E, F, G, and Sp on back
disc: MK-51041-50
purchased in Sweden
---
GK-Giant Killers
Spine: T-45401D-50 English only on the back
Disc: same number
Purchased in the UK
---
Pro Pinball Trilogy
Spine: T-30701D-09 French only on the back.
disc: T-30701D-50
Purchased in France
---
Fighting Vipers 2
spine: MK-51154-50 E,F,G,Sp on back
disc: MK-51154-50
Purchased in Sweden
---
Stunt GP
spine:T-22904D-50 E,F,Sp,G,It, and dutch on back
disc:T-22904D-50
purchased in France
---
Taxi 2: Le Jeu
spine:T-17708D-09 French only on back
disc: T-17708D-09
---
90 Minutes: Sega Championship Football
spine:MK-51190-50 E, F, G, Sp on back
disc: MK-51190-50
---
Shenmue 2
MK-51184-50 E,F,G,Sp on back
discs: MK-51184-50
---
Jimmy White's 2: Cueball
spine: T-7001D-50 E,F,G,It,Sp on back
disc: T-7001D-50
---
Toy Racer
spine: MK-51149-50 E,G,F,Sp on back
disc: MK-51149-50
---
Aqua GT
spine: T-40509D-50 E,F,G on back
disc: T-40509D50 (no dash before the 50 on the disc)
---
Who Wants to be a millionaire?
spine: T-36811D-05 E only
disc:T-36811D-05
Purchased in the UK.
---
F1 Racing Championship
spine: T-17706D-50 E,G,F,dutch, it, and sp on back
disc: T-17706D-50
---
MoHo
spine: T-40508D-50 E and German on the back
disc: T-40508D-50
---
V-Rally 2: Expert Edition
spine: T-15105D-05 E only on back
disc: T-15105D-50
---
Planet Ring
MK-51225-50 on spine

Outer cardboard box has no numbers. Eng, French, German and Spanish on the back.
Purchased in Sweden
---

Hope these help. I have a few more and one of my friends has a lot more so if there are any specific ones you need, just ask.

[hydr0x]

hey, thx, those help :)

they also raise some questions though:

i always thought Giant Killers was only released in the UK, and as you said it has only English text on the box, yould you pls check again if both box and disc really have -50 at the end and not -05?? thx

there is a french Pro Pinball? that's new to me, always thought there were only a UK and a German release :)

thx for Taxi 2, very important one ;)

i think the missing dash in the aqua gt code is a typo made by the label designer, i won't include that

[digitalpress]

I've updated the Dreamcast database to include your research - it will be online in a few hours. Keep up the great work!

[tinsair]

I only need 27 more DC games so if you need any help with a specific title I will more than likley have the game. :)

[Parodius]

hey, thx, those help :)

they also raise some questions though:

i always thought Giant Killers was only released in the UK, and as you said it has only English text on the box, yould you pls check again if both box and disc really have -50 at the end and not -05?? thx

there is a french Pro Pinball? that's new to me, always thought there were only a UK and a German release :)

thx for Taxi 2, very important one ;)

i think the missing dash in the aqua gt code is a typo made by the label designer, i won't include that


Yup. Giant Killers is -50 both on the spine and disc.

[hydr0x]

ok, here's a list whats missing:

completly missing games:

see new updated list further down

[Daltone]

SFIII: Double Impact

Disc - T-7006D-50
Spine - Same
Bought in the UK.
Languages on the back in English, French, Spainish, German and Itailian

[devilman]

Dynamite Cop
Spine - MK-51013-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French, German, Spanish

Evolution
Spine - T-17705D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, Spanish

Gauntlet Legends
Spine - T-9707D-61
Disc - T-9707D-50
Languages - English, Italian, Spanish

NBA 2K2
Spine - MK-51178-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French, German, Spanish

NFL Quarterback Club 2000
Spine - T-8102D-05
Disc - T-8102D-50
Languages - English

The Nomad Soul
Spine - T-36805D-05
Disc - T-36805D-61
Languages - English

[Ruudos]

mh don't know an example for different publisher out of my head for dc, but for snes (that list has the region problem too) there are the Laguna games in germany, most of them had other publishers in the rest of europe

Are there any games where Laguna is mentioned in the game itself, at the copyright screen? Otherwise I think you're messing up publishers with distributors. I know it's confusing, Sony Electronic Publishing Company is even worse with this case.

[hydr0x]

Evolution
Spine - T-17705D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, Spanish


no wonder that one is hard to get in germany, only released in the UK and Spain?? what were they thinking :angry:

thx you two for your help

[hydr0x]

Evolution
Spine - T-17705D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, Spanish


no wonder that one is hard to get in germany, only released in the UK and Spain?? what were they thinking :angry:

thx you two for your help

[tinsair]

Tomb Raider Chronicles
Spine - T-36815D-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Rogue Spear
Spine - T-45002D-61
Disc - Same
Languages - English, Italian & Spanish

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
Spine - T-45001D-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English

Walt Disney World Quest Magical Racing Tour
Spine - T-36809D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English

WWF Royal Rumble
Spine - T-10003D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, German, French, Italian & Spanish

More Soon :)

[tinsair]

Tomb Raider Chronicles
Spine - T-36815D-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Rogue Spear
Spine - T-45002D-61
Disc - Same
Languages - English, Italian & Spanish

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
Spine - T-45001D-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English

Walt Disney World Quest Magical Racing Tour
Spine - T-36809D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English

WWF Royal Rumble
Spine - T-10003D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, German, French, Italian & Spanish

More Soon :)

[tinsair]

Here's Some More

Caesars Palace 2000
Spine - T-12502D-61
Disc - T-12502D-50
Languages - English, Spanish & Italian

Dino Crisis
Spine - T-7019D-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English

Disney's Dinosaur
Spine - T-17718D-84
Disc - T-17718D-50
Languages - English, Spanish, German, Italian & French

Dragon Riders
Spine - T-17716D-91
Disc - T-17716D-50
Languages - English, French & Dutch

ECW Anarchy Rulz
Spine - T8119D-05
Disc - T-8119D-50
Languages - English

ESPN Track & Field
Spine - T-9504D-76
Disc - T-9504D-50
Languages - English, Spanish & Dutch

European Super League
Spine - T-7015D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French, German, Spanish, Portugese & Italian

Evil Dead: Hail To The King
Spine - T-100050-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English & Italian

Heavy Metal: Geomatrix
Spine - T-46602D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French, German & Spanish

Iron Aces
Spine - T-44904D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French, German & Spanish

More Again Soon :)

[tinsair]

Here's Some More

Caesars Palace 2000
Spine - T-12502D-61
Disc - T-12502D-50
Languages - English, Spanish & Italian

Dino Crisis
Spine - T-7019D-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English

Disney's Dinosaur
Spine - T-17718D-84
Disc - T-17718D-50
Languages - English, Spanish, German, Italian & French

Dragon Riders
Spine - T-17716D-91
Disc - T-17716D-50
Languages - English, French & Dutch

ECW Anarchy Rulz
Spine - T8119D-05
Disc - T-8119D-50
Languages - English

ESPN Track & Field
Spine - T-9504D-76
Disc - T-9504D-50
Languages - English, Spanish & Dutch

European Super League
Spine - T-7015D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French, German, Spanish, Portugese & Italian

Evil Dead: Hail To The King
Spine - T-100050-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English & Italian

Heavy Metal: Geomatrix
Spine - T-46602D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French, German & Spanish

Iron Aces
Spine - T-44904D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French, German & Spanish

More Again Soon :)

[hydr0x]

Evil Dead: Hail To The King
Spine - T-100050-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English & Italian


could you please confirm that one? two things make me wonder, first: a -05 spine-code on an English & Italian back cover? is the number on the back also -05??
second thing: T-100050(!!)-05, could it be that it's T-100050D-05 or T-10005D-05 instead? normally there should be an D in there and the number with 0 seems a bit long...

[hydr0x]

Evil Dead: Hail To The King
Spine - T-100050-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English & Italian


could you please confirm that one? two things make me wonder, first: a -05 spine-code on an English & Italian back cover? is the number on the back also -05??
second thing: T-100050(!!)-05, could it be that it's T-100050D-05 or T-10005D-05 instead? normally there should be an D in there and the number with 0 seems a bit long...

[tinsair]

Yes it is a D instead of an 0 sorry my mistake, but it does have -05 at the end but the language was Spanish not Italian I must have overlooked it!

So here it is again:

Spine - T-10005D-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English & Spanish

Hope that helps, I'll have some more soon just got to sort my games out :)

[tinsair]

Yes it is a D instead of an 0 sorry my mistake, but it does have -05 at the end but the language was Spanish not Italian I must have overlooked it!

So here it is again:

Spine - T-10005D-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English & Spanish

Hope that helps, I'll have some more soon just got to sort my games out :)

[KJN]

Here's Cannon spike

Cannon Spike
Spine: T-46601D-50
Disc: Same
Languages on the back: E, F, G, Sp
Languages in the game: English
(purchased in Sweden)

[KJN]

Here's Cannon spike

Cannon Spike
Spine: T-46601D-50
Disc: Same
Languages on the back: E, F, G, Sp
Languages in the game: English
(purchased in Sweden)

[tinsair]

Here's my final installment:

Mortal Kombat Gold
Spine - T-9701D-61
Disc - T-9701D-50
Languages - English, Spanish & Italian

MTV Skateboarding
Spine - T-10001D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French & German

NBA Hoopz
Spine - T-9713D-61
Disc - T-9713D-50
Languages - English, Spanish & Italian

NBA Showtime
Spine - T-9705D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French & German

Pen Pen
Spine - T-15103D-61
Disc - T-15103D-50
Languages - English, Spanish & Italian

Railroad Tycoon II
Spine - T-40505D-05
Disc - T-40505D-50
Languages - English

Re-Volt
Spine - T-8107D-05
Disc - T-8107D-50
Languages - English

Resident Evil 2
Spine - T-7004D-61
Disc - Same
Languages - English, Spanish & Italian

Sega Bass Fishing
Spine - MK-51006-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English

Silent Scope
Spine - T-9505D-76
Disc - T-9505D-50
Languages - English, Spanish & Dutch

Sno-Cross Championship Racing
Spine - T-17722D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French & German

Sno Surfers
Spine - MK-51010-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French, German & Spanish

South Park Rally
Spine - T-8112D-05
Disc - T-8112D-50
Languages - English

Spawn: In The Demon's Hand
Spine - T-36816D-05
Disc - T-36816D-50
Languages - English

Speed Devils Online
Spine - T-17713D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French & German

Star Wars Racer
Spine - T-13006D-05
Disc - T-13006D-50
Languages - English

Sydney 2000
Spine - T-36808D-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English

That's all I have hope it all helps! :)

[tinsair]

Here's my final installment:

Mortal Kombat Gold
Spine - T-9701D-61
Disc - T-9701D-50
Languages - English, Spanish & Italian

MTV Skateboarding
Spine - T-10001D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French & German

NBA Hoopz
Spine - T-9713D-61
Disc - T-9713D-50
Languages - English, Spanish & Italian

NBA Showtime
Spine - T-9705D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French & German

Pen Pen
Spine - T-15103D-61
Disc - T-15103D-50
Languages - English, Spanish & Italian

Railroad Tycoon II
Spine - T-40505D-05
Disc - T-40505D-50
Languages - English

Re-Volt
Spine - T-8107D-05
Disc - T-8107D-50
Languages - English

Resident Evil 2
Spine - T-7004D-61
Disc - Same
Languages - English, Spanish & Italian

Sega Bass Fishing
Spine - MK-51006-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English

Silent Scope
Spine - T-9505D-76
Disc - T-9505D-50
Languages - English, Spanish & Dutch

Sno-Cross Championship Racing
Spine - T-17722D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French & German

Sno Surfers
Spine - MK-51010-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French, German & Spanish

South Park Rally
Spine - T-8112D-05
Disc - T-8112D-50
Languages - English

Spawn: In The Demon's Hand
Spine - T-36816D-05
Disc - T-36816D-50
Languages - English

Speed Devils Online
Spine - T-17713D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French & German

Star Wars Racer
Spine - T-13006D-05
Disc - T-13006D-50
Languages - English

Sydney 2000
Spine - T-36808D-05
Disc - Same
Languages - English

That's all I have hope it all helps! :)

[hydr0x]

ok, here is everything thats missing/that you can submit:

any version of the following games:

Donald Duck Quack Attack
ECW: Hardcore Revolution (minus the -05 version)
Fighting Force 2 (minus the -59 version)
Freestyle Scooter
Le Mans (without -91)
Next Tetris
Nomad Soul (without -05)
Project Justic - Rival Schools 2
Qui Veut Gagner Des Millions?
Red Dog
Resident Evil 3 - Nemesi (without -18)
Samba de Amigo
Silent Scope (minus the -05 version)
Silver (without -91)
Slave Zero (without -13)
South Park Rally (without -05)
Star Wars Jedi Power Battles
Starlancer
Stupid Invaders
Surf Rocket Racers
Sydney 2000 (without -05)
UEFA STriker (without -50)

the following country codes need confirmation and detailed info as usual:

102 Dalmation: 05, 06, 09, 13
4 Wheel Thunder: 61
Alone in The Dark: 09, 60
Army Men: 61
Blue Stinger: 09
Bust-A-Move 4: 18, 59
Buzz Lightyear: 09, 60
Caesars Palace: 83
Chicken Run: 06, 09, 13
Chu Chu Rocket: B9 (yes, B!!)
Conflict Zone: 72
Dave Mirra: 05, 60
Dead Or Alive 2: 05, 60
Deadly Skies: 76
Deep Fighter: 09, 18
Dino Crisis: 06, 09, 13, 18
Disney Dinosaur: 09, 99
Dragon Riders: 62
Dragons Blood: 83
Ducati World: 05, 18, 61
ECW: Anarchy Rulz: 18, 59, 61
ESPN Track Field: 87
Evil Dead: 80, 83
Evil Twin: 80
F355: 59, 60
Fur Fighters: 59
Gauntlet Legends: 51
GTA 2: 09
Grandia 2: 09, 18
Grinch: 76
Hidden & Dangerous: 64
House of the Dead 2 without gun
Hydro Thunder: 61
Jeremy McGrath: 05, 60
Jo Jo: 13
Legac Of Kain: 06, 09, 13, 47
Looney Toons Space Race: 05, 09, 60
Marvel vs. Capcom: 61
MDK 2: 61
Millenium Soldier: 05, 60
Mortal Kombat Gold: 51
NBA Hoopz: 51
NFL Quarterback Club 2000: 59
Pen Pen: 58
PSO Vol.2: 64, 89
Power Stone 2: 61
Pro Pinball Trilogy: 05, 06
Psychic Force: 05
Railroad Tycoon 2: 18
Ready 2 Rumble: 05
Record Of Lodoss: 09
Resident Evil 2: 09, 82
RE Code Veronica: 06, 09, 13
Re-Volt: 59
Roadsters: 58
San Francisco Rush 2049: 61
Shadowman: 59
Sonic Adventure: 50
Soul Fighter: 09, 61
South Park Chefs Luv Shack: 05
Spawn: 72
Spiderman: 05, 60
Spirit Of SPeed 37: 05, 59, 60
Star Wars Racer: 09, 18
Star Wars Demolition: 60
Suzuki Alstare: 09
tee Off: 59, 60
Tom Clancy Rainbow Six: 09, 18, 61
Rogue Spear: 05, 09, 18
Tomb Raider IV: -06, -09, -13, -47
Tomb Raider Chronicles: -06, -09, -13, -18
Tony Hawk 2: -09, -18, -60
Toy STory 2: 05, 09, 60
UEFA Dream Soccer: 05, 06, 09
Vanishing Point: 05, 60
Vigilante 8: 75
V-Rally 2: -18, -59, -81
Wacky Races: -09, -60, -82
Walt Disney Magical Racing: 05, 09, 18, 60
Wetrix: 64
Worms Armageddon: 05, 78, 79
WWF Attitude: 50


also one other thing i'm searching for, has ANYONE got NFL Blitz 2000 WITH text on the spine?? every copy i see has a spine without the game name or anything else on it, seems to be a production fault, i wanna know if all copies have this or only some, code should be -50

[devilman]

A few more -

Conflict Zone
Spine - T-46603D-71
Disc - T-46603D-50
Languages - English, French, German, Spanish

Power Stone 2
Spine - T-36812D-64
Disc - T-36812D-50
Languages - English, French, German

Ready 2 Rumble Boxing Round 2
Spine - T-9711D-50
Disc - Same
Languages - English, French, Spanish, German

Starlancer
Spine - T-17723D-50
Disc - T-17723D-05
Languages - English, French, German

I think that's the lot from my collection. :)

[gleavepaul]

Hi im a uk dc fan, got about 80 or so games do u still neeed any help?

[hydr0x]

yeah, i still need anything on the last list i posted!! if you don't know what information i do exactly need, you should read through my other posts :)

[Funk Buddy]

Ok, I'm too lazy to read all the posts, but have you seen this site?

http://www.dreamcasthistory.com/index1.html

They have a small Euro section, but there might be something of use to you. I'll print the list you have too see if I can help out any, but I only have a few Pal games.

[hydr0x]

thx, but i know the site and it doesn't help at all ;)

[hydr0x]

A few more -

Starlancer
Spine - T-17723D-50
Disc - T-17723D-05
Languages - English, French, German

I think that's the lot from my collection. :)

ok finally had the time to add those four, thx, but the last one confuses me!

05 on the disc and 50 on the spine?? i would understand it if it was the other way around, but that way, mh weird? could you pls confirm it, thx!

[devilman]

Yep - just double-checked it and it's right. :)

[anagrama]

thx, but i know the site and it doesn't help at all ;)

Maybe not, but I'm sure the knowledgable forumites there would be able to fill in most missing info - there seems to be a fair amount of European regulars.

[tinsair]

You might already know this but if you don't it might help on your list when putting what a title is called in a different country.
UEFA Striker (PAL) is Striker Pro 2000 (USA)

[hydr0x]

You might already know this but if you don't it might help on your list when putting what a title is called in a different country.
UEFA Striker (PAL) is Striker Pro 2000 (USA)


i've included all aka titles in my list, don't know out of my head if the (very old) version that's online already had them in it though

[tinsair]

Where is your online list Hydr0x?

[anagrama]

It's the Euro section of the Dreamcast list:

http://www.digitpress.com/lists/dreamcast.pdf

[hydr0x]

It's the Euro section of the Dreamcast list:

http://www.digitpress.com/lists/dreamcast.pdf

thx :) that's correct, but as i said the list that's online is very old (ok, in fact it's only about 6 weeks old but i've done a lot since then) and it has some flaws in it, there will be a huge improvement with the next update :)

[Arcturius]

-71 (English, French, German, Spanish) seems to only be used on games distributed by "Big Ben Interactive" also these games have a darker blue ink and look almost like they were printed off differently to other PAL games I'm wondering if that might be the reason for the different code?

[Nicola]

I don't know if you yet need this help but...

-13 is Italy: I have some titles, like Chicken Run, with covers completely translated in italian (e.g. Chicken Run= GALLINE in FUGA) with the -13 code (the same C.Run is T-36814D-13)

The next tetris
disc: T-17717D-50

Sydney 2000
spine: T-36808D-06
disc: T-36808D-13

As usual, I hope to help.

[hydr0x]

thx

FYI: right now i'm working on the rarities, that takes some weeks (ebay observation and so on) but after those are finished or maybe even earlier i'll get back to the part-nr and i hope to finally "finish" it, which means that every game has at least ONE code (only about 8 are missing right now)

[Speedy]

Wich are those? I have some stores around here that sell a lot of DC games, perhaps one of those you are looking for is there.

[Arcturius]

you know your welcome to nab any info from the DC archive you need (I dropped the webmaster a mail about the login for the FTP too and he's working on getting a second log-in set-up for you I dunno how long it'll take though - I could zip up the html files and mail them to you if you want to add your info to them then just mail them back for me to upload until it's sorted)

[hydr0x]

Wich are those? I have some stores around here that sell a lot of DC games, perhaps one of those you are looking for is there.

thanks for the offer but i'm too short on money right now to buy any more games, but as soon as i get some money again i'll let you know, my missing list (although it's not up to date) can be found on dreamcasthistory.com forums

@arcturius: let's talk about this per mail ;)