Dumb customers selling their games back to stores ...

[leonk]

Why are kids so stupid these days??

I walked to my local "gaming store" today (a typical mom & pop operation) and there was a kid selling a complete (with 2 controllers) Nintendo Game Cube to the guy behind the counter (whom I know is the owner).

The owner tested out the system, 2 controllers, memory card, and gave the guy 25$ CDN!!!! That's about 18$US !!!!!! O_O @_@

How stupid are these kids!?!

Another time I was walking around the local flea market when I saw a guy and his 2 kids trying to sell 2 NES systems with 40 games.. the guy was offering him 50 cents per cart and 5$ per system (CDN$ again!)

When the guy was walking to the car to get the rest of the games, I stopped him and told him that I'll double what ever the guy was offering.. :angel:

That's how I got a couple of Mega Man and my DW3 & 4!

This actually happened a few times before!!!!

Anyone else?

[josekortez]

Kids only want the new stuff. They're more concerned with impressing their friends than good gameplay. Then, they grow up to be adults like me who want to find everything they sold. Trust me, they'll regret it in a few years.

I have to admit that I'm a parasite, too. If a Gamestop or EB won't take something that a person tries to trade in, I'll always make them an offer provided I have the cash.

Once, a kid wanted to trade in SNES Mario Kart and TMNT IV at Gamestop, and for some reason the manager wouldn't take them. I reached into my wallet and pulled out $3 which is all I had on me and offered it to the kid. Funny, his dad snatched the 3 bills and said, "We'll take it!" LOL

[PackratMarty]

I was behind a kid yesterday trading in his gamecube games at gamestop. kid traded 4 game cube for $7 in trade, he couldnt even find anything to get for that much money so he still ended up shelling out a bunch of cash in order to get something to take home.Nuts!

[SoulBlazer]

I never, NEVER, sell or trade anything into a EB or a GameStop. They give you crap in return for it, and I can always sell said item on Amazon or EBay for very close to what I paid for it.

Example: Bought Disgaea new at a EB for $50. Did'nt like it that much. Sold it on Amazon for $45. :)

[aaron_157]

I never, NEVER, sell or trade anything into a EB or a GameStop. They give you crap in return for it, and I can always sell said item on Amazon or EBay for very close to what I paid for it.

Example: Bought Disgaea new at a EB for $50. Did'nt like it that much. Sold it on Amazon for $45. :)

I agree, I live 3 hours from the closest EB and Gamestop, and I stop at there shops in the mall whenever im there, (but I rarely buy anything). I just cant believe how they are ripping gamers in that town off. Their buy back and trade-ins are worthless, and their used game prices are only like $5 less than the price of new. Also new game that have been around for a few months they still for $50 when wal-mart and hastings in my town are selling them for $30. i dont know EB is cool, but I think that I will stick with wal-mart and ebay.

[neotokeo2001]

I never, NEVER, sell or trade anything into a EB or a GameStop. They give you crap in return for it, and I can always sell said item on Amazon or EBay for very close to what I paid for it.

Example: Bought Disgaea new at a EB for $50. Did'nt like it that much. Sold it on Amazon for $45. :)

I agree, I live 3 hours from the closest EB and Gamestop, and I stop at there shops in the mall whenever im there, (but I rarely buy anything). I just cant believe how they are ripping gamers in that town off. Their buy back and trade-ins are worthless, and their used game prices are only like $5 less than the price of new. Also new game that have been around for a few months they still for $50 when wal-mart and hastings in my town are selling them for $30. i dont know EB is cool, but I think that I will stick with wal-mart and ebay.

If I lived 3 hours from an EB I'd go to Walmart too. @_@

I have 4 malls within 20 minutes of where I live. And EB just opened 3 more stores in the same area in Strip Malls. Thats 6 EB's and 2 Gamestops in one county.

I never get rid of Anything, unless I have multiple copies. If I am behind someone getting ripped off by a game store on trade-ins I don't hesitate to offer them more. I have only had one EB clerk say something to me. Better yet, most of the EB clerks know me and will purchase Atari and NES games and hold them for me. It's amazing how people take their old games to a store and will take nothing for them.

[Flack]

I was standing in a local computer store one time when a woman walked in with a paper grocery bag filled to the rim with an Atari 2600 and a ton of games. I picked up something and got in line behind the lady. When she got to the counter she asked the guy what he would give her for the entire sack. He glanced in it and said $10. I said I'd give her $20.

The guy IMMEDIATELY went baliistic on me. He started screaming about how this was soliciting on private property or something and how I had 30 seconds to get off his property before he called the police. I turned to the lady and told her I'd be in the parking lot with my $20. I guess the guy upped his offer because she walked out without the sack of goodies. Oh well, and least she didn't get totally ripped off.

[WiseSalesman]

I was standing in a local computer store one time when a woman walked in with a paper grocery bag filled to the rim with an Atari 2600 and a ton of games. I picked up something and got in line behind the lady. When she got to the counter she asked the guy what he would give her for the entire sack. He glanced in it and said $10. I said I'd give her $20.

The guy IMMEDIATELY went baliistic on me. He started screaming about how this was soliciting on private property or something and how I had 30 seconds to get off his property before he called the police. I turned to the lady and told her I'd be in the parking lot with my $20. I guess the guy upped his offer because she walked out without the sack of goodies. Oh well, and least she didn't get totally ripped off.

I'd tell him I had something he could solicit. :D I don't think his argument really holds up anyway.

[jonjandran]

I think there are local laws about soliciting on other peoples property.
But they all just end up with the soliciter having to leave the property.

But in this case , I would have also said "Solicit this" :moon:

[Retsudo]

I have to admit that I'm a parasite, too. If a Gamestop or EB won't take something that a person tries to trade in, I'll always make them an offer provided I have the cash.



Yeah Im the same way. Thats how I got my Sega CD package. I was in EB when this guy wanted to trade in a sega CD with Genny2, 8 mint CD games, and 4 Genny games. The clerk said they didnt take that kinda stuff, so I asked the guy how much would money he wanted for it, He said give me 10 bucks. So I hopped on that of course. Find out, One of the games was Snatcher. Good to be at the right place at the right time 8-) :D

[nesuser2]

worst case scenario.....you get kicked out of the store. o darn LOL

i was selling games to mcvans in ft. wayne and the kid asked if he could buy one of my copies of metroid, i had like 3. all silver and the guys were just dickin around not even dealing with me just spending time with other customers. and the guy goes, you can't talk about that in here blah blah blah, n i'm sittin here thinkin shove it up ur ___ but anyways......i shoulda just walked out but they have a decent trade program for NES games. you give them a game they sell for $14....and for $2 + tax you get any of the other games they sell for $14. and you can get some better stuff. but they sell super dodgeball for like $30. Nuts..

[Gamereviewgod]

Kids only want the new stuff. They're more concerned with impressing their friends than good gameplay

Ding ding ding!!!! We have ourselves a winner!

[KirbyStar27]

The other day I saw some little kid about 8 or 9 trade 2 NES with about about 15 games, a super nintendo with about 20 (a few complete) games, gamegear with about 30 games @_@ and his X Box with halo, mech assault, and internet headset for a PS2 (with two controllers) and 2 games. @_@

Holy Crap. You might as well kick yourself in the balls and burn the systems!!! :D

[kai123]

I know at the mom and pop store I worked at if someone offered them more for something we would just ask them to conduct their business outside. Everybody was happy then they would come back in with some cash and buy something. :D

[nesuser2]

that's the best approach, because then you don't piss people off. if they want to do their business then let it be. it's not like those kinds of places are starving for more trade in junk. i'm sure most places could deal with a little less trade in stuff really. especially the corporate places.

[Anthony1]

I thought about putting up a flyer near a GameStop. Strategically placed saying that I give more money than GameStop for old games.

But it surely would be illegal. To legally have a flier like that, I would have to place it very far away from the store, and it wouldn't work very well.

[AB Positive]

I would hope the Gamestops around you don't freak out if they won't take the stuff in. I know I don't. We dont take in anything pre-NES, no master system, no turbo grafx... just NES, SNES, Genesis, and N64 for your pre-current systems. If anyone wants to give a cash offer for stuff our system doesn't allow trade ins for, we let them. It's not like their ruining out buisness, we aren't taking it.

In fact, with someone else on shift, I've bought stuff we can't take in often. Again, we aren't going to do anythign with it. It's how I got my turbo grafx 16!

-AG

[leonk]

It's a very touchy subject..

how do you get the sellers attention and away from the buyer to let them know that you're willing to offer more without pissing people off Ior getting banned from one of your local go to stores!)

[Aswald]

That's really odd; I'd always assumed that kids (i.e. teenagers) were very savvy about such things- unless desperate for some cash?

[GameGuru]

I was dumb and as I upgraded to the next big machine I always sold my old system doh! I have started collecting the systems again my collection now includes:

Genesis 3
Super NES
Sega Saturn
PSOne w/LCD
Sega Nomad
Sega Dreamcast
Atari Jaguar
Gameboy Color
Gameboy Advance
Goldstar 3DO
Nintendo64
PS2
GameCube
X-Box

I am still planning on getting:

Top Load NES
MasterSystem II
Atari 7800
TurboDuo
NeoGeo AES
NeoGeo Pocket Color

I want to make my own museum ha ha.

[Nature Boy]

worst case scenario.....you get kicked out of the store

You're interfering with somebody's business. What if somebody came up to your boss and said they'd do what you're doing for half the price? What would *you* do?

Saying "it's a big corporation" doesn't justify anything either. Show some respect and don't get so wrapped up in the money side of the hobby that you'll do anything to make a deal. At least wait until they've decided that $4 isn't enough and they've walked out of the store.

There are plenty of people out there who think *we're* idiots for paying for old/classic stuff. Just because somebody puts little value on something doesn't make *them* an idiot. It just makes them different.

[Stamp Mcfury]

I never, NEVER, sell or trade anything into a EB or a GameStop. They give you crap in return for it, and I can always sell said item on Amazon or EBay for very close to what I paid for it.

Example: Bought Disgaea new at a EB for $50. Did'nt like it that much. Sold it on Amazon for $45. :)

Yeah but alot of kids either don't know abought Ebay or can't sell on it since they would need a bank account or credit card.

I traded alot of stuff when i was younger to Ebay used game stores Ect. Before I learned abought Ebay. :frustrated: Of course now I wish I never traded most of those games.

[nesuser2]

worst case scenario.....you get kicked out of the store

You're interfering with somebody's business. What if somebody came up to your boss and said they'd do what you're doing for half the price? What would *you* do?

Saying "it's a big corporation" doesn't justify anything either. Show some respect and don't get so wrapped up in the money side of the hobby that you'll do anything to make a deal. At least wait until they've decided that $4 isn't enough and they've walked out of the store.

There are plenty of people out there who think *we're* idiots for paying for old/classic stuff. Just because somebody puts little value on something doesn't make *them* an idiot. It just makes them different.

you have good points, but I will never feel any remourse when i talk people out of selling their stuff to EB or gamestop. I have yet to see a very good deal there or when I do, buy it only to find out it's broken to some degree and they can't do anything about it but replace it with something totally different or give you store credit. Or you can always keep it. so as i'm sure you've guessed, i have very little respect for the corporate gaming stores. that also includes McVans Video games of Indiana. Maybe i'm just bitter?

[YoshiM]

I never, NEVER, sell or trade anything into a EB or a GameStop. They give you crap in return for it, and I can always sell said item on Amazon or EBay for very close to what I paid for it.

Example: Bought Disgaea new at a EB for $50. Did'nt like it that much. Sold it on Amazon for $45. :)

True, but sometimes it's convenient to trade in your games at an EB or Gamestop and you are guaranteed to get something. On eBay or Amazon there is always a chance that the game will not sell or sell for less than you want.

Me, I do trade in stuff at EB. It's convenient and I usually trade in to get a new game anyway. But I only trade in modern stuff (don't really collect for the modern systems) as classics don't net you anything. Am I getting shafted? Yeah, probably but after I'm done playing these games I feel I got X dollar amount of play out of 'em. If it's too piss poor, I say no thanks.

[MarioAllStar2600]

I wanted a new N64 game when I was younger. I traded in all my NES, man i regret that. All my commons bye-bye.

[jonjandran]

I just traded in 15 PS1 games, 3 PS2 games, 9 N64 games, 2 SNES games and 1 Gameboy color for $109
I got tired of trying to trade them here , so I just loaded them up and said "Here you go " . LOL

[nesuser2]

so you traded them 30 "pieces" for $109.......which really isn't that bad. could have gotten more elsewhere, but $3-4 an item versus waiting around and spending valuable time trying to move them. Well at some point it evens out, it's not totally wrong to trade in games at these places, just the good ones :D

[jonjandran]

Well they weren't good. Mostly sports and driving games. LOL

[petewhitley]

I always put unwanted items up on eBay once, and if they don't sell (about 20% of the time) they go to GameStop. It's easy and has netted me quite a bit more for my games.

[Gamereviewgod]

I'll only sell if I have somrthing no one wanted on E-bay. If it doesn't sell on a re-list, I'll take it in. However, if they don't give me a fair price, I'll probably just hang on to the item/s.

[Nature Boy]

you have good points, but I will never feel any remourse when i talk people out of selling their stuff to EB or gamestop.

There's nothing wrong with talking people out of selling stuff to EB. Just don't do in their store, right in front of them! That's *totally* disrespectful.

I get my friends to sell me their stuff all the time instead of trading it in (usually for the same amount of money, after they've already been and walked out). If you want to nab a stranger either wait for them to walk out and get them out of range or shrug your shoulders and live with their decision.

[chadtower]

I don't really see anything wrong with offering more right in front of the clerk, so long as you already had business standing there. That may be interfering with their business, but it's also free trade. The store has their set price they offer, and if someone can beat it, they should beat it. That's how the business world works. Just because all parties happen to be in a store instead of a conference room doesn't make it any different.

That said, the only time I've ever done that was when I was in a Gamestop and the line was moving horribly slow. I waited like ten minutes, then finally put my stuff down, turned to the woman behind me with a bag of n64 stuff and told her I'd buy it from her for more than Gamestop would pay her. She was sick of waiting too so we went out into the parking lot and made a transaction. It wasn't a great lot of stuff but we were both happy about it and got out of the stupid store that much faster.

[jonjandran]

The only problem with that is you're on Private Property in someones store.
They have the right to set store policy and kick you out or call the police if you break it.
And also there are laws about soliciting in a place of business. It is against the law everywhere.

[chadtower]

The only problem with that is you're on Private Property in someones store.
They have the right to set store policy and kick you out or call the police if you break it.
And also there are laws about soliciting in a place of business. It is against the law everywhere.

If you were to look up soliciting, you would find that what is being described is not in fact soliciting. Soliciting is defined as a persistent behaviour. That would mean a person standing inside the store and offering a side deal to everyone that came in with tradeins. That is not the same as offering it to a single customer and therefore what I described isn't against the law. Now, if a person were to actually stand outside the store and intercept customers on their way in, that would be wrong and illegal as you're saying. That person would be subject to trespassing laws and the police would take notice. The police would not, however, take notice of a complaint that involved one person talking to one other person inside the store unless some other law was being broken.

[jonjandran]

What you're describing is loitering. Soliciting is buying and selling.
Please feel free to look it up or call your local police station.

And if you solicit one time or a dozen, if the police are called they almost always take the side of the Licensed , tax paying business owner.

[chadtower]

What you're describing is loitering. Soliciting is buying and selling.
Please feel free to look it up or call your local police station.

Let's do that.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=soliciting

The closest meaning there to what we're talking about would be #2:

To petition persistently; importune: solicited the neighbors for donations.

Note that nowhere in any of those meanings is buying and selling the primary criterium. Soliciting has nothing really at all to do with buying or selling. Soliciting is a behaviour by definition. You could just as easily be soliciting religious recruits.

[jonjandran]

That is in a Dictionary and its not a definition for the Legal use of the word.
When you use a term legally each City , State , County , etc will have a definition in the law for the term. Or a description of what the law entails.
Like I said ,call and find out or look the laws up in your town. And if you don't know don't post your 2 cents on what you " think ". :roll:

[chadtower]

That is in a Dictionary and its not a definition for the Legal use of the word.
When you use a term legally each City , State , County , etc will have a definition in the law for the term. Or a description of what the law entails.
Like I said ,call and find out or look the laws up in your town. And if you don't know don't post your 2 cents on what you " think ". :roll:

Okay, so then show me an example of where you're right.

[jonjandran]

WTF ...... Go find an example yourself, what am I your nursemaid ?

You're the one posting that it's alright to do something that would probably get someone in trouble with either
a. The Police
b. The Store they're in

All I was doing was telling people to be carefull about acting like they have a right to solicit in someones store or they could get in trouble.

You were the one saying " Hey do whatever you want there's no repercussions . " You as the poster have the obligation to post responsibly. I can just see a Kid , as they are banishing him from GameStop saying " Well Chadtower said it was alright "

So go prove it yourself. I'm just trying to be helpfull so no-one gets in trouble. x_x

[Aswald]

It sounds like a spontaneous situation here: you just happen to notice someone else waiting in line with you and then ask to make a deal. You weren't even aware of the opportunity, and you weren't looking for it. There's no law against talking, or deciding then and there to do something. If that person says no, but you persist, then the store would be able to get you for harrassment. If you go from person to person, well, then you're asking for it. And making an offer right in front of the clerk is also not a good idea.

If, on the other hand, the store posts a notice at the entrance warning against anything like this, then that's a different story. And if an employee tells you to stop, but you won't, then you're asking for trouble. It is private property.

[chadtower]

You as the poster have the obligation to post responsibly. I can just see a Kid , as they are banishing him from GameStop saying " Well Chadtower said it was alright "

Since when? I do? Does anyone?

Considering that I've done it, seen others do it, others here say they've done it, and not one of us has mentioned having been arrested, I'm betting it's not that big of a deal in the single instance scenario.

[bargora]

Courtesy of the law dictionary at law.com:

solicitation
n. the crime of encouraging or inducing another to commit a crime or join in the commission of a crime. Solicitation may refer to a prostitute's (or her pimp's) offer of sexual acts for pay.

:hmm:

[jonjandran]

Courtesy of the law dictionary at law.com:

solicitation
n. the crime of encouraging or inducing another to commit a crime or join in the commission of a crime. Solicitation may refer to a prostitute's (or her pimp's) offer of sexual acts for pay.

:hmm:

:roll: x_x :roll: x_x

You just don't get it. Every State , City , County etc, has a definition for it's laws. And solicitation can mean many different things depending on the use of the word as it applies to different laws.

As in, the solicitation of funds , the solicitation of sex, the solicitation of stupid replies, etc.

[bargora]

Oh, I get it.

My previous message had been sponsored by Yanking Your Chain, Inc. "Yanking Chains for 15 Minutes and Counting."

So, just be sure to check out the municipal and state codes at your local library before tortiously interfering with business relations at your local GamesBoutique! Or better yet, consult an attorney. Or as a last resort, be ready to run fast and not go back to that store for a few months.

And never try to close a prostitution deal at the game store.

[jonjandran]

I could care less what anyone does in a Game Store. I was just letting people know of the " possibility " of consenquences.

I would never hesitate to offer money for games if I wanted them bad enough.
Of course I used to be on the Track Team, so I know I can outrun a fat store owner or cop. LOL

[Nature Boy]

That's how the business world works.

Yeah, right. I often see the CEO of Ford standing outside GM's offices and undercutting all offers to rental agencies and the like. You'd be in business a *long* time with practices like that. :o

[nesuser2]

That's how the business world works.

Yeah, right. I often see the CEO of Ford standing outside GM's offices and undercutting all offers to rental agencies and the like. You'd be in business a *long* time with practices like that. :o

you're not even reading. Chad already said that was the wrong thing to do. he simply pointed out that that's what soliciting is...

[Nature Boy]

you're not even reading. Chad already said that was the wrong thing to do. he simply pointed out that that's what soliciting is...

Where does he say that standing inside a store and taking business away from a retailer is wrong, even if you just do it once.

All I see is an argument over a dictionary and some mumbo jumbo over what is and isn't against the law. I've never argued that doing it *is* against the law - I'm still saying that it's wrong and you don't do that (and I used a silly example of Ford/GM to point out that "The Business World" doesn't operate that way).

[chadtower]

All I see is an argument over a dictionary and some mumbo jumbo over what is and isn't against the law. I've never argued that doing it *is* against the law - I'm still saying that it's wrong and you don't do that (and I used a silly example of Ford/GM to point out that "The Business World" doesn't operate that way).

The business world sure does work that way. You have one party with items that are desired by more than one party. The desiring parties will enter into a bidding war for the items. Just because it happens over the phone or email doesn't make it all that much different than standing in the store. I've been involved with that process many times in the course of doing my job.

[nesuser2]

you were refering to standing in front of the business. and secondly, you're sliding two businesses together. that's like the CEO of EB standing outside gamestop. Which is totally different from an individual buying things for himself. NOBODY IS SAYING IT'S TOTALLY LEGAL. I don't drive the speed limit, I litter.......so what, the point is....if EB wanted to take you to court for offering somebody money inside their store for something they also offered money for, I sure would expect EB to lose that one. Besides the fact that they would never do it, who's word against whom's? some idiot clerk that doesn't know the difference between final fantasy and fantasia. and as chad is pointing out, their fronts are weak for a case. so the worse they can do is chew you out and tell you to leave. boo hoo....

[Nature Boy]

Just because it happens over the phone or email doesn't make it all that much different than standing in the store.

If you can't see the difference that's fine with me. But I do see a difference.