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Cmosfm

12-02-2003, 12:16 PM

I love these games, I've never seen one here so I figured I'd try it!

Ok, The game goes like this, I will ask a question, a collectors question, and once it's answered the person with the correct answer will ask another question. A true collector will know when he is right, and will not need me or any question giver to tell him he is, so he will then ask another question directly after answering. You can go with any system or the whole video game world in general. It would be nice to switch systems every question if it's possible. Hopefully this topic will do well, I'm interested in seeing the questions that will be asked by everyone!

Ok, I will start it off easy with a question thats NES related.

Why is the Tengen version of Tetris considered "rare"?

1bigmig

12-02-2003, 12:32 PM

Because it was pulled from the shelves after a lawsuit by big N and because noobs gone wild have inflated the price on ebay.

Which came first Adventure Island or Wonder Boy?

Ed Oscuro

12-02-2003, 12:42 PM

VACRMH

12-02-2003, 12:59 PM

Which came first Adventure Island or Wonder Boy?

Wonder Boy.

...?

Cmosfm

12-02-2003, 01:08 PM

You know, just as a personal anecdote, back when I didn't know much at all about games (still don't, really) I was in favor of looking through webpages and making up these sorts of games (with questions I myself couldn't answer without looking up the answers). The Tengen question is sort of...well, I can't name a single person here who wouldn't know that one.

Now the Adventure Island one...hmm, you tell me?

Are you trying to insinuate that I don't know anything about games so I'm making this topic to learn more. I'm sorry, but I've been collecting games and gaming for over 15 years. I know more about games that most people do, and probably more than 1/2 the people on this board. Did you even take the time to look at my collection below in my sig? doubt it, instead you wish to be an ass and tell me I don't know anything because I made this topic. I'm not saying I know EVERYTHING, I know theres some questions I can't answer so I am hoping to learn a little more. Also I didn't jump in and answer the extremely easy Adventure Island question because I wanted to give others a chance! The answer is Wonder Boy, which came out in the arcades first. Heres a new question then Ed...

Mario (aka Jumpman in Donkey Kong), was designed with a hat on. Why?

Oobgarm

12-02-2003, 01:25 PM

Because of the limited color palette. Making him with hair that was the same color as his clothes/other body parts would have looked stupid.

What was the inspiration for Puck-Man? (easy, I know)

digitpress Jim

12-02-2003, 01:37 PM

Pac-Man creator Toru Iwatani-san was having pizza for lunch, pulled one slice out and there was Pac-Man. :D

What was the very first system Hideo Kojima-san's "Metal Gear" masterpiece played on?

Cmosfm don't let Ed get to you, nobody knows everything about Video Games. This is a fun way for everybody to learn something new. :D

Cmosfm

12-02-2003, 01:44 PM

What was the very first system Hideo Kojima-san's "Metal Gear" masterpiece played on?

MSX - sadly a japanese only system

What is the number of gold and gray (seperate, not combined) Nintendo World Championship carts given out and what came with them besides the actual cart?

Oobgarm

12-02-2003, 02:03 PM

There's a bit of doubt as to a definite answer to quantities, but anyway:

DP Guide sez:

The cartridge used for the championships during the NWC tour in 1990. A combination of three games: Super Mario Bros., Rad Racer, and Tetris. 116 cartridges officially exist: 90 grey carts given to NWC finalists and 26 gold carts given away in a Nintendo Power contest. NOTE: the gold version of this game has been sold for as high as $6,500 across private collectors' deals! SANTULLI SLANT: Not only is this highly collectible (especially the gold edition), but it's a darn FUN game too! In a timed game (set via the dipswitches on the physical cartridge itself), you first have to collect 50 coins in Super Mario Bros. Then the game whisks you off to Rad Racer level 1, and when you're finished with that you're taken to Tetris until time expires. The scoring is your SMB score + Rad Racer score x10 + Tetris score x25. Very cool, frantic fun.

It came with a 30 page contest guide.

What do SEGA and CAPCOM stand for?

portnoyd

12-02-2003, 02:05 PM

Service Games and Captian Commando.

Easy one: How many licensed NES Tengen titles were released?

dave

NE146

12-02-2003, 02:20 PM

What was the inspiration for Puck-Man? (easy, I know)

I went out to happy hour with my wife and her lawyer friend Masako from Japan the other Friday. And over drinks the topic came out about how I liked old videogames. Masako said she didn't really know about them very much.. but "remembered one game". And I said what game is it? And she held out her hand and made a chomping motion and said "PUCKU PUCKU PUCKU PUCKU".

I laughed and said ahh Pacman or Puckman you're talking about. And she said in her thick jap accent.. "yes! That is it I believe. Puckman!"

I asked her about the pucku sound she was making and what exactly it meant (of course I knew, but just wanted to get her unbiased perspective). She struggled for a bit to find an english equivalent and decided that the closest thing to it would be "chomp" where it's describing a cartoonish sound of eating. thus pucku pucku pucku = chomp chomp chomp. Which of course we all know already.. but hey, it was interesting to hear it straight out of someone unfamiliar with games.

Anyway, sort of off topic but I thought it was a cute story :P

Ed Oscuro

12-02-2003, 02:29 PM

Are you trying to insinuate that I don't know anything about games so I'm making this topic to learn more.

No, just telling a personal story. That's a true story about myself, and if you don't like me it's still true. Even if you do like me, it's unfortunately true. Now, if you brought a really hard question for the first one, I wouldn't have said that LOL

Also, I don't really think collecting by itself endows a person with a lot of knowledge about interesting things, gossip etc ;) The sort of stuff I care about :D Even those things which an insider knows can't always be mentioned on an internet forum (ask Zach).

My reason for saying that is these questions tend to be either too easy or show off the questioner's niche obsessions all to clearly. At least you're not expecting us to know things we don't :)

My point is, trivia's dull. Inside information or personal stories (see NE146) bring these threads alive. So that's not a slam against the topic, but rather against trivia topics in general. I used to think that trivia by itself is a good thing...now I know better. I did it on a couple forums and it turned out to be a bad thing.

Anyhow, everybody knows the Jumpman story too; hell, I read it a while back. You couldn't animate Jumpman's hair moving when he jumped; thus, the hat.

The Puckman story? The designer at Namco was hungry, ordered a pizza and realized it looked like a little dude when one slice was missing. If graphics hardware had been up to the task, Pac-Man would've been a wee pizza.

Nice story though NE146. That sort of thing keeps these threads alive :)

Cmosfm

12-02-2003, 02:39 PM

ok, ed, if these questions are too easy throw us a hardball why don't cha

Ed Oscuro

12-02-2003, 02:44 PM

Sorry, seems the power of words is escaping me today. I mean to say that if anybody has information about insider things...that would be cool. I've discovered (to my embarrasment) that q&a type things tend to cheese people off, that's all. If we're having fun with this, though, there's nothing wrong with that.

Oh, what's this? Cease and desist? Why not.

Ah, okay, here's a question.

What's the name of Trip Hawkin's latest venture? (hint: First word is not Analog)

WiseSalesman

12-02-2003, 03:03 PM

Wow, cmosfm, way to fly off the handle TWICE at a perfectly legitimate reply which wasn't meant to insult you in the least. Damn.

Cmosfm

12-02-2003, 03:12 PM

Yeah, kinda flew off the handle didnt I, I have a habit of that, I get angry and go all out then I realize what I did was unnecessary and I feel like an idiot for it! sorry guys. :(

Anyways, as for Trip Hawkins latest venture isnt it a handheld system, I remember Tiger being in the name, not quite sure of its exact name becuase theres just too little information out there now.

Flack

12-02-2003, 03:49 PM

Digital Chocolate?

Ed Oscuro

12-02-2003, 05:38 PM

Yes, that's it!

And I can't say that Cmosfm is to blame for this at all. I shouldn't have written that in the first place. I don't hate trivia threads--but I wanted to say that there needs to be some thought put into them if they're going to be exciting!

esquire

12-02-2003, 05:52 PM

If you don't find it exciting, don't play and move along to the next thread. Why even bother responding?

Anyways, did anyone ever answer the question on the number of licensed Tengen games for the NES? I'm just guessing, 12?

NE146

12-02-2003, 05:59 PM

Now now boys.. let's not get all riled up over something so "trivial" :D

*cough*

By the way is there a difference between "collectors" knowledge and "videogame" knowledge? I don't really collect, but I've been around since day one. So... just for fun I'll throw my hat in with a couple of EASY videogame questions EVERY die hard probably knows.. (i.e. if not.. wtf happened? LOL) as the games referenced are well known enough :P

1. Where is the safe spot in Pacman

2. What's the major difference between U.S. and Japanese Donkey Kong versions

3. What is the common technique often seen being used for high scores in Asteroids (description or common name will suffice)

4. What shocking enemy is introduced on level 17 of Tempest. (a description will suffice)

5. Max point score of the UFO in Space Invaders? (see? no obscure questions about counting, etc.) :P

6. In Robotron, what evil thing do the Brains do to the poor humanoids (description of what the they do or the actual name of the final product will suffice)

7. Lowest Ranking in Gorf?

8. After the world is destroyed in Missle Command, what does it say on the screen?

9. What happens every fifth wave of Defender

10. What's notable about the 9th Key in Pacman

See? EASY!!!!!!! I'd write more... but my boss just called me so I gotta split LOL

Raccoon Lad

12-02-2003, 06:11 PM

Answer to #10

It can be used to open the gates of HELL!!!! ROFL

AB Positive

12-02-2003, 06:20 PM

10. What's notable about the 9th Key in Pacman

Isn't it the Galaxian ship?

Here's a question for y'all, what is your reward for beating Fatal Fury Special without losing a round?

-AG

Flack

12-02-2003, 07:19 PM

Yes, that's it!

Cool, then here's my (easy) question.

One of my favorite games contains "feedles". What are they, and what's the game? (No fair just hitting Google.)

Lady Jaye

12-02-2003, 07:43 PM

Which game is Turn and Burn: No Crash Zone (SNES) a remake of?

hu6800

12-02-2003, 11:41 PM

Why did they never make the sequel to Micheal Jacksons moon walker?
hahah...

Who has an autographed unopened Mike Tysons Punch out?

Videogame pissing contest amuse me.

NE146

12-02-2003, 11:58 PM

Videogame pissing contest amuse me.

huh? :?

10. What's notable about the 9th Key in Pacman Isn't it the Galaxian ship?

No.. it's not the Galaxian ship stage.. it's the KEY stage.. and the 9th one at that :P

The notable thing about it is it's the highest difficulty level in Pacman where the ghosts will never turn blue again, and pacman slows down somewhat. The game just remains at this difficulty level until you either die, or crash the game by hitting the 255th screen basically.

WiseSalesman

12-03-2003, 01:34 AM

The interesting thing is, Ne1 said all die hard gamers should be able to answer all of his questions. I've only been playing since NES, and I can't answer ANY of them. I've played all the games he mentioned, but not exstenively enough to know this stuff.

Oh, and NE1 doesn't mess around when it comes to pacman. I have a video of him DESTROYING a level of that game. I always show it to gamer friends when they're over.

WiseSalesman

12-03-2003, 01:37 AM

Also, seeing this makes me realize.

I never got my damn Metal Slug 5 poster. :angry:

NE146

12-03-2003, 02:49 AM

The interesting thing is, Ne1 said all die hard gamers should be able to answer all of his questions. I've only been playing since NES, and I can't answer ANY of them. I've played all the games he mentioned, but not exstenively enough to know this stuff.

Really? I figured they all were fun gimmes since they are (ok.. WERE) ultra popular arcade games.. but these days maybe that's only true for the old ass arcade fogeys :embarrassed: :hmm: :P

Ahh well, I'll just post the answers to all of them. Here ya go :)

1. Where is the safe spot in Pacman
Here. At point "D" (good old google search saved me the trouble of writing it up :D)
http://www.hanaho.com/pacman/zones.gif

2. What's the major difference between U.S. and Japanese Donkey Kong versions.
The major difference is the stage order. In the Japanese Donkey Kong, the stages go a logical 1-2-3-4. The U.S. version mixed them up going 1-4,1-3-4,1-3-2-4, etc. It's very obvious if you play them.

3. What is the common technique often seen being used for high scores in Asteroids (description or common name will suffice) .
Lurking! :D Basically where you leave one or 2 small asteroids, and you go off hunting for the 1000 pt tiny UFO's. All the high scorers of the time got really good at this (by shooting them from off-screen, moving real fast to avoid shots, etc.). Sometimes this pissed people off because they'd play for so long LOL

4. What shocking enemy is introduced on level 17 of Tempest. (a description will suffice)
On level 17, the stages repeat for the first time (16 levels alltogether), the tubes turn orange and out come the PULSARS! These bastards would pulse in a rythym and if you were on their lane.. they would shock the entire lane and fry your poor claw.

5. Max point score of the UFO in Space Invaders?
300 points.
That's why you'd always see people counting shots which was the technique to ensure that the UFO you shot were ALWAYS 300 points.

6. In Robotron, what evil thing do the Brains do to the poor humanoids (description of what the they do or the actual name of the final product will suffice).
The dangerous Brains appear only every fifth wave and these evil villians possess the power to reprogram humans into kamikaze-like PROGS. By simply touching a human, a Brain can transforms him into a deadly Prog, which runs around aimlessly like a chicken with it's head cut off.. and of course will kill you if they run into you. Not to mention the Brains fire homing cruise missiles at you if that wasn't bad enough.

7. Lowest Ranking in Gorf?
SPACE CADET. That damn Gorf voice will taunt you endlessly.. SPACE CADET! :)

8. After the world is destroyed in Missle Command, what does it say on the screen?
http://www.users.qwest.net/~userid946/theend.jpg

9. What happens every fifth wave of Defender
Every fifth wave, a destroyed planet reappears and all ten humanoids are replaced.

10. What's notable about the 9th Key in Pacman
(see above) :)

Oh, and NE1 doesn't mess around when it comes to pacman. I have a video of him DESTROYING a level of that game. I always show it to gamer friends when they're over.

Aah that's the 9th key "stunt" pattern :) To give credit where credit is due, that's from an old magazine at the time (Joystik?) that I just never forgot. Of course I've come up with my own patterns for all of Pacman..but nothing that comes close to that stunt pattern.. which by the way is highly dangerous and only used if you wanna show off :P

Ed Oscuro

12-03-2003, 11:46 AM

Cmosfm

12-03-2003, 12:19 PM

Excellent Questions NE1....I didnt know any of them, but I see im not the only one. Anyone have any more questions to test us, I cant think of any right now! :(

Doonzmore

12-03-2003, 06:10 PM

Um how bout these three, many of you will probably find it easy but hey what the hell it's just for fun.

What was the reason behind the canclation of Taz Express (N64)?

Is there any sort of Looney Tunes Space Race (N64) Beta/Proto in existense?

And lastly why the hell is Duck Dodgers (N64) so rare? Was it a rental only or something?

WiseSalesman

12-03-2003, 06:26 PM

Also, seeing this makes me realize.

I never got my damn Metal Slug 5 poster. :angry:

I never did, either.

Yeah, keeping the image on their site but removing the link = classic.

SNK, Playmore or whoever was behind that one lost a bunch of respect from this AES collector. :/

Yeah, but , see, the lnk was still up there when I ordered the damn thing. I mean, if they had removed it by the time I ordered, I'd of considered it a 50% chance, but I REALLY expected them to come through considering I used the link off their website to e-mail them. That really pisses me off.

Lady Jaye

12-03-2003, 07:01 PM

Hmm, I also did post a question, in case no one has seen it...

Ruudos

12-04-2003, 07:14 AM

MSX - sadly a japanese only system
No it isn't. It was also released in Europe.

And I don't know the answer to the Turn & Burn question from Lady Jaye.

AB Positive

12-04-2003, 07:24 AM

I don't know the turn and burn one either, and no one even bothered going for mine, but here's a few more:

In 720, what would the game yell at you if you took too long skating around in the main park level?

Why is there no music in the game KLAX?

How many systems did Fantasy Zone (officially) come out on?

-AG

AB Positive

12-04-2003, 07:28 AM

Hmm, I also did post a question, in case no one has seen it...

Was it a remake of Bump and Jump by any chance?

-AG

Darth Sensei

12-04-2003, 08:10 AM

Darth Sensei

12-04-2003, 08:13 AM

@NE146

Some people call the Asteroids technique hunting. In all humility, I am a master of that.

Pacman- If you stay at point D you can't be harmed? Will you share your patterns? I used to have 4 different patterns but forgot them long ago.

My cousin once "beat" pacman because the power supply went up in smoke. He got his pic in the paper because of it. I was so cheesed.

I'll offer a softball question: What word in Mr. Do do you need to spell for a free guy?

D

NE146

12-04-2003, 01:41 PM

@NE146

Some people call the Asteroids technique hunting. In all humility, I am a master of that.

Cool! :D Yeah the name's are always varied for any technique which is why I said just a description would suffice. By they way.. I SUCK at hunting. Lordy how do you guys do it x_x LOL

Pacman- If you stay at point D you can't be harmed? Yeah! Try it out on the original puckman/pacman romset. In the middle of a stage when the action's hot and heavy, go try and park yourself at D (I usually face upwards). Then you can go take a nap if you want.

Will you share your patterns? I used to have 4 different patterns but forgot them long ago.
Sure. Kind of hard to though.. but I do have some scans of Joystik magazine's patterns which I tend to lean on quite a bit anyway. Maybe I can just post scans of those if you're interested. :)

I'll offer a softball question: What word in Mr. Do do you need to spell for a free guy?

Extra?

Flack

12-04-2003, 01:42 PM

Darth Sensei

12-04-2003, 01:59 PM

I'll offer a softball question: What word in Mr. Do do you need to spell for a free guy?

EXTRA, right?

I guess everyone gave up on my "feedle" question.

One of my favorite games contains "feedles". What are they, and what's the game? (No fair just hitting Google.)

http://reviewtoakill.com/pix/yakf.jpg

The "feedles" were multiple clones that would go away with one hit each in level five of Yie-Ar Kung-Fu.

Yep, it's Extra. I'm kicking myself that I didn't get your Yia Ar question right. I knew that, it's one of my favorite games.

@NE146 I'd love some scans of those if you want to e-mail them to cuewarrior@aol.com

D

NE146

12-04-2003, 02:06 PM

crappy double post..

NE146

12-04-2003, 02:07 PM

yeah I had no idea where feedles is from :P

@CueWarrior: Sure! I'll see if I can bring them to work tomorrow and scan em for ya :)

And by hich game is Turn and Burn: No Crash Zone (SNES) a remake of

I've never even seen this game.. but I'll guess Afterburner? Or is it that Genesis game Air Diver? I dunno :P

Raccoon Lad

12-04-2003, 02:16 PM

Fantasy Zone came out on 4 systems by my count.
SMS
TG-16
NES
MSX

5 if you count the different Famicom (sunsoft) and NES (tengen) versions.

Lady Jaye

12-04-2003, 02:33 PM

Turn and Burn: No Crash Zone was a remake of Tomcat: The F-14 Simulator, released in 1988 by Absolute for the Atari 2600 and Atari 7800.

The game was remade once more for the GBA as F-14 Tomcat, released this time around by Majesco.

Why did Majesco buy the rights to Tomcat/Turn and Burn to make a GBA remake of it? Well, the game's creator, Dan Kitchen, later became a vice-president at Majesco...

Balloon Fight

12-04-2003, 02:49 PM

Heres a simple question to all Robotron players-

What is the glitch on the brain wave, and how do you do it?

Another one-

How do you execute the 250 extra players in Sinistar?

NE146

12-04-2003, 03:03 PM

Heres a simple question to all Robotron players-

What is the glitch on the brain wave, and how do you do it?
On the first brain wave, There is a bunch of Mommy's and one little boy (jimmy?). For some reason all the brains will chase after the little boy and leave the mommies alone. If you can stop them from getting to the boy (and surviving), you will have a veritable feast of Mommies to feast on for 5000 pts a pop. If you do it right by the end of this stage you should have a score of over 100k :)

How do you execute the 250 extra players in Sinistar?

Don't really know since I could never do it! Apparently it's something to the effect of you lose your last life to the Sinistar just before killing him with a final sinibomb. This rolls back the life counter since it registers you as being killed "twice"? Something like that.. Damn hard to do :P

VinnyT

12-04-2003, 03:22 PM

In the Genesis dungeon crawler, Fatal Labyrinth, what is the name of the hero.

Bonus: Name the rare weapon that was cursed and was named after another Genesis game.

bargora

12-04-2003, 05:07 PM

How do you execute the 250 extra players in Sinistar?

Don't really know since I could never do it! Apparently it's something to the effect of you lose your last life to the Sinistar just before killing him with a final sinibomb. This rolls back the life counter since it registers you as being killed "twice"? Something like that.. Damn hard to do :P
Wasn't that explained in the video that came on Arcade's Greatest Hits: The Williams Collection (PSX)? I thought you have to get your last ship caught by the Sinistar, and then while you're circling around his mouth (before he chomps you) you have to be hit by a shot from a Warrior (thus registering the double death).

Not that I've ever done it. If I want 255 ships (and in Sinistar, you bet I do sometimes), I just go into the settings. :embarrassed:

Balloon Fight

12-04-2003, 05:16 PM

bargora wins! :)

Its almost too hard to do.

VinnyT

12-04-2003, 06:30 PM

It's annoying when no one answers your question. Or mabye it's just really hard. I like to think the second one.

WiseSalesman

12-04-2003, 09:14 PM

In the Genesis dungeon crawler, Fatal Labyrinth, what is the name of the hero.

Bonus: Name the rare weapon that was cursed and was named after another Genesis game.

It's annyoing when no one answers your question.

Okay, I've never even HEARD of this damn game...so....can't help you out there! :D

VinnyT

12-04-2003, 10:33 PM

Yeah, I tried to think of a game that only a REALLY good Genesis collecter would know. Not that your any less of a collecter.

Mr Mort

12-05-2003, 12:00 AM

WiseSalesman

12-05-2003, 12:07 AM

Yeah, I tried to think of a game that only a REALLY good Genesis collecter would know. Not that your any less of a collecter.

No offense taken, of course. :D

And since I don't actively collect for the Genesis, that makes it even less offensive. LOL

TheRedEye

12-05-2003, 12:56 AM

I've got one, but it's pretty lame, I'm sure anyone can get it, but here goes:

The topic: Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike for DC (Japanese Version)
When you defeat Alex using a Jab or a Short what does he scream as he's falling to the ground? (Hint: this was deleted in the U.S. release)

"WHAT'S WITH THE JAB YOU PUSSYYYYYYYYY?????"

Edit: "TODAY I ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN WITH MY LORD BY MY SIIIIDDDEEEE!!!"

Edit 2: "HITLER HAD HIS GOOD POINTS TOO!"

Edit 3: "ME LOVE YOU LONG TIME!"

Balloon Fight

12-05-2003, 06:29 PM

Before this thread dies i have 1 more-

What game was the first game to be related to a death, and who was the person that died.

Good luck!

Cmosfm

12-05-2003, 07:24 PM

What game was the first game to be related to a death, and who was the person that died.

Ok, do you mean whats the first game that someone dies or is dead in or do you mean the first game that was related to an actual real life death?

Balloon Fight

12-05-2003, 07:52 PM