Dreamcast Shooters? (side scrolling/top down)

[Fuel Injected]

Im working on collecting all the shooters for Turbo Grafx 16, I have 8 right now w/ aprox 8 more to go.

I was thinking of starting to collect Dreamcast games, but are there any shooters for it? What were the better games for this consol?

Thanks

[VACRMH]

Gigawing
Gigawing 2
Border Down
Ikugara
Gunbird 2

[Captain Wrong]

You forgot some:

Zero Wing 2...I mean Zero Gunner 2. Heh.
Twinkle Star Sprites
Mars Matrix

[Kid Fenris]

I'm not sure if you could count Capcom's Cannon Spike or not. It's a shooter, but in the overhead, character-based style of Commando and Pocky and Rocky (and Cartel Wars).

By the way, I recently had the chance try out Zero Gunner 2, thanks to a "Mr. Bargora." I rather like the game's unique play, which allows you to reorient your ship by rotating it around an axis. A fun shooter, and fairly cheap, as imports go.

[ubersaurus]

Bangai-oh is a shooter, and a very uniquely bizarre one at that.

[Sotenga]

Try Rainbow Cotton... better yet, don't try it. While I've heard that it has an excellent anime intro, the game's controls are total ass. Also, there are some missions in Toy Commander that get real shmuppy. Other than that, I think we've pretty much covered all of them.

[Atari7800]

That's one thing that really disappointed me about the DC... so few shooters! I've got almost all of the Saturn shooters, and I play them all the time... Batsugun was in last night's entertainment. The Saturn has such a HUGE library of true 2-D shooters, and I had hoped that the DC would be the same. Unfortunately, it seems that the genre isn't as popular as it used to be. The Saturn was very successful in Japan for awhile and had a longer lifespan (over 700 games) so it would stand to reason that it would have a larger share of shooters. These have been mentioned, and i'll say them again... these are my kind of shooters!

Gigawing
Gigawing 2
Border Down
Ikugara
Gunbird 2
Mars Matrix

[VACRMH]

You forgot some:

Zero Wing 2...I mean Zero Gunner 2. Heh.
Twinkle Star Sprites
Mars Matrix

That I did, I was just mentioned a few off the top of my head :)

I highly recomend Zero Gunner 2, Kick ass game :rocker:

[esquire]

If you like "Contra" style shooters, you may also want to try "Expendable"

Anyone know any good places to get "Border Down" from, and what do you need to get it to play on a US Dreamcast?

Also, if you really like shooters, I would recommend getting a PC Engine (there are at least 2-3 times more shooters on it than the TG16), Saturn, SNES and Genesis. There are far more shooters on those consoles than the Dreamcast.

[Fuel Injected]

Can i play PC Engine games with an aftermarket card on my US TG16, or do I need a PCE?

Also is there any Saturn Shooter Resource?

[ubersaurus]

I ordered Border Down from NCSX.com. Seemed really reliable.

All you need to get it to run on your dreamcast would be a boot disc. Unless you've got a modded dreamcast or one of those all-region ones.

As for the PC-engine..why not just get a convertor for his TG-16? That'd be cheaper.

[Fuel Injected]

As for the PC-engine..why not just get a convertor for his TG-16? That'd be cheaper.


Actually, thats what I was talking about, I didnt want the PCE games on the DC.

Do you have any info on the converters?

[Atari7800]

SATURN SHOOTERS

Someone asked, so here ya go! I compiled this list a while back... someone tell me if I've left something off! I have divided up the games off compilations (such as the three games on Capcom Generations 1 disk being seperated)

PURE shooters (vertical or horizontal, sprite or polygonal graphics on a 2-D plane)

1942 (Capcom Generations 1)
1943 (Capcom Generations 1)
1943+ (Capcom Generations 1)
Batsugun
Battle Garegga
Biometal Gust (Dazaemon 2)
Blast Wind
Bokan To Ippatsu Doronboo Kanpekiban (aka Time Bokan)
Chariot (Arcade Gears: Wonder 3)
Choaniki (aka Super Big Brother)
Cotton 2
Cotton Boomerang
Darius 2
Darius Gaiden
Defender (Arcades Greatest Hits: Williams)
Defender II (Arcades Greatest Hits: Williams)
Detana Twinbee Yahho! Deluxe Pack
Dezaemon 2 (aka shooter maker, contains 3 complete shooters)
DoDonPachi
DonPachi
Fantasy Zone
Galactic Attack (aka Layer Section)
Game Tengoku (aka The Game Paradise)
Gradius (Gardius Deluxe Pack)
Gradius 2 (Gardius Deluxe Pack)
Gekirindan
Guardian Force
Gun Frontier (Arcade Gears)
Gunbird
Hyper Duel
Image Fight (Image Fight & X-Multiply dual pack)
In The Hunt
Jikkyou Osyaberi Parodius (aka Parodius: Forever With Me)
Keio Yugekitai (aka Keio Flying Squadron 2 in UK, many platform elements, mentioned here since Keio Flying Squadron 1 on Sega Cd was pure shooter)
Kingdom Grand Prix
Konami Antiques MSX Collection***
Kyukyoku Tiger 2 Plus
Layer Section 2
Life Force (Salamander Deluxe Pack)
Metal Black
Mobile Suit Gundam
Mobile Suit Z Gundam
Parodius (aka Parodius Da!) (Gokujyo Parodius-Da! Deluxe Pack)
Parodius 2 (aka Gokujko Parodius) (Gokujyo Parodius-Da! Deluxe Pack)
Planet Joker
Radiant Silvergun
Ramsie (Dazaemon 2)
Salamander (Salamander Deluxe Pack)
Salamander 2 (Salamander Deluxe Pack)
Sengoku Blaede
Sexy Parodius
Shienryu
Sinistar (Arcades Greatest Hits: Williams)
Skull Fang
Sol Divide
Sonic Wings Special (remixed and merged versions of Sonic Wings 1,2, and 3)
Soukyugurentai
Star Jacker (Sega Ages Memorial 2)
Steam Hearts
Strikers 1945
Strikers 1945 II
Super Dimensional Fortress Macross: Do You Remember Love?
Terra Cresta 3-D
Thunderforce 1 (Thunderforce Gold Pack 1)
Thunderforce 2 (Thunderforce Gold Pack 1)
Thunderforce 3 (Thunderforce Gold Pack 1)
Thunderforce 4 (Thunderforce Gold Pack 2)
Thunderforce Arcade (remixed Thunderforce 3) (Thunderforce Gold Pack 2)
Thunderforce V
Vulgas (Capcom Generations 3)
X-Multiply (Image Fight & X-Multiply dual pack)
*unknown Xevious-style shooter on Dazaemon 2 disk

*** Konami Antiques MSX Collection contains PORTS of classic shooters for the old Japanese MSX computer. They are essentially Saturn ports of MSX ports of arcade games. Gradius, Gradius 2, Salamander, and Parodius 1 appear in arcade-perfect form on other Saturn compilations.

Gofers Ambition
Gradius
Gradius 2
Salamander
Parodius
Time Pilot
Sky Jaguar
Super Cobra




QUASI-3D SHOOTERS (with limited movement)

Afterburner II (on US Sega Ages CD or Japanese stand-alone disk)
G-Vector
Galaxy Force II
Night Striker S
Panzer Dragoon
Panzer Dragoon Zwei
Sky Target
Solar Eclipse
Space Harrier (on US Sega Ages CD or Japanese stand-alone disk)




FULL 3-D SHOOTERS

Black Dawn
Black Fire
Bulk Slash
Darklight Conflict
Independence Day
Shockwave Assault
Star Fighter
Stellar Assault SS
Thunderstrike 2
Wing Arms



CLASSIC SHOOTERS (generally one screen, no scrolling)

Asteroids (Arcades Greatest Hits: Atari)
Centipede (Arcades Greatest Hits: Atari)
Missile Command (Arcades Greatest Hits: Atari)
Robotron (Arcades Greatest Hits: Midway)
Space Invaders
Tempest (Arcades Greatest Hits: Atari)
Tempest 2000




QUASI-SHOOTERS (many can be viewed as platform, action, or combat/racing games, but they are more firepower-intensive than most. The inclusion of some of these games may be questionable.)

Assault Suit Leynos 2
Burning Rangers
Chaos Control Remix
Commando (Capcom Generations 4)
Contra: Legacy of War
Crime Wave
Crusader: No Remorse
Gunsmoke (Capcom Generations 4)
Loaded
Mass Destruction
Mercs (Capcom Generations 4)
Metal Slug
Prikura Daisakusen
Soviet Strike
Steamgear Mash
Tukai Slot Shooting
Vatlva
Wolf Fang SS

[esquire]

As for the PC-engine..why not just get a convertor for his TG-16? That'd be cheaper.


Actually, thats what I was talking about, I didnt want the PCE games on the DC.

Do you have any info on the converters?

There are two converters or adapters. One is called the "Kisado" adapter, i beleive, or "spring board" adapter because it looks like a spring board. You can take a look at it here: http://www.pcenginefx.com/TS/system_-_hucard_converter__2.html

I don't know what the other one is called, but here it is:
http://www.pcenginefx.com/TS/system_-_hucard_converter__1.html

You can usually find them on ebay. I don't think they are made anymore. The problem you'll have is most of them go for $75-$100. For that money (or even less) you can get a pc-engine (or core grafx) with an extra controller and maybe a game or two. The only problem with pc engines is finding one in North America so you dont have to pa around $50 shipping from Japan or Europe.

[GaijinPunch]

Psyvariar 2 just got announced for DC. Released at the end of February.

[buttasuperb]

I ordered Border Down from NCSX.com. Seemed really reliable.

NCSX is a top seller, nothing to worry about dealing with them.

As for Psyvariar 2, :rocker: the DC (or as I call it, the Neo Jr.) lives on.

[WiseSalesman]

Wasn't Starlancer a shooter, but in the more "Starfox" kind of vein? I don't remember, I only played it once.

[Captain Wrong]

Support your local topic drift.

[josekortez]

Do Robotron 2084 and Defender I and II on the Midway's Greatest Hits Vol. 1 disc count as Dreamcast shooters?

[Trellisaze]

Wasn't Starlancer a shooter, but in the more "Starfox" kind of vein? I don't remember, I only played it once.

More in the Wing Commander vein, especially since it was designed by the guy who guy who came up with Wing Commander in the first place.

[Fuel Injected]

Psyvariar 2 just got announced for DC. Released at the end of February.

Wait, they are still releasing games for the DC ???

[hydr0x]

Psyvariar 2 just got announced for DC. Released at the end of February.

Wait, they are still releasing games for the DC ???

in Japan, yes!

[Fuel Injected]

Psyvariar 2 just got announced for DC. Released at the end of February.

Wait, they are still releasing games for the DC ???

in Japan, yes!

nice, can imports be played with a boot disk etc?

Edit - one more question about that saturn shooter list. Are all those games US Market? Or are there imports in the mix?

[Atari7800]

Edit - one more question about that saturn shooter list. Are all those games US Market? Or are there imports in the mix?

Oh, HELL no! Most are Japanese! I'll post the US-only ones.... the list for "true" 2-D shooters PLUMMETS when you take out the Japanese games...

SATURN SHOOTERS RELEASED IN THE U.S.A.


PURE shooters (vertical or horizontal, sprite or polygonal graphics on a 2-D plane)

Darius Gaiden
Defender (Arcades Greatest Hits: Williams)
Defender II (Arcades Greatest Hits: Williams)
In The Hunt
Galactic Attack



QUASI-3D SHOOTERS (with limited movement)

Afterburner II (on US Sega Ages CD or Japanese stand-alone disk)
Panzer Dragoon
Panzer Dragoon Zwei
Sky Target
Solar Eclipse
Space Harrier (on US Sega Ages CD or Japanese stand-alone disk)



FULL 3-D SHOOTERS

Black Dawn
Black Fire
Darklight Conflict
Independence Day
Shockwave Assault
Star Fighter
Thunderstrike 2
Wing Arms



CLASSIC SHOOTERS (generally one screen, no scrolling)

Asteroids (Arcades Greatest Hits: Atari)
Centipede (Arcades Greatest Hits: Atari)
Missile Command (Arcades Greatest Hits: Atari)
Robotron (Arcades Greatest Hits: Midway)
Space Invaders
Tempest (Arcades Greatest Hits: Atari)
Tempest 2000



QUASI-SHOOTERS (many can be viewed as platform, action, or combat/racing games, but they are more firepower-intensive than most. The inclusion of some of these games may be questionable.)

Burning Rangers
Contra: Legacy of War
Crime Wave
Crusader: No Remorse
Loaded
Mass Destruction

[Atari7800]

oops... take Space Invaders off the Saturn list... never came out in the States.

[Rynex]

Try Rainbow Cotton... better yet, don't try it. While I've heard that it has an excellent anime intro, the game's controls are total ass.

The controls aren't really the issue. The real problem is the camera being dead behind Cotton which obstructs the view of nearly everything you're trying to kill/avoid. It worked for Galaxy Force II (somewhat), but not here. Otherwise, the controls (and graphics) are butter smooth, IMHO.