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hezeuschrist
12-18-2003, 03:21 PM
So the 11 minute mario 3 speed run was amazing, right? Well, it still is but just based on the sheer amount of time it took to create the damn thing. Probably would have been easier to just actually get that good at the game.


I'm sorry for those, like me, who felt that the Mario 3 video was one of the most amazing things they have ever seen. Truth be told, the video is fake.

There proof comes straight from the horses mouth. At the end of the video, there are url's to two different websites. The soramimi.egoism.jp one is the one with the proof. The site is in Japanese, but a translation done exposes the truth.

I QUOTE: ZURU is carried out. It is dropping and moving by the emulator till 1/30 second. Save and loading are repeated and recorded during movie record.
When a mistake is saved and made before a dangerous place, it is touch called loading. The translation is poor, but you get the point.

The video was done on an emulator FRAME by FRAME, with constant usage of save states to correct any errors. The only true feat in the whole video is that a person actually took the time to map out every level and know the patterns for all the enemies. Actually performing the task of playing took little skill, however.

The guy that did the video never actually meant for everyone to believe it was a person playing in real time. He also says: I think I am sorry very much so that the dream of the pure person who considered may be ruined.
It should have written beforehand. and I am very sorry to people considered to be a play by people's hand seriously


Also in the translation, it states that it took the guy 2 years to do it. The Japanese must have a lot of free time on their hands.


For a full transcript of the translation (although it is loose), here is a link

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/url/b..._co=excitejapan



The guy used an emulator, not an NES to play. When he played the emulator, he moved mario frame by frame. He saved every frame of the game, so if he made a mistake he could just go back to the previous frame and correct it. Or, in the case of the hands that come up and snatch you as you pass over the boxes, he just removed the frames of him getting snatched.

Since there are 30 frames playing per second, and the video is 11 minutes long, he went through almost 20,000 individual frames, and then the video basically played the individual frames seamlessly as thought the game were being played in real time.

So I know this has been posted before, but god damn this is ridiculous. It took him 2 years to doctor 20,000 frames just to get a "wow, that's cool" out of random people on the internet.

NE146
12-18-2003, 03:26 PM
uhh it says right there on the Authors page what he did. That was no secret (if you could read japanese I guess) ;)

So it aint fake. "Fake" would be if he tried to pass it off as actual play. He didn't. He made it and he posted it. So what? Personally, I think it's hella nifty!

Jive3D
12-18-2003, 03:43 PM
well I cant read much japanese, only a little. but I suspected the thing was fake b/c there are multiple points in the movie where it seems like he is loading save states.

so there ya go.

Ze_ro
12-18-2003, 06:11 PM
Just because it wasn't a "real" run doesn't make it any less cool... after all, Lord of the Rings wasn't real either, and people still enjoyed that.

Frankly, I'm glad to know that there isn't someone who devoted their life to actually getting all that done perfectly anyways :roll:

--Zero

Balloon Fight
12-18-2003, 08:28 PM
Its still a cool video, but the guy that did it better go outside before he uses all of the oxygen in his basement. :eek 2:

badinsults
12-19-2003, 04:37 AM
Wow, it certainly wasn't surprising it was fake. :roll:


Yeah, it was pretty obvious that it was fake, but it is still way cool.

TheSmirk
12-19-2003, 09:12 AM
Is there a website that has these speed runs on it? Real and fabricated.....kinda like you'd go to gamecombos.com for fighting game combo movies

GrandAmChandler
12-19-2003, 10:17 AM
Y a know, the notion did cross my mind that it was fake, especially at the hands part.. I just shrugged it off as a REALLY good player, and let it slide.


I think someone needs to do a REAL run at it and time it.

slip81
12-19-2003, 10:23 AM
this site has some pretty good speed runs, although i do not know the validity of them, but even fakes are cool to watch:)

http://nes.greatstreamingvideo.com/

TheSmirk
12-19-2003, 10:37 AM
@slip81 - Thanks!

I found some more and just got done watching the SMB3 one...

For metroid:
http://www.classicgaming.com/msr/

1bigmig
12-19-2003, 10:48 AM
Y a know, the notion did cross my mind that it was fake, especially at the hands part

The hands have been mentioned a few times, but it seems like the last time I played through the game I went across fast without getting caught. Maybe not though, Ill check next time.

Raccoon Lad
12-19-2003, 12:38 PM
It is possible to cross without getting caught, but it almost never happens. (not getting caught, that is.)

GrandAmChandler
12-19-2003, 02:04 PM
Yeah I have done it before without getting caught either, but usually you do.


Side note: I still remember being scared half to death after being pulled down the very first time, one of the biggest surprises in the game.