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Zubiac666
12-25-2003, 12:41 PM
Just thought I'd share this GREAT news with you.
Nintendo's next console "N5" will play gamecube(and maybe others too-?) games as well!

In an interview with Famitsu, the head of Nintendo Satoru Iwata has stated the N5 will have backwards compatibility.:

"It will be able to use the games already created in the previous generation. And it is something that will work. Side performances and graphics, one reached today a kind of limit with a quality which is already close to realism and it will be difficult to still much better do. The role of Nintendo is thus to study other ways in order to improve the experience of the player."



source:
http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=5916
:D

Querjek
12-25-2003, 12:50 PM
Wow... I'm shocked. I love Nintendo to pieces, but I never thought that they would be smart enough to add backward-compatibility to a home console.

kainemaxwell
12-25-2003, 01:06 PM
Wonder how far "backwards" the N5 will go?

aaron_157
12-25-2003, 02:29 PM
well he says it will play games from the previous generation, so that means gamecube is all.

Sylentwulf
12-25-2003, 05:20 PM
IT will play all generations, you'll just have to buy them on a specially re-released disc at $35 each per NES, and SNES game, and full price for N64 and GC games.

Gameboy games will not be compatible since they are not consoles, but an adapter will be made for $75 so that you can play them on the console.

In additional news, they will be using square optical discs.

Flack
12-25-2003, 06:43 PM
$35 per game? Boy, talk about milking the market. How much of a market is there for $35 vintage games? I kind of thought everyone who wanted to play, say, Super Mario Brothers, has figured out a way by now -- whether it's through vintage hardware or simple emulation.

GaijinPunch
12-25-2003, 07:28 PM
Uh... I think you missed the joke.

Flack
12-25-2003, 07:38 PM
I think I did too.

Blame it on a combination of marketing greediness and a lack of sleep.

GaijinPunch
12-25-2003, 08:49 PM
I'd love to see some backwards compatibility or something at least. Keeping all those damn systems is just not practical for those that live in small places. I'll probaby never throw away my Xbox, just b/c it can play basically all my 8-bit and 16-bit games.

Griking
12-26-2003, 12:15 AM
and suddenly Gamestop will be tripping all over themselves to start building up their N64 and earlier Nintendo inventories again.

Bratwurst
12-26-2003, 12:20 AM
This backward business will probably be limited to the Gamecube and maybe Gameboy Advance. I'd be surprised if NES/SNES were included but it would suck big time because then asshole sellers would jack up prices just like they've been doing with Gameboy carts cos' they're still 'viable.'

Flack
12-26-2003, 12:53 AM
One of the PS2's biggest selling points was its backward compatibility -- so much that the PS3 will be PS2 AND PS1 compatible.

It's hard enough convincing people to buy new consoles every generation, but making sure their old games still work is one way to ease the blow.

pango
12-26-2003, 01:04 AM
well...when i design the best ever in the universe ultra super pirate famicom...it will be compatable with...famicom...god damn im a loser

RetroYoungen
12-26-2003, 03:07 PM
At least it's backwards compatible, it shows that maybe, just maybe, they're trying to keep gamers happy instead of just trying to take us for everything we've got.

...though it seems that way still.

IntvGene
12-26-2003, 03:42 PM
It's good news that Nintendo is going to be using backwards compatibilty in the next systems, but it's hardly surprising, or groundbreaking.

You know what I'd love to see a company do.. not that it is feasible, but let the next systems play the old ones and circumvent the copy protection of the old games. So, let's say.. the PS3 could play copied PS2 games..

Now that would sell systems. :-P

Captain Wrong
12-26-2003, 05:55 PM
IT will play all generations, you'll just have to buy them on a specially re-released disc at $35 each per NES, and SNES game, and full price for N64 and GC games.

Gameboy games will not be compatible since they are not consoles, but an adapter will be made for $75 so that you can play them on the console.

In additional news, they will be using square optical discs.


Classic.

Ze_ro
12-26-2003, 06:03 PM
Uh... I think you missed the joke.

Sadly, Sylentwulf is probably not far off from the truth. There's no way they'll put a cartridge port on their next system (although a GB Player is always a possibility)... but I'm sure they'll keep re-releasing games on disc. After all, the Zelda Classics disc probably sold quite a few systems, games, and NP subscriptions.

I fully expect to see an F-Zero compilation disc eventually. Perhaps a Donkey Kong collection too (assuming Rare doesn't own all the rights to those games).

--Zero

hydr0x
12-28-2003, 01:59 AM
Uh... I think you missed the joke.I fully expect to see an F-Zero compilation disc eventually. Perhaps a Donkey Kong collection too (assuming Rare doesn't own all the rights to those games).

--Zero

no, Nintendos owns the Donkey Kong name rights and should also own all publishing/distribution/using rights for the old DK games

kai123
12-28-2003, 05:47 AM
Great to hear. Will the Xbox 2 support backward compatibility? I haven't heard if it will or not.

On the subject of rehashes wasn't this the same board that jumps up and down when a new 2600 collection is released? Most people don't have these old games and if you do what do you care? Don't buy them. I would love to see a new 2d side scroller mario as much as the next guy. Why go with the trouble of developing a new game when you can sell another million of Mario 3? They could cut the price on them though to soften the blow.

Sylentwulf
12-28-2003, 07:33 AM
Great to hear. Will the Xbox 2 support backward compatibility? I haven't heard if it will or not.

On the subject of rehashes wasn't this the same board that jumps up and down when a new 2600 collection is released? Most people don't have these old games and if you do what do you care? Don't buy them. I would love to see a new 2d side scroller mario as much as the next guy. Why go with the trouble of developing a new game when you can sell another million of Mario 3? They could cut the price on them though to soften the blow.

Because they DID sell another million mario 3, THIS YEAR, and they DIDN'T cut the price AT ALL. On the GBA, just like they sold another million mario 2, and mario 1 without cutting the price AT ALL, and a ton of other SNES ports, without cutting the price, AT ALL.

Ze_ro
12-28-2003, 02:24 PM
no, Nintendos owns the Donkey Kong name rights and should also own all publishing/distribution/using rights for the old DK games

I thought I remembered a game (Mario Kart 64?) where it said that the Donkey Kong model was used with permission from Rare. Perhaps that was just for that specific 3D model though.

--Zero

Querjek
12-28-2003, 03:34 PM
no, Nintendos owns the Donkey Kong name rights and should also own all publishing/distribution/using rights for the old DK games

I thought I remembered a game (Mario Kart 64?) where it said that the Donkey Kong model was used with permission from Rare. Perhaps that was just for that specific 3D model though.

--Zero
My guess is Mario Party (don't know which) as MK64 used sprites if I remember.

Lady Jaye
12-28-2003, 03:42 PM
The Donkey Kong name itself is copyright Nintendo. But it would make sense if the visual redesign done by Rare for DK Country would be under Rare's copyright.

Cmosfm
12-28-2003, 04:56 PM
well...when i design the best ever in the universe ultra super pirate famicom...it will be compatable with...famicom...god damn im a loser

LMAO! Yep, thats it, and it will be chipped so it can't even play NES games...only Famicom.

GamecubeFreek
12-29-2003, 12:35 AM
I may be the only one, but I do not want the next Nintendo console to be backwards compatable. Sure it may help sell some more systems(even if it does mean it will cost more), but for me, it will make my Cube feel somewhat less special. I do not want it to suffer the same fate as my PS1 (in a box in my closet) just because I can play them on an upgraded system. I love everything about the Gamecube, but if I do not need it out to play it's games, then it will not be out. And wont it raise the price of the next system to add backwards compatability?

pango
12-29-2003, 01:06 AM
well...when i design the best ever in the universe ultra super pirate famicom...it will be compatable with...famicom...god damn im a loser

LMAO! Yep, thats it, and it will be chipped so it can't even play NES games...only Famicom.

damn strait 8-)

Xskaterjake
12-29-2003, 01:36 PM
Haha Mintendo must feel pretty smug after the 99 dollar price drop. Anyways im buying N5 regardless of backwards compatabitlity, because Nintendo sucks at dissapointing. I mean, isn't gamecube, without being backwards, still a great system that any gamer should play?

Sylentwulf
12-29-2003, 04:07 PM
N5 - I have to say, I REALLY don't like that name.....

Nintendo Entertainment System
Super Nintendo Entertainment System
Nintendo 64
Nintendo Gamecube
N5

Which one of THOSE doesn't belong?

pango
12-29-2003, 09:17 PM
N5 sounds like some kind of rap group.

Anotherfluke
12-30-2003, 12:24 AM
N5 isn't official, it's just a net term for the 5th generation Nintendo Hardware.

bargora
12-30-2003, 12:55 AM
Sillies! Of course the next Nintendo console won't be called N5.

I hear they're going to call it the "N-Gage".

Nature Boy
12-30-2003, 10:28 AM
Because they DID sell another million mario 3, THIS YEAR, and they DIDN'T cut the price AT ALL. On the GBA, just like they sold another million mario 2, and mario 1 without cutting the price AT ALL, and a ton of other SNES ports, without cutting the price, AT ALL.

I'm guessing that will change once PSP becomes a reality. Look at what PS2/Xbox/GC competition has done to the price of new games. Now look at the GBA and you can understand why they don't bother dropping prices *ever* (let alone on games they know will sell).

As much as I'm a Nintendo fan I'm *really* looking forward to Sony entering the handheld market and seeing some competition drive down prices. If they think they'll still be able to sell NES games at the same prices as PSP games they'll be in for a rude awakening.

Ze_ro
12-30-2003, 09:02 PM
And of course, the fact that Sony will be using discs instead of cartridges means that production prices will be lower, which means the games will be priced lower, right? right...?

--Zero

crashdummycow01
12-30-2003, 10:34 PM
but arent the discs inside cartidges?

anyways.. every generation of systems, the processor doubles.. so does this mean that the next systems will be 256-bit systems? if so..

nintendo should call their system the Nintendo 256.. and everyone will call it the n256 :eek 2: just kidding lol..

i actually think the next nintendo will be the Nintendo GameSphere, or something related to a sphere.. just because its something different.

i'm not sure about the playstation. Just because sony made the playstation and then the playstation 2, doesnt necessarily guarantee that the next system will be Playstation 3. You never know, sony may throw a curveball this time.. or maybe not.

i dont think the xbox will be called "x-box 2".. i'm sure they'll come up with something a little more imaginative.

my wish:
i wish that nintendo/sony/microsoft/sega would join up.. have one system.. and they would all make games for it. They wouldnt have to worry about out doing each other.. with the technology of all of the companies put together, it would undoubtedly be a real good system. Also you wouldnt have to buy a console just because of a few games that u like from that console.. say somebody likes mario but only likes 2 games from the Gamecube and they are mario games.. right now u would have to buy the gamecube or just not have the games.. if they came together you wouldnt have to worry about this..

i believe this will happen.. sort of.. if nintendo dies and starts making games for the playstation.. [bill gates would never make games for the playstation or nintendo if the xbox series dies out]...[and nintendo aims at such a young age group that they wouldnt allow most of the really cool sony games on a nintendo console]..

anywayz i got slightly off topic but not too much i hope

Ze_ro
12-31-2003, 12:17 AM
anyways.. every generation of systems, the processor doubles.. so does this mean that the next systems will be 256-bit systems? if so..

You don't really believe that the X-Box is running a 128-bit processor, do you?

--Zero

Half Japanese
12-31-2003, 01:31 AM
Yeah, let's consolidate into one big company so prices will go down and originality will reawaken x_x . I think it would be nice and ironic if Nintendo and Sega got together and did something as a joint venture...although I'd be frightened by the joint result of any financial venture those two invested in. The Gamecube is probably my favorite current gen system, and I hope Nintendo can get a good share of the market next go-round, backwards compatibility will always soften the blow and loosen the wallets of parents and eager gamers, so it's a good thing in my opnion.

kai123
12-31-2003, 02:51 AM
What I can't wait for is all the portable versions of all of those playstation games. If anybody here thinks that sony is not going to do what nintendo did is crazy. They will have maybe more rehashes. Especially if it is very easy to program for.

punkoffgirl
12-31-2003, 06:52 AM
but arent the discs inside cartidges?


:hmm:


As far as names go, companies aren't always interested in something completely new and different. Brand name recognition goes a LONG way towards increasing sales. Change a name too much, it doesn't seem familiar anymore.

kai123
12-31-2003, 09:11 AM
I think he means they will be like mini discs.