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Anthony1
01-09-2004, 12:09 AM
I have that Sony widescreen TV, that is 51 inches. You see it all the time in the Circuit City and Best Buy ads.

It's a 51 inch HDTV by Sony.

Anyways, I'm wondering if anybody has this same TV, and if they have a Super Nintendo.

The reason that I ask, is because for some reason, whenever I hook up the SNES to this TV, I get some weird video anomolies. I've hooked every system known to man to this thing, and everything has worked fine except the SNES. At first I thought it was a problem with the SNES. So I tried different SNES systems. Then I thought it might be the type of cable. So I tried all different kinds of cables. Then I tried running the video signal though another device, and then to the TV. I tried it through the VCR, no luck.

Basically, I've tried everything I can think of, and I was wondering if anybody else has had this TV and a SNES and had this problem with it.

I'm thinking the only way that I'm going to be able to play SNES games on this TV without this weird video anomolie, is to play them through emulation on my XBOX.

By the way the video anomolie is this weird "tearing" of the image, or a splitiing of the image, that seems to happen every 30 seconds or so.

Ed Oscuro
01-09-2004, 12:22 AM
Somebody at another forum I visit mentioned the same problem (SNES on a Sony HDTV) a while ago (forumplanet.com/classicgaming I believe). I did post it as a question here, and I think the answer was there's something in Progressive scan mode. Maybe that was a red herring, but I remember that being mentioned. Something you probably can't turn off, too...

Sounds like Sony's campaign to make Nintendo systems unplayable, eh?

hu6800
01-09-2004, 08:09 AM
I have that Sony widescreen TV, that is 51 inches. You see it all the time in the Circuit City and Best Buy ads.

It's a 51 inch HDTV by Sony.

Anyways, I'm wondering if anybody has this same TV, and if they have a Super Nintendo.

The reason that I ask, is because for some reason, whenever I hook up the SNES to this TV, I get some weird video anomolies. I've hooked every system known to man to this thing, and everything has worked fine except the SNES. At first I thought it was a problem with the SNES. So I tried different SNES systems. Then I thought it might be the type of cable. So I tried all different kinds of cables. Then I tried running the video signal though another device, and then to the TV. I tried it through the VCR, no luck.

Basically, I've tried everything I can think of, and I was wondering if anybody else has had this TV and a SNES and had this problem with it.

I'm thinking the only way that I'm going to be able to play SNES games on this TV without this weird video anomolie, is to play them through emulation on my XBOX.

By the way the video anomolie is this weird "tearing" of the image, or a splitiing of the image, that seems to happen every 30 seconds or so.

well here is my sony HDTV i just got a week ago
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hu6800/detail?.dir=/Gear&.dnm=6591098882_235.jpg
believe it or not, even being a new tv it still needs to be tuned.
my buddy came over and calibrated the tv himself and now
it looks 7X better than when it came out of the box.
i mean, he opened the back and ran a test dvd and adjusted everything.

but,
it did play my snes when i first got it and it still does.
I used the universal AV cables you can buy that hook up
to the xbox, NGC and psx2

autobotracing
01-09-2004, 08:59 AM
thats wierd I had no problems on my phillips

Anthony1
01-09-2004, 05:08 PM
hu6800: So you are still getting the video anomolie?


What your buddy did to your set was a professional calibration. To tune the right amount of gray scale and contrast and black level and stuff like that. What that does is give you the best possible picture that you can get from the Set. That shouldn't affect this anomolie one way or another though.



My Set looks great. I don't have any problems with anything other than the SNES. It's very specific to the SNES. Everything else looks fine on it.

Raedon
01-09-2004, 05:30 PM
The problem has been mentioned here before about a year ago.. It is one of the reasons I am waiting on a HDTV.. Some have problems with AV sources.

chrisballer
01-09-2004, 09:30 PM
I have a phillips hd big screen i can play nes,snes and the new systems but not my dc or saturn i have tryed diff cables also the problem i get is the image shakes on the screen. :o

The Clonus Horror
01-09-2004, 09:49 PM
I know this won't help, but "anomolie" is spelled "anomaly."

Anthony1
01-09-2004, 10:23 PM
I know this won't help, but "anomolie" is spelled "anomaly."


Thanks. I knew I was probablly spelling it wrong. But I figured people would know what I meant by it.

Anthony1
01-09-2004, 10:25 PM
The problem has been mentioned here before about a year ago.. It is one of the reasons I am waiting on a HDTV.. Some have problems with AV sources.


I really wouldn't worry too much. The problem that this Sony has with the SNES is probably a very, very rare situation. Most HDTV's handle all signals fine. And even mine handles all signals fine, but for some reason it has a problem with the SNES.

But I doubt that other HDTV's have this problem.

wberdan
01-10-2004, 10:56 AM
this is just a wild guess, but it would seem that maybe the progressive scan chip in the television isnt compatible with the particular signal that system puts out... usually if there is any kind of 'tearing' its some progressive scan issue.
it sucks, but i dont know what you can do

willie

Anthony1
01-13-2004, 06:42 PM
this is just a wild guess, but it would seem that maybe the progressive scan chip in the television isnt compatible with the particular signal that system puts out... usually if there is any kind of 'tearing' its some progressive scan issue.
it sucks, but i dont know what you can do

willie


Yeah, but my SNES isn't using any of the progressive scan functions of the set. I've connected the SNES via S-Video, Composite and RF. None of those outputs would have anything to do with the progressive scan functions of the TV.

I'm going to try to call Nintendo and see if they know anything.

Yeah, right, like they will know anything about it.

Jasoco
01-13-2004, 07:22 PM
I know this won't help, but "anomolie" is spelled "anomaly."


Thanks. I knew I was probablly spelling it wrong. But I figured people would know what I meant by it.This is why I love Safari's built-in Spell Checking.

I wish I knew what to do with MY TV. It's not Sony. It's not even flat. It's only a CRT RCA. I think it's 21". But I don't know. Anyway, whenever something really bright is on screen, it turns red and you hear static and the more bright spots, the louder the sound is and the redder the picture. It's horrible, but as far as I've tried, I can't fix it.

It was free. But practically brand new from an old lady who couldn't figure out how to use it. It doesn't occur on video games (I guess none have gotten bright enough yet.) though, when playing Genesis and the screen changes to bright flash rapidly, (Like in Comix Zone when lightning flashes) it rolls for a millisecond and looks weird. I know that can't be normal, but it's on all Genesis' I have. All two of them.

Raedon
01-14-2004, 12:09 PM
I wish I knew what to do with MY TV. It's not Sony. It's not even flat. It's only a CRT RCA. I think it's 21". But I don't know. Anyway, whenever something really bright is on screen, it turns red and you hear static and the more bright spots, the louder the sound is and the redder the picture. It's horrible, but as far as I've tried, I can't fix it.




Could be a couple of things..

RF Modulation problem (if you only have one wire to the TV and the Coax IN)

New RF box.

signal processor problem - or something like that.. (this won't help you but) I have an old JVC 27" and several 'what brand is this? Somy? Zerith?' at work that have a problem were color smears.. sometimes even into the audio.

hu6800
01-14-2004, 12:47 PM
thats wierd I had no problems on my phillips

thats wierd, he said sony..

hu6800
01-14-2004, 12:51 PM
Christ...

Ok

The only tv to have major problems with videogame systems
were ones made by Zenith..

I had a Philips and im glad it's gone..
it was NEW and it blew up and had to be services 3 times.
Only the Flagship expensive RCA's are any good.

The Sony 51" HDTV is a really nice tv
get the AV cables for your snes, dont use an RF .
they sell a nice set at blockbuster video for $10

Mike Sanders
01-14-2004, 03:34 PM
By the way the video anomolie is this weird "tearing" of the image, or a splitiing of the image, that seems to happen every 30 seconds or so.

It sounds like your TV is trying to upconvert an interlaced image into a pogressive scan image, and not pulling it off very well. If you've got other systems that only output an interlaced image (NES, Genesis, etc.) try hooking them up and see if they do the same thing. If they do it's undoubtedly a problem with the "Digital Reality Creation" hardware in the TV.

Anthony1
01-14-2004, 03:54 PM
By the way the video anomolie is this weird "tearing" of the image, or a splitiing of the image, that seems to happen every 30 seconds or so.

It sounds like your TV is trying to upconvert an interlaced image into a pogressive scan image, and not pulling it off very well. If you've got other systems that only output an interlaced image (NES, Genesis, etc.) try hooking them up and see if they do the same thing. If they do it's undoubtedly a problem with the "Digital Reality Creation" hardware in the TV.


You see, that's the thing. I've hooked up all kinds of "interlaced systems" to this TV, and none of them have had this problem but the SNES. The NES, TG-16, Genny, Sega CD, 32X, Jag, Sat, PSX, N64, none of them have had this problem.