LINUX on GAMECUBE [Archive] - Retrogaming Roundtable

The Unknown Gamer

01-20-2004, 07:38 PM

Just saw this and thought I pass this along....

www.gc-linux.org

Darth Sensei

01-20-2004, 07:47 PM

Why would you bother considering the XBOX is a much more powerful console? It's already been done so now someone needs to do the GC? :hmm:

D

Ze_ro

01-20-2004, 08:34 PM

When you're a geek, and you're bored, then you're fully expected to port Linux to something.

--Zero

calthaer

01-20-2004, 09:31 PM

Those geeks' time would be better spent making Linux more user-friendly, and / or porting games over to Linux.

If Linux had an excellent, working MS DOS 6.22 emulator for me to run all my old DOS games with, then I'd install it. Until then - who besides web-server-admins would ever care about Linux?

Sph1nx

01-20-2004, 09:42 PM

Lots of people.. linux has superior math / programming apps. (IMHO)

AB Positive

01-20-2004, 10:07 PM

Dont forget two graphic apps that rival their Windows counterparts in every way (GIMP - Photoshop... Blender - Lightwave).

I'm a linux graphics freak, what can I say.

Anyway, when there's an OS built on the NES, I see no reason not to have Linux on the GCN :D

-AG

Ze_ro

01-20-2004, 10:38 PM

If Linux had an excellent, working MS DOS 6.22 emulator for me to run all my old DOS games with, then I'd install it. Until then - who besides web-server-admins would ever care about Linux?

How about Dosbox (http://dosbox.sf.net)? It's still a little young, but it already does very well.

--Zero

calthaer

01-20-2004, 11:43 PM

I've not had much success with Dosbox. Either the sound is stuttering and horribly distorted, or it just doesn't work at all. It's better at this point to have a real Dosbox, which I do.

And GIMP is available for Windows as well as Linux, so I wouldn't list that as some sort of point in Linux' favor. I don't care about all the programmer crap Linux can do - I want TEH GAMEZ.

tholly

01-21-2004, 12:10 AM

I'm not really into Linux so I personally don't see a point to it. I really don't see a point to modding a console or changing how they come from the factory at all, but that's just me. If I really wanted to use Linux that bad, I would just install it on a real computer.

GaijinPunch

01-21-2004, 01:33 AM

[quote="calthaer"]Those geeks' time would be better spent making Linux more user-friendly, and / or porting games over to Linux.

B/c the friendly something gets, the shittier it gets (EG: Windows). Linux geeks laugh at Windows b/c anyone can do it, but for the ease and funcionality, it becomes a big old piece of shit. Hardcore Unix guys that grew up on Unix often dog Linux, b/c X-Windows makes it easy enough for newbies that don't mind doing a bit of searching.

Mac OS X is a good example of "friendly" and "Linux", and why it doesn't work. It's still MAC, and they try their best to hid the guts from the user. The essence of Linux is in the terminal, and OS X, and even some newer distros are trying to hide that from the user.

Oobgarm

01-21-2004, 03:07 AM

Anyway, when there's an OS built on the NES, I see no reason not to have Linux on the GCN :D

Wa-wa-what?

An NES OS? WTF? Where might I be able to see something like this?

nesuser2

01-21-2004, 03:18 AM

why not dog on the fact that they actually released linux for ps2, obviously somebody cares....otherweis it wouldn't have been released...

one other note, I thought the xbox was really powerful(higher speed) but not quite as strong as it's competitors. A celeron type console......I could easily be wrong but I was thinking that for some reason...

Jasoco

01-21-2004, 04:04 AM

So, how does this work? The Cube doesn't have a HD. What's can this do?

Flack

01-21-2004, 05:07 AM

All the people I know who use Linux for their desktop spend most of their time complaining how their machines won't run this or that. Then when you send them a file they sigh and say, "let me boot into Windows real quick."

I run Windows because that's what 99% of the software out there I need and use is designed for, not because I particularly like it.

YoshiM

01-21-2004, 10:49 AM

So, how does this work? The Cube doesn't have a HD. What's can this do?

Basically the GC is used as a "thin client" of sorts by relying on a server for software loading and data saving. The Linux crowd are saying this would make for great low cost thin clients. However after the price of the Cube, a compatible keyboard and mouse (if available) jacks the price amount close to what a cheap PC would be.

Linux is pretty cool but I'd rather have it more functional on a desktop than people seeing if they can install a kernel in a TV set.

rbudrick

01-21-2004, 12:31 PM

NES OS? Are you talking about the BIOS? Wha? Huh?

-ROb

Jasoco

01-21-2004, 06:26 PM

So, how does this work? The Cube doesn't have a HD. What's can this do?

Basically the GC is used as a "thin client" of sorts by relying on a server for software loading and data saving. The Linux crowd are saying this would make for great low cost thin clients. However after the price of the Cube, a compatible keyboard and mouse (if available) jacks the price amount close to what a cheap PC would be.

Linux is pretty cool but I'd rather have it more functional on a desktop than people seeing if they can install a kernel in a TV set.
Bah. Unless I can load my entire website on a Cube and install Apache and have it sit alone, I'll stick to using an old computer.

slapdash

01-25-2004, 12:13 AM

Forget Linux on the Gamecube, I'm still trying to get my hands on MacOS for the Genesis...

So, how does this work? The Cube doesn't have a HD. What's can this do?

Hey, at least the Gamecube has memory cards for storage... What did the Genesis have for MacOS to use?

(Hmm, maybe I should have posted this in the holy grails thread...)

Jasoco

01-25-2004, 12:25 AM

Forget Linux on the Gamecube, I'm still trying to get my hands on MacOS for the Genesis...

Unless you show me proof that that exists, I don't believe you. I doubt there's a "Mac OS" for Genesis.

nesuser2

01-25-2004, 02:29 AM

Well...just to throw in my two cents. Sounds like somebodies talkin smack, cuz anybody that refers to memory cards as "storage" indeed needs smacked :smash:

slapdash

01-25-2004, 03:20 AM

Forget Linux on the Gamecube, I'm still trying to get my hands on MacOS for the Genesis...

Unless you show me proof that that exists, I don't believe you. I doubt there's a "Mac OS" for Genesis.

I'm still trying to find it myself. It was shown at MacWorld. It was a hack, of course, since it wouldn't do much of any use, but the Macs at the time and the Genesis had the same processor (68000), and that was all it took for someone to hack the MacOS toolbox onto an EPROM cartridge.

Oh, and nesuser.... bite me. :-p

Jasoco

01-25-2004, 03:23 AM

Forget Linux on the Gamecube, I'm still trying to get my hands on MacOS for the Genesis...

Unless you show me proof that that exists, I don't believe you. I doubt there's a "Mac OS" for Genesis.

I'm still trying to find it myself. It was shown at MacWorld. It was a hack, of course, since it wouldn't do much of any use, but the Macs at the time and the Genesis had the same processor (68000), and that was all it took for someone to hack the MacOS toolbox onto an EPROM cartridge.

Oh, and nesuser.... bite me. :-pIf that is real, I would kill to have it.

Either that or the Genesis 1 Karaoke Module. It looks so damn cool.

nesuser2

01-25-2004, 03:38 AM

Forget Linux on the Gamecube, I'm still trying to get my hands on MacOS for the Genesis...

Unless you show me proof that that exists, I don't believe you. I doubt there's a "Mac OS" for Genesis.

I'm still trying to find it myself. It was shown at MacWorld. It was a hack, of course, since it wouldn't do much of any use, but the Macs at the time and the Genesis had the same processor (68000), and that was all it took for someone to hack the MacOS toolbox onto an EPROM cartridge.

Oh, and nesuser.... bite me. :-p

Where at!?!?!?!? :evil:

Jorpho

01-25-2004, 12:10 PM

There was indeed a minor OS released for the NES (and many other old consoles), although since network hardware for the NES is not widely available, it doesn't do much. Google for "Contiki".

The reason all this Linux porting baffles me is that you still can't run anything under the ported Linux until you manage to find some way to recompile the software, right?

calthaer

01-25-2004, 03:47 PM

The whole point of a multiplatform OS is to make it such that you don't have to recompile software for each different processor / hardware configuration.

And neuser - "at" doesn't belong at the end of a sentence (unless you're from an extremely rural area).

Jorpho

01-25-2004, 04:41 PM

Then why are many programs distributed as PPC binaries and x86 binaries?

Jorpho

01-25-2004, 04:46 PM

Then why are many programs distributed as PPC binaries and x86 binaries?

Tom61

01-25-2004, 06:07 PM

The whole point of a multiplatform OS is to make it such that you don't have to recompile software for each different processor / hardware configuration.

Um, no, that's the point of an interperative OS, which Linux isn't.

The reason all this Linux porting baffles me is that you still can't run anything under the ported Linux until you manage to find some way to recompile the software, right?

You can use what's called a 'cross-compilier' on a PC to compile apps for the Gamecube.

So, how does this work? The Cube doesn't have a HD. What's can this do?

With the relatively easy to find Broadband adapter, you could use this as a diskless workstation (have a network share setup to run stuff off of). Gamecube has a semi-official keyboard, not sure about a mouse, and you can modify the digital video cable to output VGA, making it farirly close to a PC. Probably not terribly cost effective compared to a low end PC, but if you already have a Gamecube, why not?