Square-Enix, I hate you.

[Gamereviewgod]

Note to the fine folks at Square-Enix: Stop. I figured it was just the Christmas holiday season, but it still continues. I cannont fathom why you are still spending the money. It's illogical, it's annoying, and for the record I will never buy another one of your games....ever. That's right, your TV and print ads have officially driven me to the brink of sheer insnanity and now have had the opposite effect.

I must either watch every show in your target demographic or you are simply trying to mesmerize every 10 year old into your tired Final Fantasy series. Whenever I hear the words "I Know, I know," I immediately change the station. The rest of the words are unitelligable and the song is borderline infuriating at this point. During the Chritmas season, I was bombarded by ads for True Crime, Tony Hawk Underground, Max Payne, and your junk. I accepted it and nearly lived with it. It has now been a month and I still see the same stupid ad filled with misleading CG cinemas 10 times a day (and that's NOT an exaggeration). The other ads have stopped. Yours have not.

If this wasn't bad enough, your 4 page ads clog up my magazines and in the worst cases, even take over the cover. I'm not sure if you think that their is at least one person out there who may have escaped your evil grasp, but anyone who wanted your game in the first place has it. Magazines are done covering it and moving on to the next chapter, so why are you still blasting me?

I fully understand the rough market out there, filled with hundereds of games vying for consumer dollars. However, your game is Final Fantasy, a series that has been around for 15+ years. Anyone who knows about your RPG's knows there's a new game in the series. Mainstream America has never embraced RPG's and likely never will. Final Fantasy 7, arguably the most overly popular game in the entire series, sold billions of copies on about 3 advertisements total.

So Square-Enix, if you can see my point (and I think it's pretty obvious), your not going to sell anymore copies by bombarding the airwaves and discgracing my otherwise fine magazine covers. I can never again look at Yuna like I once did as her image now completely disgusts me. Her voice is nausitating, the song irratating, and that 30 second clip of an already horrific pop song is now simply too much to bear. I used to respect you, but I am now officially disowning you for not only this generation, but all of them to follow as well. Of course, a second sequel to Chrono Trigger may change my mind....

[kevincure]

Do you remember when FF7 came out? Now *that* was a lot of ads, both television and print. I don't think their recent advertising has been anywhere near that level.

In any case, the games are still good, right? That's all that should matter, I would think.

[Cheese]

a friend of mine worked at a local movie theater and got me the 35mm comercial they used to play in theaters before movies for FF7. If I remember correctly it was pretty impressive.

I haven't seen the FFx-2 comercial more then a few times, you must be the definition of their target audience.

[WiseSalesman]

There's an easy way around the TV ads. Do I what I do. Stop watching TV. there's no programming that's worth a damn anyway.

[rbudrick]

Gamereview god is just confused by his new-found overpowering feelings of lust for Yuna and her almost naked hottie pixelized girlfriends.

Roowr! Hang in ther buddy. I feel your pain.

You know you love that song. You're just confused. It's much more fun to listen to it while naked.

-Rob

[WiseSalesman]

In any case, the games are still good, right? That's all that should matter, I would think.

Uh...WRONG. Have you PLAYED FFX-2? What a piece of crap.

[tynstar]

There's an easy way around the TV ads. Do I what I do. Stop watching TV. there's no programming that's worth a damn anyway.

This is what I was going to say. WiseSalesman you are indeed wise.

[ubersaurus]

There's an easy way around the TV ads. Do I what I do. Stop watching TV. there's no programming that's worth a damn anyway.

Adult Swim +The Triple H Show=I watch tv

[Raedon]

FF X-2 is for girls. There, I said it..

[YoshiM]

I see the commercials as games within themselves. In fact every past Final Fantasy commercial from 7 on up was a fun game. I'm sure some of you have played it and didn't even know it. It goes like this:

"Movie.....movie....movie..ooooo actual game screen.....movie...movie....WOW Another Game Shot...movie...end of commercial."

For Final Fantasy 7 and 8 I pretty much sang the advertising jingle for the Starz movie pack ("movies movies movies mooovies movies movies mooo..oo--oo vies..when I want movies I wanna buy Square")

Kidding aside if you watch any channel that's considered "mainstream" or "hip and trendy" you WILL be bombarded. The MTVs, Spike TV, Fuse, Comedy Central and I'm sure there are others usually show a lot of FF X-2 ads. Repeatedly. During the same block of the particular show you are watching.

One plus the song isn't too bad.

[Achika]

FF X-2 is for girls. There, I said it..

And then, even we didn't find it that great.

[Sotenga]

So, what I'm hearing is that FFX-2 is total ass. Even my brother thinks that actually making an FF game with direct continuity to a previous game is a stupid idea. Should I skip FFX-2? I am an FF fan, but I'm not keen on RPG's in general.

[hezeuschrist]

Here's my interpretation of FFX-2.

"What the hell?"

"Woah, fast battles"

"Shut up Rikku"

"This battle system would kick ass if I didn't have to dress them up"

"Do I really have to visit the same 12 locations again?"

"Woah, Vegnagun looks badass!"

"May as well finish it"

"Holy shit, that's the most badass thing I've ever seen in a videogame"

"..."

"..............................................."

"That game sucked."

[SoulBlazer]

Okay, this may make me VERY unpopular around here -- but hey, when was I ever popular? Not at any point in my life I can think off. :D

I LIKED FF X-2! :eek 2:

There, I said it. Mock me and move on allready people. We'll all entitled to our opinions. ;)

[djbeatmongrel]

I was actually kind of turned off to any current FF after playing FF7(great game except i think the story was a little lame), with the exception of tactics which is awesome. now dont get me wrong, i have a great respect for the series and how its brought the rpg scene to many peoples attention but its getting milked more than a 5 uttered cow at a bestiality convention (yes i said it!) This annoying pop oriented charlies angels rip off of a commerial is a prime example of it. they are trying to market to the DOA beach volleyball crowd and its sad. Once a highly respected series is pimping its self out like $2 whore. i understand they are trying to recoop losses from the past few years but they are going the wrong way about it. :(

and one other thing, i sympathise with GamieReviewGod. every time i hear the "I Know, I know" part i just want grab all three of those pixelated sluts and yell "I know you need to shut the fuck up you stupid hoes!" :bad-words:

PS, no offense to the classy ladies off the forums *wink wink* ;)

[§ Gideon §]

I'm with the queer folk in the above posts: I don't watch television, so I haven't seen the ads.

[kainemaxwell]

FFX-2 really isn't that bad.

[Neil Koch]

I hate those commericals as well. I was never really interested in FF -- now I want to stay the hell away from that game.

[hezeuschrist]

It really wasn't a bad game, but it wasn't that good either. The battle system was pretty kick ass, and Vegnagun was one of the coolest things I've ever seen in a videogame. But, the end was blown hardcore, and the final boss wasn't even close to challenging. The ending was incredibly bland.

Color me disappointed.

[WiseSalesman]

There's an easy way around the TV ads. Do I what I do. Stop watching TV. there's no programming that's worth a damn anyway.

Adult Swim +The Triple H Show=I watch tv

Blech. I hate just about everything about Adult Swim. As far as "The Triple H Show"..... what the hell is it? Is it about wrestling? Because, as far as I'm concerned, pro-wrestling is the lowest of the low when it comes to shit programming.

[hu6800]

FF X-2 is for girls. There, I said it..


I second that........ but then again ive seen girls play a mean game of
street fighter zero 2 and darkstalkers.

Square just went retarded.
that FFX2 is some fucked up "mall goth" game.

[hezeuschrist]

Square just went retarded.
that FFX2 is some fucked up "mall goth" game.

I've got witty asshole sarcasm for everything, but you just stumped me.

I can't even think after reading that.

"If it weren't for my horse, if it weren't for my horse..." *head explodes*

...

Bonus points to whoever gets that referance.

[SoulBlazer]

I guess that explains why I never see ANY video game commercials almost. The only cable channels I watch are ESPN and TNT, with a little Spike TV and Court TV thrown in on the side. The networks sure don't show them anymore, unless I have'nt been watching at the right times. :)

[Sauza12]

The song is very annoying, but I don't think that is the game is that bad so far.

Oh yeah, and that reference is from one of Lewis Blacks stand up specials.
Woo Hoo! Bonus point for me! Here I come victory lane!

[Sanriostar]

"If it weren't for my horse, if it weren't for my horse..." *head explodes*

...

Bonus points to whoever gets that referance.

That would be Lewis Black, the angriest comedian out there.

"I have seen the end of civilization, and it's in Houston, Texas..."

[hezeuschrist]

Bonus points to the both of you.... I'll remember that when your time comes ;)


I guess that explains why I never see ANY video game commercials almost. The only cable channels I watch are ESPN and TNT, with a little Spike TV and Court TV thrown in on the side. The networks sure don't show them anymore, unless I have'nt been watching at the right times. :)

I watch Comedy Central pretty exclusively, and I'm about ready to explode. It was way outta hand to begin with, but they just wont end.

[Gamereviewgod]

Spike TV is the one that prompted me to vent. EVERY COMMERCIAL BREAK I got an ad Monday Night during RAW. Worse yet, FFX-2 was the sponsor for one of their PPV's a month or two ago. That's what started to set me off.

[Sotenga]

An overload of advertisements also turned me off to MTV2. Well, that, and the lack of good music. Waiting to listen to BS... that's not right. :angry:

[YoshiM]

Spike TV is the one that prompted me to vent. EVERY COMMERCIAL BREAK I got an ad Monday Night during RAW. Worse yet, FFX-2 was the sponsor for one of their PPV's a month or two ago. That's what started to set me off.

Spike TV is the worst culprit of ad saturation ever. I know that "whatever happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas." unless CSI is on the case. I also know that I should poor beer into a foam finger before a sporting event so I don't have to pay $7.50 at the beer tents (as it's "good finger").

[SoulBlazer]

Well, the only thing I watch on Spike TV's are TNG's, and then only once in a while (shrug). And I have'nt seen a video game comercial in months. Go figure.

Now I WANT to see this ad to see what everyone is complaing about.....

Bottom line: FF X-2 was a effort by Square to bring a RPG to women and also draw in die hard FF fans (like myself). And hope they enjoy it anyway (again, like myself). :D

[Nick Goracke]

Now I WANT to see this ad to see what everyone is complaing about.....


It's the song sung by the girl impersonating Yuna at the beginning... some CG, some gameplay footage...

I don't like the song myself, so if I watched anything other than NFL Football, Survivor, and ESPN every once in a while I'd get pretty sick of it too.

Anyways, as for the game... I find that most of the people hacking on it never played it (or it's predecessor). No surprise there. It's not nearly as good as X (what is?), but it's "fun". Probably doesn't hurt that it's been such a slow year for RPGs...

[Raedon]

Little off topic, sense I didn't care for the game after 20 hours.

The Japanese intro for FF X-2 is completely different then the US version.

When I got a image of the JAP version I couldn't play for more then 5 minutes without loosing what menu did what so I don't know if anything else was different..

Who knows.. Maybe the JAP version was better and Square-Enix US just blew it off for quick money.

This also makes me wonder why they are even called the same game? I mean, if the intro FMV is completely different then the US then it IS NOT the same game and that is blindingly obvious right off the bat.

[Jorpho]

The last FF commercial I saw was for Crystal Chronicles, which managed to make it in before Lord of the Rings. That sort of thing might have looked impressive once, but now footage blown up on a giant screen like that just looks kind of ugly.

Prior to that, I remember the commercials for FF7, which were subdued and seemed to suggest that the product was a movie instead of a game.

I guess I just don't watch much TV.

[calthaer]

hmm...I've never seen any of those commercials. I watch Spike TV from time to time, but only for the A-Team...and that's the only TV I ever watch - an hour every 3 weeks, maybe. TV does rather suck.

[buttasuperb]

Worst commercial ever.

I never intended to buy that game, but if I did and I saw the commercial before I bought it, I wouldn't have bought it. It's that bad.

And for the TV haters, there's plenty of good television, it's called sports. If you don't like sports, you are a woman.

[WiseSalesman]

Anyways, as for the game... I find that most of the people hacking on it never played it (or it's predecessor). No surprise there. It's not nearly as good as X (what is?), but it's "fun". Probably doesn't hurt that it's been such a slow year for RPGs...

I'm halfway through X. I'll grant you I hadn't played it before, I hadn't had time. That does NOT make the gameplay or atmosphere in FFX-2 any less crappy.

As for SoulBlazer's comment about die hard Final Fantasy fans....I own every Final Fantasy game released state-side, and I'm only missing one or two of every SQUARE game released state side. I've also played through a few of their import offerings through the magic of emulation. I've been a fan of the Final Fantasy series since the NES days. If square could pull ANYONE in based on fanboyism alone, it should have been me, but they failed.

[WiseSalesman]

And for the TV haters, there's plenty of good television, it's called sports. If you don't like sports, you are a woman.

If you like sports, you're an idiot.

[buttasuperb]

If you like sports, you're an idiot.

Care to explain why?

Or did you run out of maxi pads?

Sucks that this thread is gonna get locked. LOL

[Duncan]

And for the TV haters, there's plenty of good television, it's called sports. If you don't like sports, you are a woman.

If you like sports, you're an idiot.

Is not video gaming a "sport" of sorts? :hmm:

Methinks you've got some pent-up anger. Lighten up, and watch some football.

[SoulBlazer]

Oh, God...... :roll:

This may be the first time I WANT DP to lock a thread! LOL

[Duncan]

If you like sports, you're an idiot.

Care to explain why?

Or did you run out of maxi pads?

Kinda what I was thinking. :)

Seriously, what brought that on? Sports have been a part of society, since, oh, ever.

And this was such a good discussion, too...

[WiseSalesman]

Seriously, what brought that on? Sports have been a part of society, since, oh, ever.

And this was such a good discussion, too...

Jesus CHRIST.

He calls people who don't like sports women, and that's fine, but I retort, and I have "pent up anger"? Fuck that. I was just trying to respond to his comment to stick up for those of us that don't find sports to be entertaining (personally, football especially puts me to sleep). I don't exactly see in what way I ruined what was "such a good discussion". If you're that offended by my statement, maybe your jock straps riding a bit too tight?

If the thread gets locked, I'll most likely get blamed, and I'm sorry. But I want people to remember that I was not the one who threw the first punch.

[SFCfan]

:shameful:WHAT IS YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM? RETARDS: WATCH LESS TV AND FUCKING TRY TO ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME!!!
Duncan wrote:


buttasuperb wrote:

WiseSalesman wrote:
If you like sports, you're an idiot.

Care to explain why?

Or did you run out of maxi pads?

Kinda what I was thinking.

Seriously, what brought that on? Sports have been a part of society, since, oh, ever.

And this was such a good discussion, too...

JOCKS AND MALE CHAUVANISTS: YOU ARE THE PEOPLE I FUCKING HATE THE MOST. I DONT LIKE STUPID FUCKING BORING SPORTS AND I AM A GUY! YOU FUCKING MAKE ME SICK YOU FUCKING NAZIS! DON'T RUB OFF YOUR SUPPORT FOR HITLER ON US!

WISESALESMAN: It's not your fault, especially not now. AND I AM FUCKING PROUD OF IT, THOSE DAMN SKINHEADS!!!
Goodbye, Retrogaming Roundtable!

[Raedon]

I used to play Tennis.. yea..


..


*walks away from thread*

[buttasuperb]

Jesus CHRIST.

He calls people who don't like sports women, and that's fine, but I retort, and I have "pent up anger"? Fuck that. I was just trying to respond to his comment to stick up for those of us that don't find sports to be entertaining (personally, football especially puts me to sleep). I don't exactly see in what way I ruined what was "such a good discussion". If you're that offended by my statement, maybe your jock straps riding a bit too tight?

If the thread gets locked, I'll most likely get blamed, and I'm sorry. But I want people to remember that I was not the one who threw the first punch.

I'm not really sure why others jumped on ya, maybe they missed my comment. Anyways don't be offended by it, I'm an asshole, that's just the way I am. :)

And SFCfan, you forget to take your meds today?

[Achika]

lots of nauty words

You might want to clean up your attitude a little bit before posting again. None of that was called for. And Hitler? W-T-F?

Some of us have played the game, and still don't particularly care for it.

[punkoffgirl]

Uh, wow. I'm calling in reinforcements.

[Queen Of The Felines]

Cavalry arrived.

Godwin's law broken in three, two one...

>>CLANK<<

Kristine