What is this SNES game?

[goatdan]

I picked up this SNES game a while ago. It is, according to the graphic on the cartridge, "Dragon Ball Z 2"

http://www.midwestgamingclassic.com/snes.jpg

The sticker looks legit. The label says that this is US release. I can't find it anywhere... on eBay, on the DP online guide, anywhere...

This game was released in Japan, apparently. Here is a link to the game as a Super Famicon game:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3071535812&category=27230

Any ideas? The end-label is completetly blank, and the back-side label is different than the "normal" SNES releases, but only in color.

[Red Warrior]

That's incredibly strange... :eek 2:

It certainly looks like a US cart, but I didn't think it was released over here. Do any other countries have SNES games shaped like that? As far as I knew, only US carts had that shape.

[goatdan]

I got it because it was relatively cheap and I thought the Dragon Ball SNES games were really rare. Got it home and found out it was the PSX games that were supposedly so rare, and I can't find anything about this one...

In the next few days, I'm going to have to start some more "WTF is this?" threads, as I've got two weird systems (SNES and Geni I believe are development systems, but don't "match the criteria"), some blue-cased NES games that seem to be a mix of Japanese and English, but made on standard boards and some other oddities. Personally, after having collected stuff like this for a while, I'm completely baffled by a whole bunch of stuff I've ended up with....

[hydr0x]

pls give us high-res scans of front and back and if possible open the cart and make a pic of the inside....

[DDCecil]

It's fake. I'm pretty sure there would be a company logo on it (in this case Bandai) somewhere on it...

[goatdan]

You're right that there is no company logo on it. That is one thing that I thought was strange. Also, the SNS-TN-USA thing that appears above the "Made In Japan" seems to be a non-standard font, and the red line on the right hand side above the SNES logo is too low and not wide enough.

If you're implying that I faked it however, I can honestly say that I have better things to do than to sit around and play with the graphics of SNES games in photoshop.

If you're saying it's a fake by someone else, I can't deny that but where did it come from and did they seriously only make one?

[AB Positive]

to borrow from the Neo Glossary, it looks like a conversion. Since SFC and SNES run off the same boards, all that needs to be done is to sacrifice a common cart for a US casing, open it, pop the pcb from the japanese game in the US case, close it up, and make a snazzy new label. Voila, an incredibly long way to go around making a SFC game work in a SNES.

-AG

[TheRedEye]

Is the in-game text in Spanish?

[hydr0x]

Is the in-game text in Spanish?

why spanish? also guessing that is is an mexican release like ISS (Deluxe) ??

[gamergary]

If the in-game text is in spainish wouldn't the label be in spainish too?

[NintendoMan]

Yeah, there is no company logo on it, it could be spanish. This game wasn't released in the US, at least I don't think so.

[Doonzmore]

Its a pirate, there were no DBZ games released in the US, theres also a DBZ Final Bout and ranma 1/2 one as well. And don't forget about the Sonic 4 cart.

[anagrama]

It's fake


It's a pirate

Why is it, that as soon as any previously undocumented game or hardware is uncovered, there's always a few people who will rush to pass judgement and declare something a pirate/clone/fake before all details are known about it?
Do you have some kind of inside knowledge? Worked for Nintendo? Have you owned/played the item in question? Probably not, but you're happy to judge it based on one indistinct photo?

*note* I'm not saying this cart is legit [it may well not be], but surely it would make more sense to wait for further information/clearer photos, so that an informed judgement can be made?

(Weren't there people declaring that a North American SNES ISS or ISS Deluxe doesn't exist just a couple of months ago? Or that customized Gamecube that was on eBay UK recently? Or even the [well-documented] Master System Girl that someone declared a 'pirate' in a recent thread?)

Please, DP is one of the leading authorities on videogame stuff. Let us be sensible and rational and not jump to conclusions. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.... [/rant]

[DDCecil]

I've seen a box before that was the same game at Yahoo.com's auction site (not to mention many other DBZ SNES games, especially multicarts), and it said Super Nintend (no "o") on the box, and once again, no company logo. Plus SNS-TN-USA is the serial number for the Terminator game.

[badinsults]

It is a mexican pirate. I saw a whole bunch of these carts on ebay a couple of summers back.


http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/Pirates/pirates/Pirate-DBZ2/index.html

[dave2236]

I'm 95% sure its a manufactured pirate, I have one .

I'll try to find it but its a cheaply made game and my copy only worked three times adn then something fried, because it doesn't boot up .

I also have a sonic 4 which is a homebrew, I bought 12 of them from the guy that made them a couple years ago. Sonic 4 is in a reproduction (cheap) case that has no screws adn is molded into 1 piece.....(very cool game)

[anagrama]

Meh, OK then... *shuffles away quietly*

[Querjek]

Dave, if you ever want to get rid of one of those SOnic 4's, drop me a line.

And I didn't say anything before, but this is a pirate. I'm not completely right on this, but a majority, if not all, of the DBZ SFC games weren't released outside of Japan... well, except for those that were released in Europe.

[dave2236]

Dave, if you ever want to get rid of one of those SOnic 4's, drop me a line.

And I didn't say anything before, but this is a pirate. I'm not completely right on this, but a majority, if not all, of the DBZ SFC games weren't released outside of Japan... well, except for those that were released in Europe.

WOOPS, should have said I sold all but 1....I'll see if I can dig up his email address again and if he has any.

[Packerfan66]

Ha ha you go fooled! LOL

[cr0n0]

I don't know if this helps, but I do remember reading a preview (not a review) of a dragonball Z game for the SNES back in an old EGM magazine. I had the damn magazine too, but threw them (about 70 issues, do not e-mail me calling me crazy please...) away a while back. I am SURE though about the game and the review. If I remember correctly, the editors said that the game was US bound, but weren't sure exactly when. The graphics looked like the ones from the GBA one ( looks like street fighter).

[Querjek]

I don't know if this helps, but I do remember reading a preview (not a review) of a dragonball Z game for the SNES back in an old EGM magazine. I had the damn magazine too, but threw them (about 70 issues, do not e-mail me calling me crazy please...) away a while back. I am SURE though about the game and the review. If I remember correctly, the editors said that the game was US bound, but weren't sure exactly when. The graphics looked like the ones from the GBA one ( looks like street fighter).Don't worry, I accidentally threw away like 50 old EGMs (Not THAT old... like '95-'98) when I was younger "because I needed space." It hurts to talk about it.

And, dave, that would be great. It's no big deal if you can't find it, but I've been trying to secure a copy of that ever since I saw an eBay auction for one, saying that it was a version of Sonic only released in Russia (I think... don't remember specific country) but Sega disembowed all knowledge of it.

Oh, and Dan, I hope you didn't pay a lot for that DBZ cart!

[Ichi The Killer]

I have one of those DBZ carts too. It will play on a US SNES, but I beleive the text is in Japanese. It seems to work fine. Its a nice find for DBZ fans who don't have an adaptor...

[§ Gideon §]

I had the damn magazine too, but threw them (about 70 issues, do not e-mail me calling me crazy please...) away a while back.

Don't worry, I accidentally threw away like 50 old EGMs (Not THAT old... like '95-'98) when I was younger "because I needed space." It hurts to talk about it.
Well... Did you recycle them?

Oh, and where'd you find the game, goatdan? I ask because you say that it was "picked up", so it doesn't sound like eBay, which is the usual source for pirate games.

[goatdan]

Oh, and where'd you find the game, goatdan? I ask because you say that it was "picked up", so it doesn't sound like eBay, which is the usual source for pirate games.

Found at a GameStop, paid about $25.00 for it (it was mislabeled, BTW). I don't know if I'll keep it or sell it or what. I really don't have much of a use for it, but I did bring home my SNES today to try it out (It had been dwelling at my parents house). I'll try to take pictures of it "in action" tomorrow.

Thanks for the info everyone. I'll have to start a new "WTF is this?!?" thread soon with some of my other messed up gaming finds :)

[Predatorxs]

It is a fake i'v seen alot of these in the last few years, everything about it is wrong the lable pic isn't the right size the snes standard (grey lined logo on the right) is in the wrong place Dragon ball never got a US release on the snes, also the red bar at the top of the label on the right side is in the wrong place.

If you can just open it up and see what the board is like, i'm certain it will be a poor quality PCB that won't have any hint of nintendo or any other company name on it..

Someone mentioned that why do people jump on stuff like this and say there a pirate/clone/fake, it's not that people are trying to discredit anyone or any item, if it's not in the DP guide and nobody ever heard of it, it can't be official there would be promo material, also why do these carts never have a box or instructions!??

I think most if not everyone here would love for this game to be genuine but it's not, ;)

In fact i'v just changed my first thought! it's not a fake it's a pirate, probably a jap rom..

Don't talk about Snes ISS, that is alittle holy grail to me! i'v taked to people in konami europe, they said no never released in the US or Canada or mexico then i find a review of the game and konami saying it was released in Mexico instead of POP n Twin Bee..

Dame fools, both those kick ass games should have both got a US release i think america would have gone nuts for Pop n Twin bee!!!!!! Crazy!!

PS. (DB Pirate) it's still an item to hang on too, if your a snes collector, i have a few pirate jap carts! i don't really care for them, but i'm a huge snes collector and have a ton of stuff, so i keep them, i'm nearing the end of my snes (American) collection, but i'm slowing down on what i buy to make it last longer! :P

I don't think U.S SNES collecting (for me) will ever come to an end!!! LOL

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