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ApolloBoy
01-27-2004, 07:18 PM
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/zathras_eleven/

Look at his TOS and feedback. I'm surprised he hasn't been NARU'ed yet. O_O

number6
01-27-2004, 07:26 PM
He is very abusive in his feedback so I would definitely not buy from him. The Terms of Service seem very strict also, but I think they are all within the rules on ebay.

Darth Sensei
01-27-2004, 07:31 PM
I seem to remember seeing a thread about this guy before.

D

ApolloBoy
01-27-2004, 07:32 PM
He is very abusive in his feedback so I would definitely not buy from him. The Terms of Service seem very strict also, but I think they are all within the rules on ebay.

Well, it's not just that. Whenever a buyer leaves positive feedback to him, and if the feedback mentions the shipping time (like saying "fast shipping", which is of course praise), he gets in a fit and leaves negative feedback, saying the item was shipped on-time, and that the bidder didn't "honor their bid". I don't call that "within the rules"...

ApolloBoy
01-27-2004, 07:33 PM
I seem to remember seeing a thread about this guy before.

D

Link please...

Darth Vader
01-27-2004, 07:36 PM
I dealt with this guy back in the day that yahoo auctions were free (that was when they actually had good items listed on their site) and had no problems with this seller. Although his TOS are long, at least he is being up front with his policies. If he had something I wanted, I would still bid on it.

Danny

Achika
01-27-2004, 08:10 PM
Catsy20 is the one who brought it to our attention here, but the actual thread is at AA:

http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=41570

Griking
01-27-2004, 09:14 PM
I honestly don't see anything wrong with his terms. I also don't see anything that would keep me from bidding on something of his if I saw something that I wanted.

Lady Jaye
01-27-2004, 09:53 PM
As discussed before in here, at Atari Age and at CGCC.ca, look not just at the feedback he received but also at the feedback he left for others. Any slight deviation from his TOS earns the other person a negative, even if the rest of the transaction went fine (ie. payment was sent and the product received by the buyer).

For this reason alone, there's no way in hell I'd bit on his stuff.

Kejoriv
01-27-2004, 10:06 PM
i wouldnt buy from that guy either

jonjandran
01-28-2004, 09:45 AM
This guy is a total fruitcake. Just for fun I emailed him this :

To member: zathras_eleven
From member: junk-b-gone

I was just reading your About me page . You state that Priority mail is just 1st class mail that weighs 13.1 ounces or more and is handled 2-3 days the same as 1st class.
This is totally untrue. . Priority is 2-3 days and can weigh ANY amount. And first class is NOT 2-3 days and rarely arrives quicker than 5 days.
Very misleading information on your page, in fact very dishonest. You should update it.

And his reply :

member: zathras_eleven:

What I state, sir, it TOTALLY true. First Class mail
automatically becomes Priority Mail[sic] at 13.1
ounces. It is treated NO differently. It is an
advertising gimmick, dreamed up several years ago
so that the Post Office could compete with UPS and FedEx. We
both know this to be true. Even the employees at
the two branches I mail at sheepishly admit it,
albeit under their breaths for fear of being heard
by a supervisor. I've been selling on-line for
over 10 years now, and the packages DO arrive at
the same time, sent either way. There is NO need
to pay the extra amount if the item is light just
so a USPS employee can slap a sticker on it and
charge my customer a higher fee! FOR NOTHING EXTRA!

And I NEVER said you couldn't mail a 1 ounce package P.M.
Did I? NO! But what the hell sense would that make!
It will NOT get there any quicker. It just adds more
funds to the USPS coffers so they can rent out Grand
Central Station, AGAIN, for a birthday party. Geez!

What you have said is the same tired old PROPAGANDA
that the USPS has been feeding the US public since
it introduced Priority Mail[sic]. It was BRIEFLY
guaranteed, but is no longer and we both know that.
It "TAKES" 2-3 days, they say. IT IS NOT GUARANTEED!
In fact, it has not been for quite some time. It
is YOU who are dishonest, and you who lie to the US
public EVERY day. Shame on you, sir. Shame on you!


Regards,

Z

P.S. E-mail added to filter. BYE!


What a Complete NutJob !!!!!!
I bet the government is after him because he knows about the UFO's to. LOL

Darth Sensei
01-28-2004, 09:52 AM
Question for the mods, is there any way I can block all of jonjandran's posts?

I'm very angry with him for lying "to the US public EVERY day." :roll: LOL

D

SoulBlazer
01-28-2004, 11:23 AM
Oh boy, nutcake is right...... :roll:

So I supose I should'nt believe my close uncle who works for the post office for 25 years that Priorty and First Class are VERY different?

Or that the USPS has been LOSING money for years?

Or that any ditwit could check public records to see that Grand Central Station has never been rented by the USPS?

I could go on, but I would'nt buy ANYTHING from this guy.

I'm tempted to e-mail him so he can know about these threads and see what a ass he looks like. LOL

Sauza12
01-28-2004, 11:36 AM
He actually posted a reply in the Atari Age forums, so I think it's safe to say that he knows he's not liked by the classic gaming community right now. I give it a year before this guy is living in a cabin in some forest and sending manifesto's to major newspapers. ;)

captain nintendo
01-28-2004, 11:37 AM
Even though his positive feed back % is at 95% I would never buy from him. Like stated before if you deviate just a little from his plan he leaves a negative feedback :roll: So I guess in his real life he is always perfect? What a whack job. I bet he is a person who has to look over his shoulder when he is walking down the street.

Buyatari
01-28-2004, 11:43 AM
This guy is located in Cleveland. Yet I don't know of him having a store and I make it my business to know these things.

So its funny how he charges sales tax on his purchases.

SoulBlazer
01-28-2004, 11:55 AM
You have to have a valid licence to charge sales tax, correct?

Hum, maybe we can have someone e-mail him and ask for a copy of his licence..... LOL

I've already sent my e-mail asking him why he has a waiting period on PayPal when PayPal CAN do a chargeback even if there's no money in the account (which is the reason I assume he does this, but he's wrong -- I've had it happen once to me) and asked if I could have a item shiped by Priorty if I paid extra.

I'll post his response if one comes in. ;)

BTW, techinacly, I think almost ANYONE is required to charge for sales tax but there's no way of enforcing it unless you file taxes as a business.

EDIT: I just realized maybe I should fix something. If a buyer disputes a item with PayPal and PayPal rules in the buyer's favor, they will take the money out of your account. What if you don't HAVE any money, you ask? Then they take it from the bank account that the account is linked to. And if THAT fails? They suspend the account until you pay. So even this sellers tactic of trying to avoid chargebacks is'nt going to work. I guess no one has tried one yet. LOL

punkoffgirl
01-28-2004, 04:45 PM
This guy is located in Cleveland. Yet I don't know of him having a store and I make it my business to know these things.

So its funny how he charges sales tax on his purchases.

On all of his purchases?
I know you don't have to have a physical store to charge sales tax for internet sales, but you can't charge it to people out of state. They're SUPPOSED to pay the sales tax in their own state *nudge, nudge, wink, wink* Not that anyone does.

Lady Jaye
01-28-2004, 05:14 PM
Well, according to one of his auctions, it's only for purchases made by people in Ohio (ie. not charging out-of-state people). But whether he sticks to this or not, I dunno.

ebay gremlin
02-01-2004, 01:50 PM
That guy is a true negative (feedback) vibe merchant. If you’ve ever wondered what Red from the Tube Bar would be like as an Ebay seller, look no further than Zathras.

<ebay gremlin> Hello sir. I am contemplating on placing bids on a few items you have for auction. My question is, I always pay with a money order (from the United States Post Office).

Now, you mention on your auction page that items purchased with a Western Union money order are "mailed when M.O. received!" but then you say there's a 5-day waiting period for money orders. I don't understand why there should be any waiting period, since any bank will cash a money order w/o any wait. Perchance this is a typo or oversight in your description, but hopefully you can clarify this for me. Thank you for your reply in advance.

<zathras_eleven> The difference, sir, is that Western Union does security checks on money orders purchased through their Western Union Auction

Payments web site before they okay it and mail it to me, and
other money order companies do not. If a WUMO is later found
to have been purchased with, say, an unauthorized or stolen CC,
then WU does not take the money back from me. They eat the loss.
That is the difference. Again, only cash is cash. All other forms
of payment must clear. Thank you for your interest in my item.

Regards,
Z

--
"Cannot say. Saying, I would know. Do not
know, so cannot say." -- Zathras (Babylon 5)


<ebay gremlin> Well, Z, I happen to know a little about such matters, as my wife works for a bank. Money orders (any kind) are cashed immediately since they are, in fact, as good as cash. This is because money orders can only be purchased with MONEY. You can't buy a money order with a credit card. What would be the point of this, since you can just purchase what you want with a credit card to begin with! Besides, as a seller, someone purchasing an item from you with a stolen credit card would have no financial burden on you. If the owner of the card reported it lost or stolen, neither they nor you would be responsible for anything charged to it. So as you can see, your terms of waiting for a money order to be cashed are not valid. Please rescind, correct, or otherwise admit your lunacy in regards to this and I will then proceed to bid happily.

<zathras_eleven>There is a lunatic in the conversation, and you see him in the mirror when you shave (hint: it ain't me).

Cash is cash. A money order is NOT cash. A personal check is
NOT cash. A cashier's check is NOT cash. PayPal is NOT cash!

Money orders, sir, can be FAKED. And they CAN be purchased with
a credit card, at Western Union Auction Payments on-line! And
God bless them, WU has security measures and guarantees that
a bad one won't stick me. They eat it if it gets through.

As for your assertion that nobody gets stuck with a bad CC
purchase: WRONG AGAIN! I had a PayPal CC chargeback and I
have proof they got the item. I am out the item and the
money. You are something of an idiot.

I don't want your business. I don't need money bad enough
to put up with your crap. And you can't bid. I blocked
you after your last e-mail. I just forgot to block your
e-mail address. Done now. BYE!

<ebay gremlin>
What's the Z for, Zany??

>There is a lunatic in the conversation, and you see him in the
>mirror when you shave (hint: it ain't me).

You're mother, perhaps then?

>Cash is cash. A money order is NOT cash. A personal check is
>NOT cash. A cashier's check is NOT cash. PayPal is NOT cash!

They are as good as cash you DOLT! Don't tell me they're not because they are. Banks consider them as such, and so will you, "Z".

>Money orders, sir, can be FAKED. And they CAN be purchased with
>a credit card, at Western Union Auction Payments on-line! And
>God bless them, WU has security measures and guarantees that
>a bad one won't stick me. They eat it if it gets through.

So do credit card companies, as I just explained to you in my last email, you simpleton. Cash can be faked too, sir :)

>As for your assertion that nobody gets stuck with a bad CC
>purchase: WRONG AGAIN! I had a PayPal CC chargeback and I
>have proof they got the item. I am out the item and the
>money. You are something of an idiot.

And you are a jackass of a different color. First you talk about money orders being purchased with credit cards, now it's Paypal. Stick to the original subject, mongoloid. Money orders can only be purchased with CASH! Therefore, money orders are as good AS cash. You see now, you ignorant ignoramus?

>I don't want your business. I don't need money bad enough
>to put up with your crap. And you can't bid. I blocked
>you after your last e-mail.

As if I would ever dream of purchasing ANYTHING from you, after you've shown yourself to be quite possibly the biggest online imbecile on Ebay since........well, I can't of anyone who rivals your sheer stupidity, so that title is yours alone, sir Z!

>I just forgot to block your
>e-mail address. Done now. BYE!

I'm not quite done with you, you nincompoop, so stick that block in that big fat dumb donkey mouth of yours.

>"Cannot say. Saying, I would know. Do not
>know, so cannot say." -- Zathras (Babylon 5)

You belong on Babylon 5, or at least some planet other than Earth. I humbly suggest that you leave today!

Hugs & kisses,

eg

SoulBlazer
02-01-2004, 04:01 PM
Well, he never responded to my questions, so maybe you won't get a reponse either. He does'nt like to be called on anything. :)

16-bit
02-01-2004, 04:53 PM
That guy is a true negative (feedback) vibe merchant. If you’ve ever wondered what Red from the Tube Bar would be like as an Ebay seller, look no further than Zathras.

<ebay gremlin> Hello sir. I am contemplating on placing bids on a few items you have for auction. My question is, I always pay with a money order (from the United States Post Office).

Now, you mention on your auction page that items purchased with a Western Union money order are "mailed when M.O. received!" but then you say there's a 5-day waiting period for money orders. I don't understand why there should be any waiting period, since any bank will cash a money order w/o any wait. Perchance this is a typo or oversight in your description, but hopefully you can clarify this for me. Thank you for your reply in advance.

<zathras_eleven> The difference, sir, is that Western Union does security checks on money orders purchased through their Western Union Auction

Payments web site before they okay it and mail it to me, and
other money order companies do not. If a WUMO is later found
to have been purchased with, say, an unauthorized or stolen CC,
then WU does not take the money back from me. They eat the loss.
That is the difference. Again, only cash is cash. All other forms
of payment must clear. Thank you for your interest in my item.

Regards,
Z

--
"Cannot say. Saying, I would know. Do not
know, so cannot say." -- Zathras (Babylon 5)


<ebay gremlin> Well, Z, I happen to know a little about such matters, as my wife works for a bank. Money orders (any kind) are cashed immediately since they are, in fact, as good as cash. This is because money orders can only be purchased with MONEY. You can't buy a money order with a credit card. What would be the point of this, since you can just purchase what you want with a credit card to begin with! Besides, as a seller, someone purchasing an item from you with a stolen credit card would have no financial burden on you. If the owner of the card reported it lost or stolen, neither they nor you would be responsible for anything charged to it. So as you can see, your terms of waiting for a money order to be cashed are not valid. Please rescind, correct, or otherwise admit your lunacy in regards to this and I will then proceed to bid happily.


Stay tuned folks, this one's gonna be interesting :evil:

Every bank is different. Money Orders must clear at my bank and it usually takes a few days. Postal money orders can be cashed at the usps post office, but first they much check a book to see that the money order was not reported lost or stolen.

Cmosfm
02-01-2004, 05:26 PM
Wow...he's a total nutcase. It's like he's blatantly bitter with everyone on eBay. People lie.....I have 404 feedback and not once has someone blatantly lied on the feedback. What a moron...I gotta think of something to call him on for the hell of it.

Gotta love messing with these people.

Lady Jaye
02-01-2004, 05:59 PM
Here's a recent example of the nutiness of that seller:


<negative feedback from buyer Podusan>: Received item quickly but seller mistakenly left neg. feedback. Did not respond

Reply by zathras_eleven: No mistake! Many e-mails/NO replies! Please grow up & honor your bids! BEWARE!

And the flip side... Zathras' neg feedback mentioned above:


Multiple e-mails sent with no replies. Refuses to finish deal. Beware!

Reply by podusan: Paypal payment was sent 10/24/03 and I received the item. This is an error.

Follow-up by zathras_eleven: No mistake! Many e-mails/NO replies! Please grow up & honor your bids! BEWARE!

WTF??? That's exactly the problem I have with this guy. It's a wonder his neg. ratio isn't higher (he probably waits for feedback to be left by the buyer first...)

Griking
02-01-2004, 08:17 PM
I've already sent my e-mail asking him why he has a waiting period on PayPal when PayPal CAN do a chargeback even if there's no money in the account (which is the reason I assume he does this, but he's wrong -- I've had it happen once to me) and asked if I could have a item shiped by Priorty if I paid extra.

Actually I've had Paypal tell me the exact oposite before. I had a seller who never deliver a product that I paid for with Paypal. After an investigation Paypal decided that the seller was at fault but told me that they couldn't refund my money because the seller had removed all funds from the bank account and credit cards associated with his Paypal account. Buyer protection my ass. Paypal protects one person and one person only and that's themself.

jonjandran
02-01-2004, 08:22 PM
Actually I've had Paypal tell me the exact oposite before. I had a seller who never deliver a product that I paid for with Paypal. After an investigation Paypal decided that the seller was at fault but told me that they couldn't refund my money because the seller had removed all funds from the bank account and credit cards associated with his Paypal account. Buyer protection my ass. Paypal protects one person and one person only and that's themself.

Same here. I've had to do chargebacks 3 times. All 3 times they said the seller was at fault but they couldn't recover the funds.

Suprisingly on 2 of those after a month or two they refunded the money because they said they were able to recover the funds.

I'm guessing the people tried to sell something else and used the same account or Pay-Pal got them to pay with threats .

ebay gremlin
02-02-2004, 11:14 AM
He does'nt like to be called on anything. :)

Thanks for the tip. I made sure to call him everything :evil: I edited my first posting.

SegaAges
02-02-2004, 04:49 PM
wow, I am just messing around looking at this guy's older feedback. He seriously left somebody neg feedback for picking a slow shipping method:

Feedback given to <no need to mention the name>:
Item shipped on time! You selected SLOWEST method (USPS Media Mail). Cheapskate! Seller zathras_eleven

That was the neg feedback, and this is what the other guy left for zathras_eleven:

slow on mail Buyer jme7164( 3 )
Reply by zathras_eleven: Item mailed ON TIME! Try paying for quicker method instead of *SLOW* Media Mail!

People like this really amuse me. I have actually avoided people in the past that have left "retalition" feedbacks because they don't want people to think they are bad or something.

ebay gremlin
02-02-2004, 10:24 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21177&item=3075881679

<ebay gremlin> Is this the 2600 version or the 7800 version? Will this play on an Intellivision with an adapter?

<zathras_eleven> No offense, but please, read the auction (starting with the item header)...

<ebay gremlin> I did read your auction. There's 2 different versions of this game, one for the 2600 and one for the 7800. If it's only for the 7800 then I don't think it will work on an Intellivision (with an adapter). You don't mention if it will work on that. If it will, then great!

<zathras_eleven> LOL! No, you obviously did NOT read it. It is quite clear. Did you even look at the picture? Geez! I refuse to help someone who won't even attempt to help themselves. Please, don't bid! You have wasted enough of my time. GOOD LUCK!

<ebay gremlin> Gosh, then I guess I haven't wasted enough of your time. Since you refuse to answer my question, you’ll have to repost it again….and again….and again. Or you can be a man and answer the question, monkeyface. Someone with your notorious feedback record should be a little more helpful and a lot less salty, you old cracker.

ebay gremlin
02-03-2004, 09:58 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21177&item=3075883380

<ebay gremlin> Auction say you selling 2600 Atari cartridges but I only see 5. Where are the other 2595?!?!?!

<zathras_eleven> No, dim wit, it says "Lot of 5 Atari 2600 arcade game cartridges NR". In English that means FIVE ATARI 2600 games. It is a LOT of 5, as opposed to a LOT OF 2600.

<ebay gremlin> You call 5 a lot?!? That is nothing! I myself have at least TWICE as many as that!

<zathras_eleven> Not funny. You have WAY too much time on your hands. Stop wasting
mine!

P.S. E-mail added to filter. If I hear from you again, I'll report
you for misuse of eBay's ask seller feature! Might do it anyway...

<ebay gremlin> And if I get another smart-ass reply from you, I'll bid on one of your crappy auctions and give you a negative feedback just for the hell of it, like you seem to do with all your buyers. Might do it anyway...
Now THAT is funny.

Bratwurst
02-03-2004, 10:26 AM
See, now you're just trolling, Mr. Gremlin, but on the other hand, this Zathras guy gave me the impression of being an asshole right from the start. Just has those assy vibes rolling off his mystic body aura (odor).

Good job. :-P

SoulBlazer
02-03-2004, 04:20 PM
Well, I think he's like that to everyone. I asked a serious question the other day ago about why he holds payments for five days (defeating the whole purpose of PayPal) and also mentioned I have a uncle who has worked in the Post Office for 25 years and I KNOW how they ship things.

Let's just say he never answered my question and did'nt like my comment much. LOL

What a jerk. Let's hope no one buys anything from him. Better yet, I say we flame the SOB. ;)

Cmosfm
02-03-2004, 05:27 PM
I e-mailed him asking what system his GameBoy GBColor GBAdvance Frogger works for...gotta love ass hole harassment!

angusjake
04-19-2004, 12:48 AM
I've said it before but it bears repeating: Zathras (aka Michael J. Novak Jr.) is notorious - his basic modus operandi is legendary and has been well-identified above:
(1) he will never leave feedback first
(2) he extorts positive feedback, and
(3) he leaves LOTS of retalitory negatives for the slightest reason.

He does have some good stuff and he usually delivers the goods. The problem is he is a total anal-retentive sadistic control freak. People still bid because they see all the positives. I went back and examined the feedback and he is a real chickenshit - only leaves negs once the other has left feedback. Also, it is quite easy to see that he is a SEVERE retalitory feedback artist and Ebay should deal with this clown. This is his web site and in be sure to check out the laughable but psycho "Warning - people you may NOT want to deal with" page:
http://www.io.com/~vga2000/

ebay gremlin
05-17-2004, 09:28 AM
His website is gone, and I did not even get to see it.

Here are a few more zathras gems. Too bad he choose not to reply to them:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3075881483

<eg> is this a signed copy by grandpa munster? i'll only buy it if it is. comprende?

---

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3597565397

<ebay gremlin> Ronald Reagan? I LOVE that guy! How many hours total of him are there? We could sure use a president like him right now, what do you say? I bet it sounds like he is right there in the room with you! Sitting next to you, with his arm around you! Maybe even catching a brief whiff of his commanding cologne, as he leans in and whispers timeless wisdom in your ear, while he gently …, gently …, slips you a little tongue – presidential style of course. Which would cause anyone to immediately bolt upright from their chair, slap him right cross the cheek, and then drop your pants and show him the true meaning of the White House’s “blue room”. You would then snap your legs around his waist, like a pair of shears round a sickamore tree, as you prepared to ride this gallant horse of a man into the Washington sunset. I know you agree.

Xhorder
05-17-2004, 01:48 PM
He should change his name.This guy isn't worth a character's name from the best scifi show on tv: Babylon 5. Which isn't a planet, but a spacestation... :)

monantony
05-17-2004, 06:11 PM
I am amazed by this guy....
Especially this form of retalitory feedbackin' ->
OH well, to crazy to paste here,it was page 2 at 200/page. It was a he said she said thing, and i guess the reply qty was met, THEN he goes to the auctions before and after the disputed one to reply further yet to the guy he had a problem with. I've never seen anything like it. I go with the MD's diagnosis, spelling and all.
T

number6
05-17-2004, 08:17 PM
The most telling statistic about this insane seller is his negative feedback left ratio:

Negs left = 237
Total Feedback left (As of 17 May 2004) = 1165

Negative Feedback % of total fb left = 20%


So statistically I would say you have a 1 in 5 chance of getting a negative from this guy.

Jibbajaba
05-18-2004, 08:44 PM
It is OBVIOUS what this guy does. I have read every one of his negative feedbacks. "Honor your bids" and "Buyer refused to complete the deal" both mean that the buyer did not want to leave feedback. I do the same thing sometimes. Many sellers refuse to leave feedback until the buyer does so first. This is a tactic used to protect the seller from ever recieving negs. I have wated to leave negative feedback for sellers but knew that if I did, they would leave me negative feedback as revenge even though I lived up to my half of the deal. So this asshole has taken it a step further and not only refuses to leave feedback until the buyer does so first, but also leaves negative feedback if the buyer leaves no feedback. So his policy is basically this: "Leave me positive feeback or I will Neg you no matter what." The "ignored" e-mails that he refers to are his demands that the buyer leave him feedback.

I have never dealt with this guy, but like I said, I read all of his negative feedbacks and this is obviously what he is doing. I would NEVER buy from this guy.

captain nintendo
05-19-2004, 01:57 PM
Reading his feedback is pure comedy LOL

He seems very childish .... I understand non paying bidders and some people being jerks . But this guy will leave negative feedback for no reason at all :hmm:

People like this frustate me to no end :angry:

I love how he will use the feedback above and below a person sometimes to box them in with comments and bad feedback . What a jerk ! I would never bid on one of his items. NEVER !!!!!!!!!

leorange
05-19-2004, 02:52 PM
michael j. novak jr? you mean "the most dangerous man on rec.games.video.classic"?

;)

garethamiga
05-19-2004, 04:06 PM
That 24th Feb 04 sale takes some beating, where he got a neutral from arlenealexis, then to leave her three replies he had to go into two other people's comments!
LOL

The only way that I would bid on an item of his would be that if I absolutely could not find it anywhere else.

angusjake
06-02-2004, 03:16 AM
It is OBVIOUS what this guy does. I have read every one of his negative feedbacks. "Honor your bids" and "Buyer refused to complete the deal" both mean that the buyer did not want to leave feedback. I do the same thing sometimes. Many sellers refuse to leave feedback until the buyer does so first. This is a tactic used to protect the seller from ever recieving negs. I have wated to leave negative feedback for sellers but knew that if I did, they would leave me negative feedback as revenge even though I lived up to my half of the deal. So this asshole has taken it a step further and not only refuses to leave feedback until the buyer does so first, but also leaves negative feedback if the buyer leaves no feedback. So his policy is basically this: "Leave me positive feeback or I will Neg you no matter what." The "ignored" e-mails that he refers to are his demands that the buyer leave him feedback.

EXACTLY! That is his exact modus operandi - the trick is it is hard to tell what he is really doing unless you go through and read ALL the feedback as he still gets a good percentage of positives. The pathetic thing is how petty it all is - most of the buyers got their product but didn't bother to leave feedback. That is their prerogative, but not in the world of Zathras - he is childish and controlling in a very mean-spirited way. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

parhelion
06-03-2004, 01:40 AM
I just registered to the forum after reading this thread. My last eBay purchase was from this guy two weeks ago! I bought Midnight Mutants for the 7800 (new, sealed). It arrived while I was on vacation last week as described, and I was happy with the transaction. Believe it or not, he left positive feedback for me before I left it for him! Lately I've taken a wait and see approach on leaving feedback after getting no feedback or email responses from a loser who bought a $400 software package from me after I went out of my way to transfer the license for him. I also bought an Xbox light gun and House of the Dead 3, left positive feedback after a quick test, then found out later that night that the gun wouldn't calibrate properly, which he pretended to not understand. So I have a slight waiting period now; guess it worked to my advantage in this case.

After I won zathras 11's auction, I was somewhat alarmed by the automatic email he sends out, saying something like "don't yoshi me". It's something about him getting ripped off by a NPB, and it comes off as rather threatening, at first I thought he was accusing me of ripping him off. As I said, I got lucky I guess. I'm in the bad habit of not reading feedback or TOS info thoroughly on lower-ticket items.

Duncan
06-04-2004, 04:42 PM
My conception of eBay:

1) I see something I like up for auction and place a bid. If all goes well, my bid is highest and I win the item.
2) The seller recognizes my high bid, takes my money and sends me the item in return.

Zathras' conception of eBay:

1) I offer my incredible wares to the teeming masses of sub-humans, in the hopes that one or two might be interested in extending a dirty hand up to grasp at its beauty.
2) The masses begin to fight for the right to own my wares, with one well-evolved specimen eventually clawing his way to the top.
3) I agree to let the poor devil have my item - but in exchange, he must endure a rigorous series of rules and regulations designed to keep me and my reputation safe at all costs. (Can't have the rabble thinking I'm an easy mark, after all!)
4) Assuming that this cretin manages to do everything I say - and exactly how I say to do it - I just may send him one of my many prizes. Woe to the mongrel that doesn't follow my rules, for he will be marked out and chastised for the rest of his days!
5) I continue to sit atop my impenetrable ivory tower, carefully doling out trinkets among the unwashed. Ah, this life...

:roll:

Jibbajaba
06-04-2004, 04:59 PM
Well written, and so true...

angusjake
06-09-2004, 02:04 AM
After I won zathras 11's auction, I was somewhat alarmed by the automatic email he sends out, saying something like "don't yoshi me". It's something about him getting ripped off by a NPB, and it comes off as rather threatening, at first I thought he was accusing me of ripping him off.

Its a cryptic reference to an alleged non-payer, which is ridiculous to someone who wouldn't get it. From his old web site:


"On December 17, 2003, I received my first PayPal chargeback (ie, fraud).
Due to this, I can no longer accept Credit or Debit Card payments via
PayPal (bank account transfer or PayPal account balance transfer only
now, sorry). Item mailed on time, with USPS Delivery Confirmation
(# 0303 1290 0001 3160 3790 -- USPS web site confirms delivery via
Media Mail 7 days after I mailed), to his CONFIRMED PayPal address:

Yoshi Snider"

I offer a diagnosis of borderline personality disorder with narcissistic personality traits - whats your diagnosis?

Dreamscape
07-11-2004, 09:28 PM
I know this is kind of old, but i think i found an ebayer that Brinn would not defend. Mr. Zathras_eleven is even worse than Brinn when it comes to feed back, and is seems Brinn had some trouble with this guy a while back.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws1/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=zathras_eleven&items=200&page=2&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off

If Brinn still contacts every seller mentioned on this forum, he better not leave this guy out. LOL

Hep038
07-12-2004, 04:25 PM
Check the feed back Mr. Zathras_eleven and Brinn1 have tangled in the past and exchanged Negs. Its funny to see these two fight it out.

portnoyd
07-12-2004, 06:04 PM
Check the feed back Mr. Zathras_eleven and Brinn1 have tangled in the past and exchanged Negs. Its funny to see these two fight it out.

ROFL

Half Cab Leroy
07-12-2004, 07:16 PM
Check the feed back Mr. Zathras_eleven and Brinn1 have tangled in the past and exchanged Negs. Its funny to see these two fight it out. LOL LOL Classic