is this allowed?

[nesuser2]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3457556728

I won the auction and it says at the bottom that ebay fees are included in the S/H :hmm:

[Funk Buddy]

I don't know for sure, but it's damn stupid to put that in the listing.

Watch... it'll come in a plain envelope with a shipping cost of $2.50. If that's the case I'd shoot them a neutral, mentioning the crappy packaging.

Kind of off topic... but in Missouri, if you charge handling to an out of state customer you must collect sales tax. So if I just put shipping, not shipping and handling no tax has to be collected. :hmm:

[garethamiga]

Sure, he'll be overcharging you for postage, but at least he's telling you why.

I don't mind paying a bit more than the stamps cost as long as ithe item is packed well.

[jonjandran]

No it's not allowed , but then again Ebay won't do anything about it.

Also as long as you got the item for the price you wanted including shipping then really what does it matter. :hmm:

[nesuser2]

it's a pcmcia card reader and I'll have to check but i'm almost sure the envelop wasn't even padded. It may have been though, at any rate...I paid $7 for first class shipping. I'll give him some handling and supplies(envelops aren't free always) and i'll even add some in for a pickup charge since that is probably the route he goes. So I can still only hit $5 at the max. $2, $.5, and $1 for pickup......should I leave neutral....? :hmm:

[Cmosfm]

Well, not to be rude, but shipping IS listed. I've seen much worse...I think you have nothing to complain about if the shipping is listed before you bid to bid. The way you need to do is if you want to pay 20.00 for an item that has 5.00 shipping, then only bid 15.00....very simple. and it has gotten me through many many eBay transactions without a problem.

This situation isn't out of the ordinary. It's the same reason you pay more for an item at the mall than at the flea market. You have to charge more to cover expenses, and his expenses were about 1.50 - 2.00 for listing fees, then theres shipping itself, packaging, time, gas, etc. I don't know how much these sell for at the store, but if 24.90 is more than you wanted to pay after shipping then you should have bid elsewhere.

How much DO these sell for in the store?

EDIT: And no, don't leave neutral...if he shipped it on time and you got it promptly and undamaged he very well deserves a positive.

[nesuser2]

Well I didn't notice the part about his ebay fees. That's a crock...guess he shoulda charged more for the unit itself. As far as shipping........very cheesy. I'll take a look at the situation later and think it over. I'm not complaining.......I just don't think it's right. If he has to cover all this stuff......then charge more for the item. I never ask people to pay my fees. If it states in the auction that you have to pay somebodies paypal fees to get the item and you didn't read it.......it doesn't make it right.

[anagrama]

If it states in the auction that you have to pay somebodies paypal fees to get the item and you didn't read it.......it doesn't make it right.

No, it just means it's your fault for not reading the description properly.
By placing a bid, you agreed to the terms and conditions listed in the auction, and to leave neutral feedback would be out of order, since the seller seems to have fulfilled his side of the transaction entirely.
Next time, just don't bid on auctions with unnecessary additional fees. And read the desrpition thoroughly.

[Darth Sensei]

WE ARE EBAY

GOLD POWER SELLERS

:hmm: Is there such a thing?

D

[nesuser2]

There's every other flavor.......so I imagine. I'm some piddley one at the bottom. There's........titanium, gold, silver, bronze.......I forget them all. I'm pretty sure gold is up there.

[punkoffgirl]

If it states in the auction that you have to pay somebodies paypal fees to get the item and you didn't read it.......it doesn't make it right.

No, it just means it's your fault for not reading the description properly.
By placing a bid, you agreed to the terms and conditions listed in the auction, and to leave neutral feedback would be out of order, since the seller seems to have fulfilled his side of the transaction entirely.
Next time, just don't bid on auctions with unnecessary additional fees. And read the desrpition thoroughly.

I believe it's also against eBay policy for people to add more money to cover the fees.

[nesuser2]

Well if nothing less, he should remove it from his description because that's just stupid. People overcharge all the time on ebay for shipping but not too many are bright enough to jump up and say it. I'm still contimplating feedback. I was thinking a positive and contacting him about it and letting him know it's in violation...so he should atleast remove it from his auctions......

[Griking]

First of all, I'm not sure about ebay's policy but Paypal prohibits surcharges (https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_help&leafid=56542&answer_id=3662392) for all transactions outside of the U.K.

Second of all, I also agree that if the seller stated his shipping rate up front then you have no right to complain about it afterwards. No offense but pay attention to what you're agreeing to next time.

Thirdly, it seems that the popular opinion is that as long as the seller states his shipping fee up front then it's "let the buyer beware". How is this different from the heated discussion here recently about sellers who charge rediculous shipping rates (like $30 for a CD) yet clearly state them in their auction descriptions?

[nesuser2]

I don't remember complaining honestly. Anyways, I started this thread to get an idea of how I should handle the situation if I were to handle it at all. I'm not mad, I just don't think it's right that he puts it in the description. Not thinking something is right or fair is far from complaining. If I were complaining you would see some :angry: or :argue: or some other obvious signs of rage. And the last post I made clearly stated that I was pretty much planning on leaving positive feedback and also contacting the seller to explain to him that he should remove that from his auctions, whether he does it is one thing, addressing the public is another.

So, for the very last time.....I'm not complaining and we'll just leave this topic done. I'm going to leave positive feedback and I may or may not contact the seller to let him know that he should remove that bit of information from his listings.

For the record, I am complaing about everybody telling me I'm complaining :P

[punkoffgirl]

Shit, I KNOW it's there, why did eBay have to change it's way to report things?

This comes CLOSE, but it's not quite what I'm looking for..

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-surcharges.html

I believe it falls under "avoiding eBay fees", although they apparently don't come right out and say this anymore. It used to be on there, but I just can't find it now.