Nintari - anyone trying it?

[AB Positive]

It's pretty neat, and I like what they've done so far. There's some serious holes in their game lists but that's to be expected when they're trying to do so much at once. There's a link on the front page (how I found it) or if you're lazy:


www.nintari.net


Unfortunatly they only work with IE 5.0 and above, but they're working on other browsers as well.


-AG

[norkusa]

Ehhh, I already belong to GameTZ and I'm happy with them (have over 50 trades there). Maybe if Nintari was totally free (instead of just the first couple of months), I'd consider it.

[Max_Glink]

Hello,

I’m one of the people who are helping to build Nintari.net. I’m glad to hear that you like the site AdamG. We are working hard to roll things out as quickly as possible, and there is a lot more to come.

I just thought I’d make a couple comments to help answer any questions you might have:

I agree that our database has holes at this point. We have about 10,000 games but there are many older games that are not in the list. One way we have tried to deal with this is to make it possible to add games to the database. However, to do so you have to add the game through the My Collection section. Perhaps it’s not that obvious, and some changes are in order.

We are working hard to make the site cross compatible and to refine the user interface. We want it to be as simple and easy to use as possible.

If you have suggestions, questions, or comments please send them to feedback@nintari.net.

Cheers,
Max_Glink

[Max_Glink]

At this point we have no intention of ever charging for listing nor do we intend to charge to have your collection listed on the site. When the time comes that we do start charging, we intend to charge a service charge only on the sale of an item. The idea being that it would always be free to have your collection online and it would make it nice and easy to show off what you have.

For example, this is my profile on Nintari.net:

http://www.nintari.net/profile.php?user=Max_Glink&fcn=2#details

[Achika]

Am I the only one who though, oh! Willy Beamish! ? LOL

[Sniderman]

Am I the only one who though, oh! Willy Beamish! ? LOLDammit! Beat me to it! LOL

/owns a frog named "Horny."

[sisko]

Currently only IE5+ only.

*GAG* Let me know when good browsers can use the site. :)

[Max_Glink]

Will do. = ) We are working on it.

In fact, there is a lot of things we're working on. I think some sort of collection search might be useful..

Any suggestions on features?

[AB Positive]

I second the browsers, I prefer Opera/mozilla but I'm sure you're already working on at least mozilla

other features... well if possible, cross referencing the search to include 'barganing price' option, like "Search for Super Metroid and people pricing it at $20 or less/more" type of thing.


Also, if someone wants to make a trade attempt at any of my games, do they see the custom title? I would think using that as an extra descriptor would be nice. For instance:


Playstation games are good to know if they're longbox or jewelcase versions.


Neo Geo games (my main collection) has two forms, AES and MVS. Rather than make dual entries for every title, just let the user add "MVS version" as the custom title so that if people want to look at my US Metal Slug, they'll know it's MVS so as to not offer me a grand for it ;)


EDIT: also, later on having import categories would be nice. I've recently obtained a decent-sized Japanese Saturn collection but I can't really list those on the site either.


-AG

[Jasoco]

I don't know what it is. And when I go to the site, I get a "Javascript Disabled" page which it is NOT. I know it's because I'm in Safari, but that's a stupid thing to assume. Do not Assume.

Assuming... you know what it does. If not, watch a rerun of "The Odd Couple".

Hmm.. After trying it on Mac IE5, I can see it working. But only the first page. So saying it works in IE5 is technically a lie. ;)

But when I make Safari tell your server I am IE 6, the site is messed up. And it's because of the lack of standards. x_x

What's with people not using standardized coding? You don't even close the HTML or BODY tags. THat is a no-no. The W3C would have a field day with that site. LOL

There's nothing more idiotic (For lack of a better word.) than a web site that bars people using other browsers.

Okay.. I'm done. Good luck making it work on everyone's computer. I'm sure there are a lot of people here who don't use IE. A LOT. (Judging from the statistics on my web site. Half the visitors use Safari, Netscape, Mozilla, Omniweb, Firebird, iCab...)

[Max_Glink]

AdamG,

The way we have the search setup right now you can refine your search on an individual item but we do not yet have advanced search features implemented for item searches. In other words, if you clicked on a specific game you could refine your search for users that have or want that game.



Also, if someone wants to make a trade attempt at any of my games, do they see the custom title? I would think using that as an extra descriptor would be nice.

Yes, we added the option for the custom title specifically for problems like this. For example, if someone were searching for the game "Art of Fighting" for NeoGeo they would find it in the database and click on the game. Then they would see that you have it listed with the custom title: "MVS Version"

http://www.nintari.net/uil.php?lst=0&gin=5522&search=art%20of%20fighting

I think having a custom title is useful because it provides a chance to differenciate from others. Does this answer your question?



EDIT: also, later on having import categories would be nice. I've recently obtained a decent-sized Japanese Saturn collection but I can't really list those on the site either.

For the categories that would need to be added...i suggest sending an email to feedback@nintari.net and we should be able to make the necessary adjustments asap.

-Max_Glink

[Max_Glink]

What's with people not using standardized coding? You don't even close the HTML or BODY tags. THat is a no-no. The W3C would have a field day with that site. LOL


One of the big reasons we decided to launch in BETA is because the site is not yet cross browser compatible and this is obviously a huge issue (it seems to be even more of an issue then we actually anticipated). We are planning to adhere to W3C standards.

The other reason we launched in beta was because we felt it would make it easier to refine the solution into something everyone would want to use. I don't like sites that assume their users should just be happy with what they give you. I want to make a site that is community driven and that continues to grow with its users.

I very much appreciate your input.

-Max_Glink

[AB Positive]

I wasn't sure if people were going to be able to see those custom titles, and the advanced search works just as well as what I proposed.

I want to say that I'm quite impressed and really hope this works out, this is much better than IGN Collections or GameTZ.

I'll email about import sections on your site, and if you ever need any help with anything *coughwhoringmyselfoutcough* make sure to put up a 'help wanted' topic in OT here, I'm sure people won't mind ;)

-AG

[Max_Glink]

I want to say that I'm quite impressed and really hope this works out, this is much better than IGN Collections or GameTZ.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. = )

Good idea about posting in the Help Wanted section. We could definitely use all the input we can get. I definitely will.

As for helping us out, your help and insight would be much appreciated. I'll send you an email.

Cheers,
Max_Glink

[norkusa]

At this point we have no intention of ever charging for listing nor do we intend to charge to have your collection listed on the site.

Right, but are you going to let Nintari members contact other Nintari members at no charge? GameTZ also lets you list and update your collection as much as you want for free, but only paid subscribers can actually contact the other members on the site to make trade/sale offers. The non-subscribers at GameTZ don't have access to other members email addresses.

Is Nintari going to be like that?

[Max_Glink]

At this point users can message each other freely. We will likely have forums up at some point too, so nothing will prevent users from messaging each other via email or through the site.

The intent will be only to charge when a sale takes place (we may possibly give a subsciption option as well). We haven't really finalized on this system however. I would certainly appreciate the input.

EDIT:I just thought I'd add that unlike gameTZ you will even be able to send offers for free. In fact, we have a whole trade engine built in to the site. We will also have a full matching system integrated in the vary near future.

[Max_Glink]

Ok, Nintari.net is now w3c compliant. I posted a "Help Wanted" thread in the Off-topic forum as was previously suggested. Please post any problems or issues there.

Cheers

[Ed Oscuro]

Looks pretty nice. Now how does one go about getting a game added? As I care about imports more than domestic games, I'd want to be able to get those into the system rather quickly.

Another note...found it rather odd that there's two listings for Gargoyle's Quest II, one on the GameBoy and another for the NES. I believe that the GB version of GQII was Japanese only (under the title Makaimura Gaiden) and the US GB game was the prequel to GQII, or Gargoyle's Quest.

Will there be a forum/tribunal to get names changed/fixed?

[Max_Glink]

well there's two ways:

1) the best way is to go to you the "My Collection" page and use the "Add item" box.

- you'll actually see underneath that box that it says that "if no other similar item is found you can create new one" This link allows you to skip right to adding the item

2) the other way is to email us and request that we add the items


As for forums:

We do plan to have forums up at some point. Probably not in the next month though. Mostly because we are working on a couple other features such as a more advanced matching system.

[Ed Oscuro]

I see that. What about fixing item names (in the case that they're wrong in the system)? And regions? I have a Revenge of Shinobi, but it's the Euro Mega Drive cartridge, not the Genesis version. I see a "custom title" (description) field; would I use this for such matters?

[Max_Glink]

I see that. What about fixing item names (in the case that they're wrong in the system)? And regions? I have a Revenge of Shinobi, but it's the Euro Mega Drive cartridge, not the Genesis version. I see a "custom title" (description) field; would I use this for such matters?

In this case the game is for a different console so you can add a new item to the database. Mega Drive isn't a console we have listed yet so under the platform drop down choose to specify your own platform (i.e. Mega Drive).

The custom title can have anythng you want in it, but in the case of adding an item for a different console it's certainly preferable to add it to the database.

Does that answer your question?

Cheers

[Max_Glink]

What about fixing item names (in the case that they're wrong in the system)?

Upon reviewing this question I realized I didn't really answer it. The best way to get an item fixed, if there is a problem is to just e-mail me at support@nintari.net or feedback@nintari.net

[Ed Oscuro]

Hmm...I think putting up a little forum for discussing such things is a better real solution. I've been known to give bad advice, and the only way to make sure some loon is going around substituting incorrect titles for incorrect titles is to have a group of people give their opinions on it. Sort of what's done at GameTZ.

As for the drop down list, I suggest having separate entries for the Japanese MegaDrive and the European one (something like MegaDrive - Japan and MegaDrive - Euro). Solves that issue quite well, I think :)

[Max_Glink]

I agree. As a long term solution it would be much better to have a good forum for discussion. This is something we will have to look into more closely.

I think that's a good suggestion for the two types of Mega Drives. I will update the database early this week (or if you have games to add to the database feel free to specify it as a category type when you add the games)

[Ed Oscuro]

w00t, thank you sir! Now to see about using the site. :)

[Dahne]

Ooh! I love how the listing of games shows how many people have it up for sale and how many want it! Really neat idea, nice easy navigation too. I dread to think how much time I may spend setting up a collection list. LOL I haven't finished registering yet. Is there a way to put the games in a list without offering them for sale/trade? I'd like to be able to, say, make a list of all the games I own, then be able to set an icon or something next to it that means "want to trade," "will trade if a nice deal comes along," or "wouldn't give up for all the schoolgirls in Tokyo."

[Max_Glink]

well... right now you can:

-set a custom title for each item
-set specific prices that are negotiable or non-negotiable
-or leave it as just "make me and offer" (to leave it open-ended)

You can also make items on your list "invisible" or not for sale.. you can do this by going to "My Collection", unchecking the box to the left of the title, and then clicking "save changes" at the bottom of the column. (note: the item will still appear on your profile page but will no longer appear if you do a search for it)

do those options help ?

ps/ i'm glad you like the site. = )

[Nz17]

Ok, Nintari.net is now w3c compliant.

Now that you have made Nintari.net standards compliant I may make it a central hub of mine for wheeling and dealing my game collection. Before I would trick out the site by having Mozilla/Firefox use a falsified HTTP_AGENT string, but of course, even though I could get into the site, the HTML was broken and so the pages looked bad.

Internet Explorer was purposefully made to be very forgiving of sloppy Web coding. This was done so that the uninformed masses would think, "Well, my pages look fine in IE so obviously it is your browser that is the problem, not my HTML," but naturally it was the code that was causing the upset in strickter browsers like Netscape Navigator. Why is Netscape dead today? Not from the product lacking, but from the illusion that it was a broken browser after Microsoft got in the game. On the positive side of things Microsoft, by bundling IE with Windows, really helped bring a lot of new people onto the WWW.

I have to second a lot of posters on this thread, though; you really should have had your pages W3C/HTML Strict compliant since the beginning. Code should always be well constructed, complete, and commented. Besides, by supporting only Windows IE it makes you seem for Microsoft / against other browsers/OS's / and/or ignorant, even if these assumptions aren't true. Remember, though it seems cruel, to users you are not a real person, just a responder on the other end of their computer, and thus they fill in assumptions about you since they cannot perceive the truth directly.

Thanks for setting things right. Nintari.net, here I come!

P.S. The site's colors and graphics look very Windows XP-ish. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, I'm just saying...

[Max_Glink]

That was one of the most entertaining posts I've ever read. :)

In hindsight we definitely should have had Nintari.net w3c compliant from the start. Actually the irony of all this is that there is one browser that I know for certain Nintari.net still doesn't work on: Internet Explorer for Mac. That browser is so bad that the site just doesn't work at all. Microsoft has actually stopped supporting it and doesn't intend to make a newer versions. I guess it has fallen too far behind.

I hope this will be ok though... I promise it isn't meant as a personal insult to IE for Mac users. = )

[Max_Glink]

As for the drop down list, I suggest having separate entries for the Japanese MegaDrive and the European one (something like MegaDrive - Japan and MegaDrive - Euro).


Hey, I just remembered that I hadn't posted an upade about this. I added the Megadrive to the Nintari.net database as two entries:

1) Megadrive (Japanese)
2) Megadrive (European)

Cheers

[optic_85]

I signed uo for the site about 1 week ago, and i like it. There are a couple faults with the trading sytem(make an option to just private message someone for questions, and things. Instead of having to make a trade offer evey time you want info on an owner's game. Know what i mean? ), and there are some holes in the game library(couldnt find any of my import games, but i only have a few). Overall it's a good site, with a nice design, and it's easy to get around. Keep up the good work. I hope nintari is around for a while.......

[Max_Glink]

I signed uo for the site about 1 week ago, and i like it. There are a couple faults with the trading sytem(make an option to just private message someone for questions, and things. Instead of having to make a trade offer evey time you want info on an owner's game. Know what i mean? ), and there are some holes in the game library(couldnt find any of my import games, but i only have a few). Overall it's a good site, with a nice design, and it's easy to get around. Keep up the good work. I hope nintari is around for a while.......

Right now the easiest way to contact another user is to click on the e-mail link found on every user's profile page. You can get to a user's profile page by clicking on their username.

As for the holes in the library. You can add more items to the database through the "My Collection" page. There is a link at the bottom of the "Add Item" box that says: "- If no other similar item is found you can create a new one". This will allow you to add new items to the database.

There are several people (some of whom frequent digitpress.com) who have volunteered to help add some of the missing items from the database. For that I am very thankful. If you have items to add I encourage you to do so.

Cheers

[Ed Oscuro]

"want to trade," "will trade if a nice deal comes along," or "wouldn't give up for all the schoolgirls in Tokyo."
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/images/smiles/Llol.gif

Must be one heck of a game! I suppose "All the tea in China" is non-PC these days. Gotta have a replacement.

I'm sad to hear that the, um, venerable old IE for Mac is completely dead. I used it now and then in high school. On the plus side maybe folks will keep using Netscape...one can only hope :P

Microsoft isn't going to be releasing IE for free at all anymore, you only get an upgrade with an OS upgrade (so much for the Justice Department, eh? Lousy useless campaign that was anyway.)

Back on topic...I'll stop by Nintari when time allows and help out a bit.

[Richter]

Do you just want domestic games added? I've got a few JP Saturn games not listed

[Max_Glink]

Do you just want domestic games added? I've got a few JP Saturn games not listed

If it's a video game then feel free to add it. If the console isn't there then feel free to add the console too. I don't see any reason to restrict the database to domestic games.

We have categories for consoles/accessories for sale or trade sometime soon. I'll have to figure out exactly where that will finish in our development and post a quick update.

[optic_85]

We have categories for consoles/accessories for sale or trade sometime soon. I'll have to figure out exactly where that will finish in our development and post a quick update.

....That's a good idea! It'll add a whole new aspect to the site!......And maybe i will be able to get rid of my N64....

[Richter]

Do you just want domestic games added? I've got a few JP Saturn games not listed

If it's a video game then feel free to add it. If the console isn't there then feel free to add the console too. I don't see any reason to restrict the database to domestic games. cool, to make it easier on the search goer, i tacked on (JP) after the game title to denote it isnt domestic

[Max_Glink]

cool, to make it easier on the search goer, i tacked on (JP) after the game title to denote it isnt domestic

Yeah, might separate the japanese saturn and the american saturn into two separte categories.. I did that for the megadrive so it might make sense to be consistent. What's your take on this idea?

[Nz17]

When did Nintari.net implode and disappear from the Internet? I haven't used the site in years, but just presumed that it was still running as a healthy competitor to GameTZ. But when I recently went to check my profile there, the site was gone! So does anyone here know the story behind this?