View Full Version : Rare NES Proto Prototype...
Nicola
03-03-2004, 05:52 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3081361319&category=62053
Homemade?
PapaStu
03-03-2004, 06:26 AM
Looks it, i dont think that Sunsoft usually goes to RadioShack for solder boards. But im not a NES master....
Darth, Nesman85 what do you guys think. You've both got proto's.
tholly
03-03-2004, 10:07 AM
Yea, 5th picture down has radio shack on the board.......I wouldn't know cuz I dont have any protos but I agree with the post above, I doubt they are going to radio shack for parts. Doesn't the casing usually have holes cut into it too?
Kejoriv
03-03-2004, 10:31 AM
I would be willing to bet that this isnt a proto. For a couple reasons: too many wires and Radio Shack board. Also the protos Ive seen have the same color board.
Bratwurst
03-03-2004, 10:51 AM
That can't be a proto, those are the final production mask roms. The extra stuff is just the NES lockout chip removed from the original PCB and hacked/rewired onto a project board.
Why the hell would someone do this? Make the cart universal?
tholly
03-03-2004, 12:12 PM
Why the hell would someone do this? Make the cart universal?
......or to make people think it is a proto so they can get a lot of money for it on eBay???
udisi
03-03-2004, 01:03 PM
Actually I think it could be a true proto....although it is weird to have actual mask roms, especially with wires, all the board pics I've seen look like offical nes boards(I didn't see the radio shack board) If it is a fake, it's an elaberate one, IE, they ripped real production Gremlins 2 chip from a real cart, put them on a nes proto board, know enough about pinouts and such to run the wires to the upper gate chip there.
Bratwurst
03-03-2004, 01:28 PM
......or to make people think it is a proto so they can get a lot of money for it on eBay???
He lists the title with 'Proto?' but in his auction description he makes a disclaimer that it is not.
Actually I think it could be a true proto....although it is weird to have actual mask roms, especially with wires, all the board pics I've seen look like offical nes boards(I didn't see the radio shack board) If it is a fake, it's an elaberate one, IE, they ripped real production Gremlins 2 chip from a real cart, put them on a nes proto board, know enough about pinouts and such to run the wires to the upper gate chip there.
Radio Shack can be seen on the brown board most clearly in the very last picture of the cartridge, the third from the bottom.
That is not a proto board either, look inside a Gremlins 2 cart if you have one and it will be identical. Well, without the obvious hacking. :P TLROM can also be seen on the circuit board. TKROM, SNROM, etc are designations for final production board designs.
That isn't to say that game publishers / developers didn't send out preview carts that used production game boards and not official proto boards, but those use eproms.
Whoever did this is either bullshitting around to see if people will bite or genuinely knew what this would do. I'd like to know, I can't find any docs that talk about screwing around with the lockout chips on NES carts themselves.
portnoyd
03-03-2004, 02:35 PM
It's not a proto. Using a Radio Shack breadboard, the original lockout chip has been removed, and replaced by another one. I'm guessing for a region change? God only knows why.
dave
pango
03-03-2004, 07:14 PM
who would want to homebrew a crappy game like gremlins 2 anyway? LOL