Collectors, please read- (RE: E-Cards)

[wberdan]

Hi-
I was wondering if collectors consider E-Cards as "unique games" in their collection?
Also... is that to be considered a system?
I have no idea about anything E-card, but I just got a couple for .99 at kmart and I want to log em into my book..
let me know your opinions

willie

[video_game_addict]

I think you could go stir crazy trying to figure that out, ;) Personally they load a rom, but it is a very cheap media. I think it is interesting to collect, maybe start a album, but I would probably not count them in as games. Normally I think either cart or CD, so anything else I think is just relative. Like keychain games, or demo disc with playables on them, the Sega swirl thingie from DC, the downloadables for pocket PC, DC VMUs, and stuff. I just think of a card as a card. But if you want to boost those numbers, start adding up!

[sisko]

I feel that the e-reader is as much of a system as the 32X or Sega CD is. In fact, Nintendo considers it a system themselves, so its good enough for me.

I'm actually working very feverishly to obtain a complete e-reader collection (any card with a dot code on it), and I'm steadily getting closer.

Check out my buy/trade thread:

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=288448#288448

I might have something you need, or vice versa.

[Drexel923]

The only ones I care about are the NES ports and the upcoming G&W ports. To me they are just like any other port, thus making them an unique game, just as Super Mario All Stars is considered a unique game from the NES versions. (Even though it has improvements and the e-cards don't). As for the reader itself, I look at it as a peripharal like the Super Game Boy...though I could see people treating it like a system. I'm not sure exactly what the Animal Crossing and other cards do, but if they don't have a game on them, then I wouldn't consider them as one.

[Jasoco]

NO! The eReader is NOT a system. It's a Peripheral. A PERIPHERAL. An Add-On. Like the Sega CD and 32X. Like the Game Boy Player. Like the Super Game Boy. Like the 64DD and the Famicom Disk System. This topic is SOO beaten to death.

Anyways, $0.99? My store has them all for $1.99. Down from $3.99. I been waiting. But I'm gonna strike soon. (The benefits of working in the Electronics Department.)

[tholly]

I would probably consider the games unique, but I would consider the e-Reader a peripheral.

[wberdan]

im just curious-
is a peripheral always a peripheral?

what if "E-Cards" became the next hot thing and eclipsed the popularity of all the consoles and handhelds (gameboy included) out there.... would it still be considered a gameboy peripheral, or an individual system?
must it be a stand alone to be a system? is that the definition?

willie

[Jasoco]

Yes. The System is what the Periphrial is attached to.

The eReader does not work without a GBA. The eReader is the Peripheral. The GBA works without an eReader. The GBA is a System.

The same applies to the Genesis and Sega CD or 32X.

Or the N64 and the 64DD.

The Famicom and the Famicom Disk System.

And if it had happened, the Super NES and the PlayStation. (Wrap your brain around that phrase for a minute. ;) )

Some Peripherals can be plugged into others. Take the Game Boy Player. It plugs into a GameCube. Then you can plug an eReader into that.

[wberdan]

Yes. The System is what the Periphrial is attached to.

The eReader does not work without a GBA. The eReader is the Peripheral. The GBA works without an eReader. The GBA is a System.

The same applies to the Genesis and Sega CD or 32X.

Or the N64 and the 64DD.

The Famicom and the Famicom Disk System.

And if it had happened, the Super NES and the PlayStation. (Wrap your brain around that phrase for a minute. ;) )

Some Peripherals can be plugged into others. Take the Game Boy Player. It plugs into a GameCube. Then you can plug an eReader into that.

yeah, i agree with most of what you say- but its just when i have a game that wont work in any other slot or tray, then i usually define that as a "system" even if it is, in principal, a peripheral.
perhaps youre right, i dont know.

[Jasoco]

yeah, i agree with most of what you say- but its just when i have a game that wont work in any other slot or tray, then i usually define that as a "system" even if it is, in principal, a peripheral.
perhaps youre right, i dont know.Oh, go ahead and call it a System if you want. It'll be a "System", but it won't be a "System System". Just a different kind of "System". But never a "System System".

You get my drift?

Just don't even THINK of calling it a "Console".

[video_game_addict]

"System System" I like that, :P

As popular as TCG are becoming over here, I'm surprised there isn't some device out already that attaches to a tv to animate moves/attacks and gives these games a more live video feel. Might be the next big thing, that gives cards their own "system system" ;) I just don't think that would ever pan out thou because of how cheap and easily damaged the media is. Besides the fact it takes like 5 cards to load a single NES game, yet you could put the entire library of Nes games on one CD to play on a DC, so it's not very efficient right now either.

[The Manimal]

I think the E-Reader is a peripheral but I would consider the E-Card packages as unique games.

[sisko]

"System System" I like that, :P

As popular as TCG are becoming over here, I'm surprised there isn't some device out already that attaches to a tv to animate moves/attacks and gives these games a more live video feel. Might be the next big thing, that gives cards their own "system system" ;) I just don't think that would ever pan out thou because of how cheap and easily damaged the media is. Besides the fact it takes like 5 cards to load a single NES game, yet you could put the entire library of Nes games on one CD to play on a DC, so it's not very efficient right now either.

Its not exactly what you are saying, but the new Pokemon TCG's (Pokemon-e) have dot codes on them. Most just give a better explanation of the card or pokemon, but a few have a supplementary dot code on them that can unlock special mini-games.

[rbudrick]

This weekend, the KMart in my area was selling almost all their ecards for $1.00. I bought two of each.

-Rob

[Ed Oscuro]

NO! The eReader is NOT a system. It's a Peripheral. A PERIPHERAL. An Add-On. Like the Sega CD and 32X. Like the Game Boy Player. Like the Super Game Boy. Like the 64DD and the Famicom Disk System. This topic is SOO beaten to death.

Well. It's most like the Datach Joint ROM System Bandai put out back in the days of the Famicom, and Nintendo didn't consider that a system (to the best of my knowledge, of course; Nintendo didn't intend to snub Bandai at all, but they have a vested interest in seeing this item called a "system" even if it confuses the buyer as to what they need to play e-Reader cards - they want people to see it listed with other hardware and start thinking about how fun it would be to use e-Reader cards).

This is a good example of why you shouldn't let Nintendo do your thinking for you -- what they don't consider a system when released by a third party should likewise still not be a system if Nintendo releases the same thing themselves.

However, I would organize it as its own system, just as I would organize the Datach Joint ROM System and its cards if I had an incomplete set, and I would have 32x games in a different table than regular Genesis games. Makes things easier.

[Jasoco]

When I start getting some eReader stuff, I will put it on my Game Boy page. I'll just create a category specifically for the cards.

http://jasoco.no-ip.com/gamelist.php?sys=gb

Actually, I keep ALL my Game Boy stuff together. Old GB, Color, Pocket and Advanced all goes on the same page.

[Ed Oscuro]

http://jasoco.no-ip.com/gamelist.php?sys=gb

Actually, I keep ALL my Game Boy stuff together. Old GB, Color, Pocket and Advanced all goes on the same page.
There ya go. That looks pretty darn slick.

[Nature Boy]

Hi-
I was wondering if collectors consider E-Cards as "unique games" in their collection?
Also... is that to be considered a system?
I have no idea about anything E-card, but I just got a couple for .99 at kmart and I want to log em into my book..
let me know your opinions

As far as collecting goes, if I have to buy games specifically for something (be it a console, peripheral, or computer) it gets it's own list. So yes, I do have an e-Reader list, and I do consider them to be 'unique' games. In my mind they're just older games released on a newer system (much like the Resident Evil games are on Gamecube).

[Jasoco]

I just price checked all our eReader cards at my store which are all marked $1.99 and it says "Price Req". Meaning they are not for some reason, in the system. If that other one is set to $.99, I was gonna get the "Reduced" price gun and do my own marking down. But I couldn't find it. So I'll inquire later.

How many first generation NES eReader card games were there? I have 11 at my store. Plus the pack-in DK Jr. I think one's missing.

Where's an official list?

[sisko]

I just price checked all our eReader cards at my store which are all marked $1.99 and it says "Price Req". Meaning they are not for some reason, in the system. If that other one is set to $.99, I was gonna get the "Reduced" price gun and do my own marking down. But I couldn't find it. So I'll inquire later.

How many first generation NES eReader card games were there? I have 11 at my store. Plus the pack-in DK Jr. I think one's missing.

Where's an official list?

There are 2 or 3 series of NES games, 13 in all.

DK
DK3
DK Jr
Mario Bros
Clu Clu Land
Balloon Fight
Urban Champion
Golf
Tennis
Excite Bike
Ice Climbers
Pinball
Baseball

You can find almost complete lists at

http://www.nintendo-e-reader.com/

The classic NES list claims to be complete (one series seems to be missing from the numbering system)

Other series are missing a few cards.

[orrimarrko]

Ahh, another of these "when is a system considered a system" threads.

I think that we did this before with the Sega 32X, but it's been a while.

(Certainly not knocking on you Will! :) )

I have always felt that the definition of a "peripheral" was, "An additional piece of hardware, that used in conjuction with a console, would provide the user with access to an additional library of titles. The peripheral is not a controller or an accessory, and cannot facilitate the play of games without it's 'parent' console."

This would encompass such things as: Sega CD 1 & 2, Sega 32X, E-Reader, Jaguar CD, Turbo CD, etc...

Note, that the Sega CDX is a different matter. That would actually be considered a stand-alone console.

I didn't take the quoted definition from another source - I made it up as I went along. However, I feel that it encompasses all of the relevant points. You may think that I'm, full of shit, however...

So, as far as the e-cards are concerned - they're just a different format of game. I consider them collectable games as much as the Sega 32X carts or Jaguar CDs.

If you want to collect all of the games for the GBA - they're just a different type.

Just my opinion...

Steve

[orrimarrko]

sorry, double post

[Jasoco]

There are 2 or 3 series of NES games, 13 in all.

DK
DK3
DK Jr
Mario Bros
Clu Clu Land
Balloon Fight
Urban Champion
Golf
Tennis
Excite Bike
Ice Climbers
Pinball
Baseball

You can find almost complete lists at

http://www.nintendo-e-reader.com/

The classic NES list claims to be complete (one series seems to be missing from the numbering system)

Other series are missing a few cards.Apparently the one we are missing is Pinball. So I'll just have to find that somewhere else. Then I'll have all 13 once I actually get an eReader, whenever that is. And it'll be that $70 GBA/eReader bundle. And only for that reason.. to play eReader games. And to collect.

Of course, I'll also get it for my SMB3 cart. That is such a cool idea. And at least I don't have to have the eReader sticking out of the GBA I'm using. (How the hell do they expect SP users to play with an eReader? I'd have expected an "eReader 2 SP Edition" with a new compact design by now. (Would clip onto the back and plug in. Would be cool.. of course.. no go. We'll see.

[Jasoco]

I have no idea about anything E-card, but I just got a couple for .99 at kmart and I want to log em into my book..

Get this.

A Penny.

The other day I got curious. I mentioned this. They weren't in the computer. So today, I asked the department manager about them. The got her LRT and scanned them. The message "This item is part of the Electronics Mark-Down" and they were coming up .01 in the computer. So she asked another higher up and they decided a penny it was. And a penny it is.

Then I asked about the two that were still in the computer.. She said "Screw it" and now all the cards are in a basket marked a penny. A single freaking penny.

I will be bringing home all I can carry. For a single penny each tonight.

I counted about 11 different packs. But that's not bad. I can get the other two elsewhere and still make out. :D

Can't wait to hang a pack of each on my wall. ;)

You can't beat THAT unless someone were to give them to you!

Now.. I think I'll grab a used eReader from GameStop to hold me over. Though, I really should get that bundle because I will still need a second one to play SMB3 cards. (Which are still $5.99 obviously. We can't have EVERYTHING.)

[The Manimal]

For those with E-cards, how do you open the packages? I have tried opening the inner packs from the top, and that didnt' work. Ended up tearing one. On another, I tried the bottom, and that worked better, but not too good. I have to completely separate them at all ends (top/bottom/center-back) to get the cards out. Thought perhaps I should just snip off the top (for example) altogether and pull them out.

But even greater of an issue, THE PACKAGING? I have opened 4 so far and have completely mauled all of them. I have been trying to peel along the plastic without screwing up the paper, but everything keeps tearing. They look horrible. I feel bad about this :( I am not thinking I should get a modeling knife and cut the plastic at the point it meets the cardboard backing all the way around....

[tholly]

For those with E-cards, how do you open the packages? I have tried opening the inner packs from the top, and that didnt' work. Ended up tearing one. On another, I tried the bottom, and that worked better, but not too good. I have to completely separate them at all ends (top/bottom/center-back) to get the cards out. Thought perhaps I should just snip off the top (for example) altogether and pull them out.

But even greater of an issue, THE PACKAGING? I have opened 4 so far and have completely mauled all of them. I have been trying to peel along the plastic without screwing up the paper, but everything keeps tearing. They look horrible. I feel bad about this :( I am not thinking I should get a modeling knife and cut the plastic at the point it meets the cardboard backing all the way around....

to open them, i use a razor blade...i have about 100 opened packs (mostly animal crossing) that are all perfect except for my 1st pack which i messed up...i put the foils back in and they all look like they are new

[sisko]

(Which are still $5.99 obviously. We can't have EVERYTHING.)

You can find them most everywhere else for $4.99

[The Manimal]

UPDATE: I tried gluing the E-Reader packages back together with Elmers Glue, and well, all of them look pretty good now (obvious lines where the rips were but they are glued down, they look fine. Perhaps if I find a blue colored pencil I can touch them up a tad. However, maybe I should not have said ALL because one of them, URBAN CHAMPION...the one I mauled the worst and in many places, was near impossible to fix, but I tried. It looks like total crap. I might go ahead and buy it over for this reason (screwed up and ugly packaging LOL )....I paid $3.29+tax for it, and well, I've already wasted more than $3's worth of my life thinking about replacing it, so I might as well.

How I am open them NOW is by getting a razor and slicing the complete top of the plastic part off about 1/3 of a cm down. So there is an opening at the top, and none at the bottom. You can pull the pack out from the top, and I could hang them on a rack by the rack thingie if wanted.

[calthaer]

Note to collectors: I've been looking for some of these games for a while now, and some of them (like Urban Champion in particular) have been getting harder and harder to find.

No more! If anyone else is looking to complete their NES e-Reader collection, head to the Nintendo Store on Nintendo's website. They have all of the games - including Urban Champion - for $4.95 each. No hassle, no eBay nonsense - just straight ordering.

[tholly]

for urban champion, try checking K-mart....i got 3 packs of urban champion there for $0.40 a piece....maybe your local k-mart will have some on sale too

[Jasoco]

Many Kmarts are out. If they're like mine, people bought them all up when they got priced down to a penny each.

[mikeetler]

... And it'll be that $70 GBA/eReader bundle.

If you have a Circuit City near you, check for e-reader bundles there. I came across a couple last week at a local CC for $50.

-Mike

[Jasoco]

... And it'll be that $70 GBA/eReader bundle.

If you have a Circuit City near you, check for e-reader bundles there. I came across a couple last week at a local CC for $50.

-MikeI saw them. And that is a damn nice price. But sadly, my CC doesn't have the color I want. ;)

Actually, I don't care about the color, but I just haven't gotten around to coughing up that much for a second GBA. But I am keeping it in mind. It's a better discount than my own store.

[esquire]

Has anyone tried using an e-Reader on the Gameboy Player fro the Gamecube? Just curious if its possible.

[tholly]

Has anyone tried using an e-Reader on the Gameboy Player fro the Gamecube? Just curious if its possible.


its possible, but i havent bothered to do it yet....and chances are i probably never will

[Nature Boy]

Has anyone tried using an e-Reader on the Gameboy Player fro the Gamecube? Just curious if its possible.

I'm pretty sure that's what I did for the SMB3 cards. Connect the eReader to the 'cube, then transfer the info to the GBA over the GB to GB link. Worked like a charm...