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Half Japanese
03-18-2004, 02:21 PM
I saw this at IGN Cube the other day and found it interesting, so I thought I'd share:

Starting April 29th the following titles will join the Player's Choice program, and thus get a price drop:

$29.99:

Wario World
Mario Golf

$19.99:

F-Zero GX
Metroid Prime


Some solid titles to be had there, and for considerably less dough. Looks like I'll finally be picking up F-Zero and Mario Golf!

source: http://cube.ign.com/articles/499/499354p1.html

Kejoriv
03-18-2004, 02:23 PM
Thats some good news. :)

BHvrd
03-18-2004, 02:28 PM
Mmmmmm, Mario Golf. :-P

nesman85
03-18-2004, 02:37 PM
yes! wario world! i've been wanting to pick that up for a while now. :-P

Lady Jaye
03-18-2004, 02:45 PM
I'm gonna pick up F-Zero, that's for sure!!!

Darkness X
03-18-2004, 02:49 PM
I will be getting F-Zero GX and Mario Golf for sure!

Thanks for the info :)

Cmosfm
03-18-2004, 03:40 PM
Mario Golf and Metriod are the only ones worth buying IMO. F-Zero is too hard and Wario...sucks.

:o

Just my opinion though

Jasoco
03-18-2004, 05:10 PM
Someone tell fucking Nintendo that rereleased popular titles are SUPPOSED TO BE $20. NOT $30.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid Nintendo.

STUPID. :angry:

norkusa
03-18-2004, 06:04 PM
Someone tell fucking Nintendo that rereleased popular titles are SUPPOSED TO BE $20. NOT $30.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid Nintendo.

STUPID. :angry:

YES! I was thinking exactly the same thing. Xbox Platinum Series games are all $20. PS2 Greatest Hits titles are $20 (allot are even $15). But the majority of Nintendos Players Choice titles are $30.

What is Nintendos problem with price drops on their games anyway? Even when the 64 was out, I remember it being impossible to go to the store and find *good* new n64 games for under $30-$40.

davidbrit2
03-18-2004, 06:09 PM
What is Nintendos problem with price drops on their games anyway? Even when the 64 was out, I remember it being impossible to go to the store and find *good* new n64 games for under $30-$40.

It's probably related to the fact that they're rereleasing Famicom games for GBA in Japan. With one game per cartridge. At about 3,000 Yen each. Nintendo's just greedy.

And this might give me an excuse to buy Mario Golf. I already got F-Zero at that price, thanks to a weird markdown at Kay Bee. Heh.

nesuser2
03-18-2004, 07:39 PM
What has Nintendo not done yet? I don't get their strategy.....A system for $99 and then 2 Nintendo Titles will cost you the same price. Sega has jumped on this boat too selling their titles for $49.99 and then dropping shortly there after but Sonic Mega Coll. is still at $39.99 which isn't too bad. Anyways, Why not do the smart thing...make your money on the console and make games affordable. Most people really don't care how much they spend on a system as it's something concrete...it's the backbone but games....you don't know if you're going to absolutely love them like the demo or learn to hate them or something like that. Nintendo needs to release demo discs for $4.99...DUH! and if they sold their system for $149 and sold games for $20 and $40, they would be smart. $40 is acceptable but $50 is just plain crazy. Rarely do I ever spend that much cash on games and $30 for some of these titles is just crazy. How long has Wario been out and how long has Metroid been out? I think the $39.99 I spent on VJ for GCN was some of the best $$ I've spent on a game and they've already dropped the price to $29.99(Check Kmart...Yes Kmart) If they could work things out on the software end, hardware would fall of the shelves..like ps2 for example. Their systems were turning up dead everywhere and people kept buying it because they could buy cheap games to start them out.

On a side note, you can get PS2 memory cards at kmart for $19.99 and the kmart I visited also had a clearance section for some decent games around $15-30...Check it out :D

Achika
03-18-2004, 08:08 PM
And what happens when Nintendo drop the price to $29.99 instead of the unwritten "law" of $19.99? People. Still. Buy. Them.

Drop the price on the system, crank up the price for the games. The consumer only has to pay for the console once, but the average gamer has more than one game for it. Nail them in the wallet once, or nail them in the wallet multiple times? If you were a corp., what would you do? They don't want to make it more affordable for you, they want fluffier paychecks for themselves.

Metroid Prime is already on shelves as a GH title (saw the yellow stripe the other day). F-Zeros price has been circling around $30 for awhile
Wario has been out for about 10 months. IMO, that's pretty quick to be a GH title.

Jasoco
03-18-2004, 08:20 PM
If you were a corp., what would you do?
Hmm.. Let's ask Sony and Microsoft who both.. wait.. no, neither of them do this.

NO EXCUSE.

Fuck Nintendo and their $30 Players Choice games. I already paid $30 for Animal Crossing which was only worth it because it came with a memory card. That's the ONLY game that is excusable. A a virtual flop like Mario Sunshine shouldn't be $30. Wario World shouldn't be $30. Frankly, I'm surprised Metroid is $20. Didn't that game do well? Did they get Wario and Metroid mixed up? Who is making up the prices here?

davidbrit2
03-18-2004, 09:13 PM
Nintendo is turning into the Michael Jackson of the video game industry. Back when they appeared, they were hot shit, and adored by all, and now they're just on the fucking moon. Pikmin 2 got pushed back to like July. The sequel to just about their only decent 1st party console game in a long time has been delayed. Great.

Half Japanese
03-18-2004, 10:27 PM
^ That's as good an analogy as I've heard in a while. Still though, assuming the Mario Golf on GCN is as good as the one for GBC a few years ago, it's well worth the 30 bones. Not saying I agree with their pricing models, just saying the forebearer was a wonderful game.

nesuser2
03-18-2004, 11:53 PM
I can get along with the price drop to $30 on somewhat newer games, like Mario Golf that just came out a couple months ago. However if they're just going to $30....they shouldn't have it as a Player's Choice Title for the price slash. Keep a constant on your PC prices and to be frankly honest, I don't think anything can truely save Nintendo at this point. They've moved all over the board and simply don't have enough growth as a company to keep them strong. They will probably still be around for a while but I think Nintendo will only grow to be a thing of the past more and more. Like Michael Jackson LOL

davidbrit2
03-18-2004, 11:56 PM
The only thing is, of course, that they just keep milking the Gameboy, so they can afford to keep screwing up. It's like they don't even care.

Crush Crawfish
03-19-2004, 12:04 AM
And I already paid full price for all those games. :Somewhere, a wallet is heard weeping...:

Achika
03-19-2004, 12:59 AM
They will probably still be around for a while but I think Nintendo will only grow to be a thing of the past more and more. Like Michael Jackson LOL

Shhh! Don't say that too loud! THEY can hear you... ;)

kai123
03-19-2004, 03:57 AM
Boo hoo these companies are out to make money on their current systems. That should be obvious to everyone. If people are going to pay $30 for a game then why charge $20? It is the same thing with the mario remakes on the Gba, paying $30 for an old NES game. :roll:

§ Gideon §
03-19-2004, 07:56 AM
yes! wario world! i've been wanting to pick that up for a while now. :-P
Actually, I remember seeing Wario World for $10 somewhere... I'm sorry that I don't remember.

GrandAmChandler
03-19-2004, 08:19 AM
Obviously we here on this board are not the general public... But! If Nintendo can still sell older games for $29.99, then why the hell not? It makes sense business wise. If sales begin to flop, then drop the price.


Where else are you going to find Animal Crossing, Pikimin, Super Mario Sunshine, Star Fox, Wave Race, F-Zero, Smash Brothers, Metroid etc.....?

hydr0x
03-19-2004, 09:34 AM
wtf?? mario golf drops in price in the US even before it's released in Europe, damn i hate them, i really wonder why it's not yet released here :(

Richter
03-19-2004, 02:36 PM
how different are the Player's Choice titles to the normal titles cosmetically?

PS2 Greatest Hits have black & white paper manuals & no disc art on the cd
XB Platinmum hits have a small silver bar on the game disc, with the original cd art

Half Japanese
03-19-2004, 03:03 PM
Cosmetic differences:

Case:

- yellow "Player's Choice" banner at the top of the case
- yellow "Nintendo Gamecube" logo on the spine (normally black)

Game:

- no difference in the discs as far as I can tell

sabre2922
03-19-2004, 03:21 PM
Nintendo has definitely become the Micheal Jackson of the gaming industry
Thier tactics just dont seem to pan out for the better and often conflict with each other
:hmm:
Its so sad what they have done with the Gamecube even though the system itself is a moderate success the GC was Nintendos chance to return to a dominating position in the industry and now at least in the U.S. they are definitely running in third behind Microsoft no matter what the big N and the many Nintendo advocates here try to argue
please dont bother to flame as I would luv to see the big N back in the #1 place but as long as thier are all the Sony sheep out there and so many casual gamers buying games like Enter the Matrix I see a fairly bleak future for us real gamers who acually enjoy and thrive on this hobby of ours

ubersaurus
03-19-2004, 03:34 PM
I can get along with the price drop to $30 on somewhat newer games, like Mario Golf that just came out a couple months ago. However if they're just going to $30....they shouldn't have it as a Player's Choice Title for the price slash. Keep a constant on your PC prices and to be frankly honest, I don't think anything can truely save Nintendo at this point. They've moved all over the board and simply don't have enough growth as a company to keep them strong. They will probably still be around for a while but I think Nintendo will only grow to be a thing of the past more and more. Like Michael Jackson LOL

Wasn't Halo 30 bucks when Microsoft platinumed it? I'm pretty sure it was.

Why bother reducing it that extra ten bucks when people will buy it at 30? Nintendo is a corporation. They want to make money. That's what businesses do, you know, make money? Sony can afford to lower their prices more due to the fact that they're the leader and have a pricier console. Nintendo, I'd assume, takes a bigger hit on gamecubes-to make up for it, they have some of their games a bit more expensive when they hit GH.

Don't make me call the Wambulance. I'll do it.

nesuser2
03-19-2004, 05:22 PM
how different are the Player's Choice titles to the normal titles cosmetically?

PS2 Greatest Hits have black & white paper manuals & no disc art on the cd
XB Platinmum hits have a small silver bar on the game disc, with the original cd art

When did they start doing that with the PS2 GH stuff? I just checked all of mine and they are the original cd's with the red Greatest hits section on the cd and the manual is the same as the original. Case has the red gh banner and on top of that, I've seen some PS2 games that have the Red GH banner as a sticker on the celephane, so I would be led to believe that nothing inside those packages is any different.

Achika
03-19-2004, 05:46 PM
Wasn't Halo 30 bucks when Microsoft platinumed it? I'm pretty sure it was.


I don't think it's constituted as a Platinum Hit yet. I think that was a price drop and there was word that it would be a Platinum Hit later and would finally drop to $20.

Oh, before the yellow bars were added to the Gamecube packaging, some only had stickers (that could easily be removed) denoting that it was a Player's Choice. This was back when the program started. I know for sure Luigi's Mansion did, but I can't recall what others may have....Super Smash Brothers Melee perhaps?

nesuser2
03-19-2004, 06:02 PM
Wasn't Halo 30 bucks when Microsoft platinumed it? I'm pretty sure it was.


I don't think it's constituted as a Platinum Hit yet. I think that was a price drop and there was word that it would be a Platinum Hit later and would finally drop to $20.

Oh, before the yellow bars were added to the Gamecube packaging, some only had stickers (that could easily be removed) denoting that it was a Player's Choice. This was back when the program started. I know for sure Luigi's Mansion did, but I can't recall what others may have....Super Smash Brothers Melee perhaps?

I can concur with the findings and I'm pretty sure those were the two titles I remember. At the very least, I know I paid $20 for Luigi's Mansion with no banner or sticker, just a clear sticker on the packaging, those kind of stickers that require literally no effort to remove and can't be restuck. The kind that they cover plastic finishes with to protect against minor scratches before purchase. Anyways, I can't remember the whole list of games I saw like this. For some reason I thought I saw Super Monkey ball 2 this way.....Could be wrong though.

DigitalSpace
03-20-2004, 03:12 AM
I've seen some PS2 games that have the Red GH banner as a sticker on the celephane, so I would be led to believe that nothing inside those packages is any different.

I bought Sly Cooper when it became a PS2 GH and it had that sticker on the celephane, and that was it. Non GH variation on the case and disc. I assume this is because Sony didn't have the GH variation ready in time for the price change or wanted to sell off the rest of the non GH variation before the GH variation was shipped.

As for my thoughts on the pricing of first-party Player's Choice titles, even after reading this entire thread, imo $30 still makes me feel a little ripped off. Even if that's what Nintendo may be doing to make up for losses.

DigitalSpace
03-20-2004, 03:13 AM
Edit: Double post

Ze_ro
03-20-2004, 01:31 PM
Fuck Nintendo and their $30 Players Choice games.

Wah, wah... if you don't like the prices, then don't buy them. There's no rule that these greatest hits games have to be any specific price. Nintendo isn't forcing you or anything, they're just doing what will be the most profitable for them. Did you really think you were going to be able to get the system for dirt cheap AND the games for dirt cheap? The first hit is cheap, but then you gotta pay.

Besides, it's still a price drop... even if it's not as big a drop as you wanted.


Frankly, I'm surprised Metroid is $20. Didn't that game do well?

Wasn't Metroid Prime already a Player's Choice title for $30 earlier? If so, maybe these $30 PC titles will drop to $20 eventually too.

--Zero

Achika
03-20-2004, 11:38 PM
I think Sony sent the GH stickers to stores or Sony Reps dropped them off. We've had a generic case for Dark Cloud forever in Gamestop because someone took the original. I walked in a few months ago, and the burgundy sticker was on it. It was probably just sent to "hold retailers over" until the factory marked games were shipped.