FTP is not an option. Another way to get stuff on my XBOX?

[Anthony1]

I recently got my XBOX modded, with a larger hard drive. The particular modchip is the Xecuter2. It's running Evolution X v.1.8.3752.

Everything in working fine. I can put XBOX games on there and stuff like that, but I'm clueless in terms of how to get the emulators on there and the roms.

I went to xbox-scene.com and their tutorial section and they have tons and tons of tutorials on just about everything you can possibly imagine, but I looked through all of them and I couldn't find one pertaining to getting emulators and roms running on Evolution X.

I'm a total dumbass when it comes to computers, so I need a guide to help me figure out the process of doing that.

I would like to play NES, TG-16, Genesis, SNES, MAME, etc, etc on my modded XBOX. That's the main reason that I got my XBOX modded in the first place.

Anyways, if anybody knows of a link to a guide that explains this for dummies, or if anybody can be so kind as to give me the steps required, I would be greatly appreciative.

Thanks.

- Anthony

[nesuser2]

Hey, As I mentioned before.....I'm still available for a phone call if you're available....or I could work up an article on it. It's really quite simple.....but....yet then it's not completely simple.

[NE146]

Everything in working fine. I can put XBOX games on there and stuff like that, but I'm clueless in terms of how to get the emulators on there and the roms. I went to xbox-scene.com and their tutorial section and they have tons and tons of tutorials on just about everything you can possibly imagine, but I looked through all of them and I couldn't find one pertaining to getting emulators and roms running on Evolution X.

I can probably help. Basically you'll need to learn how to use FTP. Because you'll probably get your emulators via FTP, and also to transfer them to your xbox, you probably will use FTP. A good free FTP program that I've found out there is smartFTP (http://www.smartftp.com)

To get the emulators, follow this guide http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/xbins.php Just FYI, in the steps they demonstrate using FlashFXP which is another FTP Program. But you can use any one you want.. including the one above. Or heck, you can just use FlashFXP like they say.


Anyways, if anybody knows of a link to a guide that explains this for dummies, or if anybody can be so kind as to give me the steps required, I would be greatly appreciative.

Like I said, bottom line is.. to put your files on your xbox, you're gonna have to use FTP. To FTP to your xbox from your pc, generally you either use 1) a cross connect cable or 2) a hub or router. The username/password on the xbox is xbox/xbox.

I'd check out the Xbox-scene emulation forums (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?s=ae96482b260522ff77f88c7afaa19e47&showforum=17) and in particular, this is a pretty good guide (it's stickied in the forums).. but it's the Beginners Guide to Xbox Emulation (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=130395). There are some bad urls and stuff in there.. but it's pretty ok. Basically you'd probably only be interested in items 3-7 anyway. ESPECIALLY ITEM #5

good luck ;)

Oh.. as far as getting roms. You're on your own. That aint hard ;)

[rxd]

I just burn my emulators to a CD-RW disk and run them from there.
Simple as hell and never a problem.

[NE146]

I just burn my emulators to a CD-RW disk and run them from there.
Simple as hell and never a problem.

Yep sure is. Just to avoid confusion, that too is covered "Step 5" as I referenced above :)



Step 5: deciding on a method for transferring files.
If you are familiar with the capabilities of your modified xbox, this should not be a mystery to you. But if you are not, then here’s a quick walkthrough. To transfer files to your xbox, you have two options:

1. Connect your xbox to your pc by network or crossover cable, and FTP files over to your HD. For more information on how to set up your xbox for FTP connection, please refer to these (http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/pc-xbox-ip-conf.php) tutorials.
On the PC side, you’ll need an FTP program. There are a lot of different programs out there, some free and some not. For a selection of freeware FTP clients, see NONAGS freeware archive (http://ftp.sunet.se/nonags/ftpc.html), or use you favourite FTP client.

2. Burn files on CD-RW or DVD, and use boXplorer (or other xbox file manager) to copy content to your HD. To read more see here (http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/iso-backup-guide.php) and here (http://www.xbox-scene.com/software/software.php?page=filemanagers).

[nesuser2]

I disagree, another one of the main purposes for doing this to your xbox is the ease of use. It's easier than anything before, with the exception of a computer. No discs are needed. I wouldn't play my xbox if I had to change discs all the time and that is easily shown by the fact that I never played any of the 400 or so DC discs I once had. It's just a hastle to look around for things. My emulation covers around 15gb and that's quite a few CDr's to dig through, IMHO. FTPing files might not sound like a lot of fun but once you actually break down and make yourself do it, it's easy as pie. It's easier than connecting to dial up internet and loading and retrieving files. Anyways, that's just my opinion which I'm entitled to but others are obviously entitled to their's as well.

[Sph1nx]

I know absoulutesly nothing about xbox... but I noticed one of you posted above that the xbox ftp login is xbox /xbox.


Does the system run a ftp like this by defualt? Or is it part of the updated bois or whatever that is installed?

I'm assuming it's the later.

[NE146]

I know absoulutesly nothing about xbox... but I noticed one of you posted above that the xbox ftp login is xbox /xbox.


Does the system run a ftp like this by defualt? Or is it part of the updated bois or whatever that is installed?

I'm assuming it's the later.

Sorta... FTP functionality is built in to the "dashboard" called Evolution-X that many modded xboxes run in lieu of the original Microsoft Dashboard. The original dashboard remains available if you want it, but evox starts up by default as it has more functionality including of course.. the FTP.

[Arcade Antics]

Sliding this one over to the Emulation forum...

>>>SLIDE, DiMAGGIO, SLIDE!<<<

[Flack]

Anthony, let us know how helpful that information was. If so, I may try and sticky it or at least add it to one of the stickied topics and try and preserve the links.

[Anthony1]

I was wondering if I could do this...

Could I put the emulator and the roms on a blank DVD and then install them onto the XBOX that way?

The reason I ask, is because I can take my XBOX games and put them onto the hard drive. I know how to do that. In a similar way can I take a blank DVD disc and put the SNES emulator on it, and all the SNES roms and then put it onto the XBOX?

It's just I don't have any experience with FTP, and I think it would be an easier deal for me to just put the emulator onto a blank DVD and put the roms on there, and then put it onto the XBOX.

Of course, if this is possible, I still really woudn't exactly how to put it onto the XBOX, in terms of what folder and stuff like that, but I would imagine that it would just be an easier process for me, then doing the FTP thing, and dealing with a router and all that stuff.

[NE146]

I was wondering if I could do this...

Could I put the emulator and the roms on a blank DVD and then install them onto the XBOX that way?

The reason I ask, is because I can take my XBOX games and put them onto the hard drive. I know how to do that. In a similar way can I take a blank DVD disc and put the SNES emulator on it, and all the SNES roms and then put it onto the XBOX?

:roll: Do you even read what people reply to you? :P


Step 5: deciding on a method for transferring files.
If you are familiar with the capabilities of your modified xbox, this should not be a mystery to you. But if you are not, then here’s a quick walkthrough. To transfer files to your xbox, you have two options:

1. Connect your xbox to your pc by network or crossover cable, and FTP files over to your HD. For more information on how to set up your xbox for FTP connection, please refer to these tutorials.
On the PC side, you’ll need an FTP program. There are a lot of different programs out there, some free and some not. For a selection of freeware FTP clients, see NONAGS freeware archive, or use you favourite FTP client.

2. Burn files on CD-RW or DVD, and use boXplorer (or other xbox file manager) to copy content to your HD. To read more see here and here.

[ddockery]

If you just try FTPing, it will make life a lot easier so you don't have to burn a disc every time you want a new version of an emulator or rom. It really is easy to do, my Mom can use FTP programs, and she's scared she'll break the PC just reading email.

[nesuser2]

Well you really shouldn't be scared to FTP, it's easier than easy and much easier than the DVD Idea since it's hard to place files in the right spot through the xbox and move them around. To FTP in a few simple steps...

I use flashfxp, it works the best for me:

Connect your pc and your xbox: use a crossover cable for direct connection or you can plug your xbox and your pc into a router or hub or switch using straight cables(aka patch cables) for both

Open your FTP client

Turn on your xbox

Look on your evox dashboard and it will display the IP address in the information box.

Go to your ftp and select connect and a drop down menu with pop down and choose quick connect. It will have a bunch of blanks and you only need to fill in the IP, the username and password which are both "xbox" and it should default to port 21.

Click connect. It should verify and load right up to all of your drives on your xbox. A list of folders is what it looks like. I think my Games and Emulators are stored on drive F and you just open up F and put them in the emulators folder and then everything is in. If you don't have an emulators selection in your evox menu and you don't want to figure out how to make one, you can find the directory that you find your games in and dump the folders for the emulators in there and then your emulators will be listed with you games. From that point you just run the emulator and the rest can be left unsaid, you just have to roam around until you figure out all the bells and whistles.

Hope this helps a little and it should be listed on that website but it's here now I suppose.

[SirDrexl]

First things first: Anthony1, do you have a NIC (network interface card) in your PC?

[TheSmirk]

as a new XBOX owner, I've been reading thru the tutorials at xbox scene, but its always good to hear some first hand opinions and advice on what works and whats a pain.....good thread! Thanks!

[digitalpress]

I'm very late to the Xbox emulation party but I found this thread to be really informative - I'm going to give it a whirl.

Since the thread is a year old, does anyone want to add to it? Looks like everything covered so far is still relevent.

[AB Positive]

www.xbox-scene.com

invaluable source for anything/everything you could do with a modbox. Also helps you actually *find* the emulators in question.


-AG

[Vectorman0]

http://www.xbins.org/index.php

There channel on EFNet, and FlashFXP/or you preffered FTP application is one of the best/easiest ways to get acess to just about all of the programs out there.

[nesuser2]

Slap the BIGGEST drive you can in that bad boy. I have a 120 in mine and it's just insufficient. Why would you need so much storage you may wonder. Can you say Xbox Media Center? Ever have files on your computer that just don't seem to ever make it to the big screen conveniently? Now they do, FTP baby! I have some tv episodes that I downloaded in divx format and we all know that the divx format looks great but it's a pain to get on a dvd, svcd, or vcd and retain any of the excellent quality. On xbox media center, I would rate them as looking better as my digital cable :D

I think all the good info is here, or it should be anyways. If you get in the middle and need some pointers, I'm always here to pitch in when I can. If I can't get it, I believe Flack was going at this recently and he's computer savvy as well. Good luck with the mod, it's a dreamcast with wings!

[NE146]

I'm very late to the Xbox emulation party but I found this thread to be really informative - I'm going to give it a whirl.

Since the thread is a year old, does anyone want to add to it? Looks like everything covered so far is still relevent.

Only thing I'd add is these days there are lots more Dashboard options available with a more functionality than old Evolution-X. Many people these days prefer UnleashX or Avalaunch amongst others. There are also more tools available.

As far as emulators go. Once you understand how to get files onto your xbox's hard drive, it simply becomes a matter of getting the emulators, putting them on the xbox and letting it rip. That being said, there are also several all-in-one dvd's that people have compiled (the famous "Big Ass Emulator" Discs 1-4 for example) that are available. These have emulators and hand picked roms all nicely packaged that you can either play direct off the dvd, or even copy them to the hard drive if you want roms and all.

Definitely get the latest build of Xbox Media Center on there as well. You'll be amazed.

[GaijinPunch]

I'm going to throw my money out there.

While X-box emulation is really cool, it's far inferior to emulating on the PC. I've not played my emulators on the Xbox in quite some time, but from what I remember, very few of them had any effects to counter the Xbox's inability to display low-res graphics (eg scanlines). Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Second point -- Mame emulation is VERY limited. Last I checked, about 8 months ago, they were more interested in doing a perfect port of mame, rather than making more games play (using virtual memory and whatnot). This mean that with each new release, fewer games would work due to the Xbox's Ram limitations.

I think the best way is to get a downstep convert and output from your PC to your TV. You don't have the problems that Anthony has gotten into, on "how to transfer to your Xbox".

Don't get me wrong, it's a cool novelty, and very nice to just power up the emulation machine... but it just wore out on me.

[dj898]

I use Xbox for NeoGeo and CPS2 emulations and I have no complaint...
nothing beats playing my all time fav MetalSlug while sitting on the couch with wireless pad on 42" screen... he he

for MAME though I use PC since it's not perfect on xbox and old games look funny...

[Richter]

Definitely get the latest build of Xbox Media Center on there as well. You'll be amazed.ownage there, love it so much that it's my dashboard

[Mr Mort]

I was wondering if I could do this...

Could I put the emulator and the roms on a blank DVD and then install them onto the XBOX that way?

You can't do that if you're running EvoX as your dashboard. If you're using a newer dash like UnleashX, you can put the disc with the emulators & roms in the drive and use a file browser that's built-in the dashboard to copy them to your HD.

Honestly though, just FTP it, it is NOT hard. Just get FlashFXP, it's very simple to use, and the instruction listed on xbox-scene.com are easy to read even for beginners.


I downloaded the roms to every 8, and 16-bit games I own, in addition to a bunch of Neo-Geo and CPS2 games, and the emulation is amazing, especially with KawaX.

Also, Xbox Media Center is amazing. Literally transforms your Xbox into a media center, the only thing it's missing is a Tivo-like function.

[NE146]

Yeah Mame on the pc is better.. but it's generally pretty redundant to tell that to anyone... because let's face the fact: Everyone and their brother with an xbox already has a pc(s) with mame on it for years and knows it. Mameox a just a delicious addition :) It's also still light years away from the Dreamcast ports of Mame which was the only console mame port prior to Mame-X and MameOX. :)

That being said, I love mameox... it works GREAT for most all pre-84 games (provided it works in regular mame).. which of course for an oldy like me is exactly what I'm looking for. It's great playing Zookeeper or Donkey Kong while lying on the couch 8-)

[digitalpress]

You can't do that if you're running EvoX as your dashboard. If you're using a newer dash like UnleashX, you can put the disc with the emulators & roms in the drive and use a file browser that's built-in the dashboard to copy them to your HD.

I plan on going the FTP route but I cannot even FIND UnleashX. The site hasn't been updated since December and their "files" link is broken. What gives?

[Mr Mort]

You can't do that if you're running EvoX as your dashboard. If you're using a newer dash like UnleashX, you can put the disc with the emulators & roms in the drive and use a file browser that's built-in the dashboard to copy them to your HD.

I plan on going the FTP route but I cannot even FIND UnleashX. The site hasn't been updated since December and their "files" link is broken. What gives?

You can't find UnleashX where? If you're refering to xbox-scene.com, they won't have a link because it was made with using Microsoft code, which was illegally hacked/obtained.

[jonjandran]

I have it here if you need it Joe.

http://www.wavetel.us/~jonjandran/unleashx_0_37_1218a.rar

I'll leave it up for a while.

If you need nything else just give me a shout.

[Anthony1]

way back when I started this thread, I couldn't get any emulators on my XBOX, and I was having problems FTP'ing to my XBOX.

But then NesUser2 helped me out big time, and he basically guided me through on how to get things working, and I was able to FTP to my XBOX and get all the emulators up and running and stuff like that.


Now, I'm back to having another problem. Once again, no matter what I do, I can't seem to FTP to my XBOX.

I've tried tons and tons of things to get this working, but it just won't happen for me. I don't understand it. I took the XBOX over to this guy's house, and he FTP'd to it in a couple of seconds, with no problems. But when I try it at my house it just won't work. Something is wrong with my PC.

Last time I FTP'd to my XBOX, I had Windows ME, now I have XP. There is something conflicting with something, and it won't allow me to renew my IP address. You know when you go in the Comand Promt, and you type "ipconfig /release" ?


it gives me this response: An error occured while releasing interface Local Area Connection 2 : The system cannot find the file specified.


I was also getting error messages talking about "can't contact DHCP server" stuff like that.

Anyways, I can't get me Network card to work, I reinstalled it, and done all kinds of stuff, and it says it's working, but then it says that it's working with "limited capabilities".


Something weird is going on. I'm fearing that I'm going to have to re-install XP, and I don't want to do that. I've got stuff that I don't want to erase, and I don't want to mess with trying to back it all up correctly.

Anybody got any ideas?


Hey, anybody got a cell phone plan where you get free long distance? If you are a PC Networking expert, and you are familar with connecting to a XBOX, and using FlashFXP, I would love to have you attempt to walk me through correcting this.

PM me, and I'll give you my number. I would greatly appreciate if somehow a miracle can happen, and I can FTP to my XBOX again.

[Anthony1]

Ok, now I screwed up my PC real bad. I was messing around with the command prompt, trying to get it to release and renew my IP.

I must of did something that screwed it up major, because now I can't get anything.

The only way I can fix it, it terms of being able to use my PC and FTP to my Xbox is if I reload XP. I don't want to do that.

Now, I've heard that you can use various "File Managers" and you can actually put a disk in your XBOX and pull files off of the disk and put them on your hard drive.

Well, I tried this out. One disk that I have has tons and tons of MP3 songs on it. I put it in there, and it started to automatically play the songs. Then I went into file manager, and I could look at all the files on the disk. I tried to put a couple of the MP3's into a folder on my XBOX that already had a couple of MP3's in it, but for some reason it just wouldn't work. I kept getting error messages.

I would put the MP3's in the que, and then try to copy them to the file that had the MP3's but I would get an error message.

The same thing happened with a disk of emulators and roms that I had. I tried to transfer some emulators into a folder that already had emulators in it, but I kept getting a "malloc error" whatever the heck that means.

It's very frustrating, because I can actually view the files of these disks on my XBOX with File Manager, but for some reason no matter what I do, I can't copy the files into any of the files already on my XBOX.

I must be doing something wrong.


Any suggestions anybody?

[nesuser2]

Anthony, the sky isn't falling. What isn't working in windows xp? If you can't renew your ip, then it could be as simple as a bad network card or something. I wouldn't know anything of the file managers though, never really used any...I'm sure somebody can step in here somewheres though.

[Anthony1]

Anthony, the sky isn't falling. What isn't working in windows xp? If you can't renew your ip, then it could be as simple as a bad network card or something. I wouldn't know anything of the file managers though, never really used any...I'm sure somebody can step in here somewheres though.


As far as my PC goes, the only way I can use it, is if I reinstall XP, and I don't want to do that right now. I have too many loose ends floating around on my Hard Drive, and I just don't want to erase everything or worry about backup up all the right things.

In my attempts to get the thing working, I've screwed some stuff up. I was messing around with the command prompt, trying some different things out, and I ended up screwing things up real bad.

The only way that I can correct it, is with a re-install of the operating system.



But there are ways to get things on your XBOX, even if you don't have a PC. At least, I've heard there are ways. I just need to figure out how the heck to do it.

[Nature Boy]

Any suggestions anybody?

Somebody mentioned earlier in the thread that you can't copy/use roms straight from a disc if you are running the wrong OS. So it's possible that you're doing nothing wrong, it's just that you can't do what you want to do.

As for your PC problems I'm zero help. Sorry.

I will say that I just got my Xbox modded very recently, and with XP (and FileZilla) had very little trouble FTPing to it. I foolishly tried to FTP using Windows Explorer itself and it never would let me connect properly. For future modders, don't bother trying that route!

[The_EniGma]

Indeed this is a whirl im part of 2 dev teams

But why the hell dont u use FTP?

Try loading on xbmc or avalaunch, better than evox and more features. As for booting it off a disc you need to make sure u have raw files at set rom and media paths in the inis to D:\roms media whatever.

Also rename the lalal.xbe to default.xbe then burn at 4X to a CDRW. Make sure you use the ISO with qwix

As for the emulation power of the xbox its played almost every rom ive thrown at it, including the full neogeo MVS library

Have fun!

[The_EniGma]

You can't do that if you're running EvoX as your dashboard. If you're using a newer dash like UnleashX, you can put the disc with the emulators & roms in the drive and use a file browser that's built-in the dashboard to copy them to your HD.

I plan on going the FTP route but I cannot even FIND UnleashX. The site hasn't been updated since December and their "files" link is broken. What gives?



You need to use xbins, XDK compiled things ARENT on the site. Try xbins (tutorial on xbox-scene) If ythinks ou need more help setting it up drop me a pm

[nesuser2]

Indeed this is a whirl im part of 2 dev teams

But why the hell dont u use FTP?

Try loading on xbmc or avalaunch, better than evox and more features. As for booting it off a disc you need to make sure u have raw files at set rom and media paths in the inis to D:\roms media whatever.

Also rename the lalal.xbe to default.xbe then burn at 4X to a CDRW. Make sure you use the ISO with qwix

As for the emulation power of the xbox its played almost every rom ive thrown at it, including the full neogeo MVS library

Have fun!

He doesn't want to boot off a disc, or atleast not the matter currently at hand. He just wants to be able to get files to his xbox by putting a cd in and copying the files. Unless I missed something...

[ddockery]

Anthony, what makes you so sure that you'd have to reinstall XP? I'm guessing that this is definitely not the case. If you're having problems getting an IP it's most likely a bad setting under network in control panel, or something mucked up on the router. Anything that could be acomplished with a re-install could also be fixed through other means, but you have to give details. Whatever you did, it can be undone. Hell, probably just running a repair windows from the XP install would do it.

Also, if you did re-install XP, you wouldn't have to erase anything like you alluded to in your last post. You can easily re-install without formatting the drive and blowing everything away.

[nesuser2]

You can easily re-install without formatting the drive and blowing everything away.

This man speaks the truth but I don't agree with this. It's possible, but man is it ugly when performed. You can't mess up very much in command prompt..honestly..

[Anthony1]

Anthony, what makes you so sure that you'd have to reinstall XP? I'm guessing that this is definitely not the case. If you're having problems getting an IP it's most likely a bad setting under network in control panel, or something mucked up on the router.


Believe me, I've tried everything. The way that I screwed up my computer is because I was messing around with netsh commands on the command prompt. I've been told that if you do the wrong netsh commands in the command prompt, you can end up deleting certain files that are crucial, and the only way to get those files back is by reinstalling XP.


Let me give you a little example. Ok, I go to my Command Prompt, and I enter ipconfig /release, and this is what it says:

"The operation failed as no adapter is in the state permissable for this operation"


And I was doing some other thing in the command prompt and it kept saying "file cannot be located".

Stuff like that. Then I did some reading on some of these error messages, and some people that have had the same error message could only fix it with a reinstall of the operating system.


Now it's actually to the point where my PC doesn't even see the Network Card that's is in there. This is after I did one of the netsh commands. I try to add new hardware, and it won't even see it then. I've tried several network cards in there, so it can't be the network card.

I've tried both with a router and without a router.


The thing is, I'm not very good with PC crap anyways. I'm at the bare minimum in terms of PC related skills. So at this point, it just seems like I'm wasting my time trying to do it this way.

If I could borrow a friends PC, that isn't having any of these weird IP issues, I'm sure that I could use it fine. I have FTP'd to my XBOX before. Of course, that was before I installed XP on my System. Back then I had Windows ME.

[Anthony1]

He doesn't want to boot off a disc, or atleast not the matter currently at hand. He just wants to be able to get files to his xbox by putting a cd in and copying the files. Unless I missed something...


Exactly. I know it's much more crude to try to get files off of a CDRW or DVD-R, and then put them onto the XBOX hard drive, but right now, that's the easiest way for me to do it.


I have two modded XBOX's right now, and my goal is to have all the best emulators, and all the various roms on each of them, and to have them running smoothly.

On one of the XBOX's I have a N64 emulator and GBA emulator running smoothly, and I would like to get those on my other XBOX. I would also like to add more roms to some of the emulators.

I would also like to add some MP3's to one of my XBOX's, because it will actually play a song in the background when you first fire it up, which is pretty cool.


But mainly, I'm just trying to get all my emulators and roms squared away, so they are all working properly. That is the main goal.

[ddockery]

You can easily re-install without formatting the drive and blowing everything away.

This man speaks the truth but I don't agree with this. It's possible, but man is it ugly when performed. You can't mess up very much in command prompt..honestly..

I agree it's ugly, but it will usually get things back into a working state. From there you can do what you need, and them back things up and re-install properly when there's time for it.