"the full Sega"

[christianscott27]

a question/concept for my fellow completists-

sega is no longer making consoles, from the master system to the DC, its been a good run. a collector could now set the goal of having a full sega collection, all the games for every system sega produced. for US collecting purposes that would be-

master system
genesis
32x
sega CD
saturn
dreamcast
game gear
and i guess pico...

granted each system has its rares but taken one at a time only the genny collection seems really, really hard to complete. i know lots of you are working on near complete collections for a few of these platforms but is anybody close to the "full sega"? DP, you'd be my first guess?

as for me i guess i must be at least 1/3 of the way to a full sega, for some reason this seems like a neat goal to chase. i've thought about it and only sega seems to really fit. a "full atari" would be fairly easy on every platform except for the 2600 where unlicenesed games abound. a full nintendo is moving target, i guess you could do a full turbo...

[Jorpho]

Chasing after all those obscure Duo, PC-FX, and SuperGrafx games would not be easy.

[Keir]

I think a complete Game Gear collection would be really hard if only because it's not as well documented as, say, Genesis.

If I were going for a full Sega (I'm not) I would probably include the Mega LD games for Laseractive. I know it's not a Sega system, but it does use Sega hardware and it would make the full Sega that much cooler. :)

If I were so ambitious to go for a full anything, I agree that Sega would be the best. I'd like to say Commodore, but to keep it realistic I'd have to exclude disk and cassette games and that just wouldn't feel full.

[hydr0x]

i have plans to do so in the future, currently already working hard on Dreamcast and 32X, also getting some Mega CD and Saturn games per month and a md or sms game once in a while (currently trying to get all australian-exclusives so i don't have to work on those at the end)

as you might have noticed i'm going for PAL ;)

i think i'll exclude Pico and Game Gear though, i just want the pure gaming consoles, i don't collect handhelds at all :(

[GaijinPunch]

I just don't think it's fair to go "full Sega" and not go Japanese.... too many wicked import only games.

[The Insomniac]

I'd say that getting the entire Master System and 32X US Releases is a pretty realistic goal. As for the whole Sega, would you want to include the Japanese SG-1000, SC-3000, and Mark-III consoles?

[Ed Oscuro]

I don't think it's right to butcher the English language in such a fashion (there's such a thing as a "full Monty," but an acronym for Service Games doesn't lend itself to that use nicely...), or to say that Sega doesn't make hardware anymore.

Whatever you wanna do to boast that you've got more games, if it works for you.

I say wasting money on all those crappy third party titles instead of saving up for a Sega ST-V is a crime, though.

[den68]

"full Sega" hmmm, nope that term doesn't bother me.

for US releases only I'm over half way there on all except the Game Gear and SMS I think.

gotta love all those crappy 3rd party titles!

[Ed Oscuro]

I'd say that getting the entire Master System and 32X US Releases is a pretty realistic goal. As for the whole Sega, would you want to include the Japanese SG-1000, SC-3000, and Mark-III consoles?
Hey now...that's territory for Raccoon Lad and myself, BACK OFF! LOL

[Arcade Antics]

I don't think it's right to butcher the English language in such a fashion (there's such a thing as a "full Monty," but an acronym for Service Games doesn't lend itself to that use nicely...)

Huh? x_x


or to say that Sega doesn't make hardware anymore.

They don't. Source: Sega.

[Ed Oscuro]

I don't think it's right to butcher the English language in such a fashion (there's such a thing as a "full Monty," but an acronym for Service Games doesn't lend itself to that use nicely...)

Huh? x_x
Hey, if it doesn't get under anybody else's skin, that's A-OK. I still not going to love it.



or to say that Sega doesn't make hardware anymore.

They don't. Source: Sega.
NEWSFLASH: Sega is selling the Dreamcast again. Looks like your source is outdated, bub ;)

Another thing I mentioned is the ST-V - there's no reason (besides space, since money is no object) that a collector shouldn't consider getting one of their game-swappable systems...now if somebody wants to get a complete collection for whatever reason, that's fine, but I just like to keep poking and remind people there's more out there than just the crappy U.S. home console releases.

[christianscott27]

far be it from me to set anybody's collecting parameters but for this topic i was just looking at US releases, since thats where i live. i dig my import stuff but thats really setting the bar high. i didnt run the term "full sega" past the Ed-itor, i was thinking more of "full circle" than "full monty" :P

anyways...like i said before, many of you talk about complete or near complete DC, SMS, 32x and sega CD collections but i never hear about anyone being close on the genny, gamegear or saturn. somebody must be getting up there, with all the collectors here.

and hey if complete collections isnt your thing thats cool, but thats what this thread is about so lets not have that whole playing vs collecting debate.

wonder how many total games a full sega (US) would be?

[Arcturius]

NEWSFLASH: Sega is selling the Dreamcast again. Looks like your source is outdated, bub ;)

Actually they aren't MAKING new Dreamcasts they are selling reconditioned ones. Sega have offically ceased production of all new Hardware.

[Ed Oscuro]

far be it from me to set anybody's collecting parameters but for this topic i was just looking at US releases, since thats where i live. i dig my import stuff but thats really setting the bar high. i didnt run the term "full sega" past the Ed-itor, i was thinking more of "full circle" than "full monty" :P
Hey, I'm just being a bit crotchety. It does set this topic apart, so how can that be bad? I just have some odd dislikes.

As for whether Sega is done...well...again, just another crusade to get diverted on.

The main thing stopping me from trying to get a complete Sega collection is that I'd rather spend my money on getting different consoles, better games. It's nice to have it all together, but it's just going to be broken up someday anyways, sold at far less than true value, or maybe given to a lucky, committed relative after one dies, and then they have to face all the same questions =/

I really don't have anything against folks who can support THIS sort of collecting, but for kids who are starting collection (such as myself), is it really a good influence? You can sit there and let your jaw hit the floor every 30 seconds looking at some of the stuff individual eBay sellers are auctioning...going after stuff with a really wide, scattershot approach is really bad on the wallet. So is the stuff I buy, but I try to stay focused.

In any case, I'm sorry for being a black cloud over an otherwise pretty interesting topic. I do have my reasons, though :)

[hydr0x]

NEWSFLASH: Sega is selling the Dreamcast again. Looks like your source is outdated, bub ;)

Actually they aren't MAKING new Dreamcasts they are selling reconditioned ones. Sega have offically ceased production of all new Hardware.

exactly what i was going to say...

[Arcade Antics]

NEWSFLASH: Sega is selling the Dreamcast again. Looks like your source is outdated, bub ;)

NEWSFLASH: Selling is not the same as producing. Or as you said earlier, make[ing new] hardware. :)

Also wondering how Sega is an outdated source on Sega? You'd think they'd be the foremost authority... LOL

[Drexel923]

anyways...like i said before, many of you talk about complete or near complete DC, SMS, 32x and sega CD collections but i never hear about anyone being close on the genny, gamegear or saturn. somebody must be getting up there, with all the collectors here.

Joe does indeed have a complete genesis collection to go along with his complete CD, 32X, and Pico...not sure about the other ones though.

Genesis (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19467&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=genesis)

Pico (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30814&highlight=genesis)

32X (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19339&highlight=genesis)

Sega CD (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13465&highlight=genesis)

I'd say he's the closest.

[Ed Oscuro]

NEWSFLASH: Sega is selling the Dreamcast again. Looks like your source is outdated, bub ;)

NEWSFLASH: Selling is not the same as producing. Or as you said earlier, make hardware. :)

Also wondering how Sega is an outdated source on Sega? You'd think they'd be the foremost authority... LOL
The new-model Dreamcasts are not playable of playing burned discs (or those produced in a fashion like Good Deal Games makes them). Yet the new, or as you say, "refurbished" units cannot play such discs.

Looks to me like a [i]lot of work is going into "refurbishing" these units to be saying that they don't "make hardware" anymore.

Where do we draw the line? A new shell? A new motherboard??? I doubt they're being "refurbished" by simply soldering on a new chip. What about the box? It's also possible that they have all the parts (besides the obviously updated BIOS/software that disallows using burned discs) but didn't actually assemble the pieces. They likely can handle the refurbs with their current staff...but the capability to manufacture hardware remains, and what's more they ARE doing some amount of work on them, even if it's as simple as uploading new data to a flash BIOS.

So yes, they aren't building these from scratch, but they continue to "evolve their line." They continue (as far as I know) to "support" the Sega Pico. All that this amounts to is that the statement "they don't make hardware anymore" is not quite as cut-and-dried as it looks.

[Arcade Antics]

The new-model Dreamcasts are not playable of playing burned discs (or those produced in a fashion like Good Deal Games makes them). Yet the new, or as you say, "refurbished" units cannot play such discs.

I didn't say they were refurbished. I just said that they no longer make hardware. And they don't.


Looks to me like a lot of work is going into "refurbishing" these units to be saying that they don't "make hardware" anymore.

Where do we draw the line? A new shell? A new motherboard??? I doubt they're being "refurbished" by simply soldering on a new chip. What about the box? It's also possible that they have all the parts (besides the obviously updated BIOS/software that disallows using burned discs) but didn't actually assemble the pieces. They likely can handle the refurbs with their current staff...but the capability to manufacture hardware remains, and what's more they ARE doing some amount of work on them, even if it's as simple as uploading new data to a flash BIOS.

I dunno why you'd want to split hairs, but everyone understands that "no new hardware" means "no new consoles" from Sega. They're done.


So yes, they aren't building these from scratch, but they continue to "evolve their line." They continue (as far as I know) to "support" the Sega Pico. All that this amounts to is that the statement "they don't make hardware anymore" is not quite as cut-and-dried as it looks.

I guess if you want to go that far, you could begin to make a weak case for it, but the fact remains that no new Dreamcasts are being manufactured. No new Picos are being manufactured. Sega no longer makes any consoles, period. :hmm: *shrugs*

[Ed Oscuro]

The new-model Dreamcasts are not playable of playing burned discs (or those produced in a fashion like Good Deal Games makes them). Yet the new, or as you say, "refurbished" units cannot play such discs.

I didn't say they were refurbished. I just said that they no longer make hardware. And they don't.
Don't get me wrong, I'm working off your post with the assumption you're right about parts, but at the same time I feel that they do make stuff, and in good quantities.

If these Dreamcasts are not refurbished, they could be new old stock. The problem with saying that they're just old inventory Sega never sold off is a pretty big one: the new Dreamcasts (so Good Deal Games and others have said they believe) are probably newer-model. Now that I think about this it could be simply that they had a lot of new-model Dreamcasts in their inventory, and for whatever reason I didn't consider that possiblity.

It would be nice to find out for sure, but you've got the better argument and I'm almost certainly wrong here. Can't say I never tried, though :P

[classicb]

The Genesis has really become my favorite system to collect for. The plastic cases I think make it more attractive to collect for than say the SNES. This also makes it easier to find complete games (although I've heard stores like funcoland threw away hundreds of cases when they started selling used ones to save on space). I'm no where near a complete set and I have no idea how many games are out there for it but I think if I was going to try and complete a system this would be the system I would go for.

[EnemyZero]

Im workin on my full sega collection, i have for 2 years now, and right now im working on my import saturn collection, no sega collection can be complete with out saturn or dc imports since 3/4's of the systems games never made it here, and theres a helluva lotta god ones...

[Parodius]

In the back of the excellent book Sega Consumer History there is an epic spreadsheet with every title ever released for a Sega system in Japan, including the Dreamcast. 2100 games in all!!!!
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There was a guy on the old Edge forum that had a complete set of all the Japanese Megadrive games. considering how unpopular the system was in Japan and how low some of the later production runs were it is truly an amazing feat.

It is the system with the most $100+ titles (bar the NeoGeo AES).

[Daria]

Heh, considering my collection is RPG only my full sega goal isn't all that hard to pull off. Especially since at the moment I'm only interested in english games... although I can think a few chinese mega drive games that would be sweet to just have.

GameGear's the easiest though. 3 RPGs in America. 9 in Japan. Just need a couple boxes and I'm done. :P
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[Barbarianoutkast85]

Ive been working on a complete Sega Genesis collection since May 2003 I have 209 games. And I have some of the "rarer" games on the DP guide.