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SoulBlazer
04-02-2004, 11:11 AM
Okay, I thought maybe I'd make up for being in such a bad mood yesterday and share all of this information with everyone here, since no one has really mentioned it (at least as far as I can tell).

How many people have played Star Control II for either the PC or the 3DO? Well, IT'S BACK! :D

What is this game, you ask? Well, the Ur-Quan Masters is a remake of the 3DO (and PC) version of Star Control II, a space based, science-fiction, action/adventure/simulation game. You play a young captain controling a alien starship in the year 2155 and trying to solve a huge mystery and a even bigger problem. You fly around from system to system, mining for minerals, talking to other aliens, engaging in ship fights, and trying to solve mysteries. It's similar to the Starflight games, but larger and better. There just is'nt anything else out there like it! 8-)

Some of you may know I've always been as much of a PC gamer as I am a console gamer. That's why, as soon as SC II came out in 1992, I bought it with all the allowance and work money that a 16 year old could have. I'd played the original (on the Genesis) but knew this game was nothing like that one, and it was'nt. It blew me away. One of the best months I can recall playing anything.

Fast forward six years and with the purchase of my new computer the game would'nt work anymore. I was told that a remake of the game had been released for the 3DO, so I went out and bought a used system JUST for that game. And although I got other games, that was the shining star of my collection for that system, and brought all the memories back.

Okay, some basic history here, and please skip over this if I'm borring you -- Star Control II is a unofficial sequel to Star Control, which was originaly released for the PC and Genesis back in 1990. It was created by Fred Ford and Paul Reiche III, who had several other successfull games (Archon, Mail Order Monsters, the Horde) and released by Accolade.

Where as the original game was a simple strategy and great melee game, Star Control II is a little of a lot of stuff. It's part adventure, part RPG, part action, and part simulation. The graphics and the music were cutting edge for 1992, and it was a very large disc based game.

The remake for the 3DO was released in 1995 and included voices, remixed music from the original game, and a few other new options.

Now, the current project. Fred and Paul regained the rights to their game back in 2002 and started a quest to re-release the game, to help gamers to experience and play this wonderfull game again. The original, being a DOS based game, does not play well, if at all, on current systems. Accolade has long since been asorbed by Atari and they still hold the rights to the name Star Control, but everything else was in the hands of Toys for Bob, the company that Fred and Paul run. Since the PC code had been lost, they started to port the 3DO game to the modern PC.

Last month, version 0.3 came out, and even though I had been playing and testing the game a year before then, I wanted to wait to plug this great game on here until the current build was MOSTLY stable. And it is -- about 99 percent of the time, I'd say.

I can't rave enough about how GREAT this game is. The new version of the build also now has THREE music options -- you can listen to the original, the enhanced 3DO, or BRAND NEW remixes. The game is challenging without being downright difficult, there is plenty of humor, and the game is VERY open ended. Yes, there are things to do, but it does'nt matter what order you do them in! The ship to ship fights are pure fun, especily if you have a friend over.

(Yes, there was a Star Control III that continued the story of the series, but it was'nt made by Fred and Paul and is a average game at best.)

You NEED to check this game out. You'll thank me later. ;) And I'd especily love to hear about your experiences, if it was your first time playing or not, and any bugs or crashes you may have experienced (though at this stage that should be few and far between.)

Now -- the LINKS!

Okay, the official download page:

http://sc2.sourceforge.net/downloads.html

You can download the game in all flavors here, people -- Windows, Mac, AND Liunx! Happy days! :-P

From this page you can also download 'optional' packs. These are NOT needed but if you want some of the new stuff (such as the brand new remixes to the classic music) you'll need to do so. It's easy to set up.

Now, you can PLAY the game as is. HOWEVER, since this is still a BETA, most of the options are controled by command line options. Yuck! :P

So I highly suggest downloading this LAUNCHER as well:

http://www.spacesynth.net/markvera/uqm-loader/uqmloader-1.1.zip

Unzip it in the same directory where you install the game and launch it instead of the game. You can set and customize all the options from there.

Now, the game has a WONDERFULL story, and you can read the entire manual that came with the original game here:

http://www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol/sc2/sc2_hist.shtml

The readme file that comes with the game has a little of the story, but the more you know going IN, the more you'll enjoy the game. :D

Plus, being a beta, the intro and ending cinmeas are NOT YET installed. Don't fret! You can view them here:

Original PC intro: http://www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol/sc2/sc2open.shtml

Original 3DO intro:
http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/classicgaming/starcontrol/3do_video/sc2_3do_open.zip

Original 3DO ending:
http://www.fileplanet.com/dl.aspx?/classicgaming/starcontrol/3do_video/sc2_3do_end.zip

And finally, I'd be remiss without mentioning the great site that HAS many of these files -- the Pages of Now and Forever:

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~starcontrol/

Okay! Try to resist the temption to grab a walkthrough if you get stuck! I'd be more then happy to give hints, and there's a also a UVS file that would do the same thing.

I WILL offer, however, some advice, based on my own experience:

1) There IS a time limit in the game. When the game starts, you have roughly FOUR YEARS before the game ends due to major events. There IS a quest you can do that will give you a extra year. It's plenty of time to finish the game, unless you screw up badly like I did my first time. :P

2) Take the advice of the Starbase Commander and spend some time mining nearby planets before you start working on the game's quests. I normaly do three cargo hauls myself (3-4 holds on the ship). Don't bother with hostile planets -- you can come back later -- and stun and grab all the life that you can as well.

3) TAKE NOTES! Write down everything important as you work your way through the game.

4) If you suck at the ship combat, turn on the computer and let it fight for you. It does a decent job.

5) If you can't figure something out, vist your allies and ask them for information or if anything is new. Often times they give hints and information that may be just what you need.

6) I suggest making your first upgrades to your mother ships some thrusters and turning jets, as well as cargo pods, and a extra fuel tank and crew pod. Later you can customise your ship as you see fit. Some people prefer to make it a pure warship, but I don't see the need for that with all the other ships you can gain for your fleet.

That's it! Let me know how you make out guys -- and if I can borrow, with his permission, Joe's famous tagline, GAME ON! :D

jgenotte
04-02-2004, 01:44 PM
Wow, I love(d) this game too, but you are over the top man. Nice work. I cant wait do downlad and play it again.

-james

Jorpho
04-02-2004, 03:48 PM
I downloaded one of the earlier alphas a while back and appended it to my disturbingly lengthy "To Play" list.

Perhaps it is time to dig it up. Is there any way of knowing what files have changed between the currently available content and voice packages and the ones I downloaded before? (The content is only 12 MB, but it would be a bit of a pain to download that giant voice pack again.)

SoulBlazer
04-03-2004, 03:12 PM
Well, according to the Ur-Quan page, due to the vast number of changes that were made between the last beta version and this one, you'll need to dowload the whole file again and then go from there. Sorry.

Lets get some more replies here, people! :D I don't often annoit a game into my personal 'Greatest Top 10 of ALL TIME' list. ;)

Jibbajaba
04-04-2004, 02:16 PM
I agree that Star Control II belongs in the top 10 list. I played it back when it came out on computer, and I was actively searching for a good deal on a 3DO so I could play the game again without having to set up my DOS box, when I ran across this wonderful piece of freeware. Foranyone who has played this game before and loved it, you should definitely download this and relive some memories, and to anyone who has never played SC2, download it and get ready to play one of the best games of all time.

Butterbroetchen
08-23-2005, 06:29 AM
Wow this great I have started playing using the freeware and I'm loving it :)
This game is also one of my all time favs and I am finding out why all over again!

The links for the intro files for the 3DO version on file planet do not work :( can any body tell where else I can get these?

That would be Great!

Thanks and have fun :)

Jorpho
08-23-2005, 08:22 AM
Oh, the files are there. You have to log in first, though.

Word is that the current version of UQM still doesn't have the bit that tells you your time is limited, which is something of a game-breaker. (ref. http://uqm.stack.nl/wiki/Star_Control_II_Gameplay_FAQ - looks spoiler-free to me.)

qbertandernie
08-23-2005, 08:39 AM
definately worth everyones time to play this game!

i still dust off the ol' 3DO now and then, but seem to play only this game. i think you kind of need the map packaged with the game for the full experience though. mines tattered as hell.

googlefest1
08-23-2005, 08:41 AM
awsome - one of my favorite games

is the final version going to be sold? - i dont want to mess with any betas if there is going to be a final retail version

i used to have this game on PC and lost it and i patiently waited to get a good deal on the 3do version and got it but never set up the system to play it

i quickly read through the original post so i may have missed this -- have they changed anything? is this just a technical upgrade?

i probably would still like to find the PC DOS version - i usualy like the originals best

but this is great - mabey if it catches on - people will start selling thier older version on ebay and ill finaly be able to get another copy

roushimsx
08-23-2005, 09:36 AM
is the final version going to be sold? - i dont want to mess with any betas if there is going to be a final retail version

No, it's an open source / freeware project.

This is one of the few games I have installed on my Powerbook and I play it all the time (even though I suck). Between this and the Privateer remake, there's not much else I really need on the go :)

googlefest1
02-07-2006, 08:25 AM
i finaly checked out this website - and its confusing to me as to what kind of changes have been made

are the graphics just spruced up? or have some of them been totaly changed

i saw that there are remixes of the music - has the music from the original game been replaced ?

basicaly im trying to find out how much of the original game is still intact?

Jibbajaba
02-07-2006, 11:06 AM
i finaly checked out this website - and its confusing to me as to what kind of changes have been made

are the graphics just spruced up? or have some of them been totaly changed

i saw that there are remixes of the music - has the music from the original game been replaced ?

basicaly im trying to find out how much of the original game is still intact?

AFAIK all of that stuff is optional. When I played through it, I don't remember there being any changes. You get get remixed music and put it into the game, and you can also use the 3DO version of the sounds and whatnot, but you don't have to. Unless things have changed...

Chris

Jorpho
02-07-2006, 11:18 AM
By the way, Version 0.5.0 was just released.

nik
02-07-2006, 12:20 PM
Played the beta about a year or so ago, very cool memories, I checked out some planets I couldn't get to before!

Slimedog
02-07-2006, 02:32 PM
Did they redo the voices from the 3DO version? I hope not since I generally use that game as an example of the way voice work should be done. It added so much personality to the alien races. Yeah, SC2 is in my top 5 of all time.

FantasiaWHT
02-07-2006, 02:50 PM
sounds cool! Gonna have to check this out, thanks

scorch56
02-09-2006, 08:37 AM
i probably would still like to find the PC DOS version - i usualy like the originals best

but this is great - mabey if it catches on - people will start selling thier older version on ebay and ill finaly be able to get another copy

The PC DOS version of SCII can probably be found on eBay. The original release was most likely boxed and on floppies as I recall. May be a bit hard to find though.

Another more common way to get your hands on this game again is to look for a copy of "The Ultimate Sci-Fi Collection" released by SegaSoft and Starhill Productions in 1996. It is a two CD set containing: Spaceward Ho!; SC I; SC II; Millenia - Altered Destinies; star Crusader & Iron Helix.