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charitycasegreg
04-10-2004, 08:00 PM
AH.. I won 4 complete nes games off ebay a couple weeks ago. It came out to about $6.00. Then the seller charges 4.99 on shipping. I think its ok. I get the item today and the shipping charege said 2.26. At first I think, maybe delivery confirmation, bubble wrap, or insurance. But nope, none of those. Then I went to open the box and it was halfway open! It was a shoebox, taped with scotch tape that had every peice ripped except for 3. It was terrible. Luckily the games were nice condition. The I sent her this email,

Dear dbovard,

Why did you charge me 4.99 on shipping if the package it came in said 2.26?! You
used an old shoe box, scotch tape and newspaper as packaging... Wheres the other
2.73? I HATE it when ebay sellers are dishonest on shipping costs. Plus when the
mail man game me the package, the scotch tape all along 1 side was ripped. That was
by far the worst packaging job EVER. With that 2.26 I could have bought a hot dog
and some fries. Please get back to me.

Griking
04-10-2004, 09:31 PM
The shipper said that he was charging $4.99 for shipping. He never said that was how much shipping cost him. If he said $4.99 in his auction and you agreed to his terms by bidding on it then you have no arguement. Besides, I don't find $5.00 to be unreasonable.

KirbyStar27
04-10-2004, 10:56 PM
Shipping prices are beggining to be crazy. MOstly everybody jacks up their prices!

Daria
04-10-2004, 11:56 PM
I recently sold some genesis games on ebay. And not really knowing what actually shipping costs were checked out a few similar auctions. $5.00 was pretty much standard for a boxed game and $3.50 for a cartridge.

Course when I actually went to mail them shipping was a lot cheaper. I felt kinda bad after the fact, but at least I used plenty of bubble wrap and packaging tape.
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charitycasegreg
04-11-2004, 12:26 AM
The shipper said that he was charging $4.99 for shipping. He never said that was how much shipping cost him. If he said $4.99 in his auction and you agreed to his terms by bidding on it then you have no arguement. Besides, I don't find $5.00 to be unreasonable.

Its still cheap but he didnt have to overcharge me just because he didnt get enough for the item.

Sniderman
04-11-2004, 01:22 AM
OK, here's a rule of thumb I use that will save you - and others - many headaches. NEVER ASSUME THAT A HIGH SHIPPING PRICE = PRIORITY SHIPPING/INSURANCE/ OR OTHER AMMENITIES!!!

If the auction says "$4.00 for shipping," do NOT assume it'll go via Priority unless the auction says "Priority Mail Shipping." If the auction says "$10 shipping," do NOT assume that it'll be crated up with insurance and tracking and other stuff. If it's unclear how it will be shipped, write to the seller and ask. If he doesn't reply, don't bid. If he tells the truth ("I'll charge $5, but I'll ship it Parcel Post in a padded envelope.") , don't bid. If he lies, neg his ass.

It sucks for you right now. Yes, I agree. But you never asked. You assumed. And, yes, it is your responsibility to find out. In ALL of my auctions, I state "Shipping will be $4 (Priority Mail plus Delivery Confirmation)" or "Shipping will be $2 (First Class in a padded envelope)" or "Shipping charges will be actual totals based on Priority Mail shipping of a 4 pound box from zip code 44907 to your zip (please provide and I'll figure out your total."

If you're bidding when how it's being shipped isn't clear, you have no recourse when your new-in-box Stadium Events arrives in a padded envelope when you paid $20 for shipping.

Cmosfm
04-11-2004, 01:42 AM
You haven't been on ebay long have you? Your lucky you didn't get charged 10.00 shipping, like most people will do.

You have to learn to suck it up and deal with it, because the seller will not refund you any money nor does the seller care because "shipping was listed" and "it's shipping AND handling".

esquire
04-11-2004, 02:00 AM
I don't even care any more when someone charges an extra dollar or two for shipping. I look at it as a handling charge. Don't forget sellers have to take their time and material to package the items they sell. When you sell a lot this can eat up a lot of time, packaging materials, etc.

I don't mean to rain on your parade, but we are only talking about a couple of bucks. It's not like he charged you $10 like Cmosfn stated.

charitycasegreg
04-11-2004, 03:33 AM
I don't even care any more when someone charges an extra dollar or two for shipping. I look at it as a handling charge. Don't forget sellers have to take their time and material to package the items they sell. When you sell a lot this can eat up a lot of time, packaging materials, etc.

I don't mean to rain on your parade, but we are only talking about a couple of bucks. It's not like he charged you $10 like Cmosfn stated.

Did you even read how I said he packaged it? He used scotch tape, a shoe box, and newspaper. It couldnt have taken him more than 5 minutes to package. Im not too angry or anything but he did rip me off 2.00. I could have got 2 more nes games with that money. :-P

jonjandran
04-11-2004, 09:55 AM
You're lucky.

I just got a package in the mail WITH NOTHING IN IT !!!

The bottom fell out because the seller didn't tape it .
And the Post Office shoved the newspaper packing back in it but decided to keep the GBA and 11 Games.

They wrapped it back up with their "This packaged arrived damaged and was re-packaged by the USPS " tape and sent it anyway.

I know the stuff was in the box originally because the price for shipping was $7.50 and the empty box would of only cost about $3 to ship.

Damn Post Office. Now what do I do ? With no Insurance the Post Office won't refund the money. And the seller actually did ship the item, although he could have at least taped it. :angry:

I'm sick of Ebay. :o

charitycasegreg
04-11-2004, 02:09 PM
You're lucky.

I just got a package in the mail WITH NOTHING IN IT !!!

The bottom fell out because the seller didn't tape it .
And the Post Office shoved the newspaper packing back in it but decided to keep the GBA and 11 Games.

They wrapped it back up with their "This packaged arrived damaged and was re-packaged by the USPS " tape and sent it anyway.

I know the stuff was in the box originally because the price for shipping was $7.50 and the empty box would of only cost about $3 to ship.

Damn Post Office. Now what do I do ? With no Insurance the Post Office won't refund the money. And the seller actually did ship the item, although he could have at least taped it. :angry:

I'm sick of Ebay. :o

That sucks. I know mine was decent because the price was still good and the stuff actually got to me safely. He emailed me back apologizing and I emailed hime telling him I understand and its still and good deal and I left him positive feedback. That sucks for you though. How would it of got pen unless it was packaged badly?

BHvrd
04-11-2004, 03:10 PM
I agree with Sniderman. I always state "priority shipping w/insurance included". I see no reason why people shouldn't get insurance so I always include it unless they say they don't want it "which most do".

Nothing worse than an auction that has "buyer will pay all shipping costs", just to find out that shipping is like $20 for a $4 package.

I also agree that someone who charges a dollar or two doesn't bother me either, "though I don't do it", but on occasion if i'm not sure about the actual cost "bigger packages", I will just charge a flat rate.

Sounds like the charge of shipping you got wasn't the problem, but the packaging. Packaging is a pet peeve of mine also, but as long as the merchandise is fine, then I can let it go, but it is unprofessional, and I would most probably never buy from them again.

lym
04-11-2004, 04:10 PM
Did you even read how I said he packaged it? He used scotch tape, a shoe box, and newspaper.

You're lucky you got all that, I received a game the other day that was just wrapped in printer paper!

charitycasegreg
04-11-2004, 06:40 PM
Did you even read how I said he packaged it? He used scotch tape, a shoe box, and newspaper.

You're lucky you got all that, I received a game the other day that was just wrapped in printer paper!

ah! for what system?

SoulBlazer
04-11-2004, 09:20 PM
Shipping pisses me off also -- one reason I sell 99 percent of my stuff (and buy) from Amazon. You get one low price for media mail and a higher price option for Priorty. And if I'm slow in getting something to the post office within the two days I'm susposed to mail, I'll send it First Class or Priorty to make up for it. With EBay I know to ask exactly how something will be shipped and what way.

lym
04-12-2004, 05:52 AM
Did you even read how I said he packaged it? He used scotch tape, a shoe box, and newspaper.

You're lucky you got all that, I received a game the other day that was just wrapped in printer paper!

ah! for what system?

For the master system.

anagrama
04-13-2004, 06:34 AM
So, you paid $4.99 shipping (what's that, about £2.80?) for 4 boxed games that arrived in nice condition? Sounds like a pretty good deal to me - a lot of sellers will try to charge that for 1 game.
Yeah, they should have been packed better, but there was no harm done at the end of the day, and I'm sure there's many worse shipping stories than that. And it's just petty to get in a strop over $2.26.

charitycasegreg
04-13-2004, 10:30 PM
So, you paid $4.99 shipping (what's that, about £2.80?) for 4 boxed games that arrived in nice condition? Sounds like a pretty good deal to me - a lot of sellers will try to charge that for 1 game.
Yeah, they should have been packed better, but there was no harm done at the end of the day, and I'm sure there's many worse shipping stories than that. And it's just petty to get in a strop over $2.26.

Maybe you should have read all my posts on this page before replying. ;)

"I know mine was decent because the price was still good and the stuff actually got to me safely."
"Its still cheap but he didnt have to overcharge me just because he didnt get enough for the item."

anagrama
04-14-2004, 09:08 AM
Maybe you should have read all my posts on this page before replying. ;)

"I know mine was decent because the price was still good and the stuff actually got to me safely."
"Its still cheap but he didnt have to overcharge me just because he didnt get enough for the item."

Then why start a thread entitled "Another bad shipping story" to complain about it then? Why send the seller a pissed-off email complaining about it?

And I did read the whole thread, thanks. Still sounds like a storm in a teacup to me.

v1rich
04-14-2004, 10:36 AM
Sounds like a bad case of "Shipping Rage" to me. Getting angry for having to spend an extra $2 that you knew about already before you bought the item. I charged $20 for shipping SNES systems on Half.com. When someone asked me about it, I said "add the total price of the item + the shipping, if that is too much for you don't buy it." To me, if the seller is selling an item and explicitly states "Shipping will be $20" then I will consider that when I bid and pay that amount. If the shipping is not specified and they try to charge me $20 or $25 I will negotiate it with them. And I have negotiated it down almost every time in that case, in fact I can't remember a time when that has not worked.

One time, someone was complaining about the cost of packaging, I said look, go to wal-mart and get one of their extra boxes from their stocking boys, and just throw all the games and the system in there and tape it up real good Maybe ball up some newspaper to fill the box and provide some cushioning. Just wrap the system itself in a little bubble wrap and it will be ok. That brought the shipping down from $25 to $17. Not bad and it held up fine in the shipping. Ha ha. Took a little risk there but I had received stuff packaged that way before (by poor packing sellers) with no problems so I was willing to take it.

As for poor packaging, that is another story entirely from the shipping cost and if the stuff was damaged or in danger of being lost in shipping, the that is grounds for negative feedback or a partial refund in my opinion. Packaging is a very important part of the buying process.

Vic

charitycasegreg
04-15-2004, 02:50 PM
Sounds like a bad case of "Shipping Rage" to me. Getting angry for having to spend an extra $2 that you knew about already before you bought the item. I charged $20 for shipping SNES systems on Half.com. When someone asked me about it, I said "add the total price of the item + the shipping, if that is too much for you don't buy it." To me, if the seller is selling an item and explicitly states "Shipping will be $20" then I will consider that when I bid and pay that amount. If the shipping is not specified and they try to charge me $20 or $25 I will negotiate it with them. And I have negotiated it down almost every time in that case, in fact I can't remember a time when that has not worked.

One time, someone was complaining about the cost of packaging, I said look, go to wal-mart and get one of their extra boxes from their stocking boys, and just throw all the games and the system in there and tape it up real good Maybe ball up some newspaper to fill the box and provide some cushioning. Just wrap the system itself in a little bubble wrap and it will be ok. That brought the shipping down from $25 to $17. Not bad and it held up fine in the shipping. Ha ha. Took a little risk there but I had received stuff packaged that way before (by poor packing sellers) with no problems so I was willing to take it.

As for poor packaging, that is another story entirely from the shipping cost and if the stuff was damaged or in danger of being lost in shipping, the that is grounds for negative feedback or a partial refund in my opinion. Packaging is a very important part of the buying process.

Vic

Well its because he said priority of 4.99 though he sent it media for 2.26 in a shitty falling apart box. Its not like its that bad of a deal. I gave him positive since it was still cheap and items were in great condition. I was angry when I first posted this. As you read down to my 3rd or forth post I say its still a good deal and Im happy. End of story.