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optic_85
04-27-2004, 09:46 PM
I was searching around overnet, and found this word doc about getting your saturn to play backups. I havent tried it yet, and am hesitant, but has anyony here heard of this?

Here is the doc:

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Tinkering around with my Saturn one day, I discovered a particularly strange orange screw mounted on the laser unit. Logically, being a tinkerer and part time techie, my first reaction was that the screw controlled the power or intensity of the laser beam. I was struggling in my head to find a use for this (why would it be there?) and was enlightened. I had remembered that CD-RWs required a stronger laser intensity than a typical pressed disc or CD-R.

Naturally, I whipped out a Philips-head and gave it a 3/4 turn. Now, I needed a game to test... so I burned a copy of the first disc of 'D'. It was close by, so I burnt it. Also, if you are unfamiliar with 'D', it is an FMV game. I also figured that maybe it would be more of a test for the laser because of the data streaming.

Lo and behold, it worked! Of course, I was excited to say the least. I tried it with different games, and they worked as well.

So to sum up, here is a nice ordered list of instructions in case you aren't perceptive enough to pick them out of the above text:

1) Open your Saturn
2) Turn the unit so that the back is facing you
3) Locate an *orange* (how could you miss it?) screw on the back of the laser unit
4) Give it a slight turn (25-30 degrees should do it)
5) Test with a Saturn game written on CD-RW
6) Turn the screw left a little and try the disc again
7) Repeat steps 5 and 6 until you have the minimum amount of power to use a CD-RW

And there you have it. This mod will come in handy if you want to make Saturn demos/games and don't have a PAR cart and PC card. Maybe in the future I'll write a doc on how to make a proper Saturn ISO, if you're interested in that sort of thing.

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ManekiNeko
04-27-2004, 09:48 PM
Wait a minute... is this for real?

JR

dreamcaster
04-27-2004, 09:53 PM
I was searching around overnet, and found this word doc about getting your saturn to play backups. I havent tried it yet, and am hesitant, but has anyony here heard of this?

I've heard of the laser being adjusted to read badly scratched discs, or worn lasers that don't pick up data well anymore.

I'm not game to try it on either of my Saturn's as they run perfectly and I don't feel compelled to play 'backups' on them.

maxlords
04-27-2004, 10:04 PM
That's a great idea...until you burn out the laser on your Saturn. That screw controls the intensity, and if you turn it that far, you'll be overpowering the laser and you'll burn it out quick. Not a wise choice. Never skimp...if it was that easy, more people would do it...trust me on this one.

Do NOT try that if you want to have a Saturn for a long time!

BHvrd
04-27-2004, 10:09 PM
Never tried this method myself, I just taped down the cd lid switch, and do the swap trick on my Model 1. It's easy enough so i'm not even going to try this method as it may damage something.

My Model 2 is a different story though. It's so hard to do the swap trick on there "near impossible", that I may try trick on that one. I'll have to read up on this more first though.

Daria
04-27-2004, 10:09 PM
Does it work with CD-Rs?

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jonjandran
04-27-2004, 10:12 PM
How could this possibly work.

The bios will still look for the special info on the disc to verify that it is a "legit" Saturn disc.

Why would turning up the laser power affect the ant-piracy built into a Saturn. :hmm: IT WOULDN'T .....

This is complete and total BULL !!!!

You have to disable the bios or trick it with the swap method. There is no other way. :roll:

Maybe he's just talking about making your Saturn read cd-rw's if you already have a mod-chip.

optic_85
04-27-2004, 10:22 PM
ya' know reading it again....I think that it is just to play CD-RWs on an already modded saturn....That's the only way i can make sense out of it...

Kamino
04-27-2004, 10:23 PM
yeah i think this is one of those guys who likes to trick morons into wrecking their stuff...kind of like hoax viruses for pc.......
joke's on whoever tries it.

Daria
04-27-2004, 11:36 PM
ya' know reading it again....I think that it is just to play CD-RWs on an already modded saturn....That's the only way i can make sense out of it...

That would make more sense... also would explain why it excludes CD-Rs.
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maxlords
04-28-2004, 12:16 AM
That would make more sense....turning up the intensity shouldn't bypass the region lockout. However, if your Saturn is modded, this would also be unnecessary, as the mod chip allows you to play CDRs. The only thing turning up the intesity does is fix problems with disc reads if your Saturn is havfing trouble reading the disc. And doing it WILL burn out the laser. Better off cleaning the laser.

dj898
04-28-2004, 12:51 AM
you know there were couple of development saturn that runs CD-R. Of course I'm talking about the devlopment saturn so it's of little use to most of us.

the development saturn I have has the switch at the side to reset the region and it doesn't care whether the disc it's reading from is legit or CD-R since it was one of test machine to run CD-R copy of in-progress title... and I assum it would be easier for them to burn into normal CD-R rather than Sega's Saturn CD-R blank. you can still get Sega blank CD-R complete with the security ring if you know the source... :)

cheers

dj898
04-28-2004, 12:51 AM
you know there were couple of development saturn that runs CD-R. Of course I'm talking about the development saturn so it's of little use to most of us.

the development saturn I have has the switch at the side to reset the region and it doesn't care whether the disc it's reading from is legit or CD-R since it was one of test machine to run CD-R copy of in-progress title... and I assume it would be easier for them to burn into normal CD-R rather than Sega's Saturn CD-R blank. you can still get Sega blank CD-R complete with the security ring if you know the source... :)

cheers

Epicenter
04-28-2004, 08:24 AM
The document never said anything about running games without a mod chip or the swap trick .. just that your system could then read CD-RWs when it could ordinarily only read CD-Rs. I heard of a similar modification to the Dreamcast. You must've misinterpreted it.

omnedon
04-28-2004, 10:05 AM
Adjusting that laser pot should only be done when the laser will still not read original discs, after a cleaning.

Like maxlords said, it is shortening the use life of the laser. The smaller the adjustment, the better. There is no way a pot adjust can affect the reading the encrypted ring.

It's good fix for an already non functional laser, but that's it.

digitalpress
04-28-2004, 10:51 AM
>> moved to tech forum <<