News on Nintendo DS: Over 100 Companies showing Support

[NintendoMan]

HEY EVERYONE,
Just thought I'd show you guys some more news on the DS, if you already haven't seen it. It's on how many companies are showing support for the DS. I am very glad to hear this! I mean I will be getting a DS even if Nintendo is the ONLY one making games, but seeing that other companies are getting excited about this as well makes me very happy.

Here's the LINK:
http://cube.ign.com/articles/511/511949p1.html

I don't know, I am just tired of hearing people compare this to the virtual boy and how bad it will suck. I know the handheld isn't even out yet and who knows it could be the worst system sales ever OR the best and highest selling system ever. (I know no matter what I will like it, I have NEVER disliked one Nintendo product) But that's only speaking for me. So they have guaranteed one sold. I am going to reserve mine once they are in the local Babbage's computer.
So, just wanted to show everyone who might have missed this that there is alot of support for this. To me, so far everything looks up for this product.

CAN'T wait for E3 in a couple of days to FINALLY see a picture of this mystery product!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D

[RetroYoungen]

OK, calm on down there... it's an interesting idea, but so was the Virtual Boy. It's a step in a different direction, hence why people are seeing it as gimmicky.

A hundred developers. I'd like to see the products before I pass any more judgement than I already have. I'd really like to see what SquareEnix is planning for the little two-screened machine. It will be interesting to see how the final product will work out. I won't be pre-ordering, not just yet, as I'm still saving my pesos for that NES-controller style SP and a brand spankin' new copy of The Legend of Zelda... I might even get around to beating it this time! LOL

[portnoyd]

Support != game development

[Flack]

Very interesting! I can only assume that these companies have more information about the DS than we have. Maybe there are more dual-screen possibilities than we've been able to come up with!

[SoulBlazer]

Seeing this in action at E3 is going to answer a lot of questions that everyone has about the system and games.

[Jasoco]

What day is E3? Is that the 11th or something? I'm not good with dates and can't remember the E3 web site. What is it?

[Flack]

http://www.e3expo.com/e3expo

[ManekiNeko]

I think it's hilarious the way that people constantly complain about bad camera angles... then turn around and gripe that a system with two screens is a bad idea. Two seperate viewpoints could make 3D games much more intuitive and easier to play.

JR

[goatdan]

Hunh, 100 companies. That's about half of what Atari had for the Jaguar and we all know how great of a system that was!

I don't want to be negative, but saying they will do something and actually doing it are two different things. We'll have to wait and see how many of these companies are actually pumping out the software.

[Dan Iacovelli]

Hunh, 100 companies. That's about half of what Atari had for the Jaguar and we all know how great of a system that was!

I don't want to be negative, but saying they will do something and actually doing it are two different things. We'll have to wait and see how many of these companies are actually pumping out the software.

my words extacly Dan.
atari had close to 50 developers for the jag, and half of them dropped out.
so don't hold your breath until the games are actualkly made.

[NintendoMan]

Hunh, 100 companies. That's about half of what Atari had for the Jaguar and we all know how great of a system that was!

I don't want to be negative, but saying they will do something and actually doing it are two different things. We'll have to wait and see how many of these companies are actually pumping out the software.

my words extacly Dan.
atari had close to 50 developers for the jag, and half of them dropped out.
so don't hold your breath until the games are actualkly made.


Oh yeah, I know just because they might have possible developers that really doesn't mean shit. You have to wait until an actual developer makes an actual game that actually comes out. What it does mean to me is that there could be more games than I had thought before. I know there hasn't mean much info on it yet, but for the most part things that I HAVE HEARD or read about was not very much support yet from other developers. :)

[NintendoMan]

Support != game development

And yes, more support will equal more games.
(Kinda like how xbox + ps2 have way more games out than the best system out now, the Gamecube)

[NintendoMan]

A hundred developers. I'd like to see the products before I pass any more judgement than I already have. I'd really like to see what SquareEnix is planning for the little two-screened machine. It will be interesting to see how the final product will work out. I won't be pre-ordering, not just yet, as I'm still saving my pesos for that NES-controller style SP and a brand spankin' new copy of The Legend of Zelda... I might even get around to beating it this time! LOL

Well, at least you hopefully will have enough time to save up enough for a DS if you want one. The retro SP comes out in June and the DS in the FALL. I just saved up enough pesos for my NES SP along with 4 games:
(Zelda, SMB, DK, Excitebike)
Wooooooooooo Hoooooooo, can't wait!

[Charlie]

I think the DS is a cool concept and I can't wait to see what it looks like.

That said, I think they would be better off using their resources to come up with a new Gameboy. With Sony now looking to overtake them on the only profitable front they've had for a decade, I would worry about something a lot less gimmicky then the DS.

Nintendo is bleeding dollars right now. I don't see the DS putting an end to this. Unless it highly portable and plays Gamecube games, which this thing will not be able to do.

[Sibs]

Only time will tell what will happen with the DS and Nintendo's future in general.

[ManekiNeko]

That said, I think they would be better off using their resources to come up with a new Gameboy. With Sony now looking to overtake them on the only profitable front they've had for a decade, I would worry about something a lot less gimmicky then the DS.

All right, that's it. I'm throwing down the glove NOW.

(slap)

Heed me well, ladies and gentlemen, for I am to make a prediction that will either make me look like a genius... or a fool. The PSP will be Sony's first undeniable failure in the video game market. Despite their strong third party support, despite their popularity, despite their rabidly loyal fans, and despite their exceptional marketing skills, Sony will not be able to dominate the handheld market with the PSP. The system will be too expensive to produce, and Sony's reputation for making faulty, unreliable hardware will not be tolerated by fans of handheld systems, who need a console which can withstand the abuse that often comes with frequent travel.

The PSP will bomb. And you can quote me on that.

JR

[Jasoco]

Nintendo is bleeding dollars right now. I don't see the DS putting an end to this. Unless it highly portable and plays Gamecube games, which this thing will not be able to do.Though it'd be god damn cool. And I'd be first in god damn line on release day.

Well.. Only a few more days.

So, do they reveal all the stuff on the 11th?

[whoisKeel]

I think one of the major factors in the success of the original gameboy was the fact that it was around for such a long time. It took them what...7 years or so to come out with gameboy color, and they were still pumping games out for the old monochrome. When the gameboy advance hit the shelves, this trust was taken into consideration...many consumers were expecting the handheld to last for 10 years.

I just don't think the general public will readily accect a new handheld so quickly. They want their gba to last. Not that nintendo will discontinue support for the gba. Moms and dads probably don't mind shelling out cash for a new console every 5 years, but i think handhelds fall into a different catagory. And with the sp released after everyone already bought an old gba, i think nintendo should be careful...consumers may be weary.

all of this is my own speculation of course, i just think it is too soon for another nintendo handheld (although i find the dual-screen very interesting). i just hope the dsp comes off as something new and exciting, instead of desperate for profit. i'm not trying to down-talk nintendo (in fact i like them) so don't attack me :)

[NintendoMan]

That said, I think they would be better off using their resources to come up with a new Gameboy. With Sony now looking to overtake them on the only profitable front they've had for a decade, I would worry about something a lot less gimmicky then the DS.

Nintendo is bleeding dollars right now. I don't see the DS putting an end to this.

Well, Nintendo is not exactly bleeding dollars right now! Yeah, they haven't been rolling in money like they used to, very far from, but according to last quarters results in sales, Gamecube came in second-well nintendo said they did- with of course ps2 coming in first, and xbox last.
In the past, well I would say 6-10 months they have been doing really good and alot of that is due to the gamecube price drop though. As well as all the qulaity titles they put out, but there is defiantely a drought right know in newly released gamecube games, nothing good is out now.
But that does leave me money to buy all the older releases that I missed.

And the "NEW" gameboy is already in development supposedly. I have read a number of times that as soon as the GB SP came out, they were already working on a new gameboy. From a few things I have read, I wouldn't be surprised if it came out in 2-3 years.

And they are not making the DS to put in end to all the money problems. They are making it to have another handheld on the market thats more innovative and new. Thats what nintendo does.
I mean yeah its a business, and they want to make money, but I don't think they are planning on this bringing them back to #1, or maybe they are? Who knows?
:D

[NintendoMan]

That said, I think they would be better off using their resources to come up with a new Gameboy. With Sony now looking to overtake them on the only profitable front they've had for a decade, I would worry about something a lot less gimmicky then the DS.

Heed me well, ladies and gentlemen, for I am to make a prediction that will either make me look like a genius... or a fool. The PSP will be Sony's first undeniable failure in the video game market. Despite their strong third party support, despite their popularity, despite their rabidly loyal fans, and despite their exceptional marketing skills, Sony will not be able to dominate the handheld market with the PSP. The system will be too expensive to produce, and Sony's reputation for making faulty, unreliable hardware will not be tolerated by fans of handheld systems, who need a console which can withstand the abuse that often comes with frequent travel.

The PSP will bomb. And you can quote me on that.

JR

Yes, I think as well, the psp might not bomb but will come in #2 to nintendo. It might do alright when first released then sales will drop and drop and drop until they leave the market like everyone else did they tried to take on the gameboy. Here are a couple of reasons the psp will not do good, in my opinion:

1.
Everyone I know that has a ps2 is just a casual gamer that plays sports games pretty much only. Everyone that I know that is a "true gamer" has a gamecube. (One has an xbox, that idiot) I try to get those same guys to play other games that aren't sports, like adventures, rpgs, action, etc.
So do you think those same guys are going to shell out $299 for a PSP that portable, FUCK NO!!!! All the people that owns PS2's that I know don't even know what a PSP is!
Now I am not saying that there aren't any "true gamers" that own ps2's, but would boldly go and say at least 30-50% of people that own ps2's only bought one because of them being brainwashed and thinking it's the only system not for kids. (I can't stand it when people say the gamecube is for kids)

2.
Alot of people bought PS2's because they have internet capability, I mean online play, it plays cds and dvd's, and it's somehow an older persons system.
There is alot of people I know that just bought a ps2 because it's a dvd player as well, so they figured I might as well spend a $150 on a ps2 than $150 on just a dvd player.
So what I am just saying is that it is too expensive and no one will want it pretty much that is in the ps2 audience. Like I said just too expensive, and not enough people who give a shit about handheld systems!
There is just not enough buyers out there that will want the psp like they do for the ps2!

My prediction is that the PSP will bomb!

(I never really thought too much about this until I posted it, I was kinda of worried for nintendo's sake that the psp would dominate until I took a look at the facts) But I guess we'll see what happens early next year when the psp is released?

[thegreatescape]

I Dont mean to be a wet blanket or anything, but your first point lacks substance and reaks of fanboyism. :roll:

Personally, until I see pictures of the system and 2 screens in use, its too gimmicky for my liking. Its also probably too early to tell if the PSP is gonna flop, as sony still have a long time to add more to it and because of the limited information theyve released about it they could really take the psp in any direction they want (or feel the market wants).

thats my take anyway..

EDIT: maybe not so limited (http://psp.ign.com/articles/512/512195p1.html), but my comment about them having time to change things stands.

[Chooky]

Did anyone see <A HREF=http://www.forbes.com/execpicks/newswire/2004/05/07/rtr1363263.html/>this Reuters arcticle?</A> It gives out a few more details regarding the DS:

>Industry insiders have said one of the screens will be a touch panel. "This will not be a machine where you push the 'A' button or 'B' button and move the direction pad, but a completely different way to interact with the device," said Hirokazu Hamamura, president of "Famitsu" game magazine publisher EnterBrain.

Sounds sweet!

Also, to that guy who said Nintendo was bleeding money - I'll never understand why people think that just because Nintendo doesn't have the top selling console, they must be going broke. Look at the facts and you will see that Nintendo has only spent one half of a year in the red since they went public in '62. They may not be on top, but they're certainly not going down.

And remember, people, the DS is not meant to be a replacement for the GBASP.

OK, time to end this disjointed post. ;)

[NintendoMan]

I Dont mean to be a wet blanket or anything, but your first point lacks substance and reaks of fanboyism. :roll:

Personally, until I see pictures of the system and 2 screens in use, its too gimmicky for my liking. Its also probably too early to tell if the PSP is gonna flop, as sony still have a long time to add more to it and because of the limited information theyve released about it they could really take the psp in any direction they want (or feel the market wants).

thats my take anyway..

EDIT: maybe not so limited (http://psp.ign.com/articles/512/512195p1.html), but my comment about them having time to change things stands.

Well I will always have fanboyism towards Nintendo, ALWAYS! So I will give you that.
Sorry if it looks like that in the statment, but all I am trying to say is that the same 20 people I know that own PS2's, will GUARANTEED not be getting a PSP.

[NintendoMan]

Also, to that guy who said Nintendo was bleeding money - I'll never understand why people think that just because Nintendo doesn't have the top selling console, they must be going broke. Look at the facts and you will see that Nintendo has only spent one half of a year in the red since they went public in '62. They may not be on top, but they're certainly not going down.

And remember, people, the DS is not meant to be a replacement for the GBASP. quote]

I hear that, too many people think nintendo is going under. Sure there not making the kabillion dollars they were making, and not #1 at the moment, but they are not bleeding money. And yes, there first loss was at one quarter last year.

Nintendo is sitting on a 3 billion dollar reserve. Which i think that means that nintendo has 3 billion in the bank or something when times get rough, don't know for sure?
You hear that 3 BILLION!!!!!!!!!!!

[Captain Wrong]

Support != game development

See also: Dreamcast.

Everyone is so hung up on the hardware aspect, but what I wanna know is where's the games? I keep hearing everyone say "oh, well I'm sure Nintendo has something great up their sleeve" but I've heard the same thing with regards to the eReader and the whole GC/GBA interconnectivity thing. These were supposed to be so revloutionary but to the best of my knowledge, only Nintendo supports those features and they haven't shown anything that either coudn't have been done through a more conventional way or was even close to being something other than a gimmick.

I just wonder if Nintendo is going to force third parties to make DS games if they wanna keep making GBA games like they forced Square to make a GC game to continue making GBA games. (Where was the "outrage" over that? If that had been Sony, we'd still be hearing about it.) Given the lukewarm relationship between Nintendo and the third parties, I'd say that's about the only way they're going to get some non-Nintendo games on the DS. I certaintly wouldn't risk it.

Personally, I'd just like someone to make a handheld that A) is designed for someone with hands larger than a 6 year old's and B) actually has games I want to play. (As much as I like Pinball of the Dead, it'd be nice to actually to use the GBA for something else once in a while.) Thought I'm willing to give Nintendo and this DS a chance, their track record as of late has been pretty lousy in my eyes on both counts.

[NintendoMan]

Isn't that the truth. That Nintendo needs to make something that is made for people with bigger hands than a 6 year old. And something with better games. And really, the only GB games that I own are the remakes, like, Super Mario Advances, etc. But I do own alot of those. (Remakes)

[SoulBlazer]

Well, I have a lot of games I play on my GBA SP -- the Metroid games, the Advance War games, the Golden Sun games, Mario and Luigi, Tactics Orge, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, Lunar Legend, Gradius Galaxies, Madden 2004, the three Castlevania games -- I could go on. ;)

But yes, I'm also quite sure that Nintendo is working on the next generation of Game Boy.

[NintendoMan]

Well, I have a lot of games I play on my GBA SP -- the Metroid games, the Advance War games, the Golden Sun games, Mario and Luigi, Tactics Orge, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, Lunar Legend, Gradius Galaxies, Madden 2004, the three Castlevania games -- I could go on. ;)

But yes, I'm also quite sure that Nintendo is working on the next generation of Game Boy.

Oh, I am not saying AT ALL that there are no good games for the GBA. There are shitloads. I mean i do have FFT Advance, all 3 Castlevanias, and Mario + Luigi, and both Metroids. I guess I would say I am just partial to the platformer type remakes of the marios which I play all the time.
I can think of countless games that are good for the GBA. It's just I am not into most of them. There are also spectacular rpg's, except RPG's aren't really my thing. :D