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vintagegamecrazy
05-20-2004, 04:00 PM
Another new topic.
Channel F
Studio II
Game.com
R Zone
Gamate
Action Max
32X
VIS
Arcadia 2001
GameBoy Color
any more.
No clones.
My list is of systems are systems that are low quality themselves. I didn't list systems that are capable of so much but had bad games. Thats your choice. A good example is the arcadia 2001, good specs just never used at all.
Anyone have any more for the running.
Sniderman
05-20-2004, 04:08 PM
My guess is that the Game.Com will walk away with this. Other systems not mentioned that will be:
- Virtual Boy (I love this system, but there are too many "blinding headache" sissies who were supposedly crippled by the set-up...)
- N-Gage (Do I even have to comment?)
- Sega 32X (Some Ok games, but just an incredibly stupid set-up. Pay as much as you would for a new system, hook it up to a system you should have already, uses yet another big-ass power adapter, and God forbid you're missing a cable of the interference sheilds...)
Raccoon Lad
05-20-2004, 04:22 PM
I 'dunno, I think the N-gage can turn around it's image a good deal with the decently priced (and no-longer taco shaped) N-gage2.
And I'll throw in the 7800. 7800's kinda borderline though, as it woulda been a powerhouse for 1984, but ended up as the wimpiest offering of 1986.
Jibbajaba
05-20-2004, 05:18 PM
WEll ive never played some of the systems that people are mentioning, so I can only say that of the systems that I have experience with, the N-Gage and the Atari Jaguar are the worst.
ubersaurus
05-20-2004, 05:35 PM
All your lists are wrong, for the omission of the Vis. Seriously. You can't even comprehend the level of GARBAGE that exists on there. At least the N-Gage has Rayman and Tomb Raider 1. The Vis has...Compton's Encyclopedia, and the King James bible.
My list goes:
Vis by a landslide
R-Zone
CD-I
Studio II
Arcadia 2001
christianscott27
05-20-2004, 05:49 PM
action max!
ManekiNeko
05-20-2004, 06:05 PM
Let's see... I'd nominate the game.com, Emerson Arcadia, Sega 32X, Game Boy Color, and the Magnavox VIZ for this category.
JR
Kid Ice
05-20-2004, 06:44 PM
Since I still haven't played one that works the right way in 20 years I'd have to say the 5200.
(holds ears to drown out chorus of boos)
frodo2968
05-20-2004, 07:28 PM
What's with the Game Boy Color being on 2 of these lists? I don't care for it, but that's because I don't really like handhelds...anyhow, it really wasn't that bad, definitely better than Original GB and GB Pocket...sure, it's not as good as the Advances, but it was made well before them too...
y-bot
05-20-2004, 07:41 PM
I love Channel F, Studio II and Arcadia 2001. I think the Sega CD is pretty bad although maybe there are some good games I haven't played. Action Max is real bad too. I bought both of those systems new and was very dissapointed.
y-bot
ubersaurus
05-20-2004, 07:41 PM
I'm not sure...the GBC had a number of great games, like the Dragon Warriors, Azure Dreams, Pokemon GS, Super Mario Bros. Deluxe, Yars Revenge, Metal Gear Solid: Ghost Babel, the Zelda Oracle games, wario land 3, R-Type DX, Mr. Driller...it's not like it was hurting for good games. It's exclusive (or at least compatible) games get lost in the shuffle between GBA and GB, I guess.
MonkeyWizard
05-20-2004, 07:55 PM
My personal bottom 5:
-Actionmax
-N-Gage
-Cd-i
-Game.com
-RDI Halcyon
ManekiNeko
05-20-2004, 08:05 PM
What's with the Game Boy Color being on 2 of these lists? I don't care for it, but that's because I don't really like handhelds...anyhow, it really wasn't that bad, definitely better than Original GB and GB Pocket...sure, it's not as good as the Advances, but it was made well before them too...
See, that's my problem with the system. When Project Atlantis was first announced, it sounded like the major step forward for portable game systems that players had demanded for years. When Nintendo actually released the Game Boy Color, however, it quickly became clear that it was just another wimpy 8-bit handheld, essentially just a Game Boy with stapled on color support. The words "crushing disappointment" seem like a grossly inadequate description of how players felt when they finally got their hands on the system.
Sure, there were a handful of good games for the Game Boy Color. At first. It wasn't long, however, before Nintendo realized that they could coast on the Pokemon series and just let third parties release whatever trash they wanted on the system. There was NO quality control, and the result was horrible, horrible games like Men in Black which received some of the worst ratings ever on IGN. Not a day went by in 1999 without someone, somewhere panning a shitastic Game Boy Color game based on a film, a toy, or an earlier Playstation release it couldn't hope to accurately reproduce. The Game Boy Color's software library was nothing short of shameful. It will probably go down in history as having one of the worst quality to quantity ratios of any widely distributed video game system.
THAT is why I consider the Game Boy Color one of the worst game systems ever made. It was a slap in the face by an arrogant corporation which abused its monopoly in the handheld gaming industry. Even Nintendo came to realize just how badly it mistreated its customers with this pathetic excuse for a system... they dropped the Game Boy Color like a hot rock when the Game Boy Advance was released, and promised to use a game evaluation team (Club Mario) to ensure that their new console wouldn't suffer the same fate as its awful ancestor.
JR
dreamcaster
05-20-2004, 08:36 PM
Fair enough.
But I'm sure there's people out there who would say the same thing about the PlayStation. :roll:
ManekiNeko
05-20-2004, 08:51 PM
What, that it was a Game Boy with stapled on color support? Somehow I doubt that. LOL
JR
scooterb23
05-20-2004, 09:29 PM
I need to preface this by saying I haven't had the pleasure to play some of the older bad systems (such as the Arcadia etc.) so this is pretty much going to go by systems I own.
My list of my least favorite systems: and yes, I'm ready for the flames...
1. N64
2. Sega CD
3. Sega 32X
4. Atari Jaguar
5. SNES (my opinion of this has actually softened in the last year or so...it was #2 last time I did one of these lists. I found some games I actually liked)
and yes, I own a Game.com, I like it a lot...yes the action games are bad, but it does puzzle and word games really well...and that's the stuff I like to play on the go. And I freaking love my Virtual Boy.
AB Positive
05-20-2004, 09:48 PM
Since I still haven't played one that works the right way in 20 years I'd have to say the 5200.
(holds ears to drown out chorus of boos)
BOOOOOOOOOO. The 5200 is one of my two favorite pre-NES systems. The other, of course, being the Odyssey2. (heh heh, no ax for me PDF)
Worst game systems? Well from what I've played I'll whatever-th these nominations:
CD-I
R-Zone
Virtual Boy
Jaguar
Jaguar is a bit iffy on this list, I know there are at least 2-3 good games on the system. VB has a couple games most people would enjoy should they have the ability to play it for longer than 30 min. The other two? Complete crap.
-AG
le geek
05-20-2004, 11:43 PM
I dig the GBC (with a worm light that is). Your point has merits, but come on the GBC won't be in the top five maybe not in the top ten! I mean the Jaguar might not make the top five! LOL
the 32x was a big pain to set up (but really it's like a starpath supercharger, not a console) and the games were pretty good...
Darkness X
05-20-2004, 11:51 PM
I pick the N-Gage for my first and only vote. Why? Because it's the only system that I couldn't even find one game that interested me on it.
sabre2922
05-21-2004, 12:03 AM
heres my list:
N64: I tried for sooo many years to like this game system and in all honesty if it werent for the Zelda games and Mario 64 I would say that this would be the biggest embarrasment for the big N right after the Virtual boy
Atari Jaguar: we had one floating between me and 4 of my friends back in the day becuase no one wanted it and everyone kept giving it to someone else! lol true story really LOL
N-Gage: should speak for itself
Push Upstairs
05-21-2004, 12:39 AM
I can't really name 5 because well, i try not to play crap game systems :)
However there is one i have yet to gain any kind of apprecation for:
The N64. I have yet to find a single game i truely like on that system.
I didnt care for Mario 64 because i cannot stand 5 minutes of Mario's talking. So i've played like 5 minutes of Mario 64.
Crusin' USA - I thought the days of watered down ports were behind this system? I loved the arcade version (and i thought the arcade was based on the N64?) but i tried the N64 version and noticed missing graphics from the arcade. BOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Doom 64 & Goldeneye are nice games but i cannot play a FPS with a N64 controller.
Perhaps a Zelda game might change my opinion on this system but there is just one thing in my way.. i hate the N64 controller. I hate its design and i really hate having to cramp my hands together to use the analog stick and the buttons.
So N64, i choose YOU as my worst US system.
Avenger
05-21-2004, 12:49 AM
your on crack man N64 is my fav system of all time :D ...
oh well to the topic at hand
N-Gagei see as being the worst thing ever made, i dont even know why they bothered...sure its powerful, but with that stupid screen what the point?
i never even thought to say the GBC...but i read your guyz' posts and you are totally right...all it was was a GB with color, but back then, i love it! so young...so dumb :P....and yea, i have a bag of GBC games which are just worthless apart from making my collection bigger....has anyone even played Austin Powers on GBC???? worst game ever...
dreamcaster
05-21-2004, 01:37 AM
What, that it was a Game Boy with stapled on color support? Somehow I doubt that. LOL
JR
No, the fact that it has a shit load of crappy games.
Ze_ro
05-21-2004, 01:38 AM
Wow, I can't believe how harsh you guys are being on some of these systems... I mean, the Jaguar wasn't the best system ever, but I'd hardly consider it in the "Worst 5" when there are such awful systems as the R-Zone out there. And for crying out loud, the Halcyon had what? 2 games in total? And the system was built specifically with FMV games in mind (even moreso than the SegaCD)... the N64 isn't even in the same league as the Halcyon!
Some systems like the Arcadia 2001, the APF MP-1000 and others were plagued by "me too" arcade clones, making the systems fairly forgettable... other systems were doomed by poor concepts and marketing like the SuperVision, Gamate and Game.com... and others just plain failed like the Virtual Boy, 32X and Jaguar... but when it comes to truly bad systems, those are lightweights!
I'd have to nominate the Milton Bradley Microvision here. I know it was the first ever handheld, and it broke new ground and all... but sheesh, the device has a 16x16 screen resolution! How can you even create meaningful graphics with that? I'd still consider this as the "best" out of the list I'm about to type though.
My worst 5, in no specific order:
Halcyon
Microvision
Memorex VIS
R-Zone
Action Max
--Zero
sisko
05-21-2004, 08:59 AM
Honestly, it doesn't make any sense how someone can say N64 and GBC, but NOT the CDI....
The CDI sucked. It was fairly expensive, had mayybe 2 or 3 decent [playable] games.
Phosphor Dot Fossils
05-21-2004, 09:54 AM
After struggling to come up with an answer, and bearing in mind that I haven't played every console there is...generally, I find that there's something to love about each one. Sorry guys, I can't nominate anything for this dubious honor. :P
chadtower
05-21-2004, 10:40 AM
My worst system ever:
http://www.thelogbook.com/wishlist/kickpook.jpg
I mean, DAMN, wtf were they thinking with that controller?
Darkness X
05-21-2004, 11:13 AM
Whoa, whats with all the votes for the N64?! It's better then GameCube you know! ;)
*Runs* I better get a head start as I'm about to get shot... LOL
chadtower
05-21-2004, 11:18 AM
I would put the N64 in my TOP 5, not my BOTTOM 5.
Since I still haven't played one that works the right way in 20 years I'd have to say the 5200.
(holds ears to drown out chorus of boos)
I don't like to be critical here but you obviously have NO idea what you are talking about....
The Atari 5200 was (and still is) a GREAT system. Only problem is the fragile controllers, which can be totally fixed with the new gold plated flex board and buttons. Stick to criticizing systems you know about...
Sorry but I hear so much anti 5200 shit on this board sometimes it makes my blood boil.
YoshiM
05-21-2004, 11:45 AM
Like le geek, I think the GBC doesn't deserve to be rated a "worse" game system. It got decent support, even though it had its share of crap titles. The GB itself is a treasure trove of asstastic nuggets of non-delight, so fingering the GBC as being worse than a GB is almost the pot calling the kettle black.
If that's the criteria of a "bad" console, I vote the GBA. A screen that requires practically direct sunlight or a high powered beam of light that singes your hair in order to see, a smaller D pad that can make some precision moves difficult, connectivity cables that don't take some light assemblies into consideration (for the GBA-the Floodlight was rated one of the best lights next to the Afterburner but the thing closes over the screen, so you can't use link cables or the SP Reader) and has a large library of the top Nintendo titles...circa 1990's. It's been a re-release diarrea fest since the GBA came out. SMW, SMW 2, SMB 2, SMB 3, F-Zero Maximum Velocity, Zelda: Four Swords (the single player is Link to the Past, I believe), the NES re-releases (SMB, Excitebike, etc.), Double Dragon, Ghouls n' Ghosts, River City Ransom, the list goes on. While these are or may all be good games, it doesn't change the fact that Nintendo and other companies are just regurgitating past licenses. As classic gamers it's kinda cool as a nice graphical update may help us play these titles again but in the gaming world as a whole it puts things at a standstill.
Then there is the SP. ManekiNeko said the GBC was a slap to the face, what about this thing? People buy up the GBA in droves and suffer with its hard to see screen thanks to light kits and the Afterburner mod. Then Nintendo so graciously releases the SP with the front lit screen everyone wanted. While many bought the new SP (even though they HAD a GBA they invested cash in) others probably felt as though Mario himself came up and wahoo-kicked them in the collective sack.
YoshiM
05-21-2004, 12:05 PM
Whoa, whats with all the votes for the N64?! It's better then GameCube you know! ;)
*Runs* I better get a head start as I'm about to get shot... LOL
I have to agree: what's up with the N64 hatin'? For those who like modern games ya gotta give the N64 proper for:
-making analog controls standard: the N64 was the trail blazer last generation and we haven't looked back. True the Atari 5200 had analog controls, but not many games utilized it didn't really influence anyone else until we see analog again some 13 to 14 years later.
-rumble control: the only thing on the console market that remotely resembled the rumble controllers we use and love today was the Interact vest that used a woofer to send low signals from the game barreling into your body. The N64 released the Rumble Pack whose intensity and actions were totally programmable by developers. Another standard set.
-console built for multiplayer: the N64 shipped with four controller ports (again sharing an idea that the Atari 5200 had that wasn't touched upon for another 13 to 14 years) on the console. Everyone else forced you to buy a multi-tap and in the next generation of consoles everyone EXCEPT Sony (as they want your money-see also optional but necessary accessory memory cards) had four controller ports.
So don't be dissin' the sixty-fo too much :P
chadtower
05-21-2004, 12:12 PM
The Vectrex also has analog controls, though few official games take advantage.
Push Upstairs
05-21-2004, 04:50 PM
I have to agree: what's up with the N64 hatin'?
I don't know about other people, but i just never liked the N64. I worked around them when they were new and later in a used game store and i never found them interesting the least bit. I tried games for it but none of them ever "wowed" me.
Maybe i am afraid to bring a N64 home because my NES and Gameboy might take turns beating it up :P
But seriously, i totally agree with your GBA/SP comments though. And while the orginal GB wasnt a perfect system (far, far from it)...at least it had ORGINAL games made for it....even if some were heaps of fecal matter.
ubersaurus
05-21-2004, 05:24 PM
What's with the Game Boy Color being on 2 of these lists? I don't care for it, but that's because I don't really like handhelds...anyhow, it really wasn't that bad, definitely better than Original GB and GB Pocket...sure, it's not as good as the Advances, but it was made well before them too...
See, that's my problem with the system. When Project Atlantis was first announced, it sounded like the major step forward for portable game systems that players had demanded for years. When Nintendo actually released the Game Boy Color, however, it quickly became clear that it was just another wimpy 8-bit handheld, essentially just a Game Boy with stapled on color support. The words "crushing disappointment" seem like a grossly inadequate description of how players felt when they finally got their hands on the system.
Sure, there were a handful of good games for the Game Boy Color. At first. It wasn't long, however, before Nintendo realized that they could coast on the Pokemon series and just let third parties release whatever trash they wanted on the system. There was NO quality control, and the result was horrible, horrible games like Men in Black which received some of the worst ratings ever on IGN. Not a day went by in 1999 without someone, somewhere panning a shitastic Game Boy Color game based on a film, a toy, or an earlier Playstation release it couldn't hope to accurately reproduce. The Game Boy Color's software library was nothing short of shameful. It will probably go down in history as having one of the worst quality to quantity ratios of any widely distributed video game system.
THAT is why I consider the Game Boy Color one of the worst game systems ever made. It was a slap in the face by an arrogant corporation which abused its monopoly in the handheld gaming industry. Even Nintendo came to realize just how badly it mistreated its customers with this pathetic excuse for a system... they dropped the Game Boy Color like a hot rock when the Game Boy Advance was released, and promised to use a game evaluation team (Club Mario) to ensure that their new console wouldn't suffer the same fate as its awful ancestor.
JR
So by your thinking, the PS1, the Atari 2600, and the NES all suck too, because they have a ton of craptacular games compared to their number of good games. It's just not fair to rank the GBC so low on the list, when there's other, more trashy consoles out there.
TNTPLUST
05-21-2004, 06:25 PM
Wow...what a brawl.
Some of thsese systems do NOT belong on a 5 worst list. N64, Jaguar or 5200 the worst!?! Common thats ridiculous. Even if you don't have experience with collecting or have never played the worst consoles out there comon sense and historical perspective should lead you to the worst consoles. The questions that need to be asked are. Was the system a hit or a miss in the market, Was it technically advanced or at least current for the time, Was it overpriced? Did it Offer Vaporware or not meet expectations? Was it's game library near non existent? There are systems I don't like for personal reasons but if someone were to put me on a commitee and asked me to reasonably nominate 5 consoles I would use SOME objectivity. Anyway here is my list:
Game.com - Released in 1997 The games were almost unplayable, Monochrome LCD Non Back lit that "smeared" when the action got to hectic. Truly bad...only playable games were the non action games like Monopoly and Lights Out. 69.99 when first released to compete against the Game Boy which had been out since 1984 and had a humongous library.
RCA STUDIO II - Released in 1977 Black and White graphics, Built in numeric controllers, $299 price tag, BIG UGLY GRAPHICS. Was outdated before it EVER came to the market. The 2600 would kill it with color and a $200 price tag less than 12 months later.
Halcyon - $2000 at release. Only two games, 4 demos released. Released in 1984 and gone by 1985. This is a no brainer even if you have never seen it.
Action Max - released 1987. Great a light gun that kept score as you shot at "targets" on your tv. Of course the media was VHS tapes. Once you played any game more than twice it became old.
Atari XE - Ok I had to stretch on this one. In honesty I kinda like the little fellow BUT lets look at this from a historical perspective. The machine is really just a stripped 400/800 computer. Released to compete against the SNES, SMS and the Atari 7800 (wow what a great corporate Idea...go up against the most popular console of all time and then split you audience between two of your own systems!) Small library with nothing in it you hadn't seen already.
Ok that's my five. I actually collect all of the above except the Halcyon. I treaure them as collector items but I would have hanged myself if I had been screwed into buying one of these when they were new.
One last note...The N-Gage may join the above list but I don't think the Fat Lady has finally sung on this one and in my opinion the Jury is still out. I'll wait another year before I judge this system.
Aussie2B
05-21-2004, 06:53 PM
I would put the N64 in my TOP 5, not my BOTTOM 5.
I totally agree. :) It's a magnificent system that I still play regularly all the time. It saddens me that others are unable or refuse to get the enjoyment out of it that I do. :(
As for GBC, maybe it was just me, but I was AMAZED when I got one. Definitely not a disappointment for me. I skipped out on the Pocket, so it was a HUGE improvement over my old brick. While there was a massive amount of crap for it, Star Ocean: Blue Sphere is good enough all by itself to outweigh all of the crap. ;P
And for Virtual Boy... well, I like it as a novelty more than anything else, but it DOES have some cool games. I can definitely think of MUCH worse systems.
Now, for what I dislike... it's hard to say because I have no experience with many of the true stinkers. I will say that the US libraries for the Sega CD, 32X, and Saturn didn't have much to offer, but they're not "top 5 worst" material. The N-Gage will perhaps earn a place there soon, though.
PentiumMMX
05-21-2004, 06:58 PM
I say that the worst systems are
5) Virtual Boy (Speeks for It's Self)
4) Game Gear (GBC is Better)
3) N-Gage (Holy Taco, Batman!)
2) Sega Master System (AAAAAAAHHHHH!)
1) X-Box (It's Good to fart toghther!)
sabre2922
05-21-2004, 06:59 PM
ummm the Gameboy was released in 1989 lol not 1984 ;)
TheScaryOne
05-21-2004, 07:03 PM
I dont like PS2. The hardware sucks, and the gamecube and xbox feel more"advanced" to me. The only reason I bought it was because of the games.
TNTPLUST
05-21-2004, 10:33 PM
ummm the Gameboy was released in 1989 lol not 1984 ;)
I stand corrected. But my theory still holds water.
I can see why people put the 32x (bad design! Too many wires and those shield that you had to put in your Genny SUCKED), GBA (bad screen more Glare than off of Patrick Stewarts head!), 3DO (just bad) but why would anyone pick on the SMS or the Game Gear (esentially the same thing). It was ahead of its time. Offered color graphics, and an adapter to play SMS games. Some cool games unless you hated Sonic. The only negative I can think of was the Battery life but all the old handhelds had this problem.
djbeatmongrel
05-21-2004, 10:42 PM
This list will probably get me banned hehe (this is only out of what i've played or own). ordered from worst to least crappy:
1. NES
2. Virtual Boy
3. Sega CD
4. Xbox
5. N64
Push Upstairs
05-22-2004, 12:32 AM
Some of thsese systems do NOT belong on a 5 worst list. Even if you don't have experience with collecting or have never played the worst consoles out there comon sense and historical perspective should lead you to the worst consoles.
We all have our own criteria for thinking whatever systems we want as the worst ever.
Worst consoles for me are ones that i do not take any joy from playing. That is my criteria for "worst" your idea might be different.
I may not like the N64, someone might not like the XBOX, djbeatmongrel doesnt like the NES. This thread is about opinions...not scientific research.
TNTPLUST
05-22-2004, 03:31 AM
Some of thsese systems do NOT belong on a 5 worst list. Even if you don't have experience with collecting or have never played the worst consoles out there comon sense and historical perspective should lead you to the worst consoles.
We all have our own criteria for thinking whatever systems we want as the worst ever.
Worst consoles for me are ones that i do not take any joy from playing. That is my criteria for "worst" your idea might be different.
I may not like the N64, someone might not like the XBOX, djbeatmongrel doesnt like the NES. This thread is about opinions...not scientific research.
Actually the fact that I approach it from a historical/scientific approach IS opinion. My view is just my opinion matter how I arrive at the conclusion. I do not intend to offend...but I don't beleive in stagnent threads either. If we all just posted what we hated we just get a bunch of worst lists with no meaningful discussion.. If we have respectful, thoughful debates on the subject it is more fun. Several people have made thoughful criticisms of systems that I wouldn't have put on a worst list but since they made thoughful posts stating there case I myself and forced to rethink my position. I take from your thread you are upset by somethinig I posted? I assure you that everythinig is in the spirit of fun. On that note...THE N64 ROCKED...you are crazy.... :P
DDCecil
05-22-2004, 03:48 AM
From ugh to the uggggggh:
Game Gear
X-box
R-Zone
N-Gage
Game.com
chrisbid
05-22-2004, 03:53 AM
CDi
Jaguar CD (i cant believe there have been no votes for this)
Game.com
Microvision
and my controversial vote goes to
3DO
icbrkr
05-22-2004, 10:02 AM
RCA STUDIO II - Released in 1977 Black and White graphics, Built in numeric controllers, $299 price tag, BIG UGLY GRAPHICS. Was outdated before it EVER came to the market. The 2600 would kill it with color and a $200 price tag less than 12 months later.
Not doubting it was ugly, but I thought it came out at 149?
My top 5:
1. RZone (I've got one.. not sure why)
2. Action Max (same)
3. VIS (I took mine apart years ago to mess with it.. bad idea)
4. 3DO - don't hate me on this one, the problem wasn't with the hardware, it's just aside from a lot of FMV and quickly ported 16 bit titles, there wasn't much to show this system off .. and it cost the GNP of a small island to buy.
5. Aquarius ... sure it was a computer, but it played cartridges, and those carts were bad... really really bad.
djbeatmongrel
05-22-2004, 11:44 AM
On that note...THE N64 ROCKED...you are crazy.... :P
its probably my least played system and i never make the effort to buy games for it since its not worth it, i know i wont be playing those as much as lets say a dreamcast or ps2/ps1 title. :o
Ze_ro
05-22-2004, 12:55 PM
1. NES
2. Virtual Boy
3. Sega CD
4. Xbox
5. N64
Wow... you'd honestly rather be playing a Memorex VIS than a NES? I never liked the NES much either, but sheesh.
I still find some of the choices you guys have made perplexing... I see a lot of people have chosen the N-Gage as one of the worst... but is it really worse than the Game.com, the SuperVision or the Gamate? I mean really. Have you guys ever really looked into some of these systems?
And systems like the PSX and GBC may have had a lot of bad games, but at least they also had some good games. For crying out loud, the Halcyon had two games. Two games! And that's assuming you count Thayer's Quest and a laserdisc full of football coverage as "games". Would you really rather play "Raiders vs. Chargers" than Ocarina of Time or Super Mario 64?
--Zero
chrisbid
05-22-2004, 01:03 PM
that ulala avatar is nice...
with the exception of that freaky overgrown hand?!! @_@
DigitalSpace
05-22-2004, 02:30 PM
Atari Jaguar, hands down.
djbeatmongrel
05-22-2004, 04:03 PM
Wow... you'd honestly rather be playing a Memorex VIS than a NES? I never liked the NES much either, but sheesh.
never played one, thats why i said my list is based off of what i played or owned
Escape•From•Jenny•Island
05-22-2004, 11:31 PM
Sony PlayStation and PlayStation 2- Only reason many bought them was to get their yearly fix of Final Fantasy. And then the "Gamers" who need their yearly Madden rehashes. Otherwise I would have never touched the awful things. Also so many Mechanical Problems.
SEGA 32X- A few good games for an overpriced console add-on. Could have just put the few good games (Doom 32X, Blackthorne, Knuckles Chaotix, and Star Wars Arcade 32X) for the system on the much better, Released at the same time, SEGA Saturn.
CD-i- Home Entertainment Machine and Business Presentation Machine. System was pretty much Marketed for its FMV Capabilities but the quality of the games (and Horrible FMV actors) really didnt make it much of a Game Machine. If people want FMV GAMES then a SEGA CD was the wiser choice at the time.
3DO- $700 pile of shit...
Neo•Geo CD- Great Idea for SNK to reach to a mainstreem audience, but Loading Times hurt the system, and not enough original games didnt help it reach the broader audience it was made for.
R-Zone, Game.Com, PiPPiN, GameBoy Color...
Darkness X
06-02-2004, 12:34 AM
Whats with the votes for Xbox now? I mean sure it's not the best, but it's far from the top 5 worst. I won't say anymore about it(even though I do like the Xbox), because 1.I'm not an Xbox fanboy 2.This thread is all about peoples opinions.
...Now if there were any votes for the Saturn/Dreamcast then I would go insane with rage.
lol
vintagegamecrazy
06-02-2004, 01:16 AM
I really like your fact based opinions and also think stuff like the 64 jaguar and other stuff nominated like that are unreasonable. I look at it from a hardware based potential point of view. There are a lot of systems that are good spec wise but suck hardware wise. Arcadia 2001, Supervision, Jaguar, Cdi, Halcyon, 3dp, and maybe even the vis to name a few. All of the support either sucks or is nonexistent, but if a good programmer wanted to make some quality games then the system could show its true mettle. On the other hand The systems that I look at as top worst are the ones that should of come out ten years before they were released, Studio II, Channel F (come on it had like 30 inch hardwired controllers, how are you suppose to play that and it had built in sound) Gamate, Game.com, R-Zone (coulda possibly been cool in like 1985, (maybe) ). These systems even if someone wanted to support them they would still suck. Those are bad systems.
Jasoco
06-02-2004, 09:16 PM
Now, I've never played a system I didn't like, though I'll be honest, the PSX and PS2 are at my very bottom of my like list. I guess the closest I'd come is the VB which I only played for a few minutes, and I didn't understand the game, but I've never owned it, so I'm not going top say it is the worst.
But I don't see how the GBC or even the GBC are "The worst". Seriously, the regular GB has it's own share of shitty games. Not just the Color. And the SP is a work of art. I mean, seriously.
As for the 32X, yeah. It isn't that good. Not really the games so much as how it is implemented. Too big, very faulty.. whatever.
Also, I ditto what TheScaryOne said about the PS2. If it weren't for the FF games, my brother wouldn't have one.
Lone_Monster
06-02-2004, 09:36 PM
Personally, I haven't played ANY systems that I would say were horrible.
I just don't understand how people can say the Game Boy, XBox, and especially Super Nintendo, are bad systems.
Of course, the Game Boy Color had its crappy games, but there were also tons of great ones too. The Good to bad ratio might be 1:4, but still, atleast there are some.
XBox, I used to hate it to death, also. But now, I pretty much love it, and I don't understand how people can put this in their top 5 worst systems ever. Just because it's a Microsoft system and because it's got a bulky controller, doesn't mean it's bad. It's the games, graphics, and etc. Especially since the XBox needs no memory card, i find it a great system.
And now for the Super Nintendo. How the HELL can ANYONE say this is a bad system? Have you honestly never played games like Final Fantasy II, II, EarthBound, Chrono Trigger, Secret Of Mana, Soul Blazer, and the list gows ON and ON?
Anyway, like I said, I cant tell of any systems that I truly hate. The N-Gage, I have never played. It may look like crap, it may sound like crap, but I have never tried it so I cannot say.
Tiger.Com, same.
Jasoco
06-02-2004, 09:44 PM
Oh, yeah. I forgot about the N-Gage. Worst system ever.
I'm not just saying that. I have used one.
I was unable to even figure out how to get into the game. And any system that doesn't even make it easy to get into the game is a verrry BAD system. Remember when you could put a game in the console and turn it on and it would play the game? Apparently Nokia hasn't.
NeoVenom
06-02-2004, 11:12 PM
Wow.....the N64....NES...SNES...and GBC are bad systemz!? Wth!? SNES killed the Genesis. N64 was successful and it was giving competition to Playstation. Gameboy Color wasn't that bad,many people still brought them. And I couldn't believe someone said NES. LOL The truly bad systems and portables are...CD-i, Atari Jaguar, Virtual Boy, and N-Gage.
After struggling to come up with an answer, and bearing in mind that I haven't played every console there is...generally, I find that there's something to love about each one. Sorry guys, I can't nominate anything for this dubious honor. :P
You know, I like you point of view on this topic. Every system has something for it, even the old Channel F. Why pick on systems, when you can enjoy what you got instead!
NeoVenom
06-03-2004, 09:50 AM
Now to think of it, I heard people saying that Alien Vs Predator was good on the Atari Jaguar (Was that the name? I don't know).
Tricky X
06-03-2004, 10:24 AM
Good lord. I think I am going to cry. You guys are dogging some of the best systems out there. @_@ If nothing else they are unique. Virtual Boy may not be the best system out, but it is cool. Something different. 32x, I love my 32x. Along with my Sega CD and my Genesis, it looks like a transformer. That is cool. The SMS, oh man, you can't knock the SMS. 3D glasses kick ass. The list goes on. Knocking the Jaguar almost made me want to faint. Tempest 2000 has to be one of the top games of all time.
The real ass systems are
1) Studio II
2) R-Zone (This just plain blows)
3) Game.com
Tricky X
RockyRaccoon
06-03-2004, 12:08 PM
Alright. the Only game system I've ever, EVER, EVER, EVER will have a problem with..is the ACTION MAX, by World of Wonder toys.
you shot at things...on a VHS Tape. it super imposed sprites over said VHS tape. ....that was it. it was nothing...at all. really. I have one somewhere in my house in a box. I cannot sleep at night knowing it's lurking somewhere...ready to strike at anywhere with it's "Gameplay" .... that really isn't gameplay at all!
I will find it...and stad it through the heart! EN GARDE!
~Rocky
Ze_ro
06-03-2004, 01:22 PM
I was unable to even figure out how to get into the game.
I couldn't figure out how to get into the game either! There was an N-Gage at the local EB, and it claimed to have Tomb Raider on it, but I couldn't for the live of me convince it to play the damn game! And it's not like I'm some old lady that doesn't understand technology, I have a degree in electrical engineering for crying out loud.
Now to think of it, I heard people saying that Alien Vs Predator was good on the Atari Jaguar (Was that the name? I don't know).
The Jaguar had plenty of good games, it's just that most of the people who hated it never took the time to play them. Alien Vs. Predator is excellent. So are Tempest 2000, Battlemorph, Doom, Defender 2000, Iron Soldier, Rayman, and plenty of others. It has some real duds like Checkered Flag and Trevor McFur, but I'd never call it one of the worst systems ever.
--Zero
Aswald
06-03-2004, 01:53 PM
I 'dunno, I think the N-gage can turn around it's image a good deal with the decently priced (and no-longer taco shaped) N-gage2.
And I'll throw in the 7800. 7800's kinda borderline though, as it woulda been a powerhouse for 1984, but ended up as the wimpiest offering of 1986.
Have to disagree with you there. The Atari 7800 was by far the best system for massive amounts of on-screen movement. This is why Robotron: 2084, and Xevious were handled so well, even though they were among the first games for that system. Even the Sega Master System was unable to match it in that one aspect. The flickering you saw in the NES Bubble Bobble would not have been there in a 7800 version, and the graphics would have been pretty much equal.
In 1988, U.S. Gold produced a game for it called Tower Toppler. This was the game that proved the 7800 could, in fact, match the NES. The on-screen movement was created by keeping the well-animated protagonist in the middle of the screen while the entire playfield moved around. Since the playfield was a cylindrical tower, simple scrolling would not do: the tower had to constantly rotate, objects "coming around from the edges" had to be done, with their own movement taken into consideration. The enemies were detailed, multi-colored, and fully animated; spinning, twisting, changing...and not a flicker in sight.
And the intermissions, where you piloted your sub from one tower to the next, was almost Sega Master System quality. Only the sound was a problem, although not in that game.
The problem with the 7800 was the same one that plaqued the Jaguar and the Lynx: a severe case of "Tramielitis," which was a terminal condition. The best system in the universe will be a bad joke if the people running the show are essentially incompetent.
For example, what were two very popular genres of games in those days? RPGs and side-scrolling/level/boss games, like Gradius or R-Type. How many of the latter did the 7800 have? None. And the only RPG game that finally came out for it was Midnight Mutants, and that appeared when the 8-bit era was just about over anyway. Even the third-generation ColecoVision had a superior selection to the 7800, and if Opcode ever does a Nemeis-style game for it, then the CV would REALLY be a better match for the NES than the 7800 in every possible way! Nightmare will probably do that anyway.
Zombiezilla
06-03-2004, 02:01 PM
I don't know a whole heck of a lot about systems, and all of the different ones out there, but to see Channel F in the first post seems a little wrong. Shouldn't the criteria for a list like this be along the lines of AFTER the Atari 2600 or the very least the Intellivision? Channel F was a bit of a whole new experience, and if you were one of the kids to have one of them when they were new (as I was), it was the most amazing thing you could ever own! That was truely the beginning of the whole home video system as we know it today. It might pale in comparison to what you have today (and for the past 25 years, but once upon a time, it was a God!
I know it is all based on preference, but sheesh, don't forget, the Model T would suck on the roads nowdays, but once it was a friggin' Indy race car!
BloodshedPlague
06-04-2004, 12:08 AM
Game.com
Virtua Boy
32X
all are terrible but it won't stop me from owning them. Some day far down the road.