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Captain Wrong
11-03-2002, 10:41 PM
I know there were a bunch of laser disc games, but I didn't know anyone made a CED disc game until today.

http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/nfl.html

For those who don't know what a CED disc is, let's use an SAT like analogy:

LaserDisc is to CD what CED Video Disc is to records.

In other words, it's a vinyl disc that plays video and is read by a stlyus like a record. Pretty neat.




EDIT: to fix BBCode, which I had edited to fix last night but it didn't take for some reason.

Stark
11-04-2002, 02:15 AM
I have the original Star Wars movie on CED. It looks cool and is perfect for framing and hanging up on the wall.

Sothy
11-04-2002, 02:28 AM
** head melts**

y-bot
11-04-2002, 02:45 AM
I just wanted to recomend the CEDmagic website (mentioned above) it has tons of interesting stuff about CEDs. I collect them and have over 500 different movies. There were 1 or 2 arcade games that used them and some interactive discs. Also I think there was supposed to be some sort of interface with Colecovision that was never finished.

Thanks, Y-bot

rolenta
11-04-2002, 11:01 AM
I think there was supposed to be some sort of interface with Colecovision that was never finished.

Yes, Ralph Baer worked on one. He has since given me his CED player and his LaserActive player!

theaveng
11-05-2002, 10:09 AM
The biggest flaw with those CED "video-records" is that they are records and prone to scratches plus the usual wear-and-tear of a needle grinding away at the surface. I have about 10 movies and when they were brand-new they were beautiful (higher resolution than VHS tape), but now they skip or hang-up due to scratches on the surface of the video record.

Laser-based media like laser discs, CD, and DVDs are superior because they are more durable over the long haul.

TheTallMan
11-05-2002, 10:24 AM
Laser-based media like laser discs, CD, and DVDs are superior because they are more durable over the long haul.

Thank you, Sir. I did not know that. I will bury my records tonight. Visitors are encouraged to stop by.

slapdash
11-05-2002, 11:23 AM
The biggest flaw with those CED "video-records" is that they are records and prone to scratches plus the usual wear-and-tear of a needle grinding away at the surface. I have about 10 movies and when they were brand-new they were beautiful (higher resolution than VHS tape), but now they skip or hang-up due to scratches on the surface of the video record.

Laser-based media like laser discs, CD, and DVDs are superior because they are more durable over the long haul.

There was, at one time, a laser stylus that could read records without physically touching them. I'm assuming that this either died out for not working well, died out for coming into the market too late, or is only available in high-end products? Dunno...

Captain Wrong
11-05-2002, 02:27 PM
There was, at one time, a laser stylus that could read records without physically touching them. I'm assuming that this either died out for not working well, died out for coming into the market too late, or is only available in high-end products? Dunno...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1389230834

This would be that animal. Still not exactly an affordable machine.

As for the long term viability of records vs. cd/digital media, I don't think it's so cut and dried. Records can last a long, long time IF they are stored and taken care of properly. The problem is, they are not a convience oriented format such as cds. Most people haven't taken care of their records properly and that's why people associate records with scratches, dust, etc.

And most people don't change their needle enough. Yes, there is wear to the vinyl any time you play a record, but the damage is quite minimal UNLESS you are using an old, dirty, worn out stylus. This is another thing most people over look because stylus care is not as easy or convient as throwing a cd in the player.

The oldest "laser" based consumer media is still only, what, 25 or so years old? (MCA DiscoVision came out in 1978 I think.) The oldest record is around 100 years old or so (and more fragile shellac based, which is a different material than the common records most people own.) I think it's still a little early to assume that CDs from 1982 are going to be playable in 2082. (Assuming they haven't come up with a new, incompatable digital format by that time and you can even find a CD player at that time.)

As if to further prove this point, I discovered this morning one of my favorite cds has two tiny scratches along the edge (look like they may have happened from the player, they're kind of curved and I'm very careful with my discs) and now the last two tracks won't play. If a scratch like that was on a record, it'd pop, maybe skip, but still play. The cd is DOA on those two tracks.

Perfect sound forever, my ass.

Charlesaway
11-05-2002, 07:57 PM
I read an article sometime last year about CD's being eaten by fungus. Check it out:

http://www.nature.com/nsu/010628/010628-11.html

y-bot:
Are you interested in any of the following CED's?

Taps
Network
Ragtime (Disc 1 only)
Black Sunday (Disc 1 & 2)
3 Days of The Condor
Kotch
Time Bandits
The Postman Always Rings Twice
And God Created Woman

I picked them up in a bulk lot of stuff, and I don't really have a need for them. Maybe a trade? email me if you are interested.

slapdash
11-06-2002, 12:40 PM
There was, at one time, a laser stylus that could read records without physically touching them. I'm assuming that this either died out for not working well, died out for coming into the market too late, or is only available in high-end products? Dunno...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1389230834

This would be that animal. Still not exactly an affordable machine.


Holy crap, you're not kidding...

theaveng
11-06-2002, 03:24 PM
As if to further prove this point, I discovered this morning one of my favorite cds has two tiny scratches along the edge and now the last two tracks won't play. If a scratch like that was on a record, it'd pop, maybe skip, but still play.



Odd. A friend of mine lent me a Mariah Carey CD that looked like he had run sandpaper across it. It still played in my system but with degraded sound quality (ironically...it sounded like a scratched record).

Anyway, I have both laserdiscs and CED video-records. The laserdiscs still play flawlessly. The CED records do not because of scratches, skips, and dust adherence. So from my viewpoint, the laserdiscs are the more stable storage.

Captain Wrong
11-07-2002, 03:07 PM
Odd. A friend of mine lent me a Mariah Carey CD that looked like he had run sandpaper across it.

Hmm...that would be approporate. :P (Just kidding...maybe.)

That's not the first time I've had a cd ruined by a tiny scratch. Actually I owned a circa 1985 Fisher player that in it's last days was scratching a very small line in the disc as they were playing. Ruined several discs this way before I figured out what the problem was.

BTW, you can use a record brush or a vaccuum record cleaner to clean CED discs if you're careful about it. Dunno if you have anything you're really serious about watching. A $20 carbon fiber record brush might do wonders for you.

theaveng
11-07-2002, 07:31 PM
No, my movies are all kiddie movies like "The Apple Dumpling Gang" and "Herbie Rides Again"... nothing I care deeply about. Besides, I can buy them on DVD now, so why bother cleaning?

Captain Wrong
11-08-2002, 11:43 AM
Awwwwwww...come on, who doesn't like the Apple Dumpling Gang? 8)

RucasRiot
11-09-2002, 11:39 PM
CEDs rock.. So does vinyl! I listen to vinyl more often than CDs.

Playing Oingo Boingo's Only a Lad right now...

theaveng
11-11-2002, 09:36 AM
You should buy that laser record player. It sounds truly awesome! Unfortunately I only have 5 records, but if I was a record lover I'd definitely buy it.

Captain Wrong
11-11-2002, 12:11 PM
:D

Trust me, I'd love to buy that thing. It's a wee bit out of my price rage right now (and probably always will be.) :cry: