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PentiumMMX
06-02-2004, 09:50 PM
What N64 Games do you think Suck?

I think that the Worst N64 Games are:

Glover
Rugrats: Scavenger Hunt O_O
F1 Pole Postiton 64 :angry:
WipeOut 64 -_-
Quest 64 :eek 2:

Rogmeister
06-02-2004, 09:55 PM
Well, my N64 library isn't that large and I try to stay away from bad games but everything I've heard points towards Superman 64 as being the worst...

Crush Crawfish
06-02-2004, 10:18 PM
Hey! Glover's a fun little game if you give it a shot! But anyway, Quest 64 scarred me for life. I still wake up in the middle of the night screaming from that unparalelled turd. LOL

Tritoch
06-02-2004, 10:45 PM
How can WipEout 64 be on that list? That was a pretty awesome port. :o

ReaXan
06-02-2004, 10:49 PM
Nintendo 64 was a great system for its time techonolgy wise with such treasures at Golden Eye,Zelda Ocarina of Time,and Mario Kart 64

but....

The 64 didnt have close to the games the Playstation was dishing out,Playstation would dish out like 8 o 9 and N64 would be lucky to have 2.
Also the cartridges were a out of date format and their werent enough quality games

NeoVenom
06-02-2004, 10:54 PM
Yeah true, but Playstation released a lot of crappy games aswell. LOL

Half Japanese
06-02-2004, 10:56 PM
Nintendo 64 was a great system for its time techonolgy wise with such treasures at Golden Eye,Zelda Ocarina of Time,and Mario Kart 64

but....

The 64 didnt have close to the games the Playstation was dishing out,Playstation would dish out like 8 o 9 and N64 would be lucky to have 2

Uh...alright.


I too tended to stay away from the turds, but I remember Gauntlet Legends being damn near unplayable because of blurry graphics.

TheScaryOne
06-02-2004, 11:44 PM
Yeah, Quest 64 sucked. Everyone hated Tonic Trouble but I kinda liked it....Back to the subject. Superman 64 sucked also, along with Glover. I don't have that big a N64 library(4 games.....), so I don't have much to say.

NintendoMan
06-02-2004, 11:45 PM
I know I can think of a few completely shitty ones, but the one that comes to mind the most, that I have actually played would be Superman64! I waited for months and reserved that damn game, then I go home and play it, the next thing you know I am at funcoland the next morning trading it in.

Quest 64 is actually that bad, I never played it but have always thought of picking it up sometime. For some reason I can't get the box art for that game out of my head.

Mark III
06-03-2004, 12:01 AM
Can't believe no one's mentioned War Gods yet.

Dark Rift was pretty craptacular too, but when you're making a sequal to a turd game like Criticom I guess that's to be expected.

sabre2922
06-03-2004, 02:16 AM
Besides Superman 64?
hmm there were many more bad games than good on N64 I would have to say the Cruisin games sucked especially compared to the decent arcade versions
and then there was the whole KILLER INSTINCT debacle damn that is one that I will NEVER forgive Nintendo for becuase I luved the arcade version and it was very popular at an arcade I used to frequent way back in the mid 90's really not long ago anway I remember everyone talking about the ULTRA64 while playing and competing on RAREs great (for then) fighter then the N64 is released and we get a very watered down almost unplayable (compared to the arcade version anyway) Killer Instinct gold? I was truly heartbroken really :(
and what is sooo freakin ironic about the whole thing is that after spending all that damn money on the new console the best version of KILLER INSTINCT was on my venerable Super Nintendo thanks to the wizards at Rare for pushing the old SNES to do what was then unimaginable things @_@

Push Upstairs
06-03-2004, 02:34 AM
Glover - for the red fog (why fog?)

I second the Crusin games as well. A blast to play in the arcade but watered down on the N64...i had bad flaskbacks of horribly watered down 16-bit games.

Mayhem
06-03-2004, 05:47 AM
No one's mentioned Aerogauge yet (maybe trying to block it from their minds)... utter shite.

kainemaxwell
06-03-2004, 08:40 AM
Tossup between Superman 64 and Quest 64 (I had Quest 64).

NeoVenom
06-03-2004, 09:47 AM
Someone said that there are more bad games than good on N64? I don't believe that is true. Yeah, it came out with some bad games, but the good games made up for it. Like Conker's Bad Fur Day, Perfect Dark, No Mercy. Heck I even liked Mickey Mouse Speedway (Even though it was a clone of Mario Kart 64).

sabre2922
06-03-2004, 02:36 PM
wipeout 64 was a good game very fast but with some bad pop up at times

Aswald
06-03-2004, 02:41 PM
Conker's Bad Fur Day.

All this game did for the Nintendo-64 was ruin their reputation with people who trusted them, while not generating any new sales. It was borderline "furry" porn, if I understand the term correctly.

Jasoco
06-03-2004, 02:54 PM
Conker's Bad Fur Day.

All this game did for the Nintendo-64 was ruin their reputation with people who trusted them, while not generating any new sales. It was borderline "furry" porn, if I understand the term correctly.Riiight.. You go on and think that. :roll:

I vote for Turok 2. I didn't get into it like I did the first. To me, I had just wasted my money. The original had me on my seat. I loved it. But this one, meh. I never tried the third.. I hear it's worse. And everything after it.

Charlie
06-03-2004, 03:27 PM
Oy, so many bad games. Seriously, the N64 hasn't aged well. Most of the games that you might have liked before seem like junk now. Mairo 64, Goldeneye (oy, did the frame-rate blow in four player mode), Perfect Dark, Banjo, Blast Corps, etc. I think Paper Mario will be the only game that has lasting appeal.

Five worse? Superman 64, MKM: Sub Zero, Multi-Racing-Championship, Blues Brothers 2000, and Transformers Beast Wars. Complete junk.

Jibbajaba
06-03-2004, 03:36 PM
Seriously, the N64 hasn't aged well.

I totally agree with that statement. I thought the N64 was really cool when it came out, but now I almost never play mine. I always thought that the playstation was superior both in its library and the hardware itself, but I think it rings even more true now. I still play PS1 games all the time.

I have a very small N64 collection and all the games are pretty good, but when I go to ebgames or wherever and look through the used games, it all looks like crap to me, with very few exceptions.

Aussie2B
06-03-2004, 03:56 PM
I disagree with a lot of the choices made. From what I've played, Gauntlet Legends seems pretty good, and while it's just cheesy fluff to me now, I LOVED Cruis'n USA back when it came out. It seemed every bit as good as the arcade version (if you can forgive the pop-up and the lack of cows :P ). Quest 64 was pretty lame, but it was tolerable enough to play through till the end for me. I've played MANY RPGs that are much worse (maybe more polished, but even more boring to play). In all honesty, Quest 64 makes me really sad when I play it. It had SO much potential. It had a lot of original, interesting concepts, but the game was killed by being rushed out the door. The 40-60% finished version they showed in Nintendo Power appears to be exactly the same as the version they put out, more or less. I always wonder what Quest 64 could have been with a bit more development time and perhaps some slightly greater skilled programmers... And while Wipeout 64 is a poor man's F-Zero X, it's still okay and better than the PSX version, at least. Killer Instinct Gold is one of the best fighters on the system, if you ask me. o_O

As for the true stinkers, Forsaken 64 and Multi Racing Championship are pretty bad. Xena and War Gods are HORRIBLE fighters. I find most of the sports games I own unplayable (Mike Piazza's Strike Zone, Madden 99, WWF War Zone, etc.), but I'm so lacking in skill at those kinds of games that I can't really tell if the problem is just me or the game. And while it's an unpopular opinion, I really can't stand Pilotwings 64. I got caught up in the hype for the N64, so I just bought the game because of how cool Nintendo Power made it sound ("Wow, I can fly around and see whales popping out of the ocean!"). Then I got it, and... almost right away I could tell that I wasn't having much fun with it. I worked really hard on the game, but even then I had great difficulty making progress (still have tons left that I never unlocked), and I got very little enjoyment out of it.

Aswald
06-03-2004, 04:02 PM
Conker's Bad Fur Day.

All this game did for the Nintendo-64 was ruin their reputation with people who trusted them, while not generating any new sales. It was borderline "furry" porn, if I understand the term correctly.Riiight.. You go on and think that. :roll:

I vote for Turok 2. I didn't get into it like I did the first. To me, I had just wasted my money. The original had me on my seat. I loved it. But this one, meh. I never tried the third.. I hear it's worse. And everything after it.

Well, I couldn't have been alone in thinking that. The game seriously tanked in the marketplace, there were quite a few complaints- remember, this is not the 1970s- and well, this says it best...


"Although the label "M" stands for mature, no mature person should be caught playing this game."

Nintendo’s latest N64 title has you swim through a river of human excrements, help a lascivious bee pollinate a big-breasted daisy, and urinate on pending foes. This is all coming from the video game giant who has a reputation for manufacturing high-quality games that appeal to all ages. Nintendo has failed in both areas with Conker’s Bad Fur Day (BFD).
BFD comes from Nintendo’s most renowned subsidiary, Rare Ltd. This UK-based software company is responsible for some of the best children’s games in the N64 software library like Diddy Kong Racing, the Banjo Kazooie series, and Donkey Kong 64. Needless to say, Rare’s software has only strengthened Nintendo’s clean image, well, up until now.
Conker is the star of BFD, a bright-eyed, bushy-tale squirrel who looks unmistakably like a Disney character. The game begins with Conker stumbling around in a drunken stupor after a long night at the local tavern. He then begins his bad day the following morning with a bad hangover and no sense of direction. Your quest is to guide the alcoholic squirrel home. And yes, this is a Nintendo game.
Ironically, the Conker N64 project originally began as a children’s game, but when first previewed to the public Rare received heavy criticism for creating yet another juvenile game. The company took note, and turned the Conker project completely around – from ultra-cute, to ultra-crude.
This ultra-crude approach to Conker has easily granted the game an “M” rating – the equivalent of an “R” movie – for sexual content, foul language, and toilet humor. The rating is misleading, however. Although the label “M” stands for mature, no mature person should be caught playing this game.
The humor in BFD grossly insults your intelligence. Hearing the f-word muttered literally hundreds of times throughout the
game just becomes monotonous. Getting Conker drunk also quickly loses its novelty. And while many gamers cry for more mature games, no one wants to see furry rodents vomiting everywhere and cows with diarrhea.
Conker’s Bad Fur Day is not a bad game because of terrible humor or explicit content. BFD is a bad game because it is just not fun to play. The gameplay consists of incredibly difficult scenarios that require luck rather than actual skill – a perfect combination for frustration.
In a particularly memorable scene, the player must help Conker push a ball of cow feces up to the top of a hill. The game designers made the path so narrow that the player unavoidably falls off and must start over several times. The scene is downright disgusting and hard-to-bare the first time through, let alone the fourth.
Perhaps the most insulting aspect of Conker’s Bad Fur Day is its marketing campaign. Nintendo has chosen college students as its target audience and has begun an advertising campaign in Maxim, Details, and Men’s Fitness and is currently sponsoring Playboy’s college campus tour. Somehow Nintendo figured hours of gameplay involving raw sewage and curvaceous female animals is exactly the type of game college students are looking for. How insulting indeed.
To the game’s credit, amidst the crudeness and juvenile sexual themes, BFD does have its moments of comic genius – the movie parodies are definitely the most enjoyable. In the scenario “Saving Private Rodent”, Conker finds himself on the beaches of Normandy playing out the events of Spielberg’s World War II classic. And the wonderfully choreographed scenario “Enter the Vertex” throws Conker into a scene taken from The Matrix. It’s hard not to laugh when seeing Conker in a black trench coat, dodging bullets in slow motion.
Thankfully, Conker’s Bad Fur Day has received a lukewarm response on the retail level. Nintendo only moved 23,000 copies of BFD during its first week – one of the worst game launches in company history. Hopefully the consumer apathy towards the game will send a clear message to Nintendo - Conker’s Bad Fur Day was just a bad idea.


Then again, it's probably all subjective.

Aussie2B
06-03-2004, 04:23 PM
I'd personally rather play a "mature" game that doesn't take itself seriously, rather than a "mature" game that tries to be all "deep" and "hardcore", but is really nothing but a bunch of violence, gore, sex, and cursing with a thin, convoluted plot that confuses teenage gamers into thinking it's "intelligent and adult".

Conker does its gimmick well. Of course it won't appeal to everyone, but I'm a strong believer in that if something appeals to EVERYONE, then it's crap. Not everyone likes Shakespeare (mostly stupid kids too immature and stupid to understand it), and that's a good thing. (Bad analogy to compare Conker to Shakespeare, I know, but I'm sure you get my point.)

Jasoco
06-03-2004, 04:40 PM
Actually, I loved PilotWings 64. If only for the whole Miniature USA you could explore. But I'll agree it was Uberhard.

ubersaurus
06-03-2004, 05:15 PM
Personally I think the PS1, Saturn, and N64 have all aged terribly, at least in the 3D department. That said, Forsaken really did suck something terrible. I wouldn't call it the worst on the platform, but it's down there.

Personally, the only worthwile wrestling game on the N64 at this point is still WWF No Mercy. Although the graphics may have aged, the gameplay is still considered to be the best.

NeoVenom
06-03-2004, 10:35 PM
LOL I don't care what anyone says, the majority of people found Conker Bad Fur Day hilarious. It is not real, it'z just a game. People these dayz take gamez so seriously. LOL Conker Bad Fur Day ruined Nintendo's reputation? LOL That'z why Nintendo is still in business. :roll:

kevincure
06-03-2004, 10:41 PM
I think the 64 has aged great - at least as well as the PSX, and I'm certainly a big fan of the PSX. This is qualified, though, by the comment that the 64 library is awful by and large. In any case, I still play Mario, Blast Corps, Wave Race, both Zeldas and Space Station: Silicon Valley on occasion.

sabre2922
06-03-2004, 10:57 PM
Conkers Bad fur day is a damn great game! funny,slightly original, and probably one of the best of N64
cant wait for the XBOX version of Conkers :evil:

NeoVenom
06-03-2004, 11:15 PM
Conkers Bad fur day is a damn great game! funny,slightly original, and probably one of the best of N64.

Damn right! LOL

Charlie
06-04-2004, 03:11 AM
I think the 64 has aged great - at least as well as the PSX, and I'm certainly a big fan of the PSX. This is qualified, though, by the comment that the 64 library is awful by and large. In any case, I still play Mario, Blast Corps, Wave Race, both Zeldas and Space Station: Silicon Valley on occasion.

I'm not saying that there isn't any fun to be had in the system. I'm simply saying that the games haven't aged gracefully. I remember how damn silly the Jaguar seemed when you stuck in right next to the PS, Saturn, and N64. Now all four machines for the most part seem even. Someone already said that it was mainly a problem with 3-D games, and I agree with that.

Let's put it this way: look at the GBA. It's gotten a ton of re-releases and they're all getting good scores in the gaming mags. Why? Because games like Super Mario 3, Mario World, DKC, etc are all timeless classics. But if you took Goldeneye and re-released it today, magizines would crap on it and call it broken. It is! It's got horribly washed out graphics and one of the worst frame rates in a platinum hit in video game history. My suggestion is just to remember how much fun N64 games were at the time and leave it at that, or else you risk spoiling what might be good memories. My buddies and I got together to play Perfect Dark this last week and we all were quite upset over how bad it is to play it today. The magic is gone.

That was my point... nobody is going to look back on many (and by many, I mean damn near every) N64 'classics' with the same glowing affection that they do games for classic systems, unless they get overhauled completely.

kevincure
06-04-2004, 06:00 AM
Goldeneye and Perfect Dark: I agree they haven't held up, while also admitting that I was never much of a fan. But certainly Mario 64 has held up as well as Super Mario World. The graphics don't really look that bad (especially in comparison with other games on 64 and PS - FF7 is still fun, but while playing recently I was amazed at what used to pass for amazing graphics). Same goes for the other games I've listed.

The problem with Goldeneye/PD is more a problem of genre than anything, I think. Certain genres (FPS, sports, fighting) hold up worse than others (RPG, Adventure, Platformers).

Nez
06-04-2004, 06:11 AM
CONKER RULES!!!

Oobgarm
06-04-2004, 07:26 AM
Wow, I saw that this topic had 31 posts and I expected to see 31 posts listing Superman 64 as worst evar. Instead all I got was 5. :hmm:

Isn't it a pretty open and shut case? ;)

geelw
06-04-2004, 10:34 AM
Wow, I saw that this topic had 31 posts and I expected to see 31 posts listing Superman 64 as worst evar. Instead all I got was 5. :hmm:

Isn't it a pretty open and shut case? ;)

not really. battlezone: rise of the black dogs is probably as bad or maybe worse than superman.

as for good games on the 64, there are a LOT more than what a lot of people give the system credit for. i'd name names, but that's a whole different post to start. aw hell, here's five:

body harvest
ogre battle 64
space station silicon valley
shadowgate
rayman 2

;)

Aussie2B
06-04-2004, 02:26 PM
My buddies and I got together to play Perfect Dark this last week and we all were quite upset over how bad it is to play it today. The magic is gone.

That reminds me, just recently before I took off on summer vacation, one of my boyfriend's buddies brought over Perfect Dark to play. Now this guy isn't an extremely hardcore gamer, so he can only tolerate the graphics of older games if they're "classic" games to him like Zelda. While he played and liked Perfect Dark back when it was new, it hardly has that status with him. Nevertheless, he had a blast playing the game with us, and all of us (who have never played the game before) thought it was really fun too. In fact, my boyfriend and I were quite impressed with the graphics (even when not on high-res mode) and the frame rate was good too (again, when not on high-res mode, which slows it down a lot).

I think with older 3D titles, you have to keep things in perspective. Saying old 3D games don't age well is like saying Atari and NES games haven't aged well because we got stuff like 900 megabit Neo Geo games now. Most magazines STILL speak highly of Goldeneye, and I'm sure they'd be more than happy to see a re-release of it someday. Of course, they'd want updated graphics and a nicer frame rate, but that is expected of 2D re-releases as well.

I personally can't think of a single N64 game that I loved back in the day and then played recently to discover I didn't like it anymore. What I loved then, I still love and play, and what I didn't like, I still don't like. I think I notice slow frame rates a little more than I did back then, but I just get into a "N64 frame of mind" and I have no problem tolerating them if the game is good.

Charlie
06-04-2004, 03:25 PM
I don't know how to explain it. With Goldeneye, the frame rate with four people playing and power weapons is simply horrible. It's like listening to a CD that skips. 2-D games can get away with it, but when it's a 3-D game that requires aiming, dodging, and strategy, two frames a second or less isn't going to cut it. It works reasonably well on weapons like pistols. But with Power Weapons and exploding weapons, it's wretched. Although I admit that I still dig the one player mode very much.

Perfect Dark on the other hand, the one player mode has always been broken. The frame rate is pathetic, and it throws off everything. Four player death matches still hold up somewhat, but it's impossible to add sims without it bogging down. one on one isn't so bad and one player with eight bots is still good. But for those who bought Perfect Dark as party game, like me, it never held up as much because of that blasted frame rate. I would have loved it as a Cube game. Let's hope the Xbox version that's never going to be released is decent.

Conker... what can I say about it? It's not completely unfunny but I still think it's highly overrated. The main game is a typical Rare platformer. The camera is a bitch to work with. Although I damn near pissed myself laughing at the pitchfork, paintbrush, and paint can. "So what are you going to do now? Kill yourself? Because that's what I recommend!" Dear god, I can't believe Nintendo allowed that.

I kinda digged the multiplayer modes back in the day, especially bank heist, but I couldn't find anyone wanting to play that over Goldeneye or Perfect Dark.

Jasoco
06-04-2004, 05:02 PM
I'll agree the framerate on the N64 is bad. But at the time, at least for me, it was fine. And I'm going to leave it at that. I do not think the games suck. They were awesome at the time. I loved Goldeneye to death, it made that my favorite (And the only one I can watch) Bond movie. And Perfect Dark was a GODSEND at the time. The AI Bots are STILL awesome even today. I could finally play Deathmatch with myself and not feel like it was too easy.

I recently put Mario Kart 64 in and was surprised at how bad the framerate was. At the time it was what we had, I had nothing to compare it to. It was a normal framerate. But now we have our Cubes and Xboxes to compare the games to and the smooth framerate of the current generation really shows you how bad the N64 really was.

But I still love it. Mario 64 is still a timeless classic that deserves to be rereleased on the Cube or N5 whenever the next Mario game comes out.

kainemaxwell
06-04-2004, 05:09 PM
as for good games on the 64, there are a LOT more than what a lot of people give the system credit for. i'd name names, but that's a whole different post to start. aw hell, here's five:

body harvest
ogre battle 64
;)

Body Harves tis pretty fun once you set the time aside to explore and play with it. I never got the chance to play or buy (though I want to) Orge Battle. Does it play like the SNES predassor and improve on some of its faults (mainly not being allowed to save while in a campain)?

ManekiNeko
06-04-2004, 05:57 PM
I keep wondering what happened to my choice of Dual Heroes (or as I call it, Mighty Morphine Powered Rangers) as one of the worst games on the N64. I could have sworn that I posted SOMETHING here!

JR

ManekiNeko
06-04-2004, 05:59 PM
as for good games on the 64, there are a LOT more than what a lot of people give the system credit for. i'd name names, but that's a whole different post to start. aw hell, here's five:

body harvest
ogre battle 64
space station silicon valley
shadowgate
rayman 2

;)

Wait, wait! Don't forget Rocket: Robot on Wheels! It's by the same folks who brought us Sly Cooper, so you KNOW it's tons of stylish, yet silly fun!

JR

geelw
06-04-2004, 09:49 PM
as for good games on the 64, there are a LOT more than what a lot of people give the system credit for. i'd name names, but that's a whole different post to start. aw hell, here's five:

body harvest
ogre battle 64
;)

Body Harvest is pretty fun once you set the time aside to explore and play with it. I never got the chance to play or buy (though I want to) Orge Battle. Does it play like the SNES predecessor and improve on some of its faults (mainly not being allowed to save while in a campaign)?

to tell you the truth, i don't remember LOL @_@ :roll: it's been about 3 years or so since i played ob. hmmmmmm...time to break out the ol' 64 (well, it's near the tv, just not connected, as i'm in the middle of about 15 other games, LOL ...

geelw
06-04-2004, 10:08 PM
Wait, wait! Don't forget Rocket: Robot on Wheels! It's by the same folks who brought us Sly Cooper, so you KNOW it's tons of stylish, yet silly fun!

JR

heh- i didn't forget it, i actually never played more than ten seconds of it! long story short dept. when i was a game slave a couple of years ago, we had a used one in the shop that i had my eye on (cart only). the day i was going to buy it, some kid walks in and out of allllllll the used carts we had, he picks that one because (as his mom tolld me) "he just LOVES robots!" as for me, i looked at him, looked at her and smiled as i said "what about dinosaurs, kids LOVE dinosaurs too!" LOL . of course, they didn't budge, and made me test the cart to make sure it worked, to add salt to the wound...

we actually got a NEW one in about 2 weeks later, and the day before i was going to buy it, rick ocasek walks in for his twice monthly game buying trip, and picked it up (D'OH!) and a bunch of other stuff for his kid... ah well... i'll get to play it one day...

Jasoco
06-04-2004, 10:13 PM
made me test the cart to make sure it worked, to add salt to the wound...It's easy to make a game not work. If you put it in but left it partially unconnected, turn on the N64 and it doesn't boot. Light comes on the console, black screen. Say something along the lines of "Hmm.. doesn't seem to want to work." Take it out and pretend to fiddle with it, put it back in the same way. It's all in the presentation. ;)

ManekiNeko
06-04-2004, 10:33 PM
heh- i didn't forget it, i actually never played more than ten seconds of it! long story short dept. when i was a game slave a couple of years ago, we had a used one in the shop that i had my eye on (cart only). the day i was going to buy it, some kid walks in and out of allllllll the used carts we had, he picks that one because (as his mom tolld me) "he just LOVES robots!" as for me, i looked at him, looked at her and smiled as i said "what about dinosaurs, kids LOVE dinosaurs too!" LOL . of course, they didn't budge, and made me test the cart to make sure it worked, to add salt to the wound...

we actually got a NEW one in about 2 weeks later, and the day before i was going to buy it, rick ocasek walks in for his twice monthly game buying trip, and picked it up (D'OH!) and a bunch of other stuff for his kid... ah well... i'll get to play it one day...

Rick Ocasek? You mean the guy from The Cars?! I'm sorry about your run of bad luck, but at least you got to meet celebrity customers. The only ones I get here at the computer repair store are a random assortment of cranky rednecks and uptight yuppies.

JR

geelw
06-04-2004, 10:33 PM
made me test the cart to make sure it worked, to add salt to the wound...It's easy to make a game not work. If you put it in but left it partially unconnected, turn on the N64 and it doesn't boot. Light comes on the console, black screen. Say something along the lines of "Hmm.. doesn't seem to want to work." Take it out and pretend to fiddle with it, put it back in the same way. It's all in the presentation. ;)

heh...given that i'm generally an honest guy and was in the business to actually make money and not have customers NOT shop at the store because our used games (which we guaranteed to work, and had a sign that said so) didn't work.... that really wouldn't be a good idea. it was also a slow-ass day, so we needed the money as well... ;)

Jasoco
06-04-2004, 10:36 PM
heh...given that i'm generally an honest guy and was in the business to actually make money and not have customers NOT shop at the store because our used games (which we guaranteed to work, and had a sign that said so) didn't work.... that really wouldn't be a good idea. it was also a slow-ass day, so we needed the money as well... ;)But you said you were gonna buy it anyway! The store would still get the money. Hell, don't use your Discount if you have to.

grayrobertos
06-04-2004, 10:56 PM
why hasnt anyone mentioned carmagedon? thats the horibilist game ive ever played in my life on any console and is not even close to the pc version and theres nothing to make you think that they where the same game. im sure it was 1 fps or something true horibileness.

I thought forsaken was a pretty solid game, smooth graphics at the time really decenty and the multiplayer was playable and me and me frieds peob got a bit of fun out of it if I remember it scored about 80%?

All of the old games look horible when comparing them directly to games of 2day but I find that after you play say pdark for a while your eyes will ajust and ull forget about framerates and play it like the great game that it was.

Aussie2B
06-04-2004, 11:25 PM
I keep wondering what happened to my choice of Dual Heroes (or as I call it, Mighty Morphine Powered Rangers) as one of the worst games on the N64. I could have sworn that I posted SOMETHING here!

The artist who designed the Dual Heroes characters is the same person who designed the Power Rangers, so that explains that similarity.

Ed Oscuro
06-04-2004, 11:42 PM
why hasnt anyone mentioned carmagedon? thats the horibilist game ive ever played in my life on any console and is not even close to the pc version
I just saw a copy of the PC game at a a thrift. I'd be embarassed to have them check that out. That's pretty much my definition of "you had this box printed WHY?"


I thought forsaken was a pretty solid game
Looked cool to me, never played it though ;)


All of the old games look horible when comparing them directly to games of 2day but I find that after you play say pdark for a while your eyes will ajust and ull forget about framerates
I know; it's pretty funny how I turn my nose up now at 30 FPS framerates, but I can still play '64 games for a while. Heh heh.

geelw
06-05-2004, 12:30 AM
But you said you were gonna buy it anyway! The store would still get the money. Hell, don't use your Discount if you have to.

x_x oy gevalt... x_x

ManekiNeko
06-05-2004, 12:39 AM
I admire your moral fortitude, Greg. There will always be other opportunities for you to get that game, without the burden of a guilty conscious.

JR

NintendoMan
06-05-2004, 02:12 PM
Personally I think the PS1, Saturn, and N64 have all aged terribly, at least in the 3D department. That said, Forsaken really did suck something terrible. I wouldn't call it the worst on the platform, but it's down there.

Personally, the only worthwile wrestling game on the N64 at this point is still WWF No Mercy. Although the graphics may have aged, the gameplay is still considered to be the best.

You didn't like WCW VS. NWO, or Revenge, or Wrestlemania 2000. I guess they all seemed like the same game to me, well sort of. They were all made by THQ. That's the only game company I will buy wrestling games from.

ubersaurus
06-05-2004, 02:30 PM
I don't know how to explain it. With Goldeneye, the frame rate with four people playing and power weapons is simply horrible. It's like listening to a CD that skips. 2-D games can get away with it, but when it's a 3-D game that requires aiming, dodging, and strategy, two frames a second or less isn't going to cut it. It works reasonably well on weapons like pistols. But with Power Weapons and exploding weapons, it's wretched. Although I admit that I still dig the one player mode very much.

Perfect Dark on the other hand, the one player mode has always been broken. The frame rate is pathetic, and it throws off everything. Four player death matches still hold up somewhat, but it's impossible to add sims without it bogging down. one on one isn't so bad and one player with eight bots is still good. But for those who bought Perfect Dark as party game, like me, it never held up as much because of that blasted frame rate. I would have loved it as a Cube game. Let's hope the Xbox version that's never going to be released is decent.

I never had a problem with PD's framerate, but then, I always kept the game on lo-res mode for that reason. I'm willing to sacrifice definition for gameplay, and when you do that, the game works fine. It's still a great multiplayer game, back before any of my friends got Halo, we'd play that and have a blast in the warehouse, shooting fly by wire rockets around. Some of the weapons in that game were really cool, and all the customization you got in multiplayer rocked. I just wish it had some larger levels then what were in there.

4 player goldeneye multiplayer+4 RCP-90s + all firing at the same time= machine freezes up.