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TheScaryOne
06-08-2004, 09:24 PM
Is it me or is Halo overrated?
Last night I was hanging out with some of my friends, and I brought my X-Box. Well the first thing they said was "Put in Halo". Well we played Halo for an hour, then while they took a break, I played Metal Slug 3. All they said was "Man this game is so stupid". Then they played Halo more. Sure, it's a great game, but it is so overrated. Whats your thoughts?

ghostangelofcky
06-08-2004, 09:28 PM
Halo is a really cool game, but yeah. I don't really understand the It's the coolest game ever bs. Oh, and dude, if they said Metal Slug 3 was dumb, I'd get new freinds. :devilish:

ghost

MarioAllStar2600
06-08-2004, 09:29 PM
I think its overrated. Good fun game but it doesn't separate itself from most FPS in my mind. The multiplayer is cool, and thats why everyone loves it so much.

TheScaryOne
06-08-2004, 09:40 PM
Well they aren't hardcore gamers, so they don't understand the finer points to gaming, but I agree, multiplayer is pretty fun.

gamegirl79
06-08-2004, 09:56 PM
I like playing Halo but yeah, it is overrated. Maybe that's because I prefer FPS games on pc though. A LAN party puts any Halo Xbox setup to shame. :evil:

NE146
06-08-2004, 10:10 PM
Count me in as a "Halo is overrated" camp. I think it's a good game. All time great? nah.

charitycasegreg
06-08-2004, 10:19 PM
MEE!!!! I hate how everyone thinks its the greatest game, there is even this club at school where people play halo. I think the game is a little fun but not great.

tholly
06-08-2004, 10:38 PM
i think it is a really really fun game, and i have my preorder in for halo 2, but if any of my buddies see me playing some other games like Cubivore for example they just make fun and ask why i play dumb games like that, but if Halo is in, everyone loves it and wants to play

ubersaurus
06-08-2004, 10:46 PM
Halo's a great game. Single player isn't the best, but the story is definitely cool. Multiplayer is where it shines-by limiting you to two weapons and making you move at a more human pace, it makes the game so much more fun then games like Unreal, at least to me. I like the vehicles, I like how you can grenade at all times, and I like the alien designs. Halo 2 looks totally kickass, but the first one is definitely good, and worth all the love it gets.

hezeuschrist
06-08-2004, 11:10 PM
Having just finished Halo for the first time last night, I must say it's a much better game than I ever gave it credit for. It was really a fun time the whole way through, and it took me a couple weeks to get through it. Just played at a leisurely pace and had fun.

I still think it's overrated, but it is indeed a great game.

Crush Crawfish
06-08-2004, 11:15 PM
Halo is definitely overrated. Metal Slug 3, However, is deserving of every word of praise it gets. That game ROCKS!!!!!

NintendoMan
06-08-2004, 11:33 PM
MEE!!!! I hate how everyone thinks its the greatest game, there is even this club at school where people play halo. I think the game is a little fun but not great.

I also HATE how so many people like that game. :angry: I do however think its an ok game, I guess because I love FPS's, but still can't stand when people compare it to one of the greatest games ever or something. The game to me is just alright, barely.

Richter Belmount
06-09-2004, 12:49 AM
I dont , just doesnt get old for me to pump lead into a elite , but next gen gaming can make obnoxious fanboys.

tonyvortex
06-09-2004, 01:21 AM
i will always prefer playing timesplitters 2 when my friends are over.

thegreatescape
06-09-2004, 01:28 AM
Ive only played the PC demo, so my thoughts may be a little skewed, but...

Im the complete opposite of what most people have said: I thought single-player had the best story-line and overall immersion of any FPS for a long time, but multiplayer was kind of... dull. Deathmatch and CTF ? They are sooo 1997 :roll:

Timesplitters definatley has Halo beat for multiplayer IMO

Half Japanese
06-09-2004, 01:28 AM
I tend to think people pile on the praise a little heavy, but you can't deny that it is a great game that has enormous replay value. In fact, it's one of the top games this generation as far as replay value goes. I had a Halo LAN just last night with a few buddies and it's great fun. I'm not a huge fan and don't even have the second on preorder (yet), but I think a lot of people just can't look past the logo on the console. Then again, there are always those that hate anything that gets too popular (something I myself have been guilty of before). Great game, yes. Overhyped and exaggerated...yes.


The post before mine got through while I was typing mine up, so I'll go ahead and agree....the CTF in Halo is terrible. In fact, it's probably the worst version of CTF I've ever played. That said, the best fun on Halo is creating custom gametypes, my favorites are:

Rockets only (and 'nades) with the radar OFF - This is just constant mayhem. If you're able to get on a killing spree in this one you're really doing something.

Oddball Teams(Juggernaut on) with radar OFF - First person to get a kill becomes "it" and you only get points when you get a frag while "it." Team play kicks this one up and makes it incredibly fun. Being "it" is transferred when someone kills the current "it."

kai123
06-09-2004, 01:29 AM
I love Halo more than most games out right now. I can't imagine if the Xbox would be in the position it is in now without it. I can't imagine so many people hating on this game though. :hmm: Maybe some people are hating on the Xbox. :)

wcmiker
06-09-2004, 01:35 AM
I don't think it's overated. It never gets old for me, and I still play it a ton to this day. Some of my best gaming memories involve Halo.

Lord_Magus
06-09-2004, 02:22 AM
Microsoft needed a killer game to boost the sales of the mediocre XBoX. Being one of the most powerful companies in the world, they can easily make a game sound much better than it actually is. Remember the golden rule of marketing: the public believes anything you tell it over 3 times :D

I played Halo on my PC, and although it was a pretty enjoyable experience, I was constantly waiting throughout the game to see why it was praised as one the best games of our generation. Having high expectations usually leads to disppointment, and this was the case with my overall experience with Halo.

"Best game of our generation"? I'm sorry Halo, that honor is reserved for Metroid Prime :)

ubersaurus
06-09-2004, 02:40 AM
Ive only played the PC demo, so my thoughts may be a little skewed, but...

Im the complete opposite of what most people have said: I thought single-player had the best story-line and overall immersion of any FPS for a long time, but multiplayer was kind of... dull. Deathmatch and CTF ? They are sooo 1997 :roll:

Timesplitters definatley has Halo beat for multiplayer IMO

Why's this?

Timsplitters 2 was impossible to snipe with an actual sniper rifle in...so I sniped with a tommy gun. A TOMMY GUN. The fact everyone moved like the flash was really lame too. I don't know, but TS2 just seemed like a pisspoor wannabe of goldeneye.

Nez
06-09-2004, 02:58 AM
I think I'm one of only 5 people who own an Xbox and not Halo. That being said, I do not like Halo. I have played all the way though single player, I have played at a lan, and I have little to like about it.

The level designs blow, the auto rifle is too powerfull and ctf was very bad for multiplayer. So IMO it is VERY over rated.

LAGO
06-09-2004, 03:35 AM
I think I'm one of only 5 people who own an Xbox and not Halo.

I guess that makes me the 2nd out of five ... now if we can only find the other 3.

I played the game though ... it's alright, nothing spectacular but it looked pretty solid IMO.

Spottedkitty
06-09-2004, 04:06 AM
For me it is possibly a little overrated but only a little. I love it because It's what brought me back into gaming and collecting bigtime. Not since Half-Life have I had such an immersive feeling when playing a game.

Until I moved to my current house I'd been going through a pretty quiet patch Game wise. I didn't have enough cash to upgrade my PC to play the current crop of games at a decent rate and I wasn't all that interested in what the consoles at the time had to offer (or so I thought at the time anyway...now is a different matter :D ) so I wasn't really interested in it at first. Then I moved and one of my housemates convinced me to play Co-op mode, really if it wasn't for that I suspect I'd be joining some of you in the "It's overrated" camp.

My jaw just dropped. I was hooked pretty much from the get go. Loved the look and feel, the two-gun system and the difficulty seemed to be set just right. However what *really* sold me at the time was how un-intentioanly funny the game could be. My fondest memory of that first play was in the Truth and Reconciliation. I was at the bottom of one of the corridors waiting for my friend to catch up because he was mopping up a few leftover grunts when I see a blip on the radar...I chance my luck and bounce a plasma grenade off the thinking I'd at least rouse them into rounding the corner. Instead what I hear is the small squal of a grunt shouting "Oh no! Not again!" followed by the blue light waving back and forth in the corridor then a short blast and several weapons flying past me and hitting the opposite wall. If it hadn't hooked me then, that clinched it.

Since that time I've played it through on my own on Legendary and love some of the firefights you cna get into, especially with the Elites. The last level with the Warthog is also a nice change of pace. We've also got three XBoxes in this household and one friend that ocassionally brings his around and for multi-play Halo is always one that gets dragged out.

And as for Metroid Prime? Sorry, Lord_Magus but that *is* one game I believe to be overrated. :) Dull as heck..I lasted only a few hours before taking it right back to Game and swapping it for Sonic Mega Collection.

AdoptApet
06-09-2004, 05:53 AM
I dont think Halo is overrated.

I do think its the most discussed game of all time that people arent allowed to like.

thegreatescape
06-09-2004, 08:27 AM
Ive only played the PC demo, so my thoughts may be a little skewed, but...

Im the complete opposite of what most people have said: I thought single-player had the best story-line and overall immersion of any FPS for a long time, but multiplayer was kind of... dull. Deathmatch and CTF ? They are sooo 1997 :roll:

Timesplitters definatley has Halo beat for multiplayer IMO

Why's this?

Timsplitters 2 was impossible to snipe with an actual sniper rifle in...so I sniped with a tommy gun. A TOMMY GUN. The fact everyone moved like the flash was really lame too. I don't know, but TS2 just seemed like a pisspoor wannabe of goldeneye.

Actually im referring to the original Timesplitters, though it hasnt aged well at all :embarrassed:

Its funny that you mention Goldeneye, because i think thats even more overrated than Halo. I didnt get to play it much in its heyday, but even then i couldnt see what the fuss was about. Having played it a bit more last year i still couldnt understand. Its slow, ugly and the n64 controller does no favours for me.

EDIT: oh yea, and apparently the company that worked on TS has some of the people that worked on Goldeneye (i think its a breakaway company of rare), so that might explain the "influence" :)

VACRMH
06-09-2004, 09:14 AM
Yep, totally overrated.

I've played it quite alot (friends house, PC) and while it is a good game, it's not "WOAHMG BEST.GAME.EVAR!!1!1"

Hep038
06-09-2004, 10:01 AM
Ok this is a little OT , but why would you hate a game because everybody likes it? Now some of my friends hated Animal Crossing because they did not like it but me and three of my other friends did and we would talk about it all the time. Now I can see there point of view, a game they dont like is cutting into there "game talk time". But to hate a game because people you dont know think its the greatest game of all time? Maybe I just have bigger problems to worry about than most people.

Escape•From•Jenny•Island
06-09-2004, 10:36 AM
Halo is a good game. It is one of the best for Xbox, and it is one of the better First Person Shooters arround.

But it is VERY Overrated. I think all the action loving "GTA generation" of kids who got an Xbox for christmas were pissed that it was the only good game to get at the time. So they turned a negative to a possitive. And since the majority of them are those who still shun GCN for its "Kiddy Games" they never bothered with the other great launch title "Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee".

ubersaurus
06-09-2004, 03:27 PM
I think I'm one of only 5 people who own an Xbox and not Halo. That being said, I do not like Halo. I have played all the way though single player, I have played at a lan, and I have little to like about it.

The level designs blow, the auto rifle is too powerfull and ctf was very bad for multiplayer. So IMO it is VERY over rated.

Huh?

The assault rifle sucks dude. Probalbl the 2nd worst weapon in the game. it does no damage unless you're at point blank range, and at tht range, the shotgun and even the pistol to an extent are far better options. The PISTOL is the most powerful weapon in the game, because of how well it complements everything else. You have to use strategy in what weapons you take, and the pistole is a great choice to any weapon, since it can do close, medium, and even distance sniping pretty well.

And how is CTF bad for multiplayer? My friends and I play it all the time, and I've never had problems with it, except when the ghosts and tank were turned on. Of course, assault mode CTF when you take turns on offense is really friggin cool, and alot more fun.

Hep038
06-09-2004, 04:30 PM
Yeah me and my friends call the Halo assault rifle "The Klobb" from golden eye. I think 30 of the 60 rounds in the clip are blanks.

ManekiNeko
06-09-2004, 04:41 PM
I haven't really played Halo, or seen nearly enough of it to form any sort of opinion of it. However, I will say this... the full body suits on this week's episode of Pulse were AWESOME. They were inspired by Halo, and I'll be spammed if they weren't identical to the armor in the game. Cosplay gets a bad rap, but if every handmade costume were as good as the Halo armor these guys designed, people would be a lot more openminded about it.

JR

Daniel Thomas
06-09-2004, 05:00 PM
Halo is, I'm sure, a good game, especially on the XBox, since truly good console FPS' are so rare. However, I don't think it's worth the hype. For me, it was the death of a thousand cuts.

It bugged me that the guns were so damned big. The rocket launcher takes up the whole right side of the screen! Did I mention that it only holds two rockets, and takes five seconds to reload? There really aren't very many good weapons in the game; certainly not the variety you'd get in Quake or UT.

The single-player mode was pretty good, but the save points were always at awkward spots, making you restart at the moment you get overwhelmed. There was one early mission that involved protecting a squad of Marines, whose training apparantly involved standing in the open and taking bullets. Augh.

The multiplayer maps just aren't very balanced. Driving vehicles is fun, but it all comes down to whoever has the biggest guns. If you're on foot, you're screwed. At least in UT2004, you can bring down a vehicle with the right weapons. And Halo doesn't even have anything in the way of classic deathmatch/ctf maps. I miss Quake. Where the hell is Quake 4? Is that all this comes down to?

I also miss Goldeneye, easily the best console FPS ever made. Loads of maps, tons of options, you could tweak anything. And you didn't need 40,000-polygon levels to make a good multiplayer shootout, dagnabbit.

ubersaurus
06-09-2004, 06:56 PM
Because I'm at work and bored to tears, I'm going to cover your various complaints ;)

As for weapon variety, yes, 10 weapons does seem a bit small, but to be honest when you can only carry two, having a massive variety isn't as noticeable. You have to think about what weapons you take-shotgun and sniper rifle may seems like a good idea, except that anyone at medium range is going to kick your ass, especially if they have a rocket launcher. And as for the rocket launcher only having 2 shots and a long reload time, that's a good thing. Try playing CTF assault in sidewinder when a guy has a rocket launcher in the base, and you'll realize that if they had any more ammo, or a faster reload, you'd never make it. They slowed that thing down for balance purposes, so whoring the rocket launcher isn't as big a deal as it is in other FPSs.

Riding vehicles isn't always a smart choice, either. Gulch and Sidewinder, the main vehicle stages, are both full of good hiding spots for snipers to pick someone out of the vehicles in 1 or 2 bullets. Rockets work well, of course, but it's possible to take down any vehicle on foot, with some ingenuity. The Shotgun is a good choice, and the crappy accuracy of the assault rifle is offset by the large side of the vehicles. Plasma weapons can stun the driver and make turning hell on earth, as well as tear through shields to make killing them easier with a second weapon. And of course, pistol shooting the driver is smart as well. Don't forget you can duck under a speeding ghost, and jump over an approaching jeep. As for the tank, it's just a matter of using the terrain to your advantage. I've taken out a tank using just a plasma pistol because I was able to keep cover between me and it's big gun. The only real problematic vehicle on foot is a jeep with a gunner in the back, and you without a rocket launcher. If you have some distance, you can generally pistol snipe the gunner right out, and then finish the job on the driver.

I want to hear your idea of a classic CTF map. And goldeneye's multi was way limited, especially in comparison to perfect dark (which blows halo out of the water in terms of multiplayer options). let's not forget how crappy alot of goldeneye's multiplayer maps really are, and how badly power weapons dominated (and froze the system).

I won't say Halo's multiplayer is perfect, but I will say that I enjoy the pacing of it far, far, FAR more then any other FPS's.

Cmosfm
06-09-2004, 08:48 PM
You know what scares me most? Seeing HALO 2 go down as the best selling game ever on release day. Don't think it will happen? Mark My Word...it will.

Either way, I played it, I can't stand it. I don't see why it's so great because it seemed like just another damn FPS to me. Though everyone I talk to says it's the multiplayer that makes it so great.

VERY OVERRATED!

norkusa
06-09-2004, 10:48 PM
I gotta be the only person in the world that owns an Xbox and has never even played Halo before. Playing FPS's make me physically ill and want to vomit, so I'll probably never play Halo ever.

xenu
06-10-2004, 12:54 PM
I would have to say that Halo is a tad overrated. The multiplayer is fun, but not for very long, and I'd still much rather play Goldeneye for N64.

Hep038
06-10-2004, 01:14 PM
You know what scares me most? Seeing HALO 2 go down as the best selling game ever on release day.


So tell me what is scary about this? I am assumeing that all the people that own Halo will be buying it, and the new people buying it will be cancled out buy the people who bought it before and did not like it. Is that going to kill the Video game market? or make more "causal gamers".

AdoptApet
06-12-2004, 03:50 AM
Why do people like Mario and Link so much? I personally think they are the 2 dumbest looking game characters of all time. But the thing is people do like them and people like myself like Halo for the same reason.

I think the characters and story of Halo kickass.

I'm not into computers so this was the first game that I got to play with 7 of my other friends at the same time.

ianoid
06-13-2004, 05:44 PM
OK, Halo's overrated, but then again so is Tetris if you hate puzzlers.

Halo is a great FPS. There, I said it. If you want to run and jump and spaz and pump and spaz and run, go ahead and Tournament or Arena yourself. I think Halo's strength was in it's story line. It had tons of weaknesses, but I'll focus on why it was a nose in front of the rest of FPSes.

Controls- for a console FPS it was excellent. FPSes without a mouse seemed like a lose cause, but the controls worked really well. I even liked driving, as weird as it was. It

Storyline- for a computer game, it got you somewhat involved. Drop you off in the middle of nowhere. Take on a base, an enemy ship, an enemy outpost. Nice little goals. Nice environments. Yes it did get redundant at times, but overall pretty good. It's nice to be called the Master Chief somewhere in your life, instead of the Master Sh!t.

Life- I don't know the FPS genre that well, but the self-rejuvenating armor was a really welcome substitution for the randomly dispersed medkits I'm used to hunting down in most games. Of course you need to pick stuff up, but most of the time you fight, you just notice you're in the red and hide for a minute or two.

Enemies- nothing's better than shooting at human controlled enemies, although I beg to differ on that long held assertion. It's hard to find a balanced online/multiplayer experience. The aliens in Halo have few solid moves and some actually have reasonable AI. The mutants got a little redundant, but overall, the single player experience wasn't a wash. Strategy was generally a must with higher levels. I must complains that the marines were a bunch of useless meatheads that you might do better to shoot yourself than try to save.



Look, the game isn't the best ever, it's just a Best of Show type of title that showcased the hardware with a solid title. Best of Show is a yearly thing. It's not the end all be all to video games.

My rating: 9.5/10.

Johnny Black
06-13-2004, 06:08 PM
Halo is ridiculously overrated. I don't see what's so great about it. I admit, multi-player can be fun, but the single player, I just don't like. Not to mention Unreal Tourney owns Halo in every way, shape, and form.

Also, if I ever get an X-Box, I'll be getting it for the Silent Scope Collection with the Sniper Rifle Light Gun. I have way more fun with that than I'd ever have with Halo.

tholly
06-13-2004, 06:13 PM
Halo is ridiculously overrated. I don't see what's so great about it. I admit, multi-player can be fun, but the single player, I just don't like. Not to mention Unreal Tourney owns Halo in every way, shape, and form.


well, Unreal Tournamnet may "own" Halo in multiplayer.....but, you just cant play UT by yourself....and that gives halo a huge advantage....strong single player...and strong multiplayer......plus, its a lot cheaper to own an xbox, game, and controllers, than a top of the line PC with every possible option to get the best graphics for UT.....and UT on consoles just sucks

Johnny Black
06-13-2004, 06:15 PM
Halo is ridiculously overrated. I don't see what's so great about it. I admit, multi-player can be fun, but the single player, I just don't like. Not to mention Unreal Tourney owns Halo in every way, shape, and form.


well, Unreal Tournamnet may "own" Halo in multiplayer.....but, you just cant play UT by yourself....and that gives halo a huge advantage....strong single player...and strong multiplayer......plus, its a lot cheaper to own an xbox, game, and controllers, than a top of the line PC with every possible option to get the best graphics for UT.....and UT on consoles just sucks

I play UT by myself all the time. I think it's great single player.Also, I happen to like UT on PS2 and DreamCast.

-hellvin-
06-13-2004, 10:22 PM
Halo blows. It just does.

Why the fuck do you want to walk around in a building that has 10 floors that all look the same and blast the same enemies over and over? It has no variety or intriguing level design. Terrible.

Lemmy Kilmister
06-13-2004, 10:33 PM
I didn't like Halo at all and thought it was one of the worst games i played in years. To be fair though i never played it multiplayer. Though when a game is that generic and blah to begin with i don't see how that would change my veiw. Luckly for me i trade my copy of halo for some super famicom games.

kai123
06-13-2004, 11:45 PM
I would hate to see what all the Halo haters think a good game is. :o I think most of it is frustration towards Microsoft. They had an excellent game ready for launch and it suprised the hell out of most everyone.

ianoid
06-14-2004, 06:08 PM
I would hate to see what all the Halo haters think a good game is. :o I think most of it is frustration towards Microsoft. They had an excellent game ready for launch and it suprised the hell out of most everyone.

Hating things can sometimes be misconstrued for having a personality.

Not that Halo isn't hateable, but it's hard to say that UT even in the same realm for 1 player.

As far as repetition, there are some repetitive levels. I just don't think there's anything less repetitive out there. Designing a game with 20 hours or more of game play entails repetition of some sort of a design cycle beyond reason.

I don't need to defend Halo, but I think there are just alot of haters out there who probably couldn't argue the point for crap if reason entered into it. Halo isn't god, but it's a pretty solid title.

jonjandran
06-14-2004, 09:31 PM
Well I really enjoyed reading this thread.

It made me laugh LOL

I mean do some of you guys even believe the crap you say ?

It's a game. If you love it you love it, if you hate it you hate it. But who the heck can say if it's overated ?

And By Crackie you guys better listen to me , you crazy whipper-snappers.