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[NEOryu]

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[aaron_157]

any chance we can make this a sticky???

[SirDrexl]

Talk about a disappointing thread title! Next time put "Petition for" in the title, or at least add a question mark. :)

Anyway, good luck in your endeavor. I think they should have released the games as a compilation in the first place on all the systems, instead of making certain titles exclusive to one platform.

[digitalpress]

any chance we can make this a sticky???

Done...


Talk about a disappointing thread title! Next time put "Petition for" in the title, or at least add a question mark.

... and done.

[Gamereviewgod]

Great idea and all, but I agree with SNK Playmore here. Lets face it. Most gamers today won't even give a second look to any of their games and these ttiles are left to groups like us. The GC is slowly dying and Sega coludn't even get a mainstream football title to sell on it. How could a niche title like MS sell?

Lets also consider that if they did release it, I'd still go for either the PS2 of X-Box versions since the PS2 has the best of the D-Pads and the 'Box has Live. It's just not a logical buisness move on their end.

[Captain Wrong]

Lets face it. Most gamers today won't even give a second look to any of their games and these ttiles are left to groups like us. The GC is slowly dying and Sega coludn't even get a mainstream football title to sell on it. How could a niche title like MS sell?

Lets also consider that if they did release it, I'd still go for either the PS2 of X-Box versions since the PS2 has the best of the D-Pads and the 'Box has Live. It's just not a logical buisness move on their end.

Exactly.

Honestly, I know you may disagree with this, but I think SNK is doing the right thing. These games aren't exactly million sellers on systems where they are more likely to find their audience. What makes you think releasing these games for a system that, like it or not, attracts an audience less likely to be interested in 2D games would be a smart move?

I know, I know. Everyone here who has a Gamecube is going to say "I have a Gamecube, I like 2D, I'd buy this." Ok, fine, but you're a small fraction of the total Gamecube owners. I don't remember Ikaruga storming the sales charts, and I think that's in the same league of what we're talking here. Living system, dying system, or on life support, the fact of the matter is the audience for this type of game is dwindling period, and it doesn't exactly seem to be on the GC.

Also, I always have to ask this question, does anyone have any real proof of an on-line petition changing anything? It seems like I've read things from companies explicitly stating that on-line petitions mean nothing to them but they will respond to a written one.

Not trying to say you're wrong here, just playing devil's advocate. I'd like to see these games reach as wide an audience, but I also want to see SNK make intelligent decisions to insure they're around for a long time. I just don't think throwing money into releasing games on a platform where it's highly unlikely they'll sell well is not the direction they should go.

Good luck to you though. :)

[-hellvin-]

Great idea and all, but I agree with SNK Playmore here. Lets face it. Most gamers today won't even give a second look to any of their games and these ttiles are left to groups like us. The GC is slowly dying and Sega coludn't even get a mainstream football title to sell on it. How could a niche title like MS sell?

Lets also consider that if they did release it, I'd still go for either the PS2 of X-Box versions since the PS2 has the best of the D-Pads and the 'Box has Live. It's just not a logical buisness move on their end.

Wow, very well said. I'm in total agreement as well. I think it would be better ported to nintendo's GBA anyways...I wish they were putting out the whole series on it.

[Neil Koch]

I was part of a site/petition that was asking for Miramax to release an uncut/subitled version of Shaolin Soccer. It did seem to work, as the DVD is going to be released uncut and in Chinese -- in fact, their press material even note the "internet fanbase". But our petiton got over 15,000 signatures and we got some mention in more mainstream publications like Wired and MSNBC.

[NEOryu]

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[tholly]

I respect almost everyone in these forums and I'll be the first to agree on disagreeing with the nay sayers. But what I've seen, from my experience, Nintendo is the company who pretty much started this industry and allot of Adults respect the company.

Allot of GAMECUBE owners, from what I've noticed, are in their 20's and 30's that remember the NES and remember how fun the old school 2D games were and stuck with Nintendo. They're not a bunch of next generation junkies looking for a 3D fix or 30-something guys with poor hygiene that sit in their apartments all day playing the latest version of Metal Gear Solid.

Allot of GAMECUBE owner's are the young Dad's and Mom's that bought a GAMECUBE, so their kids aren't playing HITMAN all day, and like to buy the old school games so they have something to play with on their family video game system. The games I've seen them buy are the one's that they remember enjoying on their old school systems or in the Arcades when they were teenagers.

Just because the GAMECUBE is stereotyped as a children's system doesn't mean their parents aren't buying games for themselves as a recreation. Say what you want but,

"A Metal Slug collection's game would be a perfect addition to the GAMECUBE library!"


metal slug is all about killing...the whole point is to shoot your enemies...what makes you think that parents will think this is a classic and buy it for their kids....i know it is a classic...and they could buy it and hide it and only play when the kids were not around.....but, that is unlikely...parents buy games for kids so they have an instant babysitter.....their lives are busy enough and most of them arent like us DPers that can find time to play videogames......

snk on the gc just isnt gonna happen....

[NEOryu]

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[tholly]

i know it is a classic...and they could buy it and hide it and only play when the kids were not around.....

I don't think you understood the post you quoted. :hmm:

I wasn't saying parents would buy it for their children, but then again Metal SLug Advance is coming out for the GBA, but really Metal Slug is about the video game equivalent to army men. Anyway, I meant that young parents (20's & 30's) would buy it for themselves, like all the other classic GC collections, to play on their Family system. And compared to "HITMAN", "METAL SLUG" isn't anything gory at all. Plus, as I'm sure most of you know the old-school collection games for GC sell better than the PS2 versions.

i understood....i said either parents buy the games for kids or they could buy it for themselves and hide the the game from their kids and only play it when the kids werent around, but, that is unlikely

[NEOryu]

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[RetroYoungen]

I'm leaning to agree with a couple of different people here. Metal Slug, in my opinion, would be a great addiction to ANY library, but I also must say that I would rather play it on a system like the XBox or the PS2, simply because of the controler being a bit more comfortable and controllable for the style of game. I also realize that it most likely wouldn't sell exceptionally well, due to it being a cult classic and not a mainstream success, and that's a bigger shame than selling less units than a big-name title.

And regarding kids playing it on the GC, if you can turn off the blood-splattering-ness and clean it up a bit, it probably wouldn't be too bad a deal for them. But maybe that's just me.

[NEOryu]

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[JJNova]

Instead of actually debating if it would work or not, I took my chances and wrote letters both to Nintendo of America and SNK. Not because I think it would make a difference, but because one more letter is one more letter that someone has to file under SNK and NINTENDO. I wrote the letters not because I think SNK will do it for the GameCube, or because I dont think it will happen, buit because I would LIKE to see it happen. A very large Metal Slug fan (It's the only reason I ever had MAME) and a GameCube owner (Because, honestly, I prefer it over my PS2) I would love to see this. I also agree that the GameCube controller would do it more justice than a D-Pad.

Just my Opinion. Thanks for Reading.

[Dobie]

I'm not sure that SNK has published ANYTHING on the Gamecube. I'd be surprised if that were to suddenly change as a result of an online petition. One would think that 3+ years would be enough time to accurately gauge the SNK company's desire to support the 'Cube.

[JJNova]

Hi there.

We at Nintendo can't tell SNK NeoGeo what to do, the same way we can't tell you what to do. If gamers would like a Metal Slug game for the Nintendo GameCube, you'll need to contact SNK NeoGeo to let them know. While every video game company I know of can't accept unsolicited ideas or suggestions for video games, it may help if they hear from tons of fans what they'd like to see.

Contact info for all licensee game companies, like SNK NeoGeo is on our web site. From the main page of nintendo.com, go to the bottom, click on Corporate, then Company Connections, and finally Licensee Game Companies. Plus, our web site also has a Game List to check out not only released games but upcoming games as well, from reviews to pics and sometimes even vid clips.

There you go. And if you haven't heard, nintendo.com's free My Nintendo program lets gamers opt to receive the latest Nintendo news via free e-mail newsletters, get members-only access, check subscriptions or orders, and more.

Nintendo of America Inc.
<name iwithheld because big companies scare me>

[Jasoco]

Petitions do not work. Period.

Exclamation point.

[NEOryu]

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[Lemmy Kilmister]

Petitions do not work. Period.

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A sad but true fact. Not that i wouldn't mind a metal slug collection i just don't see it happien anytime soon on a console. Their is a PC port of the first 4 (1,2,X and 3) games for korean pc but it just wouldn't be the same.

[NEOryu]

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[bluberry]

Petitions do not work. Period.

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[Overbite]

why not just buy it on whatever system it comes out for? unless the only system you own is the gc

[Zubiac666]

why not just buy it on whatever system it comes out for? unless the only system you own is the gc

rich kid?
there are actually people who CANNOT effort another system(me) or simply don't want another(me again)!

anyways...
I would love some snk ports on cube.
I already sent sevral e-mails and I will do it again!

and to proof you that it isn't impossible go here:
http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~mmcafe/forums/bbs/messages/20214.shtml

or read this quote:

As some people might already know, Ignition Entertainment Limited has recently signed a deal with SNK Playmore to be the publisher of SNK’s titles for the PS2, GBA and X-Box in Europe. Ignition Entertainment Limited is however, also interested in GCN development. Ben Herman, SNK Neo Geo USA Consumer Corporation president, comments that if Ignition does release titles for the GCN in the PAL territory, SNK Neo Geo USA would be more than happy to bring those same titles to the U.S.. Thus, SNK themselves are not interested in developing for the GCN as of yet, but if Ignition Entertaiment were to bring any of their titles to the GCN, SNK would be happy to put those out on the U.S. market

SHOW THEM YOUR INTEREST!
:evil:

[NEOryu]

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[Jasoco]

Petitions do not work. They are a huge waste of internet. They do not work. Don't even bother.

Emails may work, but petitions are not worth it.

[NEOryu]

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[Half Japanese]

Maybe myself and many others aren't so doubtful because we have met and talked with SNK NEOGEO USA Consumer Corporation's president, in person, and have been long-time fans of SNK, over 14years. We've spend Thousands of dollars supporting them. It's a small company and despite the contrary, Fans Do Matter to "SNK NEOGEO CORP."!!!


If you're such a "long-time fan" who "spend thousands of dollars supporting them," chances are you'd already have the superior versions already available for the Neo Geo home or MVS systems. Also, I have a hard time believing such a die-hard fan of 2D would opt for the Gamecube over the ps2. Plain and simple it wouldn't sell and would do more harm to getting other SNK games on the Gamecube than good.

As Burgess Merdith stated in Grumpy Old Men, "You can wish in one hand and shit in another and see which fills up first." I'm not trying to smack down an endeavor to accomplish something, just stating my (apparently mutual) feeling that it ain't gonna happen. Buy a ps2.

[Jasoco]

Also, I have a hard time believing such a die-hard fan of 2D would opt for the Gamecube over the ps2....Buy a ps2.You do realize Sony's on a quest to rid the gaming universe of all 2D gaming, right? I doubt Sony would okay a game like that if it were to come out today. Sony wants every game to be 3D. Besides, I'd buy a GameCube version before I even consider buying a PS2 version.

That said, I agree with some of your stuff.. If he is a Die hard fan, he'd already have the originals. What would he want another surely lesser quality version?

[NEOryu]

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[Zubiac666]

*signs*

[classicb]

Petitions do not work. They are a huge waste of internet. They do not work. Don't even bother.

Emails may work, but petitions are not worth it.

It worked for the Freaks and Geeks DVD set. The distributor actually stated that the some 38,000 online signitures was the reason they distributed it.

There's no reason not to sign it. We all like Metal Slug. It will either happen or it won't but there really is no reason not to try.

[Captain Wrong]

You do realize Sony's on a quest to rid the gaming universe of all 2D gaming, right?

And they drown kittens. And kick puppy dogs.

*sigh*

Remeber, Sony never said SNK couldn't release MS3 in the US. They just said they couldn't release it as a full priced release unless they bundled it with another game (similar to SNK's KOF pack.) SNK wouldn't do it and that's why we don't have MS3 for PS2 in the USA.

Agrue all you want about if that was a right decision (and frankly considering we're talking a 4 year old game running on early 90s hardware I think it was a correct decision) but if SNK really wanted to get the game into the fans hands, they had the power to do so.

Sorry for the de-rail.

[buttasuperb]

meh, just keep releasing games for xbox live

[Lemmy Kilmister]

If you're such a "long-time fan" who "spend thousands of dollars supporting them," chances are you'd already have the superior versions already available for the Neo Geo home or MVS systems.

I have spent quite a bit. Sometimes a MVS system (http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93710) takes just to much room. Plus one shouldn't have to spend $1000's to enjoy the game we know as Metal Slug. Allot of us see the potential of a GC release, that's why I'm not throwing in the towel...
BTW: Thanks everyone for your support! Keep up the emails and signatures! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/NEOryu/53d1b8e4.jpg

What the hell i'll sign it :)

By the way is that a Panasonic Q that i spied with my eye? :-P

[NEOryu]

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[Jasoco]

Seems there's a problem with the design of the Q in that the adapter for the WaveBird appears to be covering the slot a bit.. is it? Or is it just close, but not quite?

Wish I had a Q. Damn things are still $500. That's $400 for a DVD player. Waaaay too freaking much.

[JJNova]

SIGNED. And bring that bitch to the Gamecube!

*raises hand*
I vow to fully support this progress.

[NEOryu]

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[The Collector]

I signed it :D

[Jasoco]

Seems there's a problem with the design of the Q in that the adapter for the WaveBird appears to be covering the slot a bit.. is it? Or is it just close, but not quite?

No, the Wavebird receivers fit perfect and leave room for the memory cards.Actually, I meant the DVD tray slot.

[NEOryu]

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[Dreamscape]

Remeber, Sony never said SNK couldn't release MS3 in the US. They just said they couldn't release it as a full priced release unless they bundled it with another game (similar to SNK's KOF pack.) SNK wouldn't do it and that's why we don't have MS3 for PS2 in the USA.


So, we got it for XBOX, which IMO is better than the PS2.

[NEOryu]

Please sign the Petition once, only if you would buy a "Metal Slug" game for the GAMECUBE. Thanks Again!! Keep Up The Awesome Support!!!

[NEOryu]

So, we got it for XBOX, which IMO is better than the PS2.

The XBOX is good for only one thing and it's not for buying games that's for sure. Which is why that was a horrible mistake on SNK's part.

[Half Japanese]

You're absolutely correct. The Xbox is not good for "buying games" as it is neither a retail establishment nor a device I can use to browse the web, thus making it no good at "buying games." And I would think porting to GCN over Xbox would be a far worse mistake than what they have decided, as the userbase for the Xbox is larger than that for the Gamecube. I can understand that you really, really want the game, but being such a fanboy about it only hurts your cause in my opinion. Meanwhile, let me pop this Metal Slug demo in my Xbox (ooohh, demo, now there's another thing Nintendo lacks....).


I don't mean to sound like such an ass, but when one comes across as a fanboy they only encourage a little ribbing.


Also, I never said Sony were saints or they gave out free development licenses to publishers of 2D games, I was simply stating that there are more 2D games on the ps2 than there are on any other current console.

[Richter]

So, we got it for XBOX, which IMO is better than the PS2.

The XBOX is good for only one thing and it's not for buying games that's for sure. Which is why that was a horrible mistake on SNK's part.feh, aint getting my signature with that attitude

[Jasoco]

So, we got it for XBOX, which IMO is better than the PS2.

The XBOX is good for only one thing and it's not for buying games that's for sure. Which is why that was a horrible mistake on SNK's part.feh, aint getting my signature with that attitudeSuch a closed-minded individual, isn't he? :o

The fanboy in him becomes ever more clear.

[bluberry]

So, we got it for XBOX, which IMO is better than the PS2.

The XBOX is good for only one thing and it's not for buying games that's for sure. Which is why that was a horrible mistake on SNK's part.feh, aint getting my signature with that attitudeSuch a closed-minded individual, isn't he? :o

The fanboy in him becomes ever more clear.

CONCUR'D

[classicb]

interesting how this thread has taken such a negative turn.

I suggest you keep it about getting a new Metal Slug game and not bash on the other systems or you're likely to loose more support.

[NEOryu]

feh, aint getting my signature with that attitude

Nobody is trying to fool SNK by getting people to sign the petition. We simply would like to see one signature per person that would actually buy a Metal Slug game for Gamecube. It was just a fun idea that was flouting around amongst friends. And it's doing rather well so far. :)


Such a closed-minded individual, isn't he? :o

The fanboy in him becomes ever more clear.

I didn't mean to insult anyone with my statement about the XBOX. I'm sorry for assuming that everyone knew my point, which was:

Why would a company (SNK) release a game (that's dumped) for a system that can easily run romz by a simple modification (XBOX)? X_x


interesting how this thread has taken such a negative turn.

I was in no way intentionally trying to come off negative, I would be the last person that would resort to that type of ignorance. :)

[bluberry]

Simple mod? It wasn't that easy to do. And even then, GC/PS2/muffin owners can likely emulate it on PC.

[Dreamscape]

So, we got it for XBOX, which IMO is better than the PS2.

The XBOX is good for only one thing and it's not for buying games that's for sure. Which is why that was a horrible mistake on SNK's part.

Oh yea, you know I was going to sign your little petition because I like the GC and I like Metal Slug, seems like a perfect match, but you had to act like an ass. So tell me, if the XBOX is not good for games what is it good for? I'm done for now, I think I am going to enjoy a nice game of Metal Slug 3....... on my XBOX.

[Half Japanese]

I think I'll start a petition to get Mario Kart on the Xbox.

[NEOryu]

I can see some of you were just waiting for the ammo to try to attack me, considering you are replying to posts I made previous to my last post. :)


I think I am going to enjoy a nice game of Metal Slug 3....... on my XBOX.

Why is it supposed to be about me? Am I supposed to be jealous you going to play MS3 on your XBOX?
Oh, look close, I quoted you in the picture too. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/NEOryu/fb3c5863.jpg

This idea was brought up in a forum conversation and we want to see how many people really would support the idea. We truly believe it would do better on GC than the XBOX or PS2. I and others could careless what nay sayers think and that's why we made an Online petition for people the who would be interested.


I think I'll start a petition to get Mario Kart on the Xbox.

Come On, now I know you could of done better than that :D

Anyway, You guys are cool, you truly believe in your XBOX's, on this matter, just as I and others believe in the Gamecube, on this matter. I respect that 100%, and I'm not even being sarcastic either. 8-)

[bluberry]

It was the second best selling game on Xbox for two or three weeks in a row, behind Thief: Deadly Shadows. It also cracked the top 10 best selling Xbox games for June. You think it'd do a bit better on Cube? I think that for a 2D action game it did quite well on Xb.

[Richter]

I think I'll start a petition to get Mario Kart on the Xbox.*signs*

[NEOryu]

New Petition link. Unfortunately we lost all the signatures. @_@

http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/metalslug4gamecube

[Melf]

I respect almost everyone in these forums and I'll be the first to agree on disagreeing with the nay sayers. But what I've seen, from my experience, Nintendo is the company who pretty much started this industry and allot of Adults respect the company.

The industry is a lot older than the NES.


Allot of GAMECUBE owners, from what I've noticed, are in their 20's and 30's that remember the NES and remember how fun the old school 2D games were and stuck with Nintendo. They're not a bunch of next generation junkies looking for a 3D fix or 30-something guys with poor hygiene that sit in their apartments all day playing the latest version of Metal Gear Solid.

No, they're 20 or 30 year-old old school junkies who sat in their rooms all day playing the latest version of Mario and Sonic. Moreover, most of the generation you mentioned probably have a PS2 and/or an Xbox so this is just for nostalgia's sake?


Allot of GAMECUBE owner's are the young Dad's and Mom's that bought a GAMECUBE, so their kids aren't playing HITMAN all day, and like to buy the old school games so they have something to play with on their family video game system. The games I've seen them buy are the one's that they remember enjoying on their old school systems or in the Arcades when they were teenagers.

Buy them a GBA and a GBA Player. Problem solved.



Just because the GAMECUBE is stereotyped as a children's system

Sort of like how you stereotyped today's generation of gamers?


"A Metal Slug collection's game would be a perfect addition to the GAMECUBE library!"

With its meager 3rd party support that is constantly dwindling, I doubt it will happen.

[bluberry]

How can we view the signatures on that new petition?

[NEOryu]

Melf - that was an awesome post thanks for your time. :D


How can we view the signatures on that new petition?

It's more private, no viewing of the signatures. We can erase any bogus signatures that come along. Better for the people taking this petition seriously.

[JJNova]

I hope you don't mind, but I Quoted the Thread Topic post on

http://www.rottentomatoes.com

In their General Video Game forum and their Gamecube thread.

If so, let me know and I will pull it down. Just thought I would open it up to other people that might not visit these forums. ;)

[NEOryu]

I hope you don't mind, but I Quoted the Thread Topic

If so, let me know and I will pull it down.

That's completely cool. I noticed you even caught the updates, nice. 8-)

[NEOryu]

I must have overlooked this NEWS (http://www.cubed-3.co.uk/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2550url) about SNK/Ignition. Keep the signatures coming in folks! :D

[JJNova]

Beautiful

[bluberry]

Yayz. I hope they port MS1, 2, and X in a collection pack. It doesn't seem like SNK have plans to do that for Xbox.

I mean, seriously, screw 4 and 5.

[NEOryu]

Yayz. I hope they port MS1, 2, and X in a collection pack. It doesn't seem like SNK have plans to do that for Xbox.

I mean, seriously, screw 4 and 5.

Yay, but an ALL SIX Metal Slug collection pack would be the greatest! :D

[bluberry]

Well, they made a 1-3 and X collection in Korea for PC.

And seriously. Screw 4&5. XD

[NEOryu]

And seriously. Screw 4&5. XD

I can see your point with 4 and all it's recycling, but part 5 I think is pretty good. My personal favorite is 1, X, & 3 though. :D

[Dreamscape]

And seriously. Screw 4&5. XD

I can see your point with 4 and all it's recycling, but part 5 I think is pretty good. My personal favorite is 1, X, & 3 though. :D

MS3 is my favorite, still working on mission 5 (XBOX version). Never played 4 or 5, so I don't know. I would like to see a compilation of all 6 games though, that would be great. I would also like to see arcade ports. MSX on the Playstation was missing way too much, but we all know a perfect arcade port on the Cube is possible.

[bluberry]

5 wasn't that bad, but everything it did, 1 and 2 did better.

[NEOryu]

About 11 days ago we changed to a new Secure Online Petition site. We had no way to transfer the signatures from the old site to the new site, so please sign again.

Please visit here to Support the idea! :D Thanks!


http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/metalslug4gamecube/

[Lemmy Kilmister]

Not to sound like an ass man but how many times do i need to sign for it?

[NEOryu]

Not to sound like an ass man but how many times do i need to sign for it?

Well, on July 27th the Online Petition started on a site with very little privacy options. On August 3rd it was decided that a more Secure Online Petition site was in order, so before there were too many signatures, the Petition was move on 8-4-04, It was only moved once and will not be moved again. I updated this entire thread with the new Online Petition site. Sorry for any inconvenience.

BTW: Thanks for the support!