Take a look at this!!!!! How Rare is this?????? [Archive]

vintagegamecrazy

08-04-2004, 01:32 AM

I just found this today on the bay, it's not in the guide anywhere and there is no mention of it on the net anywhere!!! This definately looks like Grail Material!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8121770968&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

Qixmaster

08-04-2004, 01:36 AM

oh wow... there is hope for collecting in oregon. i'd like to know what type of contest it was for... very cool item.. it'd look sweet next to my woodgrain and vader system.

Xarthor

08-04-2004, 01:52 AM

That looks like it's in awesome condition. It'll probably go for a good price.

Not MY good price mind you- I'm broke.

-hellvin-

08-04-2004, 02:07 AM

That does look really nice. Is this really authentic? I've never even heard of one of these snow white systems before.

Kepone

08-04-2004, 02:29 AM

Methinks someone went overboard with the Krylon. :roll:

norkusa

08-04-2004, 02:36 AM

Methinks someone went overboard with the Krylon. :roll:

Yeah, really. Looks fake to me.

rxdoga

08-04-2004, 02:49 AM

Thats a really bad paint job. Look at black areas, you can see stray paint on them. Someone would have to be crazy to bid on that thing.

Nez

08-04-2004, 02:55 AM

Funny I dont see any stray paint. Looks like a damn good job if you ask me though. But then again could just be photographing well.

Daria

08-04-2004, 03:05 AM

Thats a really bad paint job. Look at black areas, you can see stray paint on them. Someone would have to be crazy to bid on that thing.

Pst... that's called glare.

:P

rxdoga

08-04-2004, 03:07 AM

I don't know about you but i clearly see white paint on the black rubber base on the close up of the bottom in upper right corner. A little too much paint was used in that well and has run down to rubber part. Request a close up pic of the top from the seller. :D

Cauterize

08-04-2004, 05:21 AM

hmmm the back looks real to me.... but i dont feel the front is quite right....
im 50/50 on wether its real or fake now lol

classic gamer

08-04-2004, 07:42 AM

I'm not very up on special editions but it appears to be a recent trend, last 10-15 years not the past 25 right?

Take a look at the serial number on the bottom (41568?) If there were 30000+ units (assuming they started at 10000) don't you think someone here would have at least seen one if not own one?

Darth Sensei

08-04-2004, 07:57 AM

This smells of the John Deere version 2600 that's already made the rounds.

D

anagrama

08-04-2004, 08:17 AM

I like the way that the seller states "WE ARE TRYING TO GATHER A RARITY VALUE FROM ATARIAGE", despite the fact that most of the responses in the relevant AA thread (http://atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=54973) also think it's a fake.

NoahsMyBro

08-04-2004, 08:39 AM

I suspect it's fake as well. However, and the one thing that keeps me from being sure it's bogus, is the switch panel. Assuming the white is from some paint job, how did the person doing the job preserve such perfect labels on the switch panel - the 'Tele Games', the thin parallel lines forming the arrows next to the switches, etc.... I can't believe a person could paint around those lines so perfectly, and I don't know how a person could recreate those graphics on the panel.

It's been a long time since I disassembled a 2600. Is there some sort of transparent layer with the graphics on it, overlaying a panel below that could have been painted? I don't think that's the case, but it's the only thing I coudl think of to explain this.

maxlords

08-04-2004, 08:45 AM

Could this be a Brazillian pirate of some sort? "Tele-games" makes me think so. It doesn't look like a legit system. Why would it say "Tele-games" on the top and not on the bottom?

tholly

08-04-2004, 08:50 AM

can you say....Spray Paint....

MarioAllStar2600

08-04-2004, 09:14 AM

Seems like bull to me. But like Jasaco pointed out the writing. That just doesn't make sense. Yea it looks cool, but seems like a scam to me. I definatly dont think it was given away in a contest. Maybe a pirate system. I am thinking that it might be that, but one of us would have seen it by now (?)

sisko

08-04-2004, 09:43 AM

Could this be a Brazillian pirate of some sort? "Tele-games" makes me think so. It doesn't look like a legit system. Why would it say "Tele-games" on the top and not on the bottom?

The unit is without a doubt the Sears Telegames unit, whether or not it has been painted isa nother story...

1) It has the "telegames bezel"
2) It has the swirly brown trim as opposed to the woodgrain
3) The bottom says "For sale to Sears Roebuck" (none of the Tele-games units say "Tele-games" on the bottom)

It looks like the unit is authentic to me. Like NoahsMyBro, primarily because of the bezel. Note that it is actually white, and not the traditional silver. I also don't see any bleed marks around the very fine text.

I wouldn't drop $100+ on it though @_@

maxlords

08-04-2004, 10:10 AM

Pedro Lambrini

08-04-2004, 11:38 AM

Nah...I don't know very much about Atari systems but it just looks a bit too crappy to me to be genuine. I think the joystick just looks awful - it's like they've painted everything but the paint wouldn't take to the rubber so they never bothered! Also, I do think this limited ed console thang is a pretty new fad. And finally, I have no doubt that at least one person either here or at Atariage would know of it's existence if it was real.

classic gamer

08-04-2004, 11:59 AM

MarioAllStar2600

08-04-2004, 12:11 PM

Also on the controller shouldn't the ring around the joystick still be colored. You can see the decorative markings are still there but they are white, the same as the rest of the controller. I remember mine having red or yellow dashes and arrows or something like that.

Can anyone verify that?

Also should the seller be notified (in case they are unaware) that the system might be a fake, before the bidding gets out fo control?

Yes there are orange dashes around the ring. But what does that say? Maybe the system was suppose to have an all white base. Saying it was real. I don'y buy it of course. That orange paint could be painted right over.

norkusa

08-04-2004, 12:18 PM

I'm almost 100% positive that the joystick is an Atari XE joystick. If that is the case, there is no way the seller could have found an XE joystick together with a painted white Telegames system by accident. It's a blatant fake.

EDIT: Never mind. The cord on the controller in the auction is black. XE is white. Still looks fake to me though.

vintagegamecrazy

08-04-2004, 01:03 PM

Pardon me, but what is the "John Deere 2600" might I ask?

sniperCCJVQ

08-04-2004, 03:27 PM

Pardon me, but what is the "John Deere 2600" might I ask?

A "green grass" 2600.

jdl

08-04-2004, 03:42 PM

google says : http://hawanja.com/john_deere_2600.htm

tholly

08-04-2004, 04:36 PM

Pardon me, but what is the "John Deere 2600" might I ask?

somebody went a little overboard with a can of spraypaint and a perfectly good atari 2600 system

vintagegamecrazy

08-04-2004, 07:51 PM

I gotta admit it looks cool for a hoax.

Ed Oscuro

08-04-2004, 10:10 PM

Heh...where are the two screws on the bottom of the unit? What's going on in the bit of empty space around the rubber feet (that some paint built up, or is it normal to have those bumps/holes in there)? Looks to me like the sticker might be peeling a bit on the bottom left, as well.

Hmm...fun times.

evg2000

08-04-2004, 11:07 PM

I don't know if it's fake or not but here are my observations:
1. The picture seems to have a lot of noise in critical areas, around the words on the front panel, the line on the front panel below the cart slot.
2. The rca video plug looks like it't from a different system.
3. What kind of sweepstake would Sears be having? And I think it would have to be Sears, as I wouldn't think some other company would have a special sears Atari 2600 as a prize.
4. Would be nice to see a model number, I would think it might be different. Odd how some words are blurred on the label, and others aren't.
5. Wouldn't you think his Uncle might have kept it in the box it he never used it, and maybe even have some docs with it.
6. Back then I believe all systems came with a game, so how come his uncle never had a game for it?
7. If you were a collector, some one gave you a prestine white A2600, I'm guessing you wouldn't play it, and his uncle didn't either, wouldn't the cords still be tied the orignal way.
8. Where is the white power cord?
9. didn't systems come with two joysticks and a set of paddles, where are they?
10. If you where a collector, and you had this cool find, wouldn't you let people know about it?
just my $.02, could be real who knows, but I came up with these concerns with out much thought, could problem list a few more if I felt like taking the time.

Later,
Charles

Ed Oscuro

08-04-2004, 11:10 PM

Gotta be an Uncle...they'd have said it was their Auntie except everybody knows Aunts don't go for video game things.

You have to wonder why somebody would just decide to enter a sweeps and not do a damned thing with the prize - maybe he was hoping for the Evinrude outboard motor :P

Push Upstairs

08-04-2004, 11:50 PM

somebody went a little overboard with a can of spraypaint and a perfectly good atari 2600 system

I know, but what about that John Deere 2600?

:P

tholly

08-04-2004, 11:55 PM

somebody went a little overboard with a can of spraypaint and a perfectly good atari 2600 system

I know, but what about that John Deere 2600?

:P

although we all know that it is fake, i would have to say that the john deere 2600 looks pretty friggin cool...i wouldnt ruin a system to do that though...

JB Lars

08-05-2004, 12:01 AM

I dunno, gang, methinks it might be real. I used to help my uncle install carpet, and a good number of the clients were affluent. One house in particular had kids my age (this was 1984 or so, I was 11), and instead of laying rug, I effed off and played Atari with the kids. I have a dim recollection of this system from that day. What I VIVIDLY remember was the white joysticks, so that doesn't prove a whole bunch. Come to think of it, in my minds eye the whole joystick was white. At any rate, though substance abuse may have destroyed some of my memory, this brings a dim spark of recollection.

Videogamerdaryll

08-05-2004, 03:59 AM

I'll paint one up white if you like...Damned if I don't have enough of them around..

What ever color wanted...even Hot Pink.. LOL

It's not hard to do that...

Ever see the Gold top covered Atari 2600 that sold on Ebay..For a good amount of money.?

(I have pics saved somewhere)

That may have been painted..Shoot this may even be the same seller.. :eek 2:

anagrama

08-05-2004, 05:43 AM

What ever color wanted...even Hot Pink.. LOL

You mean like this one?

http://atariage.com/forums/download.php?id=27921

ROFL

Ever see the Gold top covered Atari 2600 that sold on Ebay..For a good amount of money.?

(I have pics saved somewhere)

That may have been painted..Shoot this may even be the same seller.. :eek 2:

Do you mean the gold grille that Buyatari has? If so, I'm pretty sure that ones genuine.

AB Positive

08-05-2004, 09:36 AM

I'm no expert on ataris but I am pretty knowledgeable about the use of spray/acryllic paints. This isn't an amateur paint job and most likely isn't paint at all. No way that even the decending line-arrows next to all the switches, and all the other labeling at the top of the system would be perfect with no paint on them if those weren't added after the fact, meaning during the manufacturing process.

sure, a white atari looks like junk, but this looks like junk Atari made.

-AG

Cauterize

08-05-2004, 09:42 AM

John Deere 2600 - http://hawanja.com/john_deere_2600.htm

So you can mow your lawn and then go inside and play Pac-Man and not have to worry about your game console color clashing with your farmer outfit.

that is a classic line! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

ianoid

08-05-2004, 11:36 AM

Actually, I hesitate to suggest that it's real.

The serial number sticker on the bottom is intact- was it cleanly removed and reapplied?

The control panel lettering is also curious- did he repaint each word in black? Isn't it normally white on black, not white on black?

And then the green telegames lettering is preserved?

I'm certain that the folks that thing that this is real aren't saying a word. They don't want to encourage any bids.

What I consider suspicious is that the RF cable looks to have been reveresed- doesn't the internal jack have that stunted look, whereas the external jack look more beefy and black for folks hands?

Pedro Lambrini

08-05-2004, 11:43 AM

A lot of people keep mentioning the lettering on the console. Can't letters like these just be bought as stickers/transfers from any decent stationary shop? I know a story about this guy who used to rip off giro cheques from the dole by scraping off the figures on the giro with a razor blade and then putting on new figures by transfer! It was quite a success for him - until he got caught!!

Push Upstairs

08-05-2004, 01:11 PM

RARE HTF LIMITED EDITION SNOW WHITE GENESIS!

http://members.aol.com/piku94/RareGenesis.jpg

fargus

08-05-2004, 01:28 PM

I have painted a 2600 before with dark red metallic car paint, and I did the same thing that I think happened here. It looks to me like someone popped out the switch cover, masked off the woodgrain and feet, removed the labels, then painted the black areas with white spray paint. My Telegames 6-switch console has a light silver panel around the swtiches which looks white when photographed with the flash on. That would explain why the outer edge of the switch panel is still black. There's also white paint on the top left foot that looks like spray paint got behind masking tape. The controller also looks painted to me.

It also seems that if the plastic were white all the way through you'd be able to see some white through the top vents, but maybe that's just me.

dsullo

08-05-2004, 02:04 PM

how much for the snow white genesis? That is pretty cool

Arcade Antics

08-05-2004, 02:08 PM

It's a simple spray paint hoax by a rank amateur, nothing more.

The photos tell the whole story. If it was legit, more than just the easily removable and easily painted outer casing would be white. Period. :P

@dsullo: Oscar rules. :)

djbeatmongrel

08-05-2004, 02:44 PM

i'm definitiely not an expect on Atari's models by any means but heres what i think when i see the pictures and after i've read all the inforemation given.

- If this is a paint job it is probably one of the best paint jobs out due to the attention to detail and how every visible crevice is white.
- All labels are well intact and seemed to be placed with the utmost precision, if its forged, this guys a master at it.
- All though key elements are blurry to an extent, so is the rest of the picture. He probably used a lower quality version of the image to save space. lowering the quality usualy tend to blur finer details in a picture since the colors that are closer in hue blend more when the quality is lowered.
- about most of the elements not being change in color, just the controller and the casing. it was probably more cost affective to only make just the controller casing and the VCS casing white because it'd be costly to poor white plastic into all the molds and to make white rubber for the joystick for only a couple of special edition systems.
- i do find it fishy that the uncle didn't get any games or keep any of the boxing or paper work. then again, some people do weird crap with stuff they win.

I'm on the fence about this but i think there are some major things to sway this both ways.

dsullo

08-05-2004, 02:51 PM

I wish I was that handy with a spray can. I would pant some of my systems just for the heck of it.

dreams

08-05-2004, 03:15 PM

I'm going to say fake.

The biggest issue people are having with this is the area around the switches and the lettering. As someone showed on AA, that area on the model in question is identical to a regular version. The reflection of the white system may make it appear white, particularly with the dark contrast of the cloth underneath the system, but it is actually still silver.

http://atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=671529&highlight=#671529

Besides, if Sears would have done that, they would have made the whole controller white, not just the box.

Also, in the joke pink version, look at the splotchy-ness at the front of the console around the woodgrain. Since that joke image was doctored from the original, I would say there's a good chance that the splotchy-ness of the paint is there currently as well - you just can't tell because it's all white.

Videogamerdaryll

08-05-2004, 03:41 PM

[quote=Videogamerdaryll]
What ever color wanted...even Hot Pink.. LOL

You mean like this one?

http://atariage.com/forums/download.php?id=27921

ROFL

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Yeaaaaa....

Ever see the Gold top covered Atari 2600 that sold on Ebay..For a good amount of money.?

(I have pics saved somewhere)

That may have been painted..Shoot this may even be the same seller.. :eek 2:

[Do you mean the gold grille that Buyatari has? If so, I'm pretty sure that ones genuine.

Hmmm. :? ..I never saw that one..I'm not sure who bought the one on Ebay..I did see another one like it listed later on Ebay too..

But I could also get something painted Gold and re-create it to look just like the gold 2600 grilles I saw on Ebay...

Not that Buyataris is fake..only that I could make one the same as the ones I saw..

I'd love to see Buyataris.
Link/pic to Buyataris please... :)

anagrama

08-05-2004, 05:45 PM

RARE HTF LIMITED EDITION SNOW WHITE GENESIS!

http://members.aol.com/piku94/RareGenesis.jpg

There actually is a silver Brazilian Megadrive released by TecToy that looks very similar to that:

http://asp.tectoy.com.br/imagens/mega_foto.gif

y-bot

08-05-2004, 06:19 PM

I have an old ad for a Kellog's contest in 1978 where you could win a Tele-Games console. The pictured console in the ad is black though. I doubt the one in the auction is authentic.

y-bot

TNTPLUST

08-05-2004, 06:29 PM

Come to think of it, in my minds eye the whole joystick was white. At any rate, though substance abuse may have destroyed some of my memory, this brings a dim spark of recollection.

When Commodore released the newer style C64 and C128 they released white Joysticks and Paddle Controls. I have a pair of white paddle controls in my collection and have seen the white Joysticks. The Joystick in the pircture looks quite similar from what I remember.

Videogamerdaryll

08-05-2004, 09:11 PM

I have a white Atari Joystick though It's a bit darker then the one in that pic...

Not painted and I forget what system it came/comes with..

Push Upstairs

08-06-2004, 12:43 AM

http://asp.tectoy.com.br/imagens/mega_foto.gif

Thats pretty damn cool.

thegreatescape

08-06-2004, 03:02 AM

There actually is a silver Brazilian Megadrive released by TecToy that looks very similar to that:

OMG that would go perfect with my silver MD cart collection :D
is the silver MD rare/expensive?

anagrama

08-06-2004, 05:31 AM

There actually is a silver Brazilian Megadrive released by TecToy that looks very similar to that:

OMG that would go perfect with my silver MD cart collection :D
is the silver MD rare/expensive?

It was only released about 3 or 4 years ago, so it's probably possible to find new stock still. I'd guess that they would run around $40-$50, although shipping from Brazil may add a bit onto that. There's a bunch of built-in games in it aswell.
It's probably worth having a look at TecToys website (www.tectoy.com.br).

thegreatescape

08-07-2004, 03:13 AM

vintagegamecrazy

08-08-2004, 06:15 PM

Holy Crap!!!

This ended at $495.00!!!! For a Fake that's pretty fierce, I don't know whether or not to call the buyer stupid or feel sorry for him/her!

@_@ :eek 2:

O_O :roll:

SoulBlazer

08-08-2004, 07:28 PM

Like everyone has been debating, we're not SURE that it's a fake.

Maybe the best thing to do at this point would be to e-mail the buyer, say you were interested in the system, and please contact you when he gets it in the mail (does it work, does it seem fake, etc.)

Backgammon

08-08-2004, 08:30 PM

After some googling and guessing translations i found a couple of places (one through msn.br) that had them new, but after currency conversion it came to about $150 AU (excluding postage). I cant seem to find the brazilian ebay either (does it exist?) so ill have to put it on the wishlist of cool stuff i cant afford :o

www.mercadolivre.com.br it's a partnership with ebay. It's in portuguese though :eek 2: but some sellers are able to sell to foreign customers there.

Buyatari

08-09-2004, 09:47 AM

Ever see the Gold top covered Atari 2600 that sold on Ebay..For a good amount of money.?

(I have pics saved somewhere)

That may have been painted..Shoot this may even be the same seller.. :eek 2:

That one came from Dan Kramer. Former Atari employee and designer of the 5200 trackball. I'm pretty sure its the real deal or I wouldn't have bid.

Adam

slip81

08-09-2004, 10:29 AM

that's a cool find if it is indeed authentic, but I have the feeling that someone just paid $500.00 for a modded heavy sixer. Although I could be wrong and someone just could have gotten a super rare 2600

ApolloBoy

08-09-2004, 02:12 PM

I have a white Atari Joystick though It's a bit darker then the one in that pic...

Not painted and I forget what system it came/comes with..

It came with the XEGS.

Videogamerdaryll

08-09-2004, 02:26 PM

Videogamerdaryll

08-09-2004, 02:27 PM

I have a white Atari Joystick though It's a bit darker then the one in that pic...

Not painted and I forget what system it came/comes with..

It came with the XEGS.

Yes... ;)

Videogamerdaryll

08-09-2004, 02:28 PM

I WAS IN SHOCK.....I sure hope it's Real...

RARE SOLID SNOW WHITE ATARI 2600 TELE SYSTEM MINT Item number: 8121770968

Bidding has ended for this item. (svhcox is the winner)

Go to larger picture Winning bid: US $495.00
Ended: Aug-06-04 01:05:54 PDT
Start time: Jul-30-04 01:05:54 PDT
History: 33 bids (US $9.99 starting bid)
Winning bidder: svhcox( 56)

Item location: Grants Pass, Oregon
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