Price of CastleVania Chronicles as of now, Insane or Ok?

[MegaDrive20XX]

I knew Chronicles was limited during it's release so Konami claims...but $50? Is this going to be another "Dracula X" scenario again?


I sure love Konami...but I always described their best work like a ghost at such times like these, "When the moon is full, a game will descend, and only after the horde is released unto the people...they vanish"

Same probably with CastleVania: Harmony of Dissonance for GBA...why? We can find COTM and AOS easily...but HOD? good grief...

Note: On second thought, it could be Ebay's prices that most people are using to judge on.

[SoulBlazer]

From what I heard only 30,000 copies of Castlevania Chronicles were printed for the States.

I got the game from Amazon used last year for $30, which I considered a fair price.

GREAT game, BTW. I loved the music so much I bought the soundtrack. And some nice hard gameplay.

Now, the Castlevania GBA games? Some of those are rare? I bought them all full price when they first came out and still have them. :hmm:

[MegaDrive20XX]

From what I heard only 30,000 copies of Castlevania Chronicles were printed for the States.

I got the game from Amazon used last year for $30, which I considered a fair price.

GREAT game, BTW. I loved the music so much I bought the soundtrack. And some nice hard gameplay.

Now, the Castlevania GBA games? Some of those are rare? I bought them all full price when they first came out and still have them. :hmm:

oh yeah I love Chronicles, here's a nice trick I learned...before you start the game (Arranged or Original) Hold down L1 and R1..press start....and you can change the sound syth easily with a hidden menu before the game begins...giving you three choices of soundtrack remixes.

but the only GBA CastleVania that seems to be worth alot is Harmony..no clue why...I bought them for the same price as you..but the price is insane now

[Kim Possible]

oh yeah I love Chronicles, here's a nice trick I learned...before you start the game (Arranged or Original) Hold down L1 and R1..press start....and you can change the sound syth easily with a hidden menu before the game begins...giving you three choices of soundtrack remixes.



Cool tip, I did not know that. I love Chronicles as well, and got it as a gift when it came out. I had no idea it was so hard to find! (I'll have to put mine in the safe! ;) )

[Azazel]

I bought it for $20.00 when it was first released. I figured with the cheap price tag and the fact that it might be hard to get later I might as well get it now.

[Aussie2B]

I got mine a few months ago for $20 + $4 for shipping. I'm aware of how it's been going up and up on eBay, so I snatched it up for that price. I wish I had been smart enough to just buy it brand new when it came out, but I'm glad I don't have to worry about it now. The copy I got was perfect, so it's in no worse condition than had I bought it new.

HoD is going up, eh? I don't like the game much, but since I love the Castlevania series, I should get it just for completion. I probably should have got it from the same guy who sold me Chronicles. He was selling a bunch of CV games, and he only wanted $15 for each GBA game complete and perfect. :/

[o2william]

I didn't realize HoD was becoming more expensive.... thanks for the warning. Guess I'd better hurry up and buy it.

I didn't buy HoD new because I thought, since it was a Castlevania game, it would be pretty easy to find later on at a good price. Luckily I knew about Chronicles' low print run so I picked it up for $20 new.

[calthaer]

Maybe they didn't put HoD through a second print run or anything because it got mediocre reviews? It seems like they sacrificed some aural quality for a few visual perks (i.e. - the blue trailing silhouettes and stuff). The melody is good but the music quality sounded like something from some old 8-bit Sound Blaster.

It was a decent game and I like it...the battle mode where you can play as the Belmont from CV3 (Richter?) for the NES was cool. Not sure it's worth the $45 I've seen it go for though.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Maybe they didn't put HoD through a second print run or anything because it got mediocre reviews? It seems like they sacrificed some aural quality for a few visual perks (i.e. - the blue trailing silhouettes and stuff). The melody is good but the music quality sounded like something from some old 8-bit Sound Blaster.

It was a decent game and I like it...the battle mode where you can play as the Belmont from CV3 (Richter?) for the NES was cool. Not sure it's worth the $45 I've seen it go for though.

Actually that was Simon Belmont from CV1 who was in the HOD via the boss battle mode code...which we all know as "The Konami Code" to access him.

CV3 was Trevor Belmont.


Update: If you notice on Ebay alot of Hong Kong boots of HOD that are really cheap...stay away from them, the fact is the save battery on each of those games are defective

[rbudrick]

I bought it for $20.00 when it was first released. I figured with the cheap price tag and the fact that it might be hard to get later I might as well get it now.


Same here...I think I payed 15 or 20 bucks for it. I knew there was a low production run, so I made sure to snatch that up.

-Rob

[Ed Oscuro]

If you're finding a sealed Chronicles @ $50, it's a great deal. The game wasn't published in great quanity and has a lot of appeal, especially if you suck and don't own an x68000 LOL

Really though - I've read somewhere in the neighborhood of 20K copies were made, and CV is a much more popular franchise than that. It won't be another Rondo, but maybe 3/5 of an SotN.

[Ed Oscuro]

Jesus, that can't be real: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8124827261&rd=1

Anyhow, HoD was...well, the beginning of the game looks spectacular with the detailed rooms, but after that it quickly goes to hell in a handbasket. Lots of awful tile placement (cemetery) and color schemes that are just bad (Luminous Caverns, which also have the worst Castlevania song ever, approximately). It has a lot of stuff that kicks ass, too, but it would've been nice if it had been consistent. Probably this all has something to do with the fact it was originally planned (and possibly being developed for?) the PS2. Who says Igarashi is a sellout to 3D? :D (Still hate the man though ;)

[bluberry]

Both Aria and Harmony are getting expensive, although Harmony much more so. I also agree that Harmony sucked, and I am also glad that I got my copy of Chronicles for $20. The game rocks.

[Aussie2B]

Update: If you notice on Ebay alot of Hong Kong boots of HOD that are really cheap...stay away from them, the fact is the save battery on each of those games are defective

I got a HoD pirate with a perfectly fine working battery. Although, mine was made back when HoD was brand new, so perhaps they're made differently now.

[-hellvin-]

that's crazy...I picked up mine at a nearby shitty little game store for 15 bucks. Glad I did that.

[Trellisaze]

For all you EB shoppers out there, keep an eye out for used copies there, which seem to be priced pretty low (found a copy there a few months ago for $15 CAD).

[kainemaxwell]

Good thing I got Chronicles for Christmas then. But anyhow, Chronicles is pretty fun. At time sI'll try to get through an area in the normal mode, then got through it in Arranged once I have an idea how to get through. I think in both I'm up to Stage 4.

[bluberry]

Arranged is the easier mode than the Original, wouldn't you do it the other way around? LOL

[whoisKeel]

hmmm...i'm seeing bins for $30 on chronicles...i can see the worry tho, as the game is great (i think it stomps castlevania IV personnally)

[Crush Crawfish]

I got it for $10 complete and mint. But It's a great game, so If I had to I'd pay $50 for it.

[bluberry]

(i think it stomps castlevania IV personnally)

Agreed. Although I think we're alone in the world.

[EnemyZero]

Glad I read this post, I picked up a sealed chronicles for $10 at my local flea on sunday. They apperantly don't know what they have, but not that I'm complaining LOL



(i think it stomps castlevania IV personnally)



Couldn't agree more

[kainemaxwell]

Arranged is the easier mode than the Original, wouldn't you do it the other way around? LOL
I thought it was the other way around? my bad!

[Azazel]

No original mode is supposed to be kind of like the orignal X68000 version which was much harder.

[Sotenga]

$50 may be a bit too much... I remember paying only $30 for my copy. But hey, for Castlevania, the price matters not. I paid $100 for Akumajo Dracula X: Rondo of Blood, and I think the price was right. That's besides the point. If you think it's too much, then look around and see if you can find one that doesn't cost as much. I'm not sure of the rarity on it, but I imagine that it's not as gratuitious in stock as Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. See if you can try to find one that's only $30 or less, and if not, then goferit anyway, because there isn't a bad Castlevania title. Even the worst game in an excellent series is still a good game on its own, i.e. The Castlevania Adventure. Trust me, this is better than The Castlevania Adventure. :)

BTW, the Original mode is damned hard to beat. I should know. ^_^

[rbudrick]

BTW, the Original mode is damned hard to beat. I should know. ^_^

I've heard a lot of people say that, but I really don't remember this game being that hard....I think I beat in a few hours without a sweat. Is there something I missed, like extra modes or something?

-Rob

[Ed Oscuro]

(i think it stomps castlevania IV personnally)
Agreed. Although I think we're alone in the world.
Much of SCV4's music is better composed, and some of the levels are better. Aside from that, x68K's graphics stomp SCV4 into the ground.

Now here's a question that I'm still not sure about (as I only have the Japanese version of Chronicles, sealed too): What's the gore like in the Original mode's Dungeon level? Also, are the sprites fat looking?

[kai123]

If you look at the disc in the right light you can see that it is died red instead of black. Very cool little extra.

[Azazel]

hmmm...i'm seeing bins for $30 on chronicles...i can see the worry tho, as the game is great (i think it stomps castlevania IV personnally)

Almost all games in the series can stomp Castlevania 4.

[bluberry]

I liked CV4's music, but it had some stinkers. I actually like most of the Arranged tracks in Chronicles. And I only thought CV4 had a couple of fun levels, one, nine, and eleven. The rest were carp, IMO.

[Kim Possible]

Bah! C4 is GREAT! Its fun, not too hard, and features some of the SNES best graphics and music.

Now Bloodlines, there is a crapper! :)

[kainemaxwell]

CV4 is probably the best CV4 with the PS2 one a close 2nd. The music, the graphics are top-notch and the play control is great!

[Richter]

no love for CV4 ;_;

[MegaDrive20XX]

Bah! C4 is GREAT! Its fun, not too hard, and features some of the SNES best graphics and music.

Now Bloodlines, there is a crapper! :)


You're crazy..Vampire Killer (Aka CV Bloodlines in the USA) is one of a kind...don't knock it until you find out how to unlock the three remixed soundtracks on there (Bloody Tears, Vampire Killer, and The Beginning)

I enjoyed this game alot...it was the one game that made me go back to Genesis. For being a Genesis title, it still made me go "THIS IS GENESIS?! @_@ "

Yet, Bloodlines is worth it..it was enjoyable...and to me it's an esstential for any Genesis/MegaDrive owner

[Azazel]

CV4 is probably the best CV4 with the PS2 one a close 2nd. The music, the graphics are top-notch and the play control is great!

You obviously haven't played very many Castlevania games if you think those 2 are the best in the series.

[Nuadha]

(i think it stomps castlevania IV personnally)

Agreed. Although I think we're alone in the world.

You're not alone. I've always thought that CIV was over-rated in the series. Whipping in every direction made the game far too easy.

[Aussie2B]

CV4 is probably the best CV4 with the PS2 one a close 2nd. The music, the graphics are top-notch and the play control is great!

You obviously haven't played very many Castlevania games if you think those 2 are the best in the series.

I've played practically every single CV game, and I still think CV4 is one of the best. I'll take the NES trilogy over it, but that's about it.

The Igarashi games, though... ick. They may not have as tight control, but I'd take the N64 games over the PS2 game because they actually have LEVEL DESIGN. I'd take SotN and CotM over HoD and AoS anyday too.

[Azazel]

I've played through all of them numerous times with the exceptions of the N64 and PS2 ones. I only played part of the first N64 one and haven't touched the other ones as I don't have the systems.

Castlevania 4 has absoutely no challenger other than maybe the last level. It's controls weren't as responsive as the other games. It's only claim to fame is you could whip in 8 direction which just made the game even easier than it always is. I'm sure if I played it again and I could a lot more things wrong with it. Other than maybe the Gamboy ones it by far one of the worst games in the series. Why people rave and love that game I'll never understand.

[Aussie2B]

CV4 doesn't have any less challenge than any of the modern CV games, so eh, if people can rave about those... Rondo is a pretty dang easy game too, in my opinion.

The lack of significant challenge would probably be my only complaint about the game. The graphics, music, and gameplay are all top-notch, in my opinion. I personally had no problem with the controls, but I didn't have a problem with the one directional whipping and no mid-jump direction changes of the earlier games either. Really, I think all the CV games have decent controls for the most part, even the often-hated CV Adventure. I'll never understand the whining about many of the games that appears to be so widespread. I think it's another case of people jumping on the bandwagon when they see one person hating on a game (just look at all the people who talk about how horrible CV Adventure is when they've never even played it).

[Ed Oscuro]

Adventure has good controls...it's just that you have to be within three pixels of a block for a series of about TWENTY jumps in a row in one area. You can always go back if you miss, but...damn, that's just rude.

[bluberry]

I like SotN as a game, but I'm kind of pissed at it for reinventing the series in that way. Although Lament was a pretty good dungeon crawler type game.

[kainemaxwell]

Chronicles progress:
Orginial- Stage 10
Arranged- Stage 13

[bluberry]

Chronicles Progress:

Original - Stage 10 on the fourth loop. Cleared loops 1-3, obviously.
Arrange - Cleared Hard. Beat Easy with only the basic whip and no subweapons.

I dunno why, but I never found the game that hard. :D

You stuck anywhere, or just played the levels a couple times each?

[kainemaxwell]

I'm doing Arrange on Normal diff.

[bluberry]

I think I did Easy my first time through. How many lives? 5?

[Kim Possible]

C IV is very fun to play. No its not terribly hard, but it looks good and sounds good, and I can sit down and play it without beating my head into a wall over a mis-timed jump or impossible boss fight. Its a stress free, fun game. Games don't need to be impossible for me to enjoy them.

Bloodlines on the other hand is a stinker. Great graphics for the Genny, but drab compared to C IV. The level design was a snoozer. A German Munitions Factory? What the.... What happened to old crumbling castles and subterreanean caves? What next, Belmonts in space? I'll pass. Plus, the lack of any ACTUAL Belmont in the game is a bad bad idea. Sorry, but finding a few extra music features is not going to make this game any better for me. There were a few good things about Bloodlines, but overall it was a disappointment for me

[MegaDrive20XX]

C IV is very fun to play. No its not terribly hard, but it looks good and sounds good, and I can sit down and play it without beating my head into a wall over a mis-timed jump or impossible boss fight. Its a stress free, fun game. Games don't need to be impossible for me to enjoy them.

Bloodlines on the other hand is a stinker. Great graphics for the Genny, but drab compared to C IV. The level design was a snoozer. A German Munitions Factory? What the.... What happened to old crumbling castles and subterreanean caves? What next, Belmonts in space? I'll pass. Plus, the lack of any ACTUAL Belmont in the game is a bad bad idea. Sorry, but finding a few extra music features is not going to make this game any better for me. There were a few good things about Bloodlines, but overall it was a disappointment for me

Ok no Belmonts, yet you still would play SOTN? That's kinda hypocritical don't you think?

Graphics don't mean a thing to me, it's the gameplay that matters. Only Konami could make a CastleVania with a great soundtrack, and in my honest opinion, every single CastleVania is a worthy treasure regardless of which platform it was on (YES that does include CV64)

CV4 is just a remake of part 1, it was beautiful, it was amazing, but I enjoyed Bloodlines over the fact it tries to take on the Bram Stoker book. Showing that regardless of the characters, it still is CASTLEVANIA. Because of the simple fact Gameplay > Graphics and Characters

Just like the Final Fantasy series that is so sucessful, CastleVania can pull off the same thing even if it's not a Belmont decendant.

As for Germany Factories...it's 1917 man! WW1! Konami tries it's best to make each CastleVania's time period accurate.

[Ed Oscuro]

Ok no Belmonts, yet you still would play SOTN? That's kinda hypocritical don't you think?
No, it's called he read the name "Richter Belmont" and thought that Richter was a Belmont. Even if you spell is name "Rihiter," he's still a Belmont.


Graphics don't mean a thing to me, it's the gameplay that matters. Only Konami could make a CastleVania with a great soundtrack, and in my honest opinion, every single CastleVania is a worthy treasure regardless of which platform it was on (YES that does include CV64)
Hmm...Only Konami knows how to compose great music? Play Demon's Crest and report back to the Forums, post haste. Graphics mean everything - but that doesn't mean what's good today is going to be better than the graphics used in the classics. Everything uses appropriate graphics, that's what! If it doesn't (I'd really like to say Bloodlines graphics look silly, and I think I will) then it's not as good, simply put.


CV4 is just a remake of part 1, it was beautiful, it was amazing, but I enjoyed Bloodlines over the fact it tries to take on the Bram Stoker book. Showing that regardless of the characters, it still is CASTLEVANIA. Because of the simple fact Gameplay > Graphics and Characters
If graphics get in the way of gameplay, that's one thing. Outside of that, what's to say a game can't have good graphics AND gameplay? Hmm, well, Bloodlines is better than Splatterhouse 2's graphics, I'll say that.


As for Germany Factories...it's 1917 man! WW1! Konami tries it's best to make each CastleVania's time period accurate.
Such as walking around on diridgibles? They took that one out, but it was on the beta...no, Konami just does things when it's convenient. Castlevania 64 has things in it that shouldn't have existed in the form they're seen in the game for possibly another twenty years, especially the infrared/motion sensing gun turrets and "bacta tank" style demon gro-vats in the Tower of Science. It's all up to the designer(s). I liked the N64 games' style more, as there wasn't any lone individual keeping the game back for a "grander vision." No one person invented Castlevania 64's level design, and like a deathmatch shooter (Unreal Tournament 2K4, perhaps) it's filled with many moments. Various designers over the years have taken different approaches to the level design, but Igarashi's map based approach holds the game back and takes the mystery out of it. You realize that a game like Castlevania 64 really would require that two rooms be able to coexist in the same place at the same time, right?

[MegaDrive20XX]

No, it's called he read the name "Richter Belmont" and thought that Richter was a Belmont. Even if you spell is name "Rihiter," he's still a Belmont.


First off, he's only in the game for one scene, then it's all Alucard. Then acts as a bonus feature. Not really a Belmont through the entire game, now is it?


2nd, it's DEMON'S BLAZON for Euro and JPN...Capcom always does wonders..and the soundtrack is astounding...but I'm talking about KONAMI. since the NES beginning, so post haste good sir! or should I say "Gargoyle's Quest 3" released back in 1994? or how about the real hero Gargoyle's Quest on GameBoy 1991 that deserves a remake for godsakes. Not my fault, but I feel Firebrand needs some respect, the Red Blaze hasn't fought since SNES. (Or Red Arrmer for SVC Chaos fans)

If graphics get in the way of gameplay, that's one thing. Outside of that, what's to say a game can't have good graphics AND gameplay? Hmm, well, Bloodlines is better than Splatterhouse 2's graphics, I'll say that.

Now as for SplatterHouse, we all know that's the bomb, but I like all three of Namco's game. Graphics are just there to ad to the picture of the visuals...but can it still maintain GAMEPLAY? you can have your cake and eat it too...but does that mean this cake has the right stuff to enjoy it?


Such as walking around on diridgibles? They took that one out, but it was on the beta...no, Konami just does things when it's convenient. Castlevania 64 has things in it that shouldn't have existed in the form they're seen in the game for possibly another twenty years, especially the infrared/motion sensing gun turrets and "bacta tank" style demon gro-vats in the Tower of Science. It's all up to the designer(s). I liked the N64 games' style more, as there wasn't any lone individual keeping the game back for a "grander vision." No one person invented Castlevania 64's level design, and like a deathmatch shooter (Unreal Tournament 2K4, perhaps) it's filled with many moments. Various designers over the years have taken different approaches to the level design, but Igarashi's map based approach holds the game back and takes the mystery out of it. You realize that a game like Castlevania 64 really would require that two rooms be able to coexist in the same place at the same time, right?[/quote]


Then explain why Konami's CastleVania series has a time line?

I won't even compare CV64 to a FPS, totally irrelevant

[Lemmy Kilmister]

no love for CV4 ;_;

Yeah why all the hate? :hmm: It's no SOTN or rondo but i thought it was alright.

[MegaDrive20XX]

But to show no hard feelings over Bloodlines, here's my respect for Super CV4.

Stage 4-2, who has NOT been amazed by the spinning room with catacombs built into the walls?

9-1 The treasure room with the flying ghost and the Golden Bat was impressive

6-1 Recreating the first stage of CastleVania, then treating you to the chandeliers

Stage A- Sloga and The Gargoyle, followed by DEATH himself...greatest trio battle since CastleVania 3's Battle with The Cyclop, the Mummies, and the Tengu Demon.

Greatest usage of the SNES's Mode 7 graphics to zoom in and out during the Golem battle was impressive.

[kainemaxwell]

Here's a question on the N64 CV games: which of the 2 is the better to get?

[MegaDrive20XX]

Here's a question on the N64 CV games: which of the 2 is the better to get?

CastleVania Legacy of Darkness, why? because it's a 2 in 1 deal

Once you finish the game with Cornell and Henry, you can unlock Reinhardt and Carrie includes their original game too

[bluberry]

I hated the spinning room. It was boring, and nothing happened. I also disliked the chandelier segment... maybe if it was actually challenging. I only die because I try to get through it as fast as I can.

Level nine was good, though, as were a couple others.

Would anyone mind if I were to pimp out my review of the game for a more detailed opinion?

If not, http://defectivestudios.com/~bluberry/revs/snes/scfour.html

[AFGiant]

I'm just getting into the castlevania series (don't kill me!) because of my friend andy's urging (richterbelmont at digitpress). Somehow, I missed out on the NES one as a youngin. I got SotN, and I really enjoy it. I saw chronicles, new, at an EB for $40. Should I go for it? Also, I saw the original NES cart (I think) at EBGames for $15...I don't know :o

[MegaDrive20XX]

wow I was just re-reading the post...man...I'm sorry if I came off sounding bad about Bloodlines Vs. Super CV4..I just love them all...I can't debate worth a crap... Yet I like to say, what wonderful thread. :)

As for AFGiant, for $40, that's pretty solid from what I have learned this past week about the price wise. Try some NES ones for kicks as well.

[AFGiant]

All right. I have to buy a game tomorrow for my brother's birthday anyway. I'll swing by EB and EBGames and try to pick them both up.

[Ed Oscuro]

Stage 4-2, who has NOT been amazed by the spinning room with catacombs built into the walls?
It's been a while since I was amazed by Super CV IV; I must be getting jaded. What really got me (even in 2001, when I first played it via emulation) was playing on either side of the fence in the first area to Theme of Simon's accompaniment...oh yeah!

The rotating rooms, though...blah, slowdown city more like it. Pretty, though, and good music.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Stage 4-2, who has NOT been amazed by the spinning room with catacombs built into the walls?
It's been a while since I was amazed by Super CV IV; I must be getting jaded. What really got me (even in 2001, when I first played it via emulation) was playing on either side of the fence in the first area to Theme of Simon's accompaniment...oh yeah!

The rotating rooms, though...blah, slowdown city more like it. Pretty, though, and good music.

yeah the framerate went down the tubes...on Stage 4-2

but the first stage when the draw bridge lifts up and the iron gate shoots up from the ground is the bomb....Simon's Theme in this game has never been topped...except in Chronicles, the final stage..it's a pretty good remix..yet compared to Super CV4...ironically this soundtrack can be compared to many modern titles of next-gen and still can compete.

[Ed Oscuro]

Here's a question on the N64 CV games: which of the 2 is the better to get?
The first one really feels a bit smoother IMO. Supposedly the second includes "all" of the first game, but parts are cut out of the quests for the original game's characters, Reinhardt and Carrie. The second game's camera is even more dodgy than the original's, tending to stick to things even at range. The second one does have some good, even great, new maps, as well as the awesomest remix ever of The Old Sinking Sanctuary. Aside from that and the jumping, shooting quasi-knight Henry Oldrey, I feel that what's cut out of the original is shameful.

The "revamped" (OH MY A PUN CREPT UP ON ME LIKE A GARDEN SNAKE IN THE VILLA) villa's garden task of "saving Henry" is among the worst executed things I've seen in the series, ever. A text box actually pops up to tell you what to do...awful, and you can switch viewpoints to see what Henry would see as he crawls along staring petrified at the gardener and the two dogs...er

Next, the second game (might as well tell you what it's called - Legacy of Darkness) is missing the original game's great intro, with scary child Malus playing his violin, and the screen where you choose which data file to load (it's written in the pages of the Necronomicon) is missing. Basically, all the shortcuts taken in LoI to get it down to size (to where it can encompass BOTH storylines) detract heavily from the game's front end.

Third, LoD's new "SOOPER HIGH RESOLUTION, IT'S SUPER HIGH BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE SMOKING POT TO THINK IT'S REALLY A GOOD THING" makes the game crawl, somewhere around 15 FPS in my estimation. The game already will give me a headache if I play for more than a few hours...this...noooo...At least you have to turn it on every time, right? It also makes the expansion pack very, very warm.

Third, both games have THE VILLA! **LIGHTNING STRIKES!!!** (little Castlevania Dungeon Forums running in-joke there).

There's still a lot that should've been done with the game. It's got an amazing amount of detail, especially compared to a game like Zelda: The Ocarina of Time, yet I feel that they could've and should've taken some steps (such as making the garden maze smaller - already you're usually confined to seeing your character, enemies, and at most three walls which have a little unnoticable ledge at the bottom) to reign in pop-up and allow for better vistas. Hmm.

[Azazel]

CV4 doesn't have any less challenge than any of the modern CV games, so eh, if people can rave about those... Rondo is a pretty dang easy game too, in my opinion.

The lack of significant challenge would probably be my only complaint about the game. The graphics, music, and gameplay are all top-notch, in my opinion. I personally had no problem with the controls, but I didn't have a problem with the one directional whipping and no mid-jump direction changes of the earlier games either. Really, I think all the CV games have decent controls for the most part, even the often-hated CV Adventure. I'll never understand the whining about many of the games that appears to be so widespread. I think it's another case of people jumping on the bandwagon when they see one person hating on a game (just look at all the people who talk about how horrible CV Adventure is when they've never even played it).

I couldn't say it much better than that about the difficulty. Up until Castlevania 4 all Castlevania games had a pretty good challenge. Since that game all of them have been really easy, except for maybe one of the GBAs. I forgot which one it was. If it wasn't for C4 the series might still have some kind of challenge to it.

The music was definity not as good as the other games in the series. I'm mainly comparing it to the 8 and 16 bit ones. I'd easily take Bloodlines over it anyday. I really can't remember one rememorable song in the entire C4 game. Almost all of the other Castlevanias had many memorable tunes in them.

Castlevania Adventure is a fine game. Other than maybe the controls with jumping for a few spots I really didn't find many faults with the game.
Castlevania 4 is not a bad game on it own. It just now where near as good as the other games in the series, and msot people think it's one of the 3 best games in the series.

[SoulBlazer]

I agree. Super Castlevania IV and Castlevania III are my favorites of the series, with Castlevania Chronicles, Castlevania, and Aria of Sorrow coming in next.

The only game I really did'nt care for much as SOTN. I know.....I just never got into it. :roll:

[kainemaxwell]

but the first stage when the draw bridge lifts up and the iron gate shoots up from the ground is the bomb....Simon's Theme in this game has never been topped...except in Chronicles, the final stage..it's a pretty good remix..yet compared to Super CV4...ironically this soundtrack can be compared to many modern titles of next-gen and still can compete.

I'll definitly agree to that, that's my favorite theme in all of CV4!

Crap, I found Castlevania 64: Legacy on ebay for $6 with a BIN of $90?!?!

[Azazel]

I agree. Super Castlevania IV and Castlevania III are my favorites of the series, with Castlevania Chronicles, Castlevania, and Aria of Sorrow coming in next.

The only game I really did'nt care for much as SOTN. I know.....I just never got into it. :roll:

Maybe you should try SOTN again. It's pretty good. I know some people won't like it as it's so different from the original castlevania games.

[Kim Possible]

wow I was just re-reading the post...man...I'm sorry if I came off sounding bad about Bloodlines Vs. Super CV4..I just love them all...I can't debate worth a crap... Yet I like to say, what wonderful thread. :)

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Yeah, I love them all too, so its tough for me to trash any of them, but I just wasn't impressed with Bloodlines.

In defense of SOTN, the story is still ABOUT the Belmonts and it does features ALUCARD who appeard in Dracula's Curse, so at least he is related to the series already. And it takes place in/around the Castle. These two losers in Bloodlines come from nowhere I can tell and unless you TOLD me Bloodlines was a Castlevania game, I probably would have never known.

But I am extremely partial to SOTN, because its my fav.

Let's not argue, let's just say some people like IV better and some like Bloodlines better, but they are both pretty darn good Castlevania games!

Its all about the love. :)

[MegaDrive20XX]

wow I was just re-reading the post...man...I'm sorry if I came off sounding bad about Bloodlines Vs. Super CV4..I just love them all...I can't debate worth a crap... Yet I like to say, what wonderful thread. :)

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Yeah, I love them all too, so its tough for me to trash any of them, but I just wasn't impressed with Bloodlines.

In defense of SOTN, the story is still ABOUT the Belmonts and it does features ALUCARD who appeard in Dracula's Curse, so at least he is related to the series already. And it takes place in/around the Castle. These two losers in Bloodlines come from nowhere I can tell and unless you TOLD me Bloodlines was a Castlevania game, I probably would have never known.

But I am extremely partial to SOTN, because its my fav.

Let's not argue, let's just say some people like IV better and some like Bloodlines better, but they are both pretty darn good Castlevania games!

Its all about the love. :)

I agree, the one thing that made SOTN wonderful...was to finally combine all the series and make sense of the story lines. (Super CV4 (bosses cameos), CastleVania 3, Dracula X and SOTN)

[Kim Possible]

Exactly.

Quick question, since we are talking Castlevania and SOTN. Why is it that sometimes in the clock tower, when the Medusa's turn you to stone you look, not like Alucard but, like a Gargoyle or something. It only happens every now and then, but its really weird and cool looking. I cannot trigger it on purpose. have you ever seen this or know what I am talking about?

Oh, and back to Chronicles, I'm currently stuck in Arrange mode Stage 13 (clock tower) and Original Mode Stage 10 (Medusa Cathedral). Those are two tough levels, I can do the Medusa one, but I never get to her with enough life, that stupid Stain Glass Monster rips me to shreds. Not even the Pot Roast can give me enough health to kill her (I got her down to 1 pt! and then died!.

Man I love these games. :)

[MegaDrive20XX]

Exactly.

Quick question, since we are talking Castlevania and SOTN. Why is it that sometimes in the clock tower, when the Medusa's turn you to stone you look, not like Alucard but, like a Gargoyle or something. It only happens every now and then, but its really weird and cool looking. I cannot trigger it on purpose. have you ever seen this or know what I am talking about?

Oh, and back to Chronicles, I'm currently stuck in Arrange mode Stage 13 (clock tower) and Original Mode Stage 10 (Medusa Cathedral). Those are two tough levels, I can do the Medusa one, but I never get to her with enough life, that stupid Stain Glass Monster rips me to shreds. Not even the Pot Roast can give me enough health to kill her (I got her down to 1 pt! and then died!.


That Gargoyle feature happens when your luck is good, it's a random effect.


ok the Stain glass monster is easy for me...get the holy water ready...walk with him a few steps till he falls back...now you walk back down the stairs..and notice the monster is stuck? Use the Holy Water to fry him.from a distance (it'll usually land on the edge of the platform he fell off of and his head will touch it and he falls for it EVERY time!)...if he hurls glass at you...just walk down a few steps down the stairs (or jump down about a block that is beneath you..just make sure not to loose him out of your sight or you'll have to do this over again! (This glitch makes the glass vanish into thin air)

Then after he's dead...before you reach Medusa (The last stone contains a piece of meat!)

The Key is to medusa...stick and move....if she jumps at you...get the hell out of the way...I work it like this...throw Holy Water on the spot she is on...then three hits...and she jumps...start timing when she hurls three-four snakes at you to strike them at the right time...if you have the "II" for the Holy Water...just start planting them every where she lands

[Kim Possible]

Awesome, thanks! I did not know about that little "glitch." Stain Glass Monster, you are MINE! :evil:

So is there any purpose to the Gargoyle thing, or is it there just because its cool?

[MegaDrive20XX]

Awesome, thanks! I did not know about that little "glitch." Stain Glass Monster, you are MINE! :evil:

So is there any purpose to the Gargoyle thing, or is it there just because its cool?

Just a cool Easter egg pretty much

[bluberry]

I hate the Werewolf and Death in Chronicles so much. :angry: LOL

[SoulBlazer]

Chronicles defentily has some hard bosses. So did Castlevania III and Lament of Innocence. Bloodlines, too, although I have'nt played that one in a while.

[Kim Possible]

sometimes its not so much the boss as it is the trial of getting TO the boss and THEN beating it. I find the bosses alone can be pretty simple and fun, but if you only get there with a wee bit of life, you are going to be dead in seconds.

I really liked that boss that was made of rock and was REALLY big, but as you hit him he got smaller and smaller. But I don't recall which game he was in....either SNES or Genny. I first played those two so close together the bosses sometimes blurrrrrrrrrrr........ O_O

[Ed Oscuro]

I really liked that boss that was made of rock and was REALLY big, but as you hit him he got smaller and smaller.
Koranot from Super Castlevania IV...I always crack up when he dies; funny animation/sound for that one LOL

[MegaDrive20XX]

I hate the Werewolf and Death in Chronicles so much. :angry: LOL


Aka "THE WOLF BITCH" She's funny...here's the key to defeat her...


PLEASE let her throw her fit! She'll throw everything at you...

when she grabs the clock's minute hand...then strike...she'lll slow down


Death...this is a classic remake of CastleVania 1's death...the key is...Crossbow and "II"..."III" if you're lucky...The Cross bows do most of the work for you