View Full Version : Mother gets POP ad removed..scared kids
Gamereviewgod
08-19-2004, 10:06 AM
http://www.canada.com/windsor/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=fdacc340-0395-4c0c-a15b-8ab1d7efcd5c
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What ad has him holding a gun?????
Cmosfm
08-19-2004, 10:51 AM
oh GAWDAMMIT!
Seriously, I don't even know what to say about this! This is just so damn ignorant, it's beyond the reach of even my sarcastic ass.
:angry:
kainemaxwell
08-19-2004, 10:55 AM
WTF, this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard! :angry:
jgenotte
08-19-2004, 10:55 AM
[Retracted!]
-james
Yeah real fucking scary. If hes frightend by that kid need to stay in his house and never look out side or at the T.V.
Mr. Smashy
08-19-2004, 11:08 AM
LOL
My God...that's pretty hilarious.
SegaTecToy
08-19-2004, 11:18 AM
Pathetic. To become scared with that ad this kid should have serious problems. That woman is turning her kids into a couple of sissies. THAT's damaging! :roll:
esquire
08-19-2004, 11:19 AM
I live in the Metropolitan Detroit Area, which is right across the Detroit River from Windsor, Ontario. The funny thing about the whole thing is that in Windsor it is legal for women to be topless in public, yet a cartoon ad of a fictional character holding a sword is deemed offensive and improper for display on public transportation..... x_x
omnedon
08-19-2004, 11:21 AM
Fukcing liberals/canadians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with the first part of this quote, and strongly disagree with the second. :angry: :angry: :angry:
There are Canadian conservatives. Stating otherwise is pure ignorance.
This lady is a busy body. Let her sanitize her house, and hide from the outside world if she doesn't like it.
Jasoco
08-19-2004, 11:23 AM
Mental Note: Move to Windsor..
I mean.. damn, what a dumbass kid. And the mother. These people piss me off. Gun?? GUN?? I'll show you a GUN, LADY!
Pantechnicon
08-19-2004, 11:31 AM
IMHO, that ad on the side of the bus looked no worse than some of those old Frazetta-style murals people used to paint on the sides of their vans (oddly, I couldn't find any examples of this using GIS). That was obviously before these kids' time...their mother too, I guess.
For that matter, I'll bet they've never been to the drive-in either.
/end nostalgia
tynstar
08-19-2004, 11:40 AM
Make the little shit ride the bus anyways. Dumb ass!
lendelin
08-19-2004, 11:40 AM
Nonsense and dumbness never dies.
I can't stand this hysterical scream "Does nobody think about our children?" The world does not consist of 4 year olds alone and shouldn't revolve around 4year olds. Policies became intolerant becasue of exaggerated, hysterical concerns of every minority possible. (age groups, gender, ethnicities, political preferences, environmental concerns) You can't make fun of anything or anyone anymore - - except for catholics and hillbillies. Intolerant educational dicatators took over in the name of tolerance and understanding.
Children can have nightmares about evrything - from Wizrad of Oz, a black or Asian guy they see, or a Disney cartoon. Thunderstorms should be prohibited also, nature just doesn't think about our children.
It's not a coincidence that the journalist put this dumb quote at the end of the article:
"And they wonder why our jails are full and where these kids get these ideas from."
Yep, our children become criminals becasue of an ad like this. Jails are full becasue of pirate movies in the 30s, westerns, Jules Verne, Sherlock holmes novels, and Grimms fairy tales; and girls become pregnant today because of Elvis Presley.
Intolerant hyper-sensitivity is not about children at all. It's about adults with a political agenda who misuse their children to achieve political goals.
Lady Jaye
08-19-2004, 11:48 AM
I don't recall seeing any version of the ad with a gun... And PoP was heavily advertised here in the Montreal subway system (the game was made by Ubi Soft Montreal); I don't remember there being any controversy over the ad here! And yet, there have been countless women with their little kids at McGill station (the busiest station of the Montreal subway system), one of the places where I've seen that ad for weeks, and no one has made a big deal out of it.
Jasoco
08-19-2004, 11:50 AM
Just because one mother has pussy-ass kids, we have to suffer.
PUSSY KIDS! I hope their school-mates kick their asses. Of course, then it'll get blamed on a video game... and this time IT'LL BE TRUE!
fahrvergnugen
08-19-2004, 11:59 AM
Fukcing liberals/canadians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since when is censorship a strictly liberal trait? Colin Powell's conservative kid is censoring Howard Stern, and a conservative attorney general in Kansas is barring the distribution of free CDs to libraries based on their content.
"Won't somebody please think of the children" is a phrase that knows no political ideology or geographic boundary, as much as you'd like to self-reightously think otherwise. Nice try, though.
Predatorxs
08-19-2004, 12:07 PM
That is frickin! Stupid!... that woman needs a kick in the Ass!... Not for what she said about the posters, but she has brought too little pussy bitches into the world and they'll be even worse than she is when they get older!.. :roll:
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh :angry:
:vamp:..XS
tholly
08-19-2004, 12:10 PM
http://www.canada.com/windsor/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=fdacc340-0395-4c0c-a15b-8ab1d7efcd5c
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What ad has him holding a gun?????
prolly an ad for a different video game had a gun in it and she is just to ignorant to realize that they are 2 different games.....but, shes just crazy...its hard to believe that that is the scariest thing she sees in the public with her children.....if they are that easily frightened then leave them at home and never go out
Blendo75
08-19-2004, 12:11 PM
Look at the mother clinging to those kids in the picture. "DONT WORRY MY BABIES, MOTHER WONT LET YOU EVER SEE ANYTHING SCARY!" Way to raise some wussies there, mom. Oh and "I dont even let them handle a butterknife". Wtf? Duh, they're 4 and 2, probably not ready for a scimitar just yet. "It's sending kids the wrong message" - and the message is what, exactly? This lady probably wont even let those poor boys play with GI Joes. Someone start up a collection to buy those kids a BB gun, this is an emergency.
Mamas who act like this come off to me as being much too conservative, not too liberal.. unless it's differently defined in canada. I've got a family like this on my father's side and they wont let their son play with transformers because they're "evil". Why are they evil? Because some of them are shaped like bugs and dinosaurs and they think they look like demons and are "too scary". They're republicans btw. Ah I guess it's beyond conservative or liberal.
mizarkgram
08-19-2004, 12:13 PM
in Windsor it is legal for women to be topless in public,
If I am not mistaken, I do believe this is all-Ontario wide..... cuz I know I have seen some ladies walking around topless up in my neck of the woods. Now, the only disturbing part is that it was a few old grannies out for a stroll with their men on a hot August day..... O_O :help:
MarioAllStar2600
08-19-2004, 12:14 PM
On september 9th 2001 I went to my eye doctor to get a new pair of glasses. There was a a big ad of a plane flying into a building and the building bending backwards. It said " Dont you wish all metal was Flexon metal?". I got hit by a car september 13th and went to get a new pair of glasses a few days later.... the ad was gone. :o
Now that ad shouldve been gone but this.... x_x
rbudrick
08-19-2004, 12:17 PM
Argh!!! That woman should be shot (see how violent videogames made me?). A buddy of mine read this article and said "She shoulda took it in the butt instead and had no kids."
Hmmm, well, umm, ok. Offensive as hell, but funny. LOL
-Rob
TheRedEye
08-19-2004, 12:17 PM
Clairmont v. State of New York
(Supreme Court of New York, Appellate Division, 2000)
Collette Clairmont was a student at State University of New York at Albany (SUNYA). The campus has a tunnel system (presumptively to permit staff and students to traverse the campus during the winter months without going outside). Where one of the tunnels entered an acdemic building, there is a set of fire doors. As the student approached the door preparing to pull it open, it flew open, striking her in the face, causing injuries. The door, which had no view glass, had been pushed open by a SUNYA employee. The student argued in court that the door was improperly designed, and its design flaw led directly to her injury.
The court ruled that notwithstanding an architect's opinion that safer fire door designs were available than the type employed by the university, the door did not constitute an inherently "dangerous condition," such as would give rise to a valid claim of negligence by the public university. There was no state law which required a wire glass viewing panel in fire doors. In fact, in every specification the door met state law requirements. Therefore, the state was not negligent in using a non-windowed fire door, even when it was employed in a location where it would naturally be used by many people each day.
So after failing to sue New York for having doors that open outwardly, she moved on to Windsor?
EDIT: (source (http://www.murraystate.edu/qacd/cbpa/polcrjlst/quarterly/Winter2000-2001.htm))
Cmosfm
08-19-2004, 12:34 PM
Nonsense and dumbness never dies.
I can't stand this hysterical scream "Does nobody think about our children?" The world does not consist of 4 year olds alone and shouldn't revolve around 4year olds. Policies became intolerant becasue of exaggerated, hysterical concerns of every minority possible. (age groups, gender, ethnicities, political preferences, environmental concerns) You can't make fun of anything or anyone anymore - - except for catholics and hillbillies. Intolerant educational dicatators took over in the name of tolerance and understanding.
Children can have nightmares about evrything - from Wizrad of Oz, a black or Asian guy they see, or a Disney cartoon. Thunderstorms should be prohibited also, nature just doesn't think about our children.
It's not a coincidence that the journalist put this dumb quote at the end of the article:
"And they wonder why our jails are full and where these kids get these ideas from."
Yep, our children become criminals becasue of an ad like this. Jails are full becasue of pirate movies in the 30s, westerns, Jules Verne, Sherlock holmes novels, and Grimms fairy tales; and girls become pregnant today because of Elvis Presley.
Intolerant hyper-sensitivity is not about children at all. It's about adults with a political agenda who misuse their children to achieve political goals.
I agree, I whole heartedly agree. This is what I wanted to say but was too pissed to do so.
Just because one mother has pussy-ass kids, we have to suffer.
PUSSY KIDS! I hope their school-mates kick their asses. Of course, then it'll get blamed on a video game... and this time IT'LL BE TRUE!
Wrong there Jasoco, kids like this don't go to public school...there usually home schooled. Parent's are too busy trying to protect there "babies" that they will protect them until there 35 years old with no social skills.
Gotta love the digging you did on that chick TheRedEye, amazing stuff, Dammit I'm still pretty speechless at the stupidity of this person. Betting she's a single mom, cause I don't know a man alive that could stand this person.
thegreatescape
08-19-2004, 12:36 PM
It's not a coincidence that the journalist put this dumb quote at the end of the article:
"And they wonder why our jails are full and where these kids get these ideas from."
I thought the same thing when i read it. With that single comment she manages to blame every one of societies ills on video games. Someone give that woman the nobel prize x_x
Those kids should be having normal nightmares about the queen of england eating planets, and sharks in swimming pools, and walking the plank. Talk about yer sissified tweety bird kids..
GrayFox
08-19-2004, 12:46 PM
Children becoming scared of ads now? What the hell. That ad had actual purpose, it was making money for multiple parties in some way, and in that way, it was a good thing. That woman, taking it down did more worse than good. Atleast the ad was doing something useful, but now, there isn't an ad, but hey, we've got a little pansy-ass kid that can go on the bus now. Our lives are saved, woo-hoo.
I can't stand children now. My little nephew is afraid to go into Chuck-E-Cheeses. We tried for hours to get this kid in there, and we failed. I mean, what kind of kid doesn't want to go to Chuck-E-Cheeses? When I was young, we'd friggen beg for hours just to go there. Children these days are being raised in such a protective manner it's absolutely disgusting. The future doesn't look bright in regards to children.
tholly
08-19-2004, 12:49 PM
the one time at a flea market, there was a poor old man playing a flute with a collection bucket trying to make some spare change....
....and right in front of me there was a kid, prolly around 6, with his fingers in his ears because, i am assuming, the music was too loud for him......
...honestly...wtf...who raises a kid to think that flute music is too loud and damaging.....honestly....parents are crazy these days...and, its not like the guy was even playing it loud....it was soft and gentle music.....and there wasnt anything else noisy....so i dunno
davidleeroth
08-19-2004, 12:50 PM
"I don't even let my kids have a butter knife."
Yeah, after the kids have seen that swo.. I mean gun, they'd prolly slit their own wrists and stab her in the back with it. What a sweet mama. x_x
kai123
08-19-2004, 12:59 PM
What are these kids going to do when they get to a history class? The pictures will make them crap themselves. She is just a stupid person who for whatever reason has been given priority over the rights of everyone else. :roll:
BTW afraid of going to Chuck-E-Cheese? Wow when I was a kid you couldn't keep me out of there, even if you used a sword. :)
kainemaxwell
08-19-2004, 01:03 PM
BTW afraid of going to Chuck-E-Cheese? Wow when I was a kid you couldn't keep me out of there, even if you used a sword. :)
Yeah, same here. Kid's probably scared of Chuck E.
Kid reminds me of the Flanders.
Crush Crawfish
08-19-2004, 01:12 PM
This is hilarious! It's also Ironic, because I was just playing PoP last night. I kept getting mauled by the enemies, screamin' about how the prince needs a gun.....now how do I unlock said gun? LOL
Anyways, I can understand the mother wanting to protect her kids, but this is going overboard. Anyway, she doesn't even know what she's talking about. There isn't a single gun in that game. I hate how video games are always blamed for society's problems. When are they gonna get the respect they deserve as an art form?
punkoffgirl
08-19-2004, 01:17 PM
I think many of you haven't had much experience with kids when you belittle the fact that images such as those in the ads on the buses can be fearful to them. I used to be afraid of the dark and clowns, but that doesn't mean my parents were too easy on me, raising me to be a wimp, being overprotective, or any of the other insulting comments about how the woman is raising her children.
Kepone
08-19-2004, 01:55 PM
This is just plain sad.
It's a stupid ad for chrissakes.
I think that woman needs a reality check.
allsport11
08-19-2004, 02:06 PM
Instead of parenting her kids by explaining to them that there is or isn't anything to be afraid of she is just using it as an excuse to make other people miserable. It really has nothing to do with her kids, just the fact that she has nothing better to do.
Blendo75
08-19-2004, 02:16 PM
I think many of you haven't had much experience with kids when you belittle the fact that images such as those in the ads on the buses can be fearful to them. I used to be afraid of the dark and clowns, but that doesn't mean my parents were too easy on me, raising me to be a wimp, being overprotective, or any of the other insulting comments about how the woman is raising her children.
I think what folks on here are mad about is that the lady is trying to change the world to suit what her children are afraid of. That's what's going to turn the kids into wimps. If you make a big deal out of something like that (or in this case a HUGE deal) then you teach the kid that not only is he justified in being scared of a picture but that mommy will fix everything so he doesnt have to look at it anymore. What kind of lesson is that? Kids are going to be afraid of goofy things. I was terrified of freakin Punch Out and Dragon's Lair the first time I saw them in an arcade. My mother never tried to get those games removed to make me feel better. I remember my dad had a poster he got out of some computer magazine for a printer that gave me nightmares, yeah dad knew I was scared of it but he also knew I would get over it and I did. He told me there was nothing to be afraid of and he was right. I dont even remember what was so scary about it now. You wont get over childish fears by being removed from everything that scares you. There was no need, no need at all to go this apeshit about a poster on a bus. I really feel bad for the kids, they've got some life ahead of them...
Atarileaf
08-19-2004, 02:17 PM
Well as someone from Windsor Ontario, let me assure you that we're not all this stupid! :duh:
Flack
08-19-2004, 02:30 PM
When exactly did society change?
When I was a kid, if you didn't like a game, you didn't play it. If you thought something was scary, you didn't look at it. If you didn't like a movie, you didn't go to it. Things were simpler back then.
Now, because some 4 year old kid thinks Prince of Persia is scary, they're going to scrap a multi-million dollar advertising campaign? I wish companies would stand up to some of these people. Personally I'd rather have the millions from advertising than some whiny bitch's $2 bus fare.
TheSmirk
08-19-2004, 02:33 PM
*sigh*
That is all...
Avenger
08-19-2004, 02:35 PM
i hate stupid ppl like this....chances are the mom is the one blowing this up herself, and shes just tried to use it as a way to sue sumone and make sum quick cash (i thought of this after readin the New York situation aswell)...
and in reply to this quote
"And they wonder why our jails are full and where these kids get these ideas from."
....fuck off.....
:P
and now we know why PoP didnt sell all too well...those stupid fukers made them take down all the posters! haha
oh yea and also....how come when somethin bad happens they only refer to it was the "NINTENDO GAMECUBE" version...but in all other situations they say "PS2, Xbox, GBA, Gamecube"...in pretty much that order?
sisko
08-19-2004, 02:45 PM
not about children at all. It's about adults with a political agenda who misuse their children to achieve political goals.
Very eloquently stated, and I agree 100%
I bet the kid is terrified of Charmin toilet paper because of the animated bears in their commercials.
NO! NO! NOT 2-PLY!!!!
evildead2099
08-19-2004, 02:50 PM
That story almost makes me ashamed to live in Canada.
Quotes Esquire: "I live in the Metropolitan Detroit Area, which is right across the Detroit River from Windsor, Ontario. The funny thing about the whole thing is that in Windsor it is legal for women to be topless in public, yet a cartoon ad of a fictional character holding a sword is deemed offensive and improper for display on public transportation"
I don't think there's anything funny about giving women the same right that men have enjoyed for decades. How can you compare a part of the human anatomy (something that is natural and wholesome) to an object that is implicit of violence (which is illegal)?
evildead2099
08-19-2004, 02:57 PM
Quotes Kai123: "What are these kids going to do when they get to a history class? The pictures will make them crap themselves."
No kidding. Maybe we should get the media to stop covering the casualties of war in case that brat learns that this world isn't quite as peachy as his mother would lead him to believe. Let's totally censor the news so that no can possibly be offended by anything in print.
TheRedEye
08-19-2004, 03:03 PM
Gotta love the digging you did on that chick TheRedEye, amazing stuff
Actually, all I did was plug her name into Google. It's very possible that there are two retards named Collette Clairmont, that might not be her at all.
Ed Oscuro
08-19-2004, 03:09 PM
Well, it IS their bus service, their tax money that's going towards it (that or just fares).
Frankly I think ads that cover windows on buses are the worst.
This all really doesn't surprise me - the other day I had some people return some Pokemon stuff "The other stuff was fine, but we don't let our kids play with Pokemon." Everybody's got a right to educate their kids as they see fit (within pretty large bounds), apparently, if you look at home schooled kids.
C'est la vie... @_@
Cmosfm
08-19-2004, 03:15 PM
Now, because some 4 year old kid thinks Prince of Persia is scary, they're going to scrap a multi-million dollar advertising campaign? I wish companies would stand up to some of these people. Personally I'd rather have the millions from advertising than some whiny bitch's $2 bus fare.
AMEN!
She's going to ride the bus anyways, why succumb to her ignorance. I wish I ran some of these companies. People come into the office with some shit like this...
*whips out dildo*
me - "want to borrow this?"
bitch - "why?"
me - "so you can go fuck yourself"
kainemaxwell
08-19-2004, 03:18 PM
This is just stupid. We should be educating and protecting our kids yes, but not stupidifying everything and screwing others over because of little things like this.
The_EniGma
08-19-2004, 03:30 PM
i used to play MK2 on pc when i was 5 goddamit and i thought it was FUNNY
rbudrick
08-19-2004, 03:31 PM
I think many of you haven't had much experience with kids when you belittle the fact that images such as those in the ads on the buses can be fearful to them. I used to be afraid of the dark and clowns, but that doesn't mean my parents were too easy on me, raising me to be a wimp, being overprotective, or any of the other insulting comments about how the woman is raising her children.
Oh, Puuhhhlease, PoG. That's is truly insulting to all those here who have kids. I too used to be afraid of the dark, but my parents sure as shit didn't leave the lights on when I slept to make the problem go away. They gave me something to fight my fear and boost my confidence: a magical gun to blast the boogeymen and monsters away. It was actually a plastic clothes hanger. I saw that my sister got one of these magical weapons and I wanted one too. Problem was solved. They did, of course tell me that the monsters didn't exist, but I, of course, didn't believe them.
And that woman IS, no matter what you say, raising her kids to be wimps, and she IS being overprotective. Shit, she'd probably have an aneurism if her kids just turned on the fucking NEWS. What the fuck are the kids going to do when they find out about war and all the injustices in society? They will be shocked and ill-prepared for it, likely hating their mother for sheltering them from the real world.
Bah, screw this woman to hell.
-Rob
The_EniGma
08-19-2004, 03:34 PM
I think many of you haven't had much experience with kids when you belittle the fact that images such as those in the ads on the buses can be fearful to them. I used to be afraid of the dark and clowns, but that doesn't mean my parents were too easy on me, raising me to be a wimp, being overprotective, or any of the other insulting comments about how the woman is raising her children.
Oh, Puuhhhlease, PoG. That's is truly insulting to all those here who have kids. I too used to be afraid of the dark, but my parents sure as shit didn't leave the lights on when I slept to make the problem go away. They gave me something to fight my fear and boost my confidence: a magical gun to blast the boogeymen and monsters away. It was actually a plastic clothes hanger. I saw that my sister got one of these magical weapons and I wanted one too. Problem was solved. They did, of course tell me that the monsters didn't exist, but I, of course, didn't believe them.
And that woman IS, no matter what you say, raising her kids to be wimps, and she IS being overprotective. Shit, she'd probably have an aneurism if her kids just turned on the fucking NEWS. What the fuck are the kids going to do when they find out about war and all the injustices in society? They will be shocked and ill-prepared for it, likely hating their mother for sheltering them from the real world.
Bah, screw this woman to hell.
-Rob
what he said :D
Daria
08-19-2004, 03:39 PM
"I mean.. damn, what a dumbass kid."
"Make the little shit ride the bus anyways. Dumb ass!"
"Just because one mother has pussy-ass kids, we have to suffer. "
"but she has brought too little pussy bitches into the world and they'll be even worse than she is when they get older!.."
Jesus Christ, the kids are only 4 and 2 years old. O_O
Edit: And before someone takes this the wrong way what I'm amazed by is that you people would actually call a toddler a "pussy bitch", Not the fact that they're scared of posters. I agree the mother is taking the wrong approach to the situation, she should be soothing her children and explaining to them that posters and scary images are harmless not sheltering them from billboards.
But you know what, it's just a stupid video game ad. It's not really that big of a deal. And it certainly doesn't warrant verbal assualt of a couple of babies.
captain nintendo
08-19-2004, 03:47 PM
I think many of you haven't had much experience with kids when you belittle the fact that images such as those in the ads on the buses can be fearful to them. I used to be afraid of the dark and clowns, but that doesn't mean my parents were too easy on me, raising me to be a wimp, being overprotective, or any of the other insulting comments about how the woman is raising her children.
Being a father of a 3 year old I think I can safely say that I will not raise my child this way. If my son comes home crying because of an ad like that I wont stand for it. I wont let my son grow up to be a cry baby. Society is filled with a bunch of crying babies and asses who need to take a chill pill.
Not directed at you POG. I was just stating this towards parents and a general rant. ;)
Phosphor Dot Fossils
08-19-2004, 03:48 PM
If I had kids...I wouldn't let them read this thread. Just a thought. :)
Raedon
08-19-2004, 04:00 PM
She shouldn't be mad at the Ad because her son is a whimp..
Raedon
08-19-2004, 04:01 PM
..and for the record I've seen at leastfive 2-4 year olds cry and try to squerm away when face to face with George W. Bush.. :)
Mr. Smashy
08-19-2004, 04:14 PM
Just wait until they're six and buying the newest Grand Theft Auto.
Nuadha
08-19-2004, 04:17 PM
Fukcing liberals/canadians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry:
That kind of thing angers me. [/rant]
There's no need to blame that on liberals. This is not a liberal/conservative issue, so lets not try turning this into one. This is one of the most annoying tactics currently being used by conservatives in the US: making it sound like being a liberal (or having any different view than them) is a bad thing. We liberals can and will see this for the stupidity it is. He's carrying a sword. It's not a scene of bloody mutilation. It's like any fantasy or fairy-tale character who uses a sword. Don't forget, it is usually liberals that are defending art and freedom of speech from attacks by conservative groups.
Of course if this woman is running around trying to protect her kids from the violence of butter knives, she has already probably made them so neurotic that would be scared of anything that remotely looks like a weapon, because their mother is. They see mom scared and sense it is a scary thing.
kainemaxwell
08-19-2004, 04:18 PM
..and for the record I've seen at least five 2-4 year olds cry and try to squerm away when face to face with George W. Bush.. :)
I would to. LOL
Pantechnicon
08-19-2004, 04:19 PM
Fukcing liberals/canadians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since when is censorship a strictly liberal trait?
In America, since 1963 at least (Murray vs. Curlett). And in predominantly liberal "enlightened" European nations like Germany and Sweden certain forms of censorship are actual government policy. But even I wouldn't go so far say to say it's strictly a liberal thing. Censorship does, however, seem to be a prevalent characteristic of modern liberalism. But to say more would be to threadjack.
This situation reminds of a few weeks ago when I had taken my three-year-old daughter to a local comic shop. She saw one of those vinyl statues of the Joker from Batman and it spooked her somewhat. Rather than piss all over myself and demand that the owner remove this thing from my child's sight, I talked with her about it, encouraged her to look at it again, agreed it was scary, then brought her home and we read some Batman stories with the Joker in them. Once she saw that the evil clown was not so tough in contrast to the Dark Knight, she stopped fearing him altogether.
My point being: children need to learn that fear is not something to give into, but to be dealt with in as rational a manner as possible. This mother in Canada, however well-intentioned she may be, failed to do her job in that sense.
Hush, my baby. baby, don’t you cry.
Momma’s gonna make all of your nightmares come true.
Momma’s gonna put all of her fears into you.
Momma’s gonna keep you right here under her wing.
She won’t let you fly, but she might let you sing.
Momma’s gonna keep baby cozy and warm.
Oooo babe.
Oooo babe.
Ooo babe, of course momma’s gonna help build a wall.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn my inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Phosphor Dot Fossils
08-19-2004, 04:22 PM
Just popping me head into this thread again to thank Pantechnicon for writing what is hands-down the most intelligent reply in this whole thread.
That is all. ;)
Aussie2B
08-19-2004, 04:48 PM
Looks like some motherly instincts are kicking in around here. o_O Good thing I don't have any. :P
I bet the kid is terrified of Charmin toilet paper because of the animated bears in their commercials.
NO! NO! NOT 2-PLY!!!!
My boyfriend is scared of those bears, and he's 23, haha. :P
ANYWAY...
To me, that ad looks no different than a scruffy version of a character in Disney's Aladdin.
Those kids are pussies, period. I don't care if I'm insulting little kids. The truth hurts. It's not their fault that they are, but the fact of the matter is that they have become pussies, even by toddler standards. At that age I was stronger and more brave than that kid AND I WAS A LITTLE GIRL. My dad would PURPOSELY scare me with his beat up, ratty teddy bear (missing an eye and goodness knows what else). He'd move it back and forth like it was walking towards me, and my dad would go "dun DUN dun DUN dun DUN" and chuckle as I got scared. It didn't do me any harm. o_O I was scared about a million different things (the dark, monsters in my closet, the Chuck E. Cheese animatrons, you name it), but I dealt with it.
Neil Koch
08-19-2004, 04:58 PM
"It is sending the wrong message to kids," said Clairmont. "I don't even let my kids have a butter knife."
I thought Canadian kids were supposed to be killing grizzly bears and swilling Molson with their bare hands by the time they were 4. I guess it's good to see that the US doesn't have a monopoly on idiots -- though there were some at the Vikings game I went to that were complaining that me and my buddies were too loud? WTF? The Metrodome is known as one of the loudest stadiums and were weren't swearing or anything, just normal boisterous cheering. A nice old lady next to us offered their kids earplugs (which are given out free) but the asshats wouldn't take them.
TheRedEye
08-19-2004, 05:07 PM
And before someone takes this the wrong way what I'm amazed by is that you people would actually call a toddler a "pussy bitch", Not the fact that they're scared of posters.
I bet I could kick their asses.
OldSchoolGamer
08-19-2004, 05:11 PM
Uh, somehow I don't see THE PRINCE of PERSIA holding a gun........
And yeah, there is a big difference between protecting your children and over-protecting them, of course kids should be guarded against certain shocking images (porn/snuff films/etc) but come on, sooner or later they will see something more "vulgar" then that ad in a movie or even the news on TV, unless they live in a fucking bubble. I agree kids should be informed and have things explained to them. I'd be like, "Son, your getting on the bus, that is just a picture someone made to sell a game, it is not real, stop crying son and deal with it".
Kroogah
08-19-2004, 05:12 PM
I was scared about a million different things (the dark, monsters in my closet, the Chuck E. Cheese animatrons, you name it), but I dealt with it.
Pussy.
fahrvergnugen
08-19-2004, 05:34 PM
In America, since 1963 at least (Murray vs. Curlett). And in predominantly liberal "enlightened" European nations like Germany and Sweden certain forms of censorship are actual government policy. But even I wouldn't go so far say to say it's strictly a liberal thing. Censorship does, however, seem to be a prevalent characteristic of modern liberalism. But to say more would be to threadjack.
O_O Right. So, we should just ignore Ashcroft v. ACLU, Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, Ashcroft v. Statue Boobies, the prosecution of Dmitry Sklyarov, the rise in the last four years in the practice of "Free speech zones," the FCC's backlash against broadcasters after the Janet Jackson nipple slip, etc. etc. etc.
Censorship prevails when ideologues are in positions of power, regardless of which values their particular ideology espouses. People who are unwilling to question their own beliefs, unwavering in their certainty of the reightousness of their tribes, are the ones who are most likely to attempt to deny others their rights even as they scream that their own are being violated. That goes for everyone, from religious ideologues like the current presidential administration, to political ideologues in the right/left-wing press, to economic ideologues like Grover Norquist & his Ayn Rand Cheerleader Band, to social ideologues like this woman. They're all the same in that they want to force their personal morality down the throats of the majority, whether they like it or not, and would stifle those who would speak otherwise in their presence.
Not that all ideologies are bad things, necessarily. There's one in particular I'm rather fond of, it has 27 amendments and a short preamble.
Back o/t: Kid is scared by the bus ad? Then she picks that kid up, gets on the bus with him anyway, and finds a seat. Teach him that courage isn't when a person does something they're not afraid of, but rather when a person is terrified, and acts anyway.
rbudrick
08-19-2004, 06:25 PM
Well as long as we are quoting Pink Floyd Lyrics, here's some Metallica:
Dear mother
Dear father
What is this hell you have put me through
Believer
Deceiver
Day in day out live my life through you
Pushed onto me what’s wrong or right
Hidden from this thing that they call life
Dear mother
Dear father
Every thought I’d think you’d disapprove
Curator
Dictator
Always cencoring my every move
Children are seen bur are not heard
Tear out everything inspired
Innocence
Torn from me without your shelter
Barred reality
I’m living blindly
Dear mother
Dear father
Time has frozen still what’s left to be
Hear nothing
Say nothing
Cannot face the fact I think for me
No guarantee,it’s life as is
But damn you for not giving me my chance
Dear mother
Dear father
You’ve clipped my wings before I learnt to fly
Unspoiled
Unspoken
I’ve outgrown that fucking lullaby
Same thing I’ve always heard from you
Do as I say not as I do
Innocence
Torn from me without your shelter
Barred reality
I’m living blindly
I’m in hell without you
Cannot cope without you two
Shocked at the world that I see
Innocent victim please rescue me
Dear mother
Dear father
Hidden in your world you’ve made for me
I’m seething
I’m bleeding
Ripping wounds in me that never heal
Undying spite I feel for you
Living out this hell you always knew
Basically says what I think that mother is doing, and what the kids will probably feel when they get older.
-Rob
GameBoy
08-19-2004, 06:49 PM
OMG what a lil pussy. When I was that age I wouldnt care!
Imagine these kids when they are teenagers.... :eek 2:
Also SINCE when does POP HAVE GUNS?! O_O
Dahne
08-19-2004, 06:54 PM
I got scared of really weird things as a little kid...That might freak me out, until I played the game and found out the Prince is really just a teenager hitting zombies with a sword and complaining about girls.
I was a weird little kid.
evildead2099
08-19-2004, 07:09 PM
I'd like to thank fahrvergnugen and Nuadha for speaking up in response to the ignorant suggestion that censorship is a characteristically liberal trait. Let's leave politics the hell out of this. It is every bit as ignorant for one to blame that idiot mother's behaviour on a political idelogy as it is for one to suggest that looking at a picture of a prince with a sword "causes" people to behave in the manner of a psychopath.
That lady should have swallowed...
DStriemer
08-19-2004, 07:12 PM
This is why supposedly "democratic" governments at all levels in North America have been getting away with whittling down our basic human rights over the last decade.
People like this are so afraid that they might be held responsible for something bad, or be able to find someone else responsible for something that happened to themselves; that they freely give away their right to make their own decisions and teach themselves so that they don't have to be the one to blame in the end if things go wrong. These kind of people are the ultimate "rubbernecker", looking over each shoulder before they do anything, say anything, or think anything. And you know they will take the first chance they get to nail someone else for even the slightest faux-pas.(or what can be construed as one no matter how far fetched.)
People like this are the ones that bitch and complain about everything wrong in their country and don't make it to a ballot box for ANY ONE level of government. You can be damn sure they will be on the PTA protecting their and your kids from everything they think is wrong in the world, which happens to be pretty much everything. Don't try to oppose these kind of people either, you'll just run yourself out of town. Everyone has hopped on the I-Don't-Want-My-Guaranteed-Human-Rights band wagon, and the minute they see someone oppose their view, they see that faint glimmer of a possibility that they JUST MIGHT BE RESPONSIBLE OR CONTRIBUTING to the mess we currently live in. They can't handle this and they won't.
So my advice is JOIN IN. None of us have to be responsible for anything anymore. Let your respective government make all of your life's decisions, teach you what THEY need you to know so you can be truly subsurvient. And by the way, before you do this, vote for me as your new world leader. LOL LOL LOL
evildead2099
08-19-2004, 07:15 PM
Sounds like a plan :roll:
Lemmy Kilmister
08-19-2004, 07:25 PM
:puppydogeyes: Hold me mommy i'm scared of the middle eastern man with the sword. I can see the outrage behind games like manhunt and primal rage but POP? Come on, what's next sonic or mario because they fell on some spikes? Sounds like a pretty wacked up family anyways. What with all the lawsuits they (she) have charge.
evildead2099
08-19-2004, 07:43 PM
"hold me mommy i'm scared of the middle eastern man with the sword"
No kidding. "Hey Mr. Politician. I'm an ethnocentric caucasian. Black people frighten me because their skin colour is different than mine. Can you please ban black people from my city to spare me from the horror of having to acknowledge that this world is shared by many people whose complexion may not conform to my my idea of what is ideal?"
(That last paragraph was loaded with sarcasm)
Pantechnicon
08-19-2004, 07:48 PM
O_O Right. So, we should just ignore Ashcroft v. ACLU, Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, Ashcroft v. Statue Boobies, the prosecution of Dmitry Sklyarov, the rise in the last four years in the practice of "Free speech zones," the FCC's backlash against broadcasters after the Janet Jackson nipple slip, etc. etc. etc.
Still hovering off-topic a bit, but there's one item in your list I feel compelled to pick apart - probably because it's the easiest one - and that's "the rise in the last four years in the practice of 'Free speech zones'".
Free Speech Zones are not the invention of the Bush Administration, despite the Left's assertion that they are. These zones are set up by the Secret Service in the interest of protecting the well-being President (that's their job, y'know), regardless of who he is. When Clinton was campaigning for re-election in 1996 he came to Albuquerque three times. I saw him speak each time and each time there was a little area around 1/4 of a mile away where all the far-right and far-left weirdos could wear their cammies (or flannel in the case of the liberals) wave their signs and beat their scrawny little chests in self-righteous indignation at Clinton's Presidency.
In other words, the policy is not new, it's just that the Left is whining louder about it than they have in years' past.
I have no idea how far back this policy goes, but when you consider how vitriolic and organized activists can be these days it makes sense. A casual glance at websites for PETA, Greenpeace, ANSWER and other "peace through superior hatred" organizations shows them proudly making photo ops of throwing fake blood on people they don't like, disrupting traffic and making a general nuisance of themselves. Common sense dictates that such people should not be allowed within a given distance of elected officials.