MK1 whats the big hoo haa

[The_EniGma]

What is the hoo haa with MK1+ they arent fucking violent at all :angry:

I was just playing it now so see the occasional splash of blood or something i mean hell doom was more violent and they pick on MK! i mean what is the problem.. PoP IS MORE FREAKING VIOLENT AND ITS A 12/13+ OMFG

ok thanks for reading

Also before u bollock me im as old as mk ie i was 1 when it came out so explaination would be nice

[anagrama]

I take it you haven't ripped the spine out of someone's body with your bare hands yet, then?

[Gamereviewgod]

Um, MKI is over, what, 15 years old? Back then it was the most violent thing ever created. Times change. The bar has been raised.

[Mr. Smashy]

Maybe you're playing the SNES version.

[Flack]

What is the hoo haa with MK1+ they arent fucking violent at all :angry:

I was just playing it now so see the occasional splash of blood or something i mean hell doom was more violent and they pick on MK! i mean what is the problem.. PoP IS MORE FREAKING VIOLENT AND ITS A 12/13+ OMFG
I HATE THESE VIDEOGAME VIOLENCE PROTESTS WHY THE FUCK CANT THEY JUST NOT LET THEIR SON/DAUGHTER PLAY THE GAME INSTEAD OF RUINING IT FOR EVERY1 ELSE

/rant

ok thanks for reading

This is ridiculous.

1, every time you punch someone, they bleed. That's hardly occasionally.

2, I don't think the classic PoP was more violent.

3, I'm sure Doom WAS protested when it came out, just like MK1.

4, when was the last MK1 protest you heard about?

[Tank]

exactly--^

[Neil Koch]

I think Enigma is a younger guy so he might have not been around when it orginally came out.

Enigma, you have to keep in mind that compared to the games of the time, MK1 _was_ violent -- people hadn't seen stuff like fatalities before. Also, the fact that it was "real" (digitized) people in it cause a lot of asshats to get their panties in a bunch. Kinda the same thing with Night Trap -- pretty tame, but since it was real people (albeit thru grainy-ass FMV) people were shocked.

[fahrvergnugen]

Welcome to 1992.

[Kroogah]

Welcome to 1992.

Shh! He wasn't born yet!

[fahrvergnugen]

That would certainly explain the punctuation.

[The_EniGma]

i was born in 92 that makse mk as old as me :)

I have played MK:DA and done subzeros skeleton rip and lots of fatalities...

My verdict

i have no idea why people went crazy at that time no biggie now


also im playing the genesis version with the blood code and its not much gory

[The_EniGma]

Um, MKI is over, what, 15 years old? Back then it was the most violent thing ever created. Times change. The bar has been raised.

LOL ^ its 12 years old like me

[VinnyT]

I now have a new nickname for EniGma:

Fetus

[The_EniGma]

wtf is ure problem O_O

why did u make a comment like that

[towerofsong]

strange strange strange....

[The_EniGma]

Also that thign above was sparked by my anger at the post of PoP being removed from a bus

goddamn soccor moms

[Mr.FoodMonster]

Wow. I hate little kids.

[The_EniGma]

lol sorry if i am being a prick at this time

1. Im cranky because ive just been 0wned silly at Science and Industry thanks to my lag connection

2. I hated VinnyT's fetus remark

[Nez]

Calm down nigma. When I viewed this game in arcade I was 8 years old and it was the Most violent thing I had ever seen. But thats what the game was there for it was maketed as a gory game, not some great fighting engin or a revolutionary game, just gore and plenty of it. But now the gore just looks bad compared to games like doom3 and Manhunt I'm shure you along with everyone else has been desenced to the weaker horrors of olde.

[The_EniGma]

ok i think thats cleared things up...

again sorry if im being a fucktard but i was 1 when it came out and i couldnt experience it too much

although mk2 looks more shocking

i remember having it on our 3.11 pc i had to play it secretly away from my uncles because they woudnt let me touch it

Hey i was 5 lol :roll:

if any1 has seen the corpse on Age of empires 2 i think its more gory than mk now

And on the MKDA mk history video it looks more gory but maybe its because its teh NTSC version

[slip81]

I was 10 when the game came out, and I remember all the controversy around it. At the local arcade near me you could never get near the machine during peak hours, and, like so many of my friends, I bought a genesis shortly after mortal monday just to play the game. Also I'd have to agree with most people, it was really violent for the time (I believe it predates Doom), and while there were more violent games out before that, they were mainly on the PC only and not in the mainstream (then PC gaming was a mostly underground thing), so when MK came out to the masses via every arcade in the country, parents and politicians alike were shocked because this was something new to them. I think Nigma, you have to try and understand that things were different then, and not just call everyone protesting MK stupid. Just like back in the early 1930's Dracula was a scary movie.

Also older members with a better memory correct me if I'm wrong, but in the original arcade machines, didn't Scorpion shoot a chain from his hand, and wasn't one of his fatalities ripping the opponets head off with said chain?

[Balloon Fight]

What is the hoo haa with MK1+ they arent fucking violent at all :angry:

I was just playing it now so see the occasional splash of blood or something i mean hell doom was more violent and they pick on MK! i mean what is the problem.. PoP IS MORE FREAKING VIOLENT AND ITS A 12/13+ OMFG
I HATE THESE VIDEOGAME VIOLENCE PROTESTS WHY THE FUCK CANT THEY JUST NOT LET THEIR SON/DAUGHTER PLAY THE GAME INSTEAD OF RUINING IT FOR EVERY1 ELSE

/rant

ok thanks for reading

This is ridiculous.

1, every time you punch someone, they bleed. That's hardly occasionally.

2, I don't think the classic PoP was more violent.

3, I'm sure Doom WAS protested when it came out, just like MK1.

4, when was the last MK1 protest you heard about?

Winner. I mean this is pretty pointless. MK1 is 12 years old, get with the times, GTA is the new violent game whore.

Also I must say that this IS THE BEST THREAD EVER.

[Dahne]

Remember back in the early PS1 days, when Vandal Hearts was rated Mature because of the big cartoony blood spouts when people die?

That was funny.

[Flack]

i have no idea why people went crazy at that time no biggie now

My point exactly. "Then" was different than "now".

[TheRedEye]

Wow. I hate little kids.

[-hellvin-]

Enigma is my favorite DP member. This was a fun read. Good thread.

[kainemaxwell]

I needed a laugh.

[Berserker]

Seriously enigma, you couldn't have expected anything positive or reaffirming to come out of a thread like this... could you?

Mortal Kombat was a controversial game for it's time, as has already been mentioned here. Posts like this would be just as provoking as me posting something like "DOOM I DON T SEE TEH BIG DEAL IS, UT2004 IS MUCH BETER". It's either flame-baiting, or just plain ignorance...

In any case, it was mildly entertaining :embarrassed:

[RetroYoungen]

Kids. Can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em... legally, anyway. ;) j/k

MK was violent as hell, I figured this thread when I first read the title was about the gameplay, which I had trouble adjusting to meself. But yeah, MK was extremely violent for the time, today it may look pretty funny. Back then, it happened to be el shizz-nitz, y0.

[The_EniGma]

i love doom no doubt and i love MK my fave fighting series over StreetFighter (ive just preferred MK from the beginning) i just dont understand how back then why people would have flipped out something with little blood i mean come on when u kick some one i see no blood at all

Although for pac-man being the most violent i guess they most likely would have flipped at SubZeros spine head ripper thingy

Also if you look at Last Blade 2 on Japanese mode (i dont know if it was released before MK) u see nothing but blood, then using the UNI-BIOS you switch to american mode it flahses animated violence then you swtich to uk mode there is nothing.....

I think its also because StreetFigter is kinda Cartoony and i guess techonology was too crap to show real people and no1 protested SF because it was just cartoons beating the hell outta each other but when MK came out it looked like real people (although they look really CRAP)

oh well ive come to my conclusion now 8-)

thanks

[Azazel]

I'll never understand Mortal Combat. Street fighter was 10 better and most people would rather play MK back in the 90s.

[fahrvergnugen]

When they were released, the MK machines at my local arcade were thronged for about 4-5 weeks, with people constantly playing and jockeying for position.

But once they'd seen it all, there was little joy left to be had in it, and most of the fighting game players went back to Super Street Fighter II' Turbo Hyper Fighting Championship Franchise Milking. By the end of the second month the MK machine was gone. Same story for MK2, but that one took even less time to cycle out of the arcade.

[undead455]

I think it was the satisfaction of being able to kill your openant. In the arcade near where I live everyone played SF2 until they saw someone do a fatality and then everyone switched over to MK. A guy I knew used to be able to do Scorpion's fatality and then kick the skeleton across the screen after, still don't know how he did it lol

Keep on Gaming 8-)

[blissfulnoise]

Actually, Mortal Kombat doesn't just contain acts of violence, it encourages them too!

My brother, a friend, and I ended up in a group fight as a result of it. I kept beating these other kids with Scorpion resulting in an increasingly madder and madder string of opponents. Eventually it came to blows, we scuffled like 11 year old kids do; kids went to get their big brothers, came back, and then their older brothers laughed that their siblings couldn't beat us in MK. I guess Lieberman was right, violent game do beget violence! x_x

Also inspirations for real fisticuffs in my arcade: Samurai Showdown 2, Tekken Tag, Top Skater, NBA Jam, Marvel vs Street Fighter, Air Hockey, and my favorite, Skee Ball.

[Milk]

I was 7 or 8 when Mortal Kombat came out. I was also very desensitized. My little sister (6 years old then) loved horror movies like Child's Play, Dolls, and A Nightmare on Elm Street, and watched them over and over again like they were The Little Mermaid. 1992 was the year Ren & Stimpy debuted, and you could still buy Garbage Pail Kids cards at the local store. Some of the figures in the TMNT toy line were kind of gross -- Baxter Stockman, Wingnut, the Rat King... So I wasn't very impressed by the violence or the gross-out factor. It was more like, "Cool! Blood!"

[EnemyZero]

LOL yeah I was also 8 when this game was released, and untill that point violence of that caliber in video games was NON-existant, which is why everyone made a fuss about it...we didnt have games like manhunt back then. If you were not a child you'd understand

[Cauterize]

enigma, no offence, but u were totally asking to be flamed there mate!

[Kamino]

Mr. Foodmonster said it all.

[Graham Mitchell]

yeah I was also 8 when this game was released, and untill that point violence of that caliber in video games was NON-existant, which is why everyone made a fuss about it...we didnt have games like manhunt back then. If you were not a child you'd understand

While I think Mortal Kombat was the first game to get national attention for its violent content, there were other games around that were equally as visceral, if not more.

Check out the Genesis versions of the Immortal and Technocop, both released long before MK. The arcade version of Smash TV was pretty bloody too, if you remember blowing Mutoid Man's head off.

Oh, and whoever said the orginal PoP wasn't that bloody, it is. The "jaws" traps leave you in bloody smear, and falling into the spikes is an entertaining mess. The PC and Sega-CD versions show that nicely.

It's funny how a game can be excessively violent in nature (Double Dragon, Commando, even fucking Duck Hunt if you really think about it), and people don't care until there's a drop of blood on the screen. People are scared of reality, IMHO.

[Neil Koch]

Also older members with a better memory correct me if I'm wrong, but in the original arcade machines, didn't Scorpion shoot a chain from his hand, and wasn't one of his fatalities ripping the opponets head off with said chain?

MK1 only had 1 Fatality per character + the pit fatality. Scorpion's special moves were the "get over here" and teleport.

Man I feel kinda old looking at this thread... I was a senior in high school when MK1 came out.

[Keir]

All of us were obnoxious big-mouthed ignorant kids once too you know. ;)

[rbudrick]

Hey Enigma,

Don't worry about Vinny T...he's just messing with ya. We all pick on each other a bit now and then. :-) All are welcome here as long as they actively contrbute to discussions. I had no idea you were 12...

As for MK...man...that was a huge fiasco. But more significant that the hoopla it caused, is the impact it had on games after it. It was THE competitor to Street Fighter 2, yet it was VERY different...people were dying for more fighting game goodness (a very young genre at the time...well not really, but the craze was young...SFII started it), and MK gave it. Its popularity soared, and THAT'S kinda why the press and politicians got all out of hand about it....."oh no, my kids are going to rip people's spines out!!"

-Rob

[Wavelflack]

I often wonder why people make such a big deal out of the Wright brothers. I mean...big fucking deal! Their airplane was all slow and shit, plus it didn't look very cool. I mean, the F-22 is way fucking faster and shit, plus it has stealth things built in, or whatever. Plus it looks badass. Why don't we have a day celebrating Lockheed?

[GrayFox]

Wow. I hate little kids.

Ah, agreement here.

[FantasiaWHT]

To give an analogy in another media.

People protested "The Simpsons"- they said "damn" and "ass"

Then that died down.

Then came "Beavis and Butthead" and that got protested.

Then that died down.

Then came South Park and that got protested.

Then that died down.

Now you have PRIME TIME shows that use every swear word except "shit" "fuck" and "asshole".

That's why my kid is never watching TV lol.

Anyway, there was a recent study that said today's "PG-13" movies would have easily gotten "R" ratings 10 years ago. Not really surprising, is it?

[The Manimal]

Wow. I find it crazy that someone born in 1992 is almost a teenager now. WOW. Then again, when I see those "1986: Born after this date, no sales" stickers for tobacco at stores, I think "Damn. Kids are smoking now" LOL

[Predatorxs]

I always liked SF over MK, but there both good in there own ways.. I think at the time, the big stink over MK, was how real it looked, and the fatalities, the Snes and MegaDrive had really taken off, but the whole Game Ratings thing had just kicked in as well, so this only magnified the whole MK / Blood / Fatalities / life-like-graphics... LOL

Too me the street fighter franchise, is the one and only, but King of fighters started to creep in, in mid 9O'z, another crazy fighter franchise! which i'm a huge fan of as well! ;)

Hell i bought a Neo Geo just to play 98' and 99' and i had picked up the games before the Neogeo it's self LOL

:vamp:..XS

[LazingBlazers]

...
I have played MK:DA and done subzeros skeleton rip and lots of fatalities...

My verdict

i have no idea why people went crazy at that time no biggie now...

ROFL

I can't speak for anybody else... but where I come from; ripping somebody's fucking head off with their spinal cord still attached, and then holding it up in a blaze of glory isn't exactly an activity for the whole family... even today.