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Aswald
08-20-2004, 04:30 PM
Several weeks ago, Sky Jaguar. It's better than NES' 1942.

Before, it was Space Invaders Collection.

There are currently 3 others available. If possible, my next one will be that one-on-one fighter. Unless Knightmare becomes available before that.

http://www.opcodegames.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=3


It's nice to see something from the 1980s back in good form. This is one comeback that ISN'T pathetic!

soniko_karuto
08-20-2004, 04:32 PM
uhm, my last CV game was donkey kong jr. i gave it away, but i really miss it. :(

Aswald
08-20-2004, 04:34 PM
uhm, my last CV game was donkey kong jr. i gave it away, but i really miss it. :(

But that's not an Opcode game- yet.

soniko_karuto
08-20-2004, 04:39 PM
ah sorry, i misread then.

Aswald
08-20-2004, 04:43 PM
Let your avatar scold you. :D

ventrra
08-21-2004, 03:10 PM
I've bought Space Invaders Collection and Sky Jaguar. I'm not particularly interested in Yie Ar Kung-Fu, though.

Aswald
08-23-2004, 04:17 PM
I guess one reason I asked was curiosity.

Like other things from "the day," we miss it. Many were lost prematurely, such as American video gaming in 1984. And heavy metal music.

There were at least 4 1/2 million ColecoVision owners out there, and we were all dismayed when Coleco crashed in 1984. We always felt that there should have been more.

Well, now, there IS more. The homebrew games, such as newcoleco's Bejeweled, and Reversi. And now, Opcode's MSX-ColecoVision games.

Here, at last, are the games we waited for. What the CV SHOULD have had. Soon, he will finish Knightmare, a game which I believe has 128K- in other words, the sort of game the Supergame Module should've given us, but without the module!

I have often bashed the older generations, but I will give them this- they don't just wish and complain about things they would like, they continue to support it. This is why Frank Sinatra remained so popular for so long; the WW2 Generation stuck with him. Baby Boomers? Peter, Paul, and Mary still have listeners, don't they?

But, all too often, we miss an opportunity. Numerous times, some 1980s group my generation liked tries a reunion, but...we don't support them. We don't attend their concerts. So...they stop.

Well, it's the same thing here. If you like the CV, why not support it now? It's not as if the games are bad.

Aswald
08-23-2004, 04:24 PM
By the by, Opcode...did you include that pool game with that fighter game? The one that's better than the one ADAM's House sells?

opcode
08-23-2004, 05:49 PM
By the by, Opcode...did you include that pool game with that fighter game? The one that's better than the one ADAM's House sells?

Yep, Konami's Billiards is in. Billiards is the European version of Video Hustler and to be honest there aren't many differences. I few bugs were corrected but probably you aren't even going to notice them.
About the overall status of Yie Ar Kung-Fu, I am still waiting for Dale to finish the artwork. Once he is done, the game would be released in a matter of a few weeks...

opcode
08-23-2004, 05:53 PM
By the way, there is a pool going on at AtariAge forum to choose my next arcade port after Pac-Man Collection (which I hope will be out later this year).

http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55780

Aswald
08-31-2004, 05:23 PM
Well, if I had to choose, it would be Donkey Kong. But, most people would probably want something a bit different. There are just so many to choose from...but, as YOU are doing the work, the final decision should be YOURS.

SS
08-31-2004, 07:41 PM
I didn't even own a Colecovision until opcode released the "Space Invaders Collection". I purchased a console for the sole reason of playing that game. I own about 15 Colecovision titles now and SIC is just about the only one that I ever play. I'm really looking forward to picking up the "Pac-Man Collection" too.

Chunky
08-31-2004, 10:53 PM
i picked up Space Invaders Collection i think from Joe when he was down hear last year(i forget) and it is quite good. That got me going on coleco.

Ed Oscuro
08-31-2004, 11:17 PM
Hmm...link on the Reviews page (first section) for Donkey Kong Jr. doesn't work.

Good stuff, but how does Opcode claim "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED" when these games aren't officially licensed?

ubersaurus
09-01-2004, 01:58 AM
Space Invaders Collection rocked.

I never managed to get around to picking up his other games, but sky jaguar looks good.

swlovinist
09-01-2004, 02:34 AM
Dont get me wrong about bringing out homebrews, but I have a few questions...Ed Oscuro has a good point, did they actually get permission to do this or did they just "Do it because nobody will probably care?" Taito is a active and alive company. Space Invaders is still a very marketable item. If they didnt get the proper permisson, I can't support this product because, after all, they are just porting a pretty pirated cart of Space Invaders. Its not like they made space invaders or that its a not available anywhere else :roll: Again, I am all for homebrews, and try to support a couple every year. The real grey line in the future will be...what is the difference between a illegal port of a game versus a truly unique one?. The people doing these better hope they stay underground or they could possibly be sued. I dont care if they are just making their money back(yeah right), it is not right

Ed Oscuro
09-01-2004, 03:20 AM
Aye...don't get me wrong, either, Eduardo's a great guy and I only say this out of gin-u-wine concern for a fellow MSX/Coleco enthusaist. It would be bad for folks to get in trouble over this.

SegaTecToy
09-01-2004, 08:14 AM
Apparently Taito contacted him and just ignored the issue when they discovered that the game was just a hobby thing.


Good stuff, but how does Opcode claim "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED" when these games aren't officially licensed? The game is a perfect reprodution so the rights screen is the one Taito created for the games.

Heh, with all these great homebrews for older systems you can play "what if" scenarios for a long time.

Why guys with few time and limited resources are doing things that multibillion companies failed to do? Maybe it's because they love what they do and there isn't any greedy retards from management and marketing in their necks sucking their blood... :roll:

opcode
09-01-2004, 10:39 AM
Hmm...link on the Reviews page (first section) for Donkey Kong Jr. doesn't work.

Hmmm.... That's true... Maybe something to do with my MySQL database. I will check...


Good stuff, but how does Opcode claim "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED" when these games aren't officially licensed?

I never claimed I had the rights for Space Invaders or anything else. Just scroll to bottom of the page and you will see the copyright notice:

"Space Invaders © 1978,79 Taito Corp., ALL RIGHTS RESERVED"

The game itself shows the following message in the opening screen:

"Space Invaders Collection - (c) Taito Corporation 1978,79"

By the way, it isn't licensed. Taito contacted Joe last year about SIC, but once they learned it was a really small and hobby project they simply gave up. We didn't get a official permission, but they didn't bother us anymore either. In the first they were very intimidating, but after the 3rd or so message their tone had changed a bit, they became more friendly...


Aye...don't get me wrong, either, Eduardo's a great guy and I only say this out of gin-u-wine concern for a fellow MSX/Coleco enthusaist. It would be bad for folks to get in trouble over this.

That's simple: if someone wants to sue (considering I am here in Brazil), they will need to pay for lawyers, pay for all trip expenses, pay for all legal process actions costs, etc. If Taito thinks they are loosing dozens of thousands dollars, I am sure it would be a pretty good reason to spend all that money to sue me. Otherwise they will just let me go with my hobby projects. That's the way things work.


Taito is a active and alive company. Space Invaders is still a very marketable item. If they didnt get the proper permisson, I can't support this product because, after all, they are just porting a pretty pirated cart of Space Invaders. Its not like they made space invaders or that its a not available anywhere else Again, I am all for homebrews, and try to support a couple every year. The real grey line in the future will be...what is the difference between a illegal port of a game versus a truly unique one?. The people doing these better hope they stay underground or they could possibly be sued. I dont care if they are just making their money back(yeah right), it is not right

That's fine with me. Don't support it. :)
For God sake! Those machines are long dead, Jim! There is no money to be done here. We are just a bunch of nerds, geeks, you name it, pretending we are living in the 80's again. It's this simple, do you see?! Considering your nickname I can already say you are a geek. May I suppose you just use to say to all your friends in a costume they can't dress like that because it would infringe copyrighted material?


Heh, with all these great homebrews for older systems you can play "what if" scenarios for a long time.
Why guys with few time and limited resources are doing things that multibillion companies failed to do? Maybe it's because they love what they do and there isn't any greedy retards from management and marketing in their necks sucking their blood...

I agree 100%, but unfortunately some people just manages to mess up simple, enjoyable things.
By the way, do I know you? Probably yes, but I haven't figured out your real name yet... :)

Eduardo

SegaTecToy
09-01-2004, 11:56 AM
I dont care if they are just making their money back(yeah right), it is not right

I don't believe you really think these guys are making some real money with homebrews. LOL
They are expensive to do and even if it is a huge hit it 'll sell less than 1000 copies. Frequently waaaay less than that.


By the way, do I know you? Probably yes, but I haven't figured out your real name yet...

Hmmm... I don't think so. Aren't you from São Paulo? I'm some 3000 Km away from you here in Manaus. :)

SegaAges
09-01-2004, 01:32 PM
where can you pick these games up at?

SegaTecToy
09-01-2004, 01:40 PM
where can you pick these games up at?

Opcode's site www.opcodegames.com
They used to be sold at Atariage store too.

opcode
09-01-2004, 01:44 PM
Here are screenshots from Ms Pac-Man (ColecoVision version)(screenshots took using MESS):

http://www.opcodegames.com/games/pacman/mspacintro.gif

http://www.opcodegames.com/games/pacman/INTER1.gif

If you want SIC or Sky Jaguar in cart form, please take a look at AtariAge store. But better hurry up. as last time I heard SIC was almost sold out...

Eduardo Mello

gavv
09-01-2004, 02:51 PM
actually, right now only Sky Jaguar is available in the AtariAge store (checked earlier this morning), so apparently SIC is indeed sold out.

gavv

dojosky
09-01-2004, 03:07 PM
Hi i m a huge colecovision fan have had my colecovision ever since 1982 and it still works !!! :D plus i have 3 extra boxed complete colecovision systems as well !!! i am very interested in buying all opcode games for CV !! shit didnt know that space invaders collection was almost gone ! I saw some SIC at CGE2K4 but i forgot who the seller was :( hey if anyone has one for sale contact me please thanks !!

don

Ed Oscuro
09-01-2004, 05:04 PM
Hmm...link on the Reviews page (first section) for Donkey Kong Jr. doesn't work.

Hmmm.... That's true... Maybe something to do with my MySQL database. I will check...


Good stuff, but how does Opcode claim "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED" when these games aren't officially licensed?

I never claimed I had the rights for Space Invaders or anything else. Just scroll to bottom of the page and you will see the copyright notice:

"Space Invaders © 1978,79 Taito Corp., ALL RIGHTS RESERVED"
True (and the title screen notice as well), but on the front of the cart it says "© 2003 OPCODE GAMES, INC." with "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED" and a part number on the next line. Under those lines (and not in all caps) is the "Space Invaders is..." notice. That flies in the face of what you just said, because the actual game cartridge claims that Opcode games owns the graphics, code (this is a MSX port, after all) and non-IP material - everything but the name, apparently.

Now Taito doesn't need to sue you; a little "cease and desist" letter should suffice quite well (I've seen cases where folks got cease and desist notices over using one letter of a corporate logo). Let's consider this (however unlikely): Taito pulls a Wild West Hero on you and they appropriate your game, either for the altered gameplay or the port - what would you think about that?

All that aside, if I was a Coleco collector (at the moment I've neither money nor room for one) I would pick up a few Opcode games. I just feel that the notice should be written differently.

opcode
09-01-2004, 06:12 PM
True (and the title screen notice as well), but on the front of the cart it says "© 2003 OPCODE GAMES, INC." with "ALL RIGHTS RESERVED" and a part number on the next line. Under those lines (and not in all caps) is the "Space Invaders is..." notice. That flies in the face of what you just said, because the actual game cartridge claims that Opcode games owns the graphics, code (this is a MSX port, after all) and non-IP material - everything but the name, apparently.

What?????? :roll: Gosh....
Look Ed, lets put things this way: it's just fan work, ok? I just wanted to make it look "real", you see. Like, good looking printed material, brand new cartridge shells, this kind of stuff. So in case you haven't realised it yet, it is all fake, just a geek trying to materialize his childhood dream. The copyright notice (based on some classic Atari template), like everything else, *IS FAKE*... Even Opcode Games doesn't exist, really!
Again, I don't own the games, the graphics, code, or anything else. I am just pretending I am a game programmer and releasing a few carts to people like me, who still like to play games on their ColecoVision (as absurd as it can sound). Please don't get too serious about it, it is all for fun, a time to be with friends and enjoy a common hobby...
And JFYI, SIC isn't a port of a MSX game...


All that aside, if I was a Coleco collector (at the moment I've neither money nor room for one) I would pick up a few Opcode games. I just feel that the notice should be written differently.

Ok, I will try to make things more clear next time....

Eduardo

Ed Oscuro
09-01-2004, 06:15 PM
Ok, I will try to make things more clear next time....
Yeah, that'd be awesome. I know you're not trying to rip off anybody's work, and I know it wasn't written that way to grab credit, but it could come off as that way - just like how you WERE just defending it a minute ago! LOL The recent prototype ROM release debacle(s) here on the Forums have really underlined how easy it is for the promise of an unreleased game - for a small fee - to turn against the person doing the good deed. That said, I hope you keep the dream alive, because the work is excellent.

coleco_chris
09-01-2004, 08:29 PM
Aswald-I also picked up Sky Jaguar because the CV was my favorite growing up, and was my "first" system I picked up when I got into this hobby. I've also purchased Cafeman's Koffi-Yellow Kopter, Marble Craze, & Ms Space Fury on the homebrew side, along with a few repro's/unreleased titles like Steamroller, Super Pac-Man, and the 3 Atarisoft CV games.

I will gladly pay to help keep the homebrewers "brewing", because it's a magical thing to actually have "new" games for our ancient systems. Eduardo is definetly one of the best, so the games can only get better. I'll take the opportunity to plug my top two request for the CV-Wizard of Wor & Zookeeper. I'd love to see a full version of DK done to the max, to see if it could actually be arcade-perfect. It's only like 14k plus the samples. I believe with bankswitching, Zaxxon clocked in at 32 or at least 24k!

opcode
09-02-2004, 06:42 AM
I'll take the opportunity to plug my top two request for the CV-Wizard of Wor & Zookeeper.

AtariAge had a pool running on which arcade game I should port after Pac-Man Collection, and Wizard of Wor was the winner. :)


I'd love to see a full version of DK done to the max, to see if it could actually be arcade-perfect. It's only like 14k plus the samples. I believe with bankswitching, Zaxxon clocked in at 32 or at least 24k!

I would love too. DK is definitively a game I want to do someday...

Eduardo

Aswald
09-03-2004, 03:59 PM
Very well put, Coleco Chris!

If I had to choose a game for Opcode to put onto the ColecoVision, it would be a first-person shooter, along the lines of Space Spartans or B-17 Bomber; the lack of any such game, one that's actually good, is a serious gap in the CV library. Dam Busters is just too flawed.

Donkey Kong is, of course, the CV flagship game, so of course most CV owners would like to see a good version! Me, too!

But...there are just so many arcade games, how to choose? Bosconian, perhaps?

Space Invaders Collection...I doubt Taito would ever seriously do anything. It's not as if Opcode is costing them business; in fact, his game may well boost overall interest in this game, and maybe make them more money.

delanume
09-03-2004, 05:12 PM
Is there a chance to see Galaga :-P ported on the colecoviison system?
Galaxian is fantastic, galaga could be awesome, i think

kethdredd
09-03-2004, 11:16 PM
How do you go about ordering one of opcode's games?

opcode
09-08-2004, 12:16 PM
How do you go about ordering one of opcode's games?

Please check the AtariAge store:

www.atariage.com/store

Eduardo