DP Advance Guide

[Griking]

I just got mine in the mail today and I'm having a ball reading it.

I notice that a lot of items are unpriced though, is this because a value really hasn't been set on the item yet?

On the funny side I just read that the entire US Game.com library of 20 games is valued at only $36 according to this guide. LOL

[esquire]

That does sound strange. I wonder what happened there.

[hydr0x]

well, you can get almost any game.com game for 1-3 bucks at ebay (or at least you could a while ago), so i suppose thats correct

[anagrama]

What's unpriced? That seems odd unless it's Rumor Mill/Prototype stuff...

(*curses slow trans-Atlantic shipping*)

[digitalpress]

What's unpriced? That seems odd unless it's Rumor Mill/Prototype stuff...

(*curses slow trans-Atlantic shipping*)

I know that John didn't get to Jaguar hardware and many Lynx titles aren't priced but that should be the extent of it.

Glad you're enjoying the book - I was really happy with the way it turned out!

[AB Positive]

Advance Guide = joy wrapped in bliss. Get it if you didn't order it yet! In related news, reading Keir's CD32 section sorta makes me want to seek one out to check out it's library.

-AG

[sisko]

Yeah, and according to this guide, I've been sitting on an R8 for the past 4 years and never even knew about it.

Neo Geo Pocket Platinum Silver Pack - $85, R8

I thought it was bloody common!

I've had it since CGE and its already been used many many times. A very solid investment indeed :D

[anagrama]

Neo Geo Pocket Platinum Silver Pack - $85, R8


Is that just the boxed Platinum Silver machine?
I had one of those, but sold it for about £20 a year or two back. Never seemed that rare to me, either.
Guess that deserves an almighty "D'oh!"

[Mayhem]

I didn't have time to go through the hardware entries for the NGPC section (long story) only the games. So that's what was already there by whomever decided. I actually have the platinum one at home myself from 2000...

[hydr0x]

i've got the platinum one too, that one is definetly not rare, even available at some import stores

[Mayhem]

From a US POV though (which is almost certainly how it was scored) it may well be very hard to find...

[sisko]

Neo Geo Pocket Platinum Silver Pack - $85, R8


Is that just the boxed Platinum Silver machine?
I had one of those, but sold it for about £20 a year or two back. Never seemed that rare to me, either.
Guess that deserves an almighty "D'oh!"

Yes. but it came bundled with Sonic Pocket Adventure (US release)

[Lady Jaye]

I can't wait to receive my copy (hint, hint, Joe...)

[rbudrick]

I wish my copy had arrived...sigh <twiddles thumbs and pouts>

-ROb

[K3V]

*waits patiently*

:)

[oesiii]

I got mine today, thanks for all the hard work. Now I have some reading material while we wait for a 3rd hurricane to come through Florida next week @_@

[kainemaxwell]

I can't wait for my copy either!

[Keir]

Got my copy yesterday. Yay!

[digitalpress]

UPDATE.

I got confirmation from my wonderful shipping guy that 100% of all paid US pre-orders have been sent, 90% of overseas pre-orders have been sent, and he's already taken out some of the orders that came in after CGE.

Now, to the contributors and staff - if you have not received your book by September 15th, please let me know. It's just a business rule to ship to paying customers first and the comp copies second but I want to make sure you all get your books before the next big wave.

Enjoy!

[wufners]

I just recieved mine yesterday (the 8th) all the way up here in Seattle.

Tip-top work DP staff! It's a sharp lookin', smooth readin' book. Thanks for all the hard work and you're welcome for the $25. Don't spend it all at once (or on multiple copies of SMB/Duck Hunt!) ;)

[tritium]

I also received mine the 8th (Advance Guide) and i'm in Miami,FL.... Thats all the way at the bottom of the state.

-Tritium

[hydr0x]

hat came in after CGE.

Now, to the contributors and staff - if you have not received your book by September 15th, please let me know. It's just a business rule to ship to paying customers first and the comp copies second but I want to make sure you all get your books before the next big wave.

Enjoy!

just to let you know, i will be away for 1,5 weeks from sunday on, so i won't receive it until then, but i'll let you know as soon as i get back if it arrived, man, i had hoped i had something to read during those days :(

[rbudrick]

Got mine last night. Damn is that book thick! The same day I posted saying I didn't have mine yet, LOL! Thanks, DP!

-Rob

[RetroYoungen]

My only gripe with the guide is the lack of Jag hardware and rarity pricing. Other than that, it's perfect. Perfect, I say!

[K3V]

Got mine today too. Sent you an email about it Joe :)

[Crush Crawfish]

I got mine today, and iit rocks! Very, very well done!

[Jestr]

*still patiently waiting*

[suppafly]

I havent received mine yet down hare in Mexico

*waits very impatiently* :(

[Funk Buddy]

I have not gotten mine either. I was hoping for delivery in alphabetical order by last names... I'd a been near the top of the list. LOL

[gamergary]

If that happened then I would have put my last name as Aarons since my last name starts with W. I got my book and I am pleased but I want the import version so I can have the super famicom section that was cut out of this version. :angry:

[SoulBlazer]

Yeah, what's going to happen with the stuff that was cut from this one?

And I noticed a annoying error -- it was in the original one but seems more common here. Text when talking about the features or cheat codes or easter eggs of the games is cut short and it just goes into the games scores. You're reading along and suddenly WHAM! The sentance is chopped off. I can provide examples if anyone wishes. Who ever did the final editing needs to be shot. :)

[Queen Of The Felines]

The stuff that was cut is still available in the online guide. A pain in the butt, sure, but it's there. :)

Kristine

[Dire 51]

I got mine a few days ago. Nice to finally see something I wrote in print. :D

[digitalpress]

Who ever did the final editing needs to be shot. :)

I guess I need to be shot. Unfortunately for all of us, Microsoft products don't talk to each other very well. I've done everything I can to minimize those cut-off sentences but it's just impossible to edit 15000 game entries.

Sorry this ruins your experience with the book (this being your only comment). I'll try harder next time provided I'm not shot dead.

[SoulBlazer]

I was partly kidding, Joe. Hence the use of the :) It's annoying, but not a big deal. The book is fantasic beyond that. Great work all around. :D

[anagrama]

WoO! I'm very happy to say that my Guide arrived today, and it's every bit the definitive tome I'd hoped for. Had a quick flick through and ended up getting absorbed for an hour or two :)

Casting an over-critical eye over the Megadrive section (hey, I'm allowed to since I helped write it ;) ) I've spotted a couple of typos that slipped through (despite the fact that I must have checked it all at least a dozen times!) and there's a couple of truncated descriptions again :( [Wily Wars was the first one I spotted].
There also seems to be something strange going on with the Genesis/MD accessories - they almost all seem to say 'Released No' or 'Released Yes' in the description despite the fact that they were all definitely released. Must be beasties in the mainframe somewhere.
Also, it would have been nice to seperate the Euro/Brazilian MD games, but at least this can all be fixed for the Import Guide :)

Don't want to sound too negative though, because it's a truly stellar effort all-round. It's going to take a long time to truly assimilate...

[davidleeroth]

They're in UK now? Only few more days then. :D

[hydr0x]

They're in UK now? Only few more days then. :D

that's what i was thinking, but then i realized i won't be at home until friday NEXT week :puppydogeyes: :? :smash: :2gunfire: :puke:

[vintagegamecrazy]

I got mine on saturday. It is a nice guide, I can overlook the cutoff sentences, its not a big deal since you did your best. We will have to start an addendum style thread for all of the missing hardware. I was curious to see why the SuperVision and the Interactive vision were not in there, not a big deal I was just wanting to get more familiar with the Supervision.

[digitalpress]

I got mine on saturday. It is a nice guide, I can overlook the cutoff sentences, its not a big deal since you did your best. We will have to start an addendum style thread for all of the missing hardware. I was curious to see why the SuperVision and the Interactive vision were not in there, not a big deal I was just wanting to get more familiar with the Supervision.

SuperVision and PC-FX were the final cuts from the book. There wasn't enough interest-to-page-count ratio and as you can see it was a lot of stuff to squeeze into 512 pages. I DO have those sections and can have them online as well.

As for those cut-off sentences, I know they suck and they were a big problem in my editing process but I couldn't catch them all. I would really appreciate if you find cut-offs to PM me with the game title and section so I can contact the appropriate section editor to correct them in our database.

[Jestr]

Hey Joe,
I ordered mine on the 23rd of August, any idea how close the guide is to me. I'm going crazy waiting for it!

[digitalpress]

Hey Joe,
I ordered mine on the 23rd of August, any idea how close the guide is to me. I'm going crazy waiting for it!

All I can tell you is that it's definitely been shipped. Brian says he's got everything ordered up through 9/10 out the door (except for a few overseas orders) as of last night.

Media mail. Cheap but anxiety-inducing.

[Gamereviewgod]

Ah! This is driving me nuts! I paid like 5 minutes after the annoucement was posted on the front page. Maybe next time you could offer up priority if people are willing to pay? I've gotten the other guides really fast in the past (hey, that rhymes!). I keep waiting since finally going through and updating this thing with my current lists will take quite some time. Now I have that set for Saturday..... again.

[kainemaxwell]

No sign of mine yet.

[digitalpress]

No sign of mine yet.

As I'm sure I've mentioned - contributors and staff were mailed out after all of the pre-orders. I'm sorry you had to wait but that's just the way it goes. Should be there any day.

[icbrkr]

Got mine a few days ago... it's great!

Now.. I got a question - why was the TG-16 included in this release and the original guide's release?

[davidleeroth]

Received mine today. I was especially fond of the stories, great stuff. Thanks goes to all who had a finger in the guide. :D

[digitalpress]

Got mine a few days ago... it's great!

Now.. I got a question - why was the TG-16 included in this release and the original guide's release?

Two reasons.

1. From here on out, it's being considered a "post 8-bit era" system, hence, inclusion in the Advance guide.

2. Lots of work went into the PC Engine section, as well as re-vamping the pricing of the original guide, which was hideously off.

[briskbc]

I was happy to see mine in the mail. It reached the Great White North safe and sound. I'm really enjoying it so far. I gotta say the color scheme for the cover looks great. Now I have something to read in place of the hockey box scores.

[hades]

Lazy bums. I traveled across the entire United States (coast to coast) to CGE to get mine. It was well worth it. ;)

Anyhoot -- kidding aside, the wait is worth it. Great book. It kept me from crying my eyes out while flying.

[pixelsnpolygons]

well, you can get almost any game.com game for 1-3 bucks at ebay (or at least you could a while ago), so i suppose thats correct


Is the first to admit I paid $75 for a Game.com... with only ten games a couple years ago.




Oh I'm a dick. LOL

[Rogmeister]

I got mine a few days ago and have been enjoying it. I especially like the remembrances...the E.T. story especially...many of us didn't realize why back then that it was all that bad. I wish I had a great gaming story to tell but my gaming life has been fairly dull...maybe I'll think of something sometime. Since I've been buying games for some of the later systems of late, this guide will definitely help me plan future purchases. I'm especially glad to finally see a complete Playstation list. Maybe I'll even look for a few more Jag games?

[kainemaxwell]

Anyone else still waiting by chance?

[digitalpress]

Anyone else still waiting by chance?

Most of the contributors and Lore Contest winners are still waiting. We're getting there, though.

[Duncan]

Got mine a while ago (gotta love pre-ordering!), but hadn't checked in here in a while. School, work and stuff, you know.

Yeah, I noticed a few cut-off paragraphs here and there, and the lack of pricing/rarity on certain things, but what must be remembered is that this is the first edition of this effort. In fifteen years, we'll all look back fondly on it and say, "Remember when you could buy a PlayStation 1 for $10?"

The only thing I saw as a glaring omission was the lack of hardware and accessories pricing in some sections -- mainly for Game Boy and Game Gear, but others seem to be slightly lax in this area as well. Lack of info, or just too much work dealing with cartridges alone?

It's okay -- Joe's going to be shot anyway, so I'll rest easier. LOL

In all honesty, though, it's an awesome book. At least as great as I'd expected, and the future potential is huge. I'm more than willing to help out with the book's improvement in any way that I can, too.

One futuristic thought -- any plans to do a "portables-only" edition? Starting with the Microvision and ending with GBA or N-Gage. That way, you could add in all the Nintendo/Tiger handhelds and the Coleco/Entex mini-arcades as well.

[digitalpress]

The only thing I saw as a glaring omission was the lack of hardware and accessories pricing in some sections -- mainly for Game Boy and Game Gear, but others seem to be slightly lax in this area as well. Lack of info, or just too much work dealing with cartridges alone?

I must agree - though I will also say that I have no interest whatsoever in pricing out hardware, especially peripherals. I should probably be more interested in it, but I'm not, and as one revered reader said long ago "as Joe goes, the DP guides go". It's always been about the games to me, and as such that's all I really badger the other editors about.


One futuristic thought -- any plans to do a "portables-only" edition? Starting with the Microvision and ending with GBA or N-Gage. That way, you could add in all the Nintendo/Tiger handhelds and the Coleco/Entex mini-arcades as well.

We're pretty close to such a thing, but before that would come an "import guide". Really, I ended up cutting out so much excellent import information (take a look at the Super Famicom section or the PSX imports or the Saturn PAL section fo the database for a hint) that it truly deserves its own book. I'm recharging now - and come the start of 2005 I should be an Energizer bunny of projects. Hang in there and your hopes will likely become a reality. We certainly have an incredible team of contributors.

Thanks for the feedback!

[Mista' Sparkle!]

Anyone else still waiting by chance?

Most of the contributors and Lore Contest winners are still waiting. We're getting there, though.I have been going crazy for weeks waiting for my copy and there is still no sign of it! I was not a contributor, so is there a chance that mine got lost or sent to the wrong address?

[Jestr]

I'm with him!
Still waiting here in Illinois :help:
I know the post office here is slow, but this is getting downright weird.
Let me know if you need an address check.

[NESCollector75]

Got mine today, and I love it! Awsome work Joe (and everybody else involved)

[qbertandernie]

this guide is fantastic!

i dont mind the cut off sentences so much, but there are a whole bunch of typos....someone should read through and correct them. just a pet peeve. i understand you cant very well run this thing through a spell check, as every 5th word would come up as incorrect....

as for the content, ive been reading both guides since i got them and am quite impressed by all of the knowledge. i knew you guys knew your stuff, but damn! i cant imagine how much time has been put into each section. researching 500+ games? on the new systems may not be as difficult, but the older stuff has got to be horribly time consuming.

anyway, keep up the good work guys!

p.s. i have some game gear games not in the guide. anyone know who i can contact?

[digitalpress]

I have been going crazy for weeks waiting for my copy and there is still no sign of it! I was not a contributor, so is there a chance that mine got lost or sent to the wrong address?

Please email me with your name and address and we'll look into it. There are just a few outstanding orders but we're really caught up. If you're allowing 10 shipping days for media mail delivery let's find out what's up.

[mikeetler]

The only thing I saw as a glaring omission was the lack of hardware and accessories pricing in some sections -- mainly for Game Boy and Game Gear, but others seem to be slightly lax in this area as well. Lack of info, or just too much work dealing with cartridges alone?

As far as the Game boy hardware, the hardware was a complete oversight and I intended to get the basics (systems, printer, camera) done by the deadline but it didn't happen. As for a more thorough list of accessories, it will take longer to compile then the games I think. Before I commit myself to that, I want to round out the non-US Euro releses and bring the GBA section up to date, which is what I'm working on now.

-Mike

[digitalpress]

this guide is fantastic!

i dont mind the cut off sentences so much, but there are a whole bunch of typos....someone should read through and correct them. just a pet peeve. i understand you cant very well run this thing through a spell check, as every 5th word would come up as incorrect....

Please please please email me if you find typos or cut off sentences - it's never too late to fix those things!

For the record, I DID run a spell-check. It took nine hours to complete it but as you might imagine, there are a lot of words that are "valid" in the video game world that will turn up as typos in real world text. Quite troublesome. I count on our editors quite a bit in this area, it's difficult to manage.


p.s. i have some game gear games not in the guide. anyone know who i can contact?

Email me! digitalpress@email.com

Thanks for the feedback. :)

[anagrama]

If anyone has spotted any errors or typos in the Megadrive (Genesis Non-US releases) section, feel free to PM me - I've already caught a few of them, and these will all be fixed next time I submit the file.

[davidleeroth]

What about the duplicate entries like SNES Incredible Crash Dummies, The has two Europe entries one with rarity 0, the other 3? Are these packaging variations?

BTW, is there someone working on Jap Saturn games list? How's it coming along?

[kainemaxwell]

Might been over 10 days for me too *shrug

[digitalpress]

What about the duplicate entries like SNES Incredible Crash Dummies, The has two Europe entries one with rarity 0, the other 3? Are these packaging variations?

Good question. It's listed with two different part numbers in Europe . Not sure why that is, but I can consolidate the two under one entry until we unravel the correct number.


BTW, is there someone working on Jap Saturn games list? How's it coming along?

I don't think anyone's got that at the moment. There are still a few "orphans" looking for qualified experts. Coleco ADAM, PS2 (good gawd) and Saturn Japan being among those.

[ClubNinja]

Might been over 10 days for me too *shrug*

Man - unless you paid for it (though I'm pretty sure I saw you claim to contribute), then relax. It's a *FREE* book. It can take as long as it wants to get to you. Just have a little patience.

[suppafly]

I received my guide last night (september 20th). And i paid for it on july 11th.

Im very happy, its a great guide, and its worth every penny it cost me!!

Thanks everyone for this great book! :)

[The Collector]

I had a pre-order, but no sign of it yet.


~bill

[hydr0x]

What about the duplicate entries like SNES Incredible Crash Dummies, The has two Europe entries one with rarity 0, the other 3? Are these packaging variations?

Good question. It's listed with two different part numbers in Europe . Not sure why that is, but I can consolidate the two under one entry until we unravel the correct number.



i can answer that :) i didn't do the stuff for the guide, but i'm doing it now, the reason for the two Crash Dummies version (the same for 5 Mario kart versions and all that stuff) is: one is the German version, one the UK (see the -NOE and -UKV codes)

this is the huge problem with europe, every country got it's own versions in a lot of cases, so you can expect multiple entries for every game that hasn't got the -EUR code :-/

so, both numbers are correct

[undead455]

Mine came this morning in Canada. I've been looking through it and so far it's great :)

[Arcturius]

Mine got through okey here in the UK.

[kainemaxwell]

Got my guide today and I love it!!

[Dr. Morbis]

Got my guide today and I love it!!
Me too! I especially like the total item counts after each section. And I can't believe someone even attempted making a Gameboy list, let alone accomplished the feat.